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RBA
01-01-2007, 07:56 PM
Obviously Michigan was/is not the number 2 team in the country. :evil:

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 07:59 PM
Danelo the kicker is killing me. This should be a three possession game if he made those two XPs. Booty has overthrown two guys for TDs, but overall has played good.

Game isn't over yet due to Danelo.

RBA
01-01-2007, 08:04 PM
USC will open the 2007 Season ranked on top. Will they be able to stay there?

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 08:13 PM
32-11 now! Dwayne Jarrett is incredible. He and Steve Smith are now both over 1000 yards.

Our defense has played incredible this game. Next years defense is going to rival Miami's from a few years ago.

MWM
01-01-2007, 08:24 PM
Dwayne Jarrett is a great player, but he needs a lesson in humility. His antics in the press conference after the Notre Dame game and now his lack of sportsmanship in this game have been a bit ridiculous.

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 08:33 PM
32-18 final score.

The whole team looked terrific. I hope Kiffin opens the offense up next season in the same manner that he did in the second half of this game.

Playadlc
01-01-2007, 08:35 PM
Michigan flat quit with sufficient time to win.

They mailed it in after the 2nd SC TD of the second half. I'm rapidly losing respect for them.

They played with absolutely no heart tonight, and obviously weren't close to deserving a rematch with OSU. When a team looks this bad with all their hype, they should spend time in the slammer. What a crock.

Yeah, I know they scored a late TD, but the assessment still stands.

traderumor
01-01-2007, 08:38 PM
It is really difficult to see folks so deride the mighty Wolverines :evil:

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Tonight was the first time I've ever seen Jarrett taunt someone, so that guy must have been talking trash to DJ all night. Plus the guy took a cheap shot on Jarrett in the endzone.

Spring~Fields
01-01-2007, 08:50 PM
It is really difficult to see folks so deride the mighty Wolverines :evil:

I am appalled. ;)

Guess the center snaps do matter after all.



By the way, Penn St and Wisconsin beat a couple teams from that outstanding conference down south.


Tennessee 10 Penn St 20

Arkansas 14 Wisconsin 17

GAC
01-01-2007, 08:51 PM
Where did Michigan learn how to tackle? Purely pitiful display IMO.

I've been watching last year's OSU Tostitos Bowl win over ND on Buckeye Football Classics (FSN). It has been much more interesting.

Love listening to some of the comments made in that game now that it's a year later. Musberger - "The Buckeyes are going to go into the '07 season ranked very high, maybe #1 in the pre-season poll.".....

"Notre Dame is gonna have a really tough schedule next year." ;)

Playadlc
01-01-2007, 08:52 PM
Tonight was the first time I've ever seen Jarrett taunt someone, so that guy must have been talking trash to DJ all night. Plus the guy took a cheap shot on Jarrett in the endzone.

He took a cheap shot on him because Jarrett was pointing at him from the 7 yard line to the endzone.

He is lucky he didn't get laid out for that crap.

ochre
01-01-2007, 08:53 PM
Dwayne Jarrett is a great player, but he needs a lesson in humility. His antics in the press conference after the Notre Dame game and now his lack of sportsmanship in this game have been a bit ridiculous.
Revisit his verbal commitment to Ohio State and his ongoing insistence that his verbal was solid right up until signing day for further evidence of his "character".

Spring~Fields
01-01-2007, 08:56 PM
Where did Michigan learn how to tackle? Purely pitiful display IMO.



They give up just too many big plays against teams that come ready to play.

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 08:59 PM
Revisit his verbal commitment to Ohio State and his ongoing insistence that his verbal was solid right up until signing day for further evidence of his "character".

Jarrett never commited to OSU, IIRC. Tom Lemming (who most despise) falsely reported that. Jarrett wanted to go to SC but his mom was pressuring him to stay closer to home - DJ eventually won her over and chose USC on signing day. Jarrett has shown nothing but class while at SC. That guy must have been talking major trash for DJ to do something like that.

OesterPoster
01-01-2007, 09:04 PM
Jarrett never commited to OSU, IIRC. Tom Lemming (who most despise) falsely reported that. Jarrett wanted to go to SC but his mom was pressuring him to stay closer to home - DJ eventually won her over and chose USC on signing day. Jarrett has shown nothing but class while at SC. That guy must have been talking major trash for DJ to do something like that.


