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redsupport
01-12-2007, 12:02 AM
Bench made an error and lost the game, a 4-0 lead blown in the ninth by Joe Price, how lugubrious

George Anderson
01-12-2007, 12:13 AM
Bench made an error and lost the game, a 4-0 lead blown in the ninth by Joe Price, how lugubrious

Wow, wasnt that one of the few loses they had that year??:rolleyes:

redsupport
01-12-2007, 12:21 AM
that was the most saturnine, the most doleful, the most dolorous, the most chagrin. To think that Bob Shirley took the loss is unfathomable

Roy Tucker
01-12-2007, 08:12 AM
I was probably at that game. I had season tickets that year and went to every stinkin' game. We went through a lot of Hudey so I don't remember the games as well as I should.

Who can forget the dynamic catching duo of Alex Trevino and Mike O'Berry?

dabvu2498
01-12-2007, 09:28 AM
that was the most saturnine, the most doleful, the most dolorous, the most chagrin. To think that Bob Shirley took the loss is unfathomable

More saturine than the May 8th contest in which Krenchicki could have been the hero in the 15th, but backwards K'ed instead? Shirley was the loser in that one. Hume was sublime in relief, however.

paintmered
01-12-2007, 10:50 AM
that was the most saturnine, the most doleful, the most dolorous, the most chagrin. To think that Bob Shirley took the loss is unfathomable

I think it's time to take away your thesaurus.

Roy Tucker
01-12-2007, 10:57 AM
I think it's time to take away your thesaurus.

What's another word for thesaurus?

Handofdeath
01-12-2007, 11:33 AM
I think it's time to take away your thesaurus.

Just do what I do and imagine Daffy Duck saying all that.:D

RANDY IN INDY
01-12-2007, 11:40 AM
Mike Vail and Larry Bittner could have played a prominent role in that loss.

SunDeck
01-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Bench made an error and lost the game, a 4-0 lead blown in the ninth by Joe Price, how lugubrious

I blame Boone.

Heath
01-12-2007, 12:48 PM
What's another word for thesaurus?

A really big book with words that have similar meanings?


:dunno:

RichRed
01-12-2007, 01:36 PM
I blame Boone.

Me too. Wait, which one?

RichRed
01-12-2007, 01:50 PM
I think it's time to take away your thesaurus.

That would be a shame, an obloquy, a compunction, a real opprobrium.

Yikes, it's contagious.

LINEDRIVER
01-12-2007, 02:03 PM
Soto started the game for the Reds and left after throwing 6 innings of one-hit shutout ball.

redsupport
01-12-2007, 02:13 PM
another victory for Soto, rapaciously plundered by the inadequacies of number one pick Joe Price

BoydsOfSummer
01-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Just do what I do and imagine Daffy Duck saying all that.:D:laugh::laugh::beerme:

goreds2
01-12-2007, 07:54 PM
Bench made an error and lost the game, a 4-0 lead blown in the ninth by Joe Price, how lugubrious

Was Johnny playing 3rd base that game? Why didn't the Reds trade Danny D. instead of Ray Knight?

:bang:

Heath
01-12-2007, 10:17 PM
Was Johnny playing 3rd base that game? Why didn't the Reds trade Danny D. instead of Ray Knight?

:bang:

Danny Driessen was a rare find, an undrafted FA, a real Howsam guy. Wagner didn't like Ray Knight all that much (thought he was a one-hit wonder from '79). Wagner figured that he let go all the power (even though it was declining) in Foster and Griffey, so he thought he could get Cesar Cedeno on the cheap, plug Bench at 3rd (since he'd already alerted the FO he wasn't catching anymore) and hope that Driessen would get something started at 1b.

Hey, '82 wasn't that bad - at least they could find out that Eddie Milner could play a little, Gary Redus had a nice start, and Paul Householder really sucked.

Howsam, ironically, came back in '83 and traded Danny to the Expos in '84.

jmac
01-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Soto started the game for the Reds and left after throwing 6 innings of one-hit shutout ball.

ahh...those were the days !
Soto on the mound, I mean !

LINEDRIVER
01-12-2007, 11:30 PM
I was curious as to why Soto left the game after allowing just one hit in six innings.

As it turns out, Soto was hit by a pitch in the top of the seventh-inning. Pitcher Greg Harris was used as a pinch-runner for Soto.

Soto made his next start 5 days later as the Reds beat the Mets, 6-2. In that game, Soto went the distance and allowed 7 hits, just one walk, and 8 K's.

Unassisted
01-12-2007, 11:34 PM
I was too busy celebrating an important birthday that day to care what the Reds were doing.

How many games behind were they at that point?

LINEDRIVER
01-12-2007, 11:42 PM
Through games of May 31st, the Reds were in last place in the NL West with a 19-28 record and 8 games out of first-place.

redsupport
01-13-2007, 01:10 AM
yes but with Biitner, Landestoy and Oberry they were poised to make a huge "run"

Heath
01-13-2007, 08:07 AM
yes but with Biitner, Landestoy and Oberry they were poised to make a huge "run"

ah Mike O'Berry - traded for Jay Howell.

