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Highlifeman21
01-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Mariners or Reds?

Discuss.

M2
01-10-2007, 07:05 PM
He spent 12 seasons in Seattle and it's impossible to argue that they were anything but his best years. Mind you, I think players ought to be able to pick what team they represent.

Tornon
01-10-2007, 07:07 PM
I'd think it would have to be Seattle, seeing how he never really did much as a Red.

Highlifeman21
01-10-2007, 07:07 PM
He spent 12 seasons in Seattle and it's impossible to argue that they were anything but his best years. Mind you, I think players ought to be able to pick what team they represent.

I thought they got to choose. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I thought the player had the choice.

M2
01-10-2007, 07:11 PM
I thought they got to choose. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I thought the player had the choice.

They changed it a few years back. The HOF now predetermines what cap you wear. Given the amount of time he spent in Seattle and what he did there, Jr.'s a lock to wear a Mariners cap under the current system.

texasdave
01-10-2007, 07:11 PM
i would think the only way Junior goes in as a Red is if somehow the Reds were to win a World Series while he was here. just sayin'

MrCinatit
01-10-2007, 07:12 PM
I thought they got to choose. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I thought the player had the choice.


I was under that impression, as well. If so, I would not be surprised to see him chose his home team, though I do believe he deservedly appreciates Seattle a whole lot.

vaticanplum
01-10-2007, 07:23 PM
The Mariners as it stands now, but the next couple of years could have a lot to do with it. If Griffey stays moderately healthy and wins a Series or two with the Reds, then I would think the tide would shift.

What? Why are y'all laughing?

Mmm...seriously, he's going in as a Mariner, but if he hits a few more milestones in Cincinnati (if he's healthy enough to go well over 600, say), there's still a chance for a Reds cap.

edit: Texasdave already made this point. I'm a lil tipsy.

edit2: And M2 is right, the Hall now chooses which cap a player wears.

Ok, I've now read the whole thread.

westofyou
01-10-2007, 07:31 PM
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Danny Serafini
01-10-2007, 07:35 PM
Seattle, without a doubt. That's where his great years were spent.


They changed it a few years back. The HOF now predetermines what cap you wear.

We can all thank Tampa and Wade Boggs for that one.

KronoRed
01-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Seattle, he was Seattle baseball, they deserve it a lot more then Cincy does.

Wheelhouse
01-10-2007, 08:11 PM
No discussion. By far his greatest impact on the game was as a Mariner.

top6
01-10-2007, 08:12 PM
griffey basically was baseball in seattle for a decade. he'll go in as a mariner, barring a truly miraculous run these next few years in Cincinnati.

i do think they would let griffey pick. the only reason the HOF changed the rules was because Wayde Boggs signed a contract stating that he would go in as a Devil Ray. i think that if the player's choice is reasonable, the Hall will go along with it.

vaticanplum
01-10-2007, 09:23 PM
i do think they would let griffey pick. the only reason the HOF changed the rules was because Wayde Boggs signed a contract stating that he would go in as a Devil Ray. i think that if the player's choice is reasonable, the Hall will go along with it.

Unfortunately (depending on how you look at it), the rules are the rules, and unless they change the rules I don't think the Hall will be bending them for any player. You say that the Hall will go along with a player's choice if it's "reasonable"...but if it's reasonable, it's generally what the Hall will be picking anyway. The Boggs thing was an isolated incident that had a lot to do with the rule change, yes, but not entirely, and he's not the reason they've stuck with it.

I approve of it, actually...players should be in the Hall based on baseball achievement and its place in history, not anything personal, and the Hall is qualified to judge that.

Danny Serafini
01-10-2007, 10:04 PM
The Boggs thing was an isolated incident that had a lot to do with the rule change,

I thought Tampa had offered that deal to anyone with half a shot at the Hall, and that's why they stepped in. I remember Canseco getting the same deal (not that it mattered), maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought Tampa had done that multiple times in an attempt to get publicity.

Cyclone792
01-10-2007, 10:08 PM
If there is any doubt, apply one simple exercise: split Griffey's career in half, with one half being his time with the Mariners and the other half being his time with the Reds.

One half is Hall of Fame caliber while the other isn't. It's pretty clear which one it is too.

redsfan30
01-10-2007, 10:16 PM
Seattle, without question.

alexad
01-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Does Seattle have anyone in the Hall? If not Griffey would be the first and that would be a nice honor. He was All Century due to his playing for the M's. I would say those years are the ones that will/got him into the Hall.

Dave Winfield went in as a Padre and he had great years with the Yankees, but his Padres days were the biggest in his career.

Nolan Ryan went in as a Ranger didn't he? He had a great career with the Astros and started with the Mets.

I would say it is Seattle because his biggest numbers were there. Even if he wins a World Series with the Reds, I would think he would like to go in as an M.

Jpup
01-11-2007, 01:03 AM
Does Seattle have anyone in the Hall? If not Griffey would be the first and that would be a nice honor. He was All Century due to his playing for the M's. I would say those years are the ones that will/got him into the Hall.

Dave Winfield went in as a Padre and he had great years with the Yankees, but his Padres days were the biggest in his career.

Nolan Ryan went in as a Ranger didn't he? He had a great career with the Astros and started with the Mets.

I would say it is Seattle because his biggest numbers were there. Even if he wins a World Series with the Reds, I would think he would like to go in as an M.

Randy Johnson might go about the same time as Jr. I don't know if he would get a Seattle or Arizona cap.

Cyclone792
01-11-2007, 01:10 AM
Randy Johnson might go about the same time as Jr. I don't know if he would get a Seattle or Arizona cap.

It'll probably be Arizona.

Johnson won four of his five Cy Young Awards with Arizona, and he also had that phenomenal 2001 postseason where he picked up a World Series ring with the Diamondbacks. Toss in the fact that the Big Unit is heading back to Arizona again, and my guess is he'll be going in with an Arizona cap.

Johnny Footstool
01-11-2007, 10:16 AM
Agreed. Griffey will be the first Mariner in the HOF, and Johnson will be the first D-Back.

Roy Tucker
01-11-2007, 10:21 AM
I did notice Ripken wore this ball cap at his HoF press conference which caused me to think "hmmmmmm, is this the wave of the future?".

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