Wrong. Jarrett was a silent verbal to the coaches, and it had nothing to do with that dork Lemming. This was before the Big Ten allowed schools to send out 5 more LOIs than scholarships they had available. OSU was only permitted to send out the same number of LOIs as scholarships they had available that year, and they sent one to Jarrett. They're not going to waste a LOI on a kid who didn't already give them a silent verbal.

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Wrong. Jarrett was a silent verbal to the coaches, and it had nothing to do with that dork Lemming. This was before the Big Ten allowed schools to send out 5 more LOIs than scholarships they had available. OSU was only permitted to send out the same number of LOIs as scholarships they had available that year, and they sent one to Jarrett. They're not going to waste a LOI on a kid who didn't already give them a silent verbal.

I just looked it up, and, no, Jarrett was never commited to OSU.
In fact, here is his quote:

WeAreSC- Have any other schools come in lately for in-home visits?

Jarrett- ďOhio State came in, and thatís about it, because I already told everyone else that I wasnít going to their school. Itís really just USC and Ohio State. That meeting went good. They told me how much they need a receiver to come in there and play and everything.Ē

WeAreSC- Do you have a leader out of those two?

Jarrett- ďNo, Iím just really thinking hard about those two. I donít really have a leader. Iíve still got a little more thinking to do.Ē


BTW, you guys are thinking of Fred Davis. He was verbally commited to OSU and then changed his mind and committed to USC.

ochre
01-01-2007, 09:10 PM
I just looked it up, and, no, Jarrett was never commited to OSU.
In fact, here is his quote:

WeAreSC- Have any other schools come in lately for in-home visits?

Jarrett- ďOhio State came in, and thatís about it, because I already told everyone else that I wasnít going to their school. Itís really just USC and Ohio State. That meeting went good. They told me how much they need a receiver to come in there and play and everything.Ē

WeAreSC- Do you have a leader out of those two?

Jarrett- ďNo, Iím just really thinking hard about those two. I donít really have a leader. Iíve still got a little more thinking to do.Ē


BTW, you guys are thinking of Fred Davis. He was verbally commited to OSU and then changed his mind and committed to USC.
No. I am thinking of Jarrett. He's also the one that changed Davis' mind according to most accounts I've read. That and Petey telling him he was his "Number 1 Guy".

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 09:12 PM
No. I am thinking of Jarrett. He's also the one that changed Davis' mind according to most accounts I've read. That and Petey telling him he was his "Number 1 Guy".

Davis commited to USC before Jarrett.

I've got all of the Jarrett stories from 2004 right here in front of me and not one of them mention him verballing to OSU.

ochre
01-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Bill Conley, OSU's recruiting coordinator at the time, said in a chat, after he left the program, that Jarrett indeed verballed to the coaches that year. Believe what you want though.

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showpost.php?p=75343&postcount=35

reds44
01-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Obviously Michigan was/is not the number 2 team in the country. :evil:
Correct. Boise is.

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Not calling you a liar but that's way different from the info I received. GarryP (who works for USC) from WeAreSC said Jarrett always favored SC but his mom wanted him to stay close to home which is why he didn't announce to SC earlier.

ochre
01-01-2007, 09:32 PM
Not calling you a liar but that's way different from the info I received. GarryP (who works for USC) from WeAreSC said Jarrett always favored SC but his mom wanted him to stay close to home which is why he didn't announce to SC earlier.
I don't consider it my character that's in question, just Jarrett's :)

Why/how would the WeAreSC peeps know what Jarrett told the OSU staff? If you only look at it from that angle, you'll likely only get 1/3 of the story :)

ochre
01-01-2007, 09:34 PM
On another note, OSU's staff deserves some of the blame. Richard Washington did the same thing to them the previous year (maybe 2), causing them to send a letter of intent to him, rather than Buster Davis. Davis, from all indications, would have signed with OSU, had they a LOI to send him. To my knowledge, OSU doesn't over-sign.

remdog
01-01-2007, 09:53 PM
What happened to the nice little Michigan bashing thread we had going here before you two (OBM & Ochre) hijacked the thread with some thing that only the two of you are interested in?

At this point a moderator (ahem!) should step in and tell you two to take it private.

Rem

remdog
01-01-2007, 09:55 PM
I only saw the last quarter. Did USC dominate most of the game or just run away with it at the end?

