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camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 09:41 AM
It's a simple topic. Would Bernie Williams be a good fit with the Reds (and vice versa)? There's a decent chance the Yanks won't re-sign him, the Reds need a right-handed bat, he has veteran leadership with tons of playoff experience, and I'd say he's probably in the Reds' price range (he made less than $3,000,000 last year).

Personally, I think he'd be a perfect platoon with Griffey. Also, he can play all three outfield spots if needed. Granted, the odds are slim that he'd come to Cincinnati over whatever other options there may be, but if he's willing, I think Way-K should go for it.

What do all of you think? Is it at all possible? Would it make sense for the Reds?

RFS62
12-13-2006, 09:50 AM
Oh lord.

A platoon of turtles in centerfield

We'd have the market cornered on AARP outfielders

Pass.

Redus
12-13-2006, 10:01 AM
he's done

NJReds
12-13-2006, 10:06 AM
Yeah. I love Bernie, but he's got very little left in the tank.

Highlifeman21
12-13-2006, 10:11 AM
Makes absolutely no sense for the Reds.

Bernie Williams is a DH at best. If he were to platoon with KGJ, they would combined to be the biggest defensive liability in MLB history.

George Anderson
12-13-2006, 10:13 AM
If Bernie would sign for league minimum then sure why not. He would be a good fit for a pinch hitting role. But anything spent over that is a waste because it could be better spent on badly needed pitching!!

RedsManRick
12-13-2006, 10:14 AM
Bernie Williams is like Johnny Damon with the power, speed, or hair.

JaxRed
12-13-2006, 10:18 AM
I think he meant without...

But he and Bronson could have some cool late night jam sessions

Falls City Beer
12-13-2006, 10:20 AM
I think Bernie Williams would rather retire in dignity than to come to the crab shack known as the Reds.

Heath
12-13-2006, 10:21 AM
The scream and thud you just heard from the Greater Cincinnati Area was vaticanplum with a yelp of joy followed by a faint.

and now, back to your reguarly scheduled broadcast.....

noskill27
12-13-2006, 10:22 AM
No thanks... he's a DH who isn't a DH-type hitter...

remdog
12-13-2006, 11:09 AM
No, no, and no.

Rem

camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 12:52 PM
Well, there's no doubt that it's all a little unrealistic, but for the record, he crushes left-handers, and the Reds need a right-handed bat. Also, what better way to ride off into the sunset than to put up some stats in a hitter's ballpark?

Joseph
12-13-2006, 12:56 PM
Word is Bernie is going to sign with the Tokyo [?] Giants of the Japan league for an outrageous sum, play one year there [though it will be a two year deal] and then hang em up.

princeton
12-13-2006, 02:48 PM
I wanted to trade Paul O'Neill for him

Chip R
12-13-2006, 02:53 PM
The scream and thud you just heard from the Greater Cincinnati Area was vaticanplum with a yelp of joy followed by a faint.

and now, back to your reguarly scheduled broadcast.....


Indeed. :laugh: But I bet she would rather see Bernie retire with the Yankees.

alexad
12-13-2006, 03:49 PM
We have people who think JR. is past his prime and now they want us to sign Bernie Williams. That makes no sense to me.

camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm talking about a one-year contract. But you guys are right--Bubba Crosby and Josh Hamilton would probably be much better options at this point in their careers. Bernie Williams and his four World Series rings probably wouldn't play the game the right way anyway.

BRM
12-13-2006, 04:35 PM
I'm talking about a one-year contract. But you guys are right--Bubba Crosby and Josh Hamilton would probably be much better options at this point in their careers. Bernie Williams and his four World Series rings probably wouldn't play the game the right way anyway.

Can his four rings play defense or swing a bat? Bernie was pretty darn good several years ago but he's well past his prime. I guess I'd take him as a reserve outfielder if he'd come cheap but no way he'd ever play CF.

camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 04:46 PM
I think he hit .281 last year (and .335 against left-handers). As for defense, is the four-time Gold Glover really that bad?

