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TeamCasey
01-10-2007, 09:07 AM
Sometimes you just can't help yourself.

Who's side are you on?

zombie-a-go-go
01-10-2007, 09:08 AM
Sometimes you just can't help yourself.

Who's side are you on?

The Autobots. Optimus Prime is my savior.

TeamCasey
01-10-2007, 09:08 AM
........ and is Barbara a liar?

RedFanAlways1966
01-10-2007, 09:12 AM
........ and is Barbara a liar?

I was just reading about this at a news site. I usually leave this stuff to my wife, but curiousity got the better of me. I thought it was hilarious that The Donald had the gall to write the letter to Rosie... calling out Barbara Walters and her statements to him. I hate to see two people argue and hate, but this one is funny. Two people that both get on my nerves. I guess the only thing that interests me about either one is when they are publicly fighting with each other.

max venable
01-10-2007, 10:08 AM
I think they're both enjoying it...especially Trump.

KronoRed
01-10-2007, 10:30 AM
I have no idea what this is about.

But Trump's hair is evil so I vote the other way.

GAC
01-10-2007, 10:33 AM
........ and is Barbara a liar?


They showed a hilarious clip on TV last night from the View (I think it was on The Soup. I was browsing channels). The subject of Donald came up and Barbara tells the audience that this wasn't part of the show's format for that day and that none of the woman had talked prior about what was about to be said. The problem? She was looking down and reading from a written script while saying that. Like nobody was going to notice that? :lol:

Does anyone else think that Rosie O'Donnell seems to be a very angry woman who needs anger management? She always has that facial expression of wanting to bite through nails (or someone's head).

She had no business saying what she did IMO. Didn't she start the whole thing? Is Trump in charge (or own) that particular pageant? The girl got in trouble, the media was all over it, and he had to make a decision for the sake of the pageant. He simply says that everyone deserves a second chance, and the girl is getting help. Where was he setting himself up, as Rosie says, as some sort of moral authority? Like Rosie is a moral authority? ;)

Was this the same show where Danny DeVito came on drunk last month?

RichRed
01-10-2007, 10:41 AM
I say a steel cage death match is the only way to settle this.

Chip R
01-10-2007, 10:45 AM
Can you add the "This feud is a publicity stunt" option?

MrCinatit
01-10-2007, 11:02 AM
I say a steel cage death match is the only way to settle this.

I agree. Then feed the survivor to a pack of hungry wolves on live TV.

Dom Heffner
01-10-2007, 11:27 AM
hate to see two people argue and hate, but this one is funny. Two people that both get on my nerves. I guess the only thing that interests me about either one is when they are publicly fighting with each other.


My natural inclination is to take a side in an argument, but I don't think I can here.

They are both pretty much morons.

My question is this: Did Walters really tell Trump she hated working with Rosie? He sounds believable, but then that would be a great lie to tell to drive a wedge between Rosie and her boss.

I hate 'em both but this is fun to watch. Every now and then one of them says something about the other that I've thought too but would never say out loud.

Heath
01-10-2007, 03:31 PM
I saw reference to "The Soup".

I remember, back in the day, Greg Kinnear getting his start on Comedy Central with "Talk Soup".

Wow. Good Times.

Matt700wlw
01-10-2007, 03:43 PM
Trump.

Rosie's obnoxious, and she had a sex scene in Nip/Tuck....I had to hold down my lunch during that episode.

TeamCasey
01-10-2007, 03:45 PM
Rosie.

Trump made fat jokes and is keeping the whole thing going. (although, I kind of agree with his "bully" remark ....... but coming from him, it's laughable.)

GAC
01-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Rosie.

Trump made fat jokes and is keeping the whole thing going. (although, I kind of agree with his "bully" remark ....... but coming from him, it's laughable.)


What Trump said was totally wrong. He should have taken the high road. But didn't she start it by saying some very unkind (and untrue) things about him first?

Was listening to another analysis of this situation, and it concerned Barbara Walters. Rosie is only signed for 1 year. The "rumor" is that this whole situation has been an embarassment to Walters, and she is trying to handle it the best way she can. The View's ratings, prior to hiring Rosie were tanking. It was the reason they added Rosie to try and boost the show's audience.

The rumor is that Walters has wanted out, and that after this year she will exit and the show will basically become Rosie's. So right now Barbara is "saving face" and playing along for the sake of the show's future.

Ltlabner
01-10-2007, 10:04 PM
I heard something on the radio today about Trump and Barbra having an off the record conversation reciently in which she allegidly said that working with Rosie was living hell (paraphrasing).

Apparently Donald then turned around and used that as ammo against Rosie.