Does this mean USC should have been playing OSU (as many would have liked)? Guess we'll find out next Monday.

Rem

RBA
01-01-2007, 09:59 PM
I only saw the last quarter. Did USC dominate most of the game or just run away with it at the end?

Rem

Half-Time was 3-3. So I would say that USC just ran (or passed) away with it at the end.

traderumor
01-01-2007, 10:02 PM
I only saw the last quarter. Did USC dominate most of the game or just run away with it at the end?

Does this mean USC should have been playing OSU (as many would have liked)? Guess we'll find out next Monday.

RemThe offense dominated in the second half, the D the whole game. It really was not pretty for the guys in the ugly uniforms. The UM D was exposed more in those last two games than Larry Harrison in front of the dorms .

ochre
01-01-2007, 10:06 PM
The offense dominated in the second half, the D the whole game. It really was not pretty for the guys in the ugly uniforms. The UM D was exposed more than Larry Harrison in front of the dorms in those last two games.
Kind of makes one wonder about the "Ron English is Michigan's savior" movement a bit doesn't it?

Is it ok with you if I bring up a Michigan coach rem? I'd hate to irritate you in your inability to skip posts you aren't interested in again.

OnBaseMachine
01-01-2007, 10:09 PM
What happened to the nice little Michigan bashing thread we had going here before you two (OBM & Ochre) hijacked the thread with some thing that only the two of you are interested in?

At this point a moderator (ahem!) should step in and tell you two to take it private.

Rem

There is a scroll button on the right to scroll down through the posts you don't want to read.

GridironGrace
01-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Yes.. ends that question about a rematch..

But for what its worth.. the intensity and fire that was in TTUN when they came to the Horseshoe wasnt there today... USC had that fire... they didnt.. and thats why they lost

wasnt the same team IMO..

Chip R
01-01-2007, 10:12 PM
I only saw the last quarter. Did USC dominate most of the game or just run away with it at the end?

Does this mean USC should have been playing OSU (as many would have liked)? Guess we'll find out next Monday.

Rem


The debate about Michigan being #1 is over but Rem may be on to something. After all, OSU only beat Michigan by 3 while USC beat the crap out of them. Could it be that a 2 loss USC team is better than an undefeated OSU team?

GridironGrace
01-01-2007, 10:24 PM
TODAY!!! They didnt play OSU lol

Yes.. comon opponent.. but im sorry.. even the rose bowl doesnt compare to the intensity and desire to win the Buckeye/Michigan game :) ESPECIALLY this year when both are undefeated playing for the right to be in the Nat. Title game.

TTUN just didnt look like the same team that came to the horseshoe.. and had they played today vs the Bucks.. and played the same way they played.. we'd have whooped them worse(we being the bucks)

This is the reason games are played.. UCLA didnt have a chance vs USC right???? Well they won. Play that game again 2 weeks from now and i bet USC POUNDS THEM!!! Heck replay it again the night after the actuall game and USC pounds them.. its just one of those things.

TTUN didnt match the intensity that USC played with.. and they lost... not to mention they didnt cut Henne loose early enough.. USC threw like 28 passes and only ran 4 times in the 2nd half while compiling all those points... Mich tried to run and never could get it going...

Your Defense can only be on the field so long b4 the opposing team figures out what hurts you most.. not to mention the way they seemed groggy

Buckeye33
01-01-2007, 10:27 PM
The debate about Michigan being #1 is over but Rem may be on to something. After all, OSU only beat Michigan by 3 while USC beat the crap out of them. Could it be that a 2 loss USC team is better than an undefeated OSU team?

That can be debated every single year. I would have taken OSU against either USC or Texas last year at the end of the season and thought OSU would beat either.

Just like the year USC had 2 losses and spanked Iowa, they probably were playing the best at the end of the season.

And people believe that LSU has the best overall team this season. Except for one thing, OSU won every game they played this season. USC had their chance to prove they were the best, except they lost to a not very good UCLA team.

Then you have to factor in that UM was incredibly dissappointed that they didn't get a rematch and were probably slightly more amped for the #1 vs #2 OSU/UM rivalry game. Also, they have LLLLLoyd Carr as their coach.

