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Reds Fanatic
11-20-2006, 09:34 PM
The crazy contracts continue. The Dodgers have agreed to a 5 year $45 million dollar deal for Juan Pierre.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2669903



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Free agent center fielder Juan Pierre has agreed to a five-year contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers, a source told ESPN.com on Monday. The deal is believed to be worth $44-45 million.

The deal will become complete when Pierre passes a physical exam, the source said.

Pierre, 29, is a .303 hitter over seven seasons with Colorado, Florida and the Chicago Cubs. He led the National League with 204 hits in 2006.

"He's another guy with great qualities as a human being, like Nomar [Garciaparra]," Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti told the Associated Press.

Colletti wouldn't confirm the deal with Pierre.

"It's either done or it's not done and right now it's not done," Colletti told AP.

The San Francisco Giants were also interested in Pierre, and had offered him a four-year deal in the $32-34 million range, a source said.

westofyou
11-20-2006, 09:50 PM
And Brett Butler cringes and wishes he was born later rather then sooner.

OnBaseMachine
11-20-2006, 09:51 PM
Horrible contract. I'm just glad he's a Dodger and not a Red.

Virginia Beach Reds
11-20-2006, 10:07 PM
way too much $$. didn't they watch him play with the cubs for a few years. I'm distressed. Seeing all of these big dollars going out the door, pretty soon I won't be able to afford to go watch the Reds.

MWM
11-20-2006, 10:12 PM
This is getting insane!!!!!

The owners deserve whatever they get in the future. Good lord, $45MM for Juan Pierre??????????

PuffyPig
11-20-2006, 10:55 PM
This may be the worst contract I have ever seen.

His lifetime OPS is about .725, which is bad for an OF. He's a pretty good fielder, but has a putrid arm. He has speed, but gets thrown out about 37% of the time. Experts say if you can't steal 70-75% of the time, don't run. So, his ability ot steal is negative.

Add it up and you get a below average player. I'd suggest that Gonzalez is better, in that he's almost as good as hitter, and plays a great defense at a premium defensive position.

PuffyPig
11-20-2006, 10:55 PM
And Brett Butler cringes and wishes he was born later rather then sooner.


And Butler was twice the player Pierre is.

KronoRed
11-20-2006, 11:03 PM
Good lord.

reds44
11-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Exhibit A when signing Seabass wasn't a bad idea.

cincinnati chili
11-21-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm sure Coletti will tell you he's better in the clubhouse than J.D. Drew.

It will be a pleasure to cheer against the Cubs and Dodgers next year.

Always thought Pierre was overrated. But I must admit that I predicted he'd be a failure on the Marlins, and he certainly was NOT.

RFS62
11-21-2006, 07:44 AM
Coletti is the anti-DePodesta

registerthis
11-21-2006, 08:12 AM
This is getting insane!!!!!

The owners deserve whatever they get in the future. Good lord, $45MM for Juan Pierre??????????

No kidding. The owners lose all leverage for their poverty argument when deals like this go down. No one forced the Dodgers to do this deal, they did it completely to themselves.

It would be akin to me going out and spending $50,000 on a Honda Civic, then complaining that the price of cars needs to be regulated because I'm poor after having spent all of my money on a Civic.

Idiots.

Redsland
11-21-2006, 10:04 AM
Wow.

The Dodgers? Overpay?

Juan Pierre and Darren Driefort should have a lot to talk about.

LoganBuck
11-21-2006, 12:04 PM
Did the Dodgers confiscate some of that crack from the Pujols kid? I would rather pay Eric Milton that much money, at least he can hit.

Red Leader
11-21-2006, 12:55 PM
So, who leads off Furcal or Pierre?

I'm guessing that the most recent overpaid player leads off (Pierre) and that Furcal hits 2nd.

Wow, that team is now "scrappy" to the max.

Outshined_One
11-22-2006, 12:17 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what Dodger fans say 2-3 years from now when Pierre's speed begins to decline.

It's his only plus tool.

westofyou
11-22-2006, 12:31 AM
That's a lot of money for a guy who made over 1550 outs over the last 3 seasons.


CAREER
2004-2006
HITS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
EXTRA BASE HITS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
REACHED BASE vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
OBA vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria

OUTS OUTS H EBH RB OBA RC/G
1 Juan Pierre 1553 65 -70 -16 .002 -.39
2 Jimmy Rollins 1509 51 26 6 -.001 0.65
3 Michael Young 1476 136 28 95 .028 1.31
4 Miguel Tejada 1444 109 48 78 .027 1.30
5 Ichiro Suzuki 1436 188 -46 157 .042 1.75
6 Alfonso Soriano 1429 21 63 -15 -.009 1.10
7 Hank Blalock 1423 0 9 0 -.003 0.05
8 Derek Jeter 1416 107 6 149 .050 1.68
9 Chone Figgins 1410 23 -39 17 .010 0.06
10 Edgar Renteria 1396 29 -17 -2 .003 -.38

westofyou
11-22-2006, 12:33 AM
http://www.baseballanalysts.com/


Well, it's no longer on the McCourts. You see, the Pierre signing is on Colletti and nobody else. No blaming Frank and Jamie here. No blaming Paul DePodesta. Heck, you can't even blame Al Campanis for this one.

As a public service for all Dodgers fans, I am hereby releasing the sequel to last year's blockbuster. The name of the movie? Making Ned Resign. Just in time for the Thanksgiving holiday.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/makingnedresign.jpg

westofyou
11-22-2006, 07:52 PM
"Juan's ability to hit combined with his speed make him a perfect catalyst for our lineup," Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said in a statement. "His work ethic and character are second-to-none, and he knows what it takes to win. He's dedicated to the community and I truly believe the city of Los Angeles is going to love this player."

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9823159

Reds4Life
11-22-2006, 07:59 PM
If I see another GM mention "knows what it takes to win" I might vomit.

GAC
11-23-2006, 05:50 AM
So, who leads off Furcal or Pierre?

I'm guessing that the most recent overpaid player leads off (Pierre) and that Furcal hits 2nd.

Over the last two seasons, Pierre's OB% and walk rate has dropped like a rock. I'd go with Furcal.

StillFunkyB
11-23-2006, 07:27 AM
Good lord.

I was thinking the same thing.

These contracts, especially this one, are not good for the game. I know they just signed a new CBA, but I see bad things ahead when an average at best player gets superstar type money.