<pulls up chair, gets his pop corn, and takes in the train wreck>

MWM
01-10-2007, 10:17 PM
I can't stand either one, but Rosie's right about Donald's business ethics. He's scum and screws people who have invested with him and has managed to save himself. Plus, he's nowhere near as rich as he makes himself out to be and he inherited all his money. From everyting I've heard, Donald Trump has absolutely no business IQ at all outside of promoting himself. The funniest thing of all is that even in the world of NYC real estate, he's not even one of the more significant players. There are several people whose names you've never heard that hold much more real estate in NYC than does Trump and have been much bigger players than he. He's a joke. But so is Rosie. But I agree with TC, the fat jokes are a whole lot different than Rosie's criticism of him.

GAC
01-10-2007, 10:23 PM
I can't stand either one, but Rosie's right about Donald's business ethics. He's scum and screws people who have invested with him and has managed to save himself. Plus, he's nowhere near as rich as he makes himself out to be and he inherited all his money. From everyting I've heard, Donald Trump has absolutely no business IQ at all outside of promoting himself. The funniest thing of all is that even in the world of NYC real estate, he's not even one of the more significant players. There are several people whose names you've never heard that hold much more real estate in NYC than does Trump and have been much bigger players than he. He's a joke.

That may all be true Mike; but what business is that of Rosie's? Why did she have to use that as a format for the show that morning? Had Trump, prior to this situation, ever made attacks on her? What was her justification?


But I agree with TC, the fat jokes are a whole lot different than Rosie's criticism of him.

Agreed. But what about when it was rumored that Rosie was joining the show and that Star Jones was leaving (or was fired) so Rosie could take her slot? Rosie came out publically and said some very unkind things about Jone's weight loss. What was with that?

Maybe the Views new theme music should be AC/DC's "Whole Lotta Rosie" :lol:

Ltlabner
01-10-2007, 10:23 PM
Does anyone else think that Rosie O'Donnell seems to be a very angry woman who needs anger management? She always has that facial expression of wanting to bite through nails (or someone's head).

Raises hand....

I don't see how someone can get that worked up and yell about so many different issues. We all have opinions on stuff, of course, but geez. I just get tired listening to her scream on and on and on and on. Of course the only time I listen to her are durring the short clips on The Soup. And still, those 15 second clips of her are too much for me to stomach.

Note to Roise: Because you yell something doesn't mean it's more true.

pedro
01-10-2007, 10:26 PM
I have no idea what this is about.

But Trump's hair is evil so I vote the other way.


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TeamBoone
01-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Agreed. But what about when it was rumored that Rosie was joining the show and that Star Jones was leaving (or was fired) so Rosie could take her slot? Rosie came out publically and said some very unkind things about Jone's weight loss. What was with that?

Rosie didn't replace Star; she replaced Meredith. Star left (resigned? fired? I don't know) because she doesn't like Rosie and refused to work with her.

I never heard anything about Rosie making comments regarding Jones' weight loss.

NDRed
01-10-2007, 11:47 PM
I am not making this up!

Apparently , this is a total work done in response to the ratings decline of the Apprentice show last season.

NBC and the WWE are working out details to drag this out into some type of cross-promotional deal. We may be able to look forward to a fake slap-fest.

The idea is to get people talking as the new season starts- looks like its working.

TeamMorris
01-10-2007, 11:57 PM
I watched the show that started this whole thing along with everyone after. I am for Rosie even though I agree she went a little to far a few times but not before be provoked. It's going to be an interesting fight. If Trump keeps his crap up...Barbra will end of suing him!

I just really don't care for Trump and never have. I think he is a very sneaky person who is really full of it! As for suing people, he seems to target someone or an organization a few times a month for some stupid reason. No wonder they man has so much money...has nothing to do with him being a good business man. He TV show is a joke! Thank god for good writers. They can make anyone look like they know what they are talking about or doing:rolleyes: .

paintmered
01-11-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't watch either show. I don't care about what either of these people think about each other. Money and notoriety doesn't mean I have to listen to what either of them have to say, even if what they say is done publicly.

Rose and Donald, you might as well shut up because I only have 24 precious hours in a day and I'm not going to let any of it be taken up by your noise.

Chip R
01-11-2007, 12:54 AM
I am not making this up!

Apparently , this is a total work done in response to the ratings decline of the Apprentice show last season.

NBC and the WWE are working out details to drag this out into some type of cross-promotional deal. We may be able to look forward to a fake slap-fest.

The idea is to get people talking as the new season starts- looks like its working.


Here, here!

GAC
01-11-2007, 09:00 AM
I never heard anything about Rosie making comments regarding Jones' weight loss.