Cedric
01-01-2007, 10:30 PM
The debate about Michigan being #1 is over but Rem may be on to something. After all, OSU only beat Michigan by 3 while USC beat the crap out of them. Could it be that a 2 loss USC team is better than an undefeated OSU team?

I agree! Oregon State is clearly the best team in the country now.

It's official.

GridironGrace
01-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Only team in the nation that has anything to say about the BCS system this season is playing Oklahoma right now and they have a 21-10 halftime lead and a 12-0 record

Oh and they only scored less than 36 points in 2 of those wins (on the road)

George Foster
01-01-2007, 10:35 PM
I am appalled. ;)

Guess the center snaps do matter after all.



By the way, Penn St and Wisconsin beat a couple teams from that outstanding conference down south.


Tennessee 10 Penn St 20

Arkansas 14 Wisconsin 17

When you have NINE teams playing in bowl games you can't go 9-0. The SEC is still winning more than they lost, and an SEC team will win that Bowl game next week as well.

5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM
01-01-2007, 10:36 PM
The debate about Michigan being #1 is over but Rem may be on to something. After all, OSU only beat Michigan by 3 while USC beat the crap out of them. Could it be that a 2 loss USC team is better than an undefeated OSU team?
No way, i was just telling my wife that this would come up on the Ohio State bashing espn. Never would have thought it would be on here first.

RedFanAlways1966
01-01-2007, 10:37 PM
The results so far for BCS Top 25 teams.

The upsets by the pre-Bowl standings for completed games are:
* USC (5) over Michigan (3)
* Georgia (NR) over Virginia Tech (15)
* Penn State (NR) over Tennessee (17)
* Florida State (NR) over UCLA (25)



BOWL RESULTS - BCS Top 25
Rk Team BCS Bowl Rk Oppo

1 Ohio State 1.000 Jan.8 2 FLa
2 Florida 0.945 Jan.8 1 OSU
3 Michigan 0.934 Lost 5 USC, 18-32
4 LSU 0.833 WED 11 ND
5 South Cal 0.795 Won 3 Mich, 32-18
6 Louisville 0.794 TUES 14 Wake
7 Wisconsin 0.748 Won 12 Arkan, 17-14
8 Boise St 0.710 MON 10 Okla
9 Auburn 0.649 Won 23 Nebra, 17-14
10 Oklahoma 0.630 MON 8 Boise
11 Notre Dame 0.629 WED 4 LSU
12 Arkansas 0.517 Lost 7 Wisc. 14-17
13 West Virg 0.507 Won -- GT, 17-14
14 Wake Forest 0.431 TUES 6 Louis
15 Virg Tech 0.428 Lost -- Georg, 24-31
16 Rutgers 0.410 Won -- KanSt, 37-10
17 Tennessee 0.385 Lost -- PSU, 10-20
18 California 0.361 Won 21 TexAM, 45-10
19 Texas 0.288 Won -- Iowa, 26-24
20 BYU 0.208 Won -- Oregon, 38-8
21 Texas A&M 0.147 Lost 18 Califor, 10-45
22 Oregon St 0.144 Won -- Missou, 39-38
23 Nebraska 0.094 Lost 9 Auburn, 14-17
24 Bost Coll 0.089 Won -- Navy, 25-24
25 UCLA 0.065 Lost -- FlaSt, 27-44

westofyou
01-01-2007, 10:39 PM
this would come up on the Ohio State bashing espn.

ESPN, the Network handing out inferiority complexes all around middle America.

Spring~Fields
01-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Yes.. ends that question about a rematch..

But for what its worth.. the intensity and fire that was in TTUN when they came to the Horseshoe wasnt there today... USC had that fire... they didnt.. and thats why they lost

wasnt the same team IMO..

USC did not have a center with a cast on and that created two turnovers that made a 14 point difference, as neither game was ever in question without the aid of the dreaded "center".

I give the game ball to the USC center in this Rose Bowl.

Spring~Fields
01-01-2007, 10:44 PM
The debate about Michigan being #1 is over but Rem may be on to something. After all, OSU only beat Michigan by 3 while USC beat the crap out of them. Could it be that a 2 loss USC team is better than an undefeated OSU team?

I rather doubt it. :)

Spring~Fields
01-01-2007, 10:48 PM
When you have NINE teams playing in bowl games you can't go 9-0. The SEC is still winning more than they lost, and an SEC team will win that Bowl game next week as well.

