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Goten
12-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Any members here? Is it worth purchasing a membership?

Edit: Let me also add that it's losing ProQuest, so is it still worth joining?

George Anderson
12-21-2006, 10:13 PM
I looked at the SABR site for the first time today. I am curious also.

westofyou
12-21-2006, 10:42 PM
Any members here? Is it worth purchasing a membership?

Edit: Let me also add that it's losing ProQuest, so is it still worth joining?

Yep, they have Baseball Magazine and you can get a discount on TSN, I wouldn't dump my membership.

Gonna really miss proquest though.

George Anderson
12-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Yep, they have Baseball Magazine and you can get a discount on TSN, I wouldn't dump my membership.

Gonna really miss proquest though.

I saw its like $60 a year for the membership. Is there more to it than just the magazine???

westofyou
12-21-2006, 10:59 PM
I saw its like $60 a year for the membership. Is there more to it than just the magazine???

There are countless research tools and you get a few periodicals and books every year. I got a copy of Green Cathedral (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Cathedrals-Ultimate-Celebrations-Ballparks/dp/0201622297)s in the mail the other day, plus the group here in Portland is pretty robust, there's a couple of BP guys, Rob Neyer, Mark Armour and some heavies in Sabr itself.

Pretty interesting.

Here's a list of some of their "perks"

Above and to your left in the menu are links to both public and members-only research assets. They are:

The SABR Encyclopedia
The Baseball Index
The SABR Lending Library
The SABR-L Archives
ProQuest Historical Newspapers
Heritage Quest Genealogical Resources
Archives USA
Amateur Athletic Association of LA Digitized Sports Periodicals
SABR Research Committees
SABR Chapter Resources
Triple Plays Database

nycredsfan
12-21-2006, 11:10 PM
You can use Proquest for free through a number of public library sites including Cincinnati's.

westofyou
12-21-2006, 11:18 PM
You can use Proquest for free through a number of public library sites including Cincinnati's.

Yep, but I used to be able to use it from my basement.

Alas, I'll find a subscription service for newspapers.

I do belong to Paper of Record (http://www.paperofrecord.com/) too.

George Anderson
12-21-2006, 11:19 PM
There are countless research tools and you get a few periodicals and books every year. I got a copy of Green Cathedral (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Cathedrals-Ultimate-Celebrations-Ballparks/dp/0201622297)s in the mail the other day, plus the group here in Portland is pretty robust, there's a couple of BP guys, Rob Neyer, Mark Armour and some heavies in Sabr itself.

Pretty interesting.

Here's a list of some of their "perks"

Above and to your left in the menu are links to both public and members-only research assets. They are:

The SABR Encyclopedia
The Baseball Index
The SABR Lending Library
The SABR-L Archives
ProQuest Historical Newspapers
Heritage Quest Genealogical Resources
Archives USA
Amateur Athletic Association of LA Digitized Sports Periodicals
SABR Research Committees
SABR Chapter Resources
Triple Plays Database

So whats a SABR meeting like?? A bunch of guys sitting around drinking beer and talking about baseball history?? If thats the case I am in. I can probally talk with more intelligence about the 1970 Reds than I can the 2006 Reds.

nycredsfan
12-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Some libraries, including Cincinnati, will let you use it from home. All you have to do is punch in your card number and pin. It doesn't look like Multnomah will let you do this (I assume that is your library), but you probably know someone in Cinci who will share their card.

On a side note, the director of the library I work for was ranting about Multnomah's inflated circulation statistics a while back. They consistently have the highest circulation for libraries of that size in the country. He seems to think there is some shenanigans.

westofyou
12-21-2006, 11:51 PM
Some libraries, including Cincinnati, will let you use it from home. All you have to do is punch in your card number and pin. It doesn't look like Multnomah will let you do this (I assume that is your library), but you probably know someone in Cinci who will share their card.

On a side note, the director of the library I work for was ranting about Multnomah's inflated circulation statistics a while back. They consistently have the highest circulation for libraries of that size in the country. He seems to think there is some shenanigans.
They really pump the library here, way more then they did in the Bay Area, this is a big book/writers town as well.

Thanks for the tip on the Cincy library, I'll talk to my buddy or inlaws.... that really rocks.

Goten
12-22-2006, 12:39 AM
Yep, they have Baseball Magazine and you can get a discount on TSN, I wouldn't dump my membership.

Gonna really miss proquest though.

West - Cool. I may join tomorrow. I've asked around a lot about this, and all have said it's worth it, even though proquest will be gone. One question though - Do you have to attend any of the meetings? Is it mandatory?

westofyou
12-22-2006, 10:03 AM
Do you have to attend any of the meetings? Is it mandatory?

No, not at all.

We have 3 a or 4 a year, I tend to go to local ones and have yet to make a Seattle one, which usually involves a UW or Mariners game.

reds1869
12-22-2006, 12:32 PM
SABR member here. It is well worth it for the publications alone. In my case, I'm under 30 so membership is extremely cheap.

George Anderson
12-22-2006, 12:53 PM
SABR member here. It is well worth it for the publications alone. In my case, I'm under 30 so membership is extremely cheap.

What are the publications like??? I have subscribed to "Baseball Digest" for 25 years and love it simply for the articles on the old time players. Is it similar to that??

westofyou
12-22-2006, 12:58 PM
What are the publications like??? I have subscribed to "Baseball Digest" for 25 years and love it simply for the articles on the old time players. Is it similar to that??