BRM
12-13-2006, 04:49 PM
I think he hit .281 last year (and .335 against left-handers). As for defense, is the four-time Gold Glover really that bad?

Griffey is a 10-time Gold Glover and he's that bad. Bernie's probably a little better but he's nothing more than a left fielder anymore. Like I said, I wouldn't mind him as a 4th or 5th outfielder if he's cheap.

Ravenlord
12-13-2006, 04:50 PM
I think he hit .281 last year (and .335 against left-handers). As for defense, is the four-time Gold Glover really that bad?

Griffey has a bunch of Gold Gloves...Abreu and Grudzielanek both have GG. hell, Palmeiro has one and he only played 18 games in the field.

Roy Tucker
12-13-2006, 04:54 PM
It must be the off-season. 2 pages of discussing signing Bernie Williams?

I hear Cesar Geronimo is available.

RFS62
12-13-2006, 05:20 PM
Whither Al Kaline?

camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 05:27 PM
Griffey is a 10-time Gold Glover and he's that bad. Bernie's probably a little better but he's nothing more than a left fielder anymore. Like I said, I wouldn't mind him as a 4th or 5th outfielder if he's cheap.
Yeah, I agree on the fourth outfielder thing. I'd gladly sign Williams to a one year, $2,500,000 contract (although that may not be "cheap"), even if he'd just be the fourth outfielder. However, I wouldn't say Griffey is "bad", even at this point in his career.

BRM
12-13-2006, 05:29 PM
Yeah, I agree on the fourth outfielder thing. I'd gladly sign Williams to a one year, $2,500,000 contract (although that may not be "cheap"), even if he'd just be the fourth outfielder. However, I wouldn't say Griffey is "bad", even at this point in his career.

2.5 is a little too much for me. Griffey is the worst centerfielder in baseball by nearly every metric you can find. He's "bad".

camisadelgolf
12-13-2006, 05:47 PM
What about 1.5 + incentives?

BRM
12-13-2006, 05:49 PM
I don't think it matters. I can't see Bernie being willing to come to Cincinnati as a backup outfielder. Craig Wilson is a more reasonable target.

Degenerate39
12-13-2006, 07:53 PM
We have enough old farts on this team please not another one.

vaticanplum
12-13-2006, 09:06 PM
Indeed. :laugh: But I bet she would rather see Bernie retire with the Yankees.

Yeah, you're right. Boy, would I love the chance to see him play regularly though. But he should retire with the Yankees and I think he probably will. It'd be pretty hard for him to improve on his career at this point, and he doesn't strike me as the type to play baseball at any cost. He has other things to do, you know. Because he is a rennaissance man who plays classical guitar, turns water to wine, spins the earth, that sort of thing.

Chip R
12-13-2006, 09:21 PM
Because he is a rennaissance man who plays classical guitar, turns water to wine, spins the earth, that sort of thing.

Sounds like Deno and Jim Coombs have nothing on Bernie. ;)

Crumbley
12-13-2006, 11:51 PM
If this were Outside the Park Baseball I'd have no issue with this. Unfortunately, this is real life and there is no way on Earth Bernie Williams would come to Cincinnati to be an also ran outfielder.

Falls City Beer
12-13-2006, 11:55 PM
He'd be great as Arthur the Aardvark in a live action version of "Arthur."

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/images/local/vmgartists/f6d74e86-6577-4a19-ac5e-c570146fc0f3.jpg

http://www.dltk-kids.com/crafts/cartoons/image/sarthur.gif

jmcclain19
12-14-2006, 05:06 AM
Sounds like Deno and Jim Coombs have nothing on Bernie. ;)

I heard Jim Coombs once took a.....no wait...sorry I just....I just can't. Even if you put it on a tee for me, I just can't hit it out.