I was thinking that those were two of the tough teams that Florida beat, I was rather shocked that a weak Penn St and an up and coming Wisconsin could stay in the game with them let alone beat them. I like Ohio States chances against the true number two team in the nation better now.


and an SEC team will win that Bowl game next week as well. I'll take that bet for 8 rep points and give you Florida and 6 pts Ok ? :)

RBA
01-01-2007, 10:53 PM
Thom Brennaman isn't very tall.

George Foster
01-01-2007, 11:00 PM
I was thinking that those were two of the tough teams that Florida beat, I was rather shocked that a weak Penn St and an up and coming Wisconsin could stay in the game with them let alone beat them. I like Ohio States chances against the true number two team in the nation better now.

I'll take that bet for 8 rep points and give you Florida and 6 pts Ok ? :)

Your on!:thumbup: How can I give you 8 points?

StillFunkyB
01-01-2007, 11:19 PM
Obviously Michigan was/is not the number 2 team in the country. :evil:

I was thinking the same thing. Been busy most of the day, and I just checked the ticker.

Spring~Fields
01-02-2007, 02:48 AM
Your on!:thumbup: How can I give you 8 points?

OK, You get Florida and 6pts.

Dunno how you will give me 8 rep points but that's the bet,
just don't make me send out cyber Guido and Vinny to collect. :cool:
:devil:

Go Bucks! :thumbup:

RedsBaron
01-02-2007, 06:59 AM
There is such a long layoff between the end of college football's regular season and the bowl games that one can never be sure that a team will be able to regain its intensity. I expect Ohio State to win next week, but the multi-week delay between the Michigan game and next week's Florida game is the only thing that gives me pause.
Boise State now has a great argument that it should have been matched against Ohio State.

traderumor
01-02-2007, 10:57 AM
Boise State has a great argument that they are a top 10 team. Nothing more. One cannot analyze strength of schedule for all the major programs and minimize it for a team from the WAC. There is no criteria that a team who is undefeated should be considered top ranked. According to the BCS final standings and the various polls, Boise State should have beaten Oklahoma. It wasn't even an upset. I think it is easy to see "Oklahoma" and see Billy Sims in the backfield, the Selmon brothers anchoring the DL, and Brian Bosworth playing LBer.

OnBaseMachine
01-06-2007, 11:30 PM
USC kicker Mario Danelo has been found dead. :( Only 21 years old. So sad. RIP Mario. :(

Just this past summer SC's starting point guard, Ryan Francis, was shot and killed while visiting family back home in Louisiana. Four years ago USC linebacker recruit, Drean Rucker, drowned after falling off his boat in Huntington Beach. SC has had some bad luck lately.:(

RBA
01-06-2007, 11:36 PM
:(

OnBaseMachine
01-06-2007, 11:42 PM
Danelo the kicker is killing me. This should be a three possession game if he made those two XPs. Booty has overthrown two guys for TDs, but overall has played good.

Game isn't over yet due to Danelo.

I feel like trash; I need a swift kick in the balls.

Chip R
01-06-2007, 11:56 PM
I feel like trash; I need a swift kick in the balls.


How were you to know? Did they give a cause of death?

OnBaseMachine
01-07-2007, 12:02 AM
How were you to know? Did they give a cause of death?

Scott Wolf (writer for LA Daily News) says on his blog he died of an apparent suicide. He's often wrong, and I'm hoping that's the case here. I'm hoping it was accidental for the sake of the family. So sad no matter what. You start to feel like you know these players after watching them play so much and that makes it hurt even worse. Reds fans know the feeling after the tragic death of Stenson a few years ago. :(

OnBaseMachine
01-07-2007, 12:03 AM
USC kicker Danelo found dead at bottom of cliffESPN.com news services

Mario Danelo, a kicker for the USC football team, was found dead Saturday in San Pedro, Calif.

Danelo's body was found at the bottom of White Point Cliff in San Pedro, according for a spokesman for the Los Angeles Police Department. Police did not release further details.

Danelo, a redshirt junior, walked on with the Trojans in 2003 and earned a scholarship in 2005, according to the USC athletic department's Web site.

He was 15-for-16 on field goals this season and made 44 of 48 PATs, leading the team in scoring with 89 points.

Danelo is the son of former NFL kicker Joe Danelo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2722825