I saw the clip TB. It was rather spiteful IMO. Rosie made some offhand remarks about Star's sudden weight loss, and that she had to have had surgery such as by-pass and/or stomach stapling, and that she was setting a bad example for plus size women everywhere, and that she should have been content the way she was. I felt it was none of her business, and she shouldn't have been making public comments about it. But then, that's simply Rosie. ;)

RFS62
01-11-2007, 09:51 AM
I wonder what Billy Ray Cyrus thinks about all this?

He's usually my barometer on the important issues of the day.

Team Clark
01-11-2007, 10:02 AM
Both of them are LOW, IMO. They have two totally different agendas neither of which I care for. Rosie pushes her politics and "views" (No pun) on her audience everyday. And I do mean PUSH. She's no better than Nancy Grace. If you say ANYTHING back to her you are immediately anti-gay. If your argument is that weak then just shut up. I remember her during the VH-1 VJ hosting days. She seemed so sweet and likeable.

Donald... Geez. Sure he is not a "moral compass" but neither is Rosie. Trump's whole life has been about getting over on someone else. I don't really care for that either. If you read any of his books they basically boil down to screwing someone over and being clever with your words. Street thugs can do that. How much notoriety has he received for something good? Not much. People are fascinated with his hair and his failures. Not much of a role model there.

I voted for Donald on this because he is .001% more right THIS time than Rosie. Hit me up after the next feud and I could go the other way.

Roy Tucker
01-11-2007, 10:19 AM
I wonder what Billy Ray Cyrus thinks about all this?

He's usually my barometer on the important issues of the day.

Just watch Hannah Montana on the Disney Channel. His daughter Miley is the star. He plays her dad on the show (I guess he needed a paycheck). My daughters regularly watch this show.

He no longer has a mullet.

EDIT: and I don't give a rat's butt for either Rosie or the Donald but I think this very public hissy fit is obscenely funny, sad, and horrifying all at once.

TeamCasey
01-11-2007, 10:31 AM
The latest:

(I'm entertained by it all for some reason. I think it's because they're both such cartoon-like characters. It's bizarre that Barbara Walters is trapped in a Looney Tunes episode. :laugh: )

Trump Calls Barbara 'Sad Figurehead' After Her 'Pathetic Man' Comment
Poison Pen, Part 2: Donald Trump Fires Off Another Missive at Walters and O'Donnell
By MARCUS BARAM
Jan. 10, 2007 - The Donald has struck again.

Barely an hour after Rosie O'Donnell and Barbara Walters united on "The View" to bash the real estate mogul's poison-pen letter to O'Donnell, Trump issued a statement calling Walters a liar and a "sad figurehead dominated by a third-rate comedian.

"Barbara Walters has taken the low road for the sake of her show rather than the sake of her morality," Trump said in his statement, accusing Walters of lying about her true feelings for O'Donnell.

"They didn't even have the courage to mention me by name. It was sad to see Barbara read her statement off a cue card. Rosie just pushed her out like a ('pathetic') puppet," he said, responding to Walters' calling him "that poor, pathetic man" on this morning's "View."

Trump also said he wished that Walters had never chosen him as one of her "10 Most Fascinating People" in 2004 and insisted that O'Donnell lied about the ratings for "The Apprentice."

A day after Donald Trump's now-infamous letter to Rosie O'Donnell, which threatened to drive a wedge between her and "View" co-host Barbara Walters, the two women united to lash back at him.

Walters called Trump "that poor, pathetic man" and high-fived O'Donnell on "The View" this morning.

As they came onstage and sat in their seats, O'Donnell quipped: "Well, he's at it again. How about that, Barbara?"

In his letter, Trump accused Walters of lying about her true feelings for O'Donnell. He also referred to reputed backstage confrontation between the show's co-hosts

On today's "View," O'Donnell then asked Walters: "You OK?"

Walters cooed back: "I'm OK, darling. You OK?" To which O'Donnell responded: "I'm OK, too."

Then Rosie asked: "What can you say about that guy?"

Walters responded: "That poor, pathetic man," to which the audience cheered and applauded.

O'Donnell said: "Sister friend, give me a high-five!" and reached over to high-five Walters. "He just can't let go, but we're moving on. The man is obsessed with me."

Then, O'Donnell took a swipe at the low ratings for the premiere of Trump's show, "The Apprentice," by saying, "And I'm happy to say, his show tanked. It did!"

The latest drama started when Trump fired off a scathing letter to O'Donnell at her "View" office Tuesday morning, blasting her and Walters.