One of the primary initial goals of SABR was to establish a publication where members could get research published and shared with like-minded students of baseball. The Baseball Research Journal (http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/bookinfo/4985.html) was launched in 1972 with 19 articles including "Ty Cobb Steals Home," "The Pinch Grand Slam," "Tigers Best at Triple Plays," and "East Meets West in Negro Games." The Journal, combined with a newsletter, The SABR Bulletin, and a membership directory for networking purposes, formed a solid publishing base to fulfill SABR's objectives. In 1982, SABR added The National Pastime (http://unp.unl.edu/bookinfo/4588.html) to its publication program. A review of baseball history, The National Pastime compliments The Baseball Research Journal with longer articles and more photos.

During the 1980s, SABR began issuing occasional books and by the 1990s had established a tradition of providing at least one and sometimes two books each year as part of the membership benefit.

George Anderson
12-22-2006, 01:01 PM
One of the primary initial goals of SABR was to establish a publication where members could get research published and shared with like-minded students of baseball. The Baseball Research Journal (http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/bookinfo/4985.html) was launched in 1972 with 19 articles including "Ty Cobb Steals Home," "The Pinch Grand Slam," "Tigers Best at Triple Plays," and "East Meets West in Negro Games." The Journal, combined with a newsletter, The SABR Bulletin, and a membership directory for networking purposes, formed a solid publishing base to fulfill SABR's objectives. In 1982, SABR added The National Pastime (http://unp.unl.edu/bookinfo/4588.html) to its publication program. A review of baseball history, The National Pastime compliments The Baseball Research Journal with longer articles and more photos.

During the 1980s, SABR began issuing occasional books and by the 1990s had established a tradition of providing at least one and sometimes two books each year as part of the membership benefit.

Thanks...I will be joining!!

Superdude
12-22-2006, 01:07 PM
So whats a SABR meeting like?? A bunch of guys sitting around drinking beer and talking about baseball history?? If thats the case I am in. I can probally talk with more intelligence about the 1970 Reds than I can the 2006 Reds.

It looks more like a bunch of guys arguing about whether or not Harry Potter is the best book ever. Or maybe whether the new episodes of Star Wars live up to the hype. In other words, it looks like a hardcore nerd fest, but you can make the call.

westofyou
12-22-2006, 01:10 PM
It looks more like a bunch of guys arguing about whether or not Harry Potter is the best book ever. Or maybe whether the new episodes of Star Wars live up to the hype. In other words, it looks like a hardcore nerd fest, but you can make the call.

Do you read books on Baseball?

If so these are the guys who write most of them, so beat on them if you must but know this.

I can't stand fantasy movies like the aforementioned dreck.

So who's the geek?

You make the call.

BoydsOfSummer
12-22-2006, 10:14 PM
That looks like Tom Tippett and Luke Kramer from Diamond-Mind over on the right side.

Superdude
12-22-2006, 11:10 PM
Do you read books on Baseball?

If so these are the guys who write most of them, so beat on them if you must but know this.

Believe me, I appreciate their work with all my heart, but I don't think I'd want to hang with them.

westofyou
12-22-2006, 11:32 PM
Believe me, I appreciate their work with all my heart, but I don't think I'd want to hang with them.

Understood, but sometimes the geekiest guys are the ones to watch out for.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/authors/william-s-burroughs/burrough.jpg

Goten
12-23-2006, 12:29 AM
How long does it take an order for membership to register? I just purchased one, and I know I submitted the right e-mail address, because I received a confirmation from SABR. Is there anything I need to do to finalize it?

Chip R
12-23-2006, 12:35 AM
How long does it take an order for membership to register? I just purchased one, and I know I submitted the right e-mail address, because I received a confirmation from SABR. Is there anything I need to do to finalize it?


They should send an e-mail to you so you can log on to the website and get all the info that is available to members.

Goten
12-23-2006, 11:11 PM
They should send an e-mail to you so you can log on to the website and get all the info that is available to members.

Yep, that's what happened. It's now time for me to explore...:D

TRF
12-24-2006, 02:54 PM
Do you read books on Baseball?

If so these are the guys who write most of them, so beat on them if you must but know this.

I can't stand fantasy movies like the aforementioned dreck.

So who's the geek?

You make the call.

So if you can't stand it, its dreck?

Hey, I like movies like The Conversation and My Dinner with Andre. But, I'm a parent too, and Harry Potter rocks. In both print and the theaters.

I also read comics, the Art of War, and anything by Piers Anthony.


And I started reading Bill James in 1985. I'm not a member of SABR, but when my kids finally move out, I probably will be.

I'll also have 20 subscriptions to Marvel Comics.

Reds Nd2
12-25-2006, 02:44 PM
MLB. com has a video segment from the 2006 SABR convention in Seattle. You can watch the twenty minute feature here. The link is at the bottom of the page on the left.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/mediacenter/programs.jsp

pedro
12-25-2006, 02:53 PM
It looks more like a bunch of guys arguing about whether or not Harry Potter is the best book ever. Or maybe whether the new episodes of Star Wars live up to the hype. In other words, it looks like a hardcore nerd fest, but you can make the call.


Please post a picture of yourself so we can critique your looks and check your "coolness" factor.

Thanks.