In the letter, Trump referred to a report in the New York Post that described an apparent backstage confrontation between O'Donnell and Walters over the handling of the recent feud between O'Donnell and Trump.

The real estate mogul released the letter to at least one news organization, and Trump's office independently confirmed the letter's authenticity to ABC News.

Trump began the letter by expressing his hope that O'Donnell had a "wonderful vacation with your wife -- you needed the rest."

Then he went on the attack: The "article in today's New York Post indicates that you blew up at Barbara Walters for being a 'liar.' Actually, I don't blame you, but in fact she lied to both of us! After your maniacal and foolish rant against me two weeks ago, Barbara called me from her vacation (I did not call her) in order to apologize for your behavior."

Trump went on to claim that Walters tried to talk him out of taking revenge on O'Donnell and asked him to appear on "The View" to "patch things up."

He also said that Walters actually disparaged O'Donnell by telling him that "working with her is like living in hell" and "Donald, never get into the mud with pigs" and "don't worry, she won't be here for long."

After he described a reputed incident at Le Cirque restaurant two months ago, at which Trump claimed Walters told him not to "ruin my meal" by talking about O'Donnell, Trump ended the letter with a final jab: "Please give my warmest regards to Kelly!" He was referring to O'Donnell's partner, whose name, Kelli, he misspelled.

A spokesperson for Walters declined to comment on the letter. O'Donnell's spokesperson suggested that viewers tune in to "The View" tomorrow, telling the Associated Press, "It will be a great show."

Of course, this is just the latest salvo between the warring parties. From the moment it began with O'Donnell's comments on "The View" on Dec. 20, 2006, to yesterday's letter and Barbara's comeback, here's a recap of the feud:

15fan
01-11-2007, 10:33 AM
Who cares?

RFS62
01-11-2007, 12:44 PM
It's actually the most entertaining either of these two have ever been.

NYMoose
01-11-2007, 12:50 PM
Sometimes you just can't help yourself.

Who's side are you on?

Ivanca's :D

Puffy
01-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I used to really hate Rosie - from everything I've read she was a ****** to work for and treated people around her like crap. Plus I never thought she was funny.

But since she has come out I've liked her a lot more. She has done a ton for the gay community and i think thats noble of her. She has put her money where her mouth is.

Trump is a moron who jumped the shark with this Apprentice thing. He is now more concerned with being famous than he is of being a good business man.

Rosie was wrong for the reasons she challenged Trump (he was protecting an investment) but she was right about his moral compass. As I've stated she has been out there helping people since she came out and she has a right to say things about others who like to pretend to be out there but aren't, like The Donald. He has come out of this looking like an ass, IMO.

BoydsOfSummer
01-11-2007, 04:37 PM
They should have to make sexytime with each other. That'll learn 'em.

RichRed
01-11-2007, 06:04 PM
They should have to make sexytime with each other. That'll learn 'em.

Eeewww times a thousand.

GAC
01-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Rosie was wrong for the reasons she challenged Trump (he was protecting an investment) but she was right about his moral compass.

And Rosie is a moral compass? Says who? Neither really are IMO. But Trump wasn't setting himself up as some sort of moral authority by his decision to give that girl a second chance. The girl got in trouble, the media blew it up all over the place, and Trump, being in charge of that pageant (whichever one it is), was forced to have to make a decision and gave the girl a second chance and to get help. Was he suppose to ignore it? As you said - he was protecting an investment, no acting like a moral authority.

What I don't understand is why this caused Rosie to go into such a snit on the View over it?


As I've stated she has been out there helping people since she came out and she has a right to say things about others who like to pretend to be out there but aren't, like The Donald. He has come out of this looking like an ass, IMO.

Oh - so since she has "came out" and is helping others she somehow now has the right (.i.e. moral authority she rails on Donald over) to "say things about others"? Maybe that's why she's only liked by 28&#37; of the population. It's what she says about others. ;)

BUTLER REDSFAN
01-12-2007, 12:58 AM
I used to really hate Rosie - from everything I've read she was a ****** to work for and treated people around her like crap. Plus I never thought she was funny.

But since she has come out I've liked her a lot more. She has done a ton for the gay community and i think thats noble of her. She has put her money where her mouth is.

Trump is a moron who jumped the shark with this Apprentice thing. He is now more concerned with being famous than he is of being a good business man.

Rosie was wrong for the reasons she challenged Trump (he was protecting an investment) but she was right about his moral compass. As I've stated she has been out there helping people since she came out and she has a right to say things about others who like to pretend to be out there but aren't, like The Donald. He has come out of this looking like an ass, IMO.
---now why can we compliment her for her work in the gay community but if i say one thing criticising it I would never hear the end of it