On the flip side, Rafael Landestoy got us John Franco.

KoryMac5
01-13-2007, 12:04 PM
Were was Wayne Krenchicki as a late inning defensive replacement when you needed him.

Spitball
01-13-2007, 01:15 PM
I was too busy celebrating an important birthday that day to care what the Reds were doing.

My beautiful daughter was born two years later on that date. :thumbup:

May 31 is a very important date.

goreds2
01-14-2007, 11:13 AM
On the flip side, Rafael Landestoy got us John Franco.

It's a "domino effect". John Franco got us Randy Myers.......

Tony Cloninger
01-14-2007, 11:15 AM
What is painful to me about that year....is that i remember that year more vividly than 1975-1976 beacuse i was 15 by then and so it sticks further in your mind.

What is even scarier is that this is the kind of team WK would have liked......speed, defense, contact hitters. :D

Heath
01-14-2007, 01:30 PM
It's a "domino effect". John Franco got us Randy Myers.......

...who gave us Bip Roberts.....


(Yes, THAT Bip Roberts)

Spitball
01-14-2007, 01:45 PM
My favorite Bip Roberts memory:


Bip appeared in a 1995 MLB commercial with his then-teammate Tony Gwynn. Holding up a fictious Bip Roberts rookie card, Bip says "...that it's now worth $200 and several years from now, who knows? $1000, $2000, maybe even..." Gwynn is at this point reading the price guide and corrects Bip by pointing out that it's Robin Roberts' rookie card and that Bip's card is actually worth four cents! After Bip gets over the initial shock, he tells Gwynn that it's four cents if it's in excellent condition, but ten cents if it's totally Mint, to which Gwynn sarcastially replies, "Well, sorry..."

BoydsOfSummer
01-14-2007, 09:09 PM
I loved the Bipster. Scrappy lil on base machine he was.



BIP ROBERTS

GIVEN NAME: Leon Joseph Roberts
BORN: 10/27/1963 Berkeley, California
BAT: B THROW: R HEIGHT: 5'7" WEIGHT: 150 MLB DEBUT: 4/7/1986
CAREER GAMES BY POSITION: 2B: 501 SS: 40 3B: 147 LF: 382 CF: 72 RF: 25 DH: 45

YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
1986 Padres 22 101 241 34 61 5 2 1 0.41 12 14 29 14 12 .253 .303 .293 .596
1988 Padres 24 5 9 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 0 1 2 0 2 .333 .333 .400 .733
1989 Padres 25 117 329 81 99 15 8 3 0.91 25 49 45 21 11 .301 .422 .391 .814
1990 Padres 26 149 556 104 172 36 3 9 1.62 44 55 65 46 12 .309 .433 .375 .809
1991 Padres 27 117 424 66 119 13 3 3 0.71 32 37 71 26 11 .281 .347 .342 .689
1992 Reds 28 147 532 92 172 34 6 4 0.75 45 62 54 44 16 .323 .432 .393 .826
1993 Reds 29 83 292 46 70 13 0 1 0.34 18 38 46 26 6 .240 .295 .330 .625
1994 Padres 30 105 403 52 129 15 5 2 0.50 31 39 57 21 7 .320 .397 .383 .780
1995 Padres 31 73 296 40 90 14 0 2 0.68 25 17 36 20 2 .304 .372 .346 .718
1996 Royals 32 90 339 39 96 21 2 0 0.00 52 25 38 12 9 .283 .357 .331 .688
1997 Royals 33 97 346 44 107 17 2 1 0.29 36 21 53 15 3 .309 .379 .348 .726
Indians 33 23 85 19 23 3 0 3 3.53 8 7 14 3 0 .271 .412 .333 .745
TOTALS 120 431 63 130 20 2 4 0.93 44 28 67 18 3 .302 .385 .345 .730
1998 Tigers 34 34 113 17 28 6 0 0 0.00 9 16 14 6 1 .248 .301 .351 .652
A's 34 61 182 28 51 11 0 1 0.55 15 15 24 10 3 .280 .357 .340 .697
TOTALS 95 295 45 79 17 0 1 0.34 24 31 38 16 4 .268 .336 .344 .680
TOTALS 1202 4147 663 1220 203 31 30 0.72 352 396 548 264 95 .294 .380 .358 .737
LG AVERAGE 4015 536 1069 197 26 107 2.67 504 399 679 97 44 .266 .408 .334 .742
POS AVERAGE 4028 558 1087 204 30 93 2.30 472 402 658 125 54 .270 .405 .338 .743

YEAR TEAM RC RCAA RCAP OWP RC/G TB EBH ISO SEC BPA IBB HBP SAC SF GIDP OUTS PA POS
1986 Padres 20 -12 -10 .298 2.74 73 8 .050 .166 .340 1 0 2 1 2 197 258 2B
1988 Padres 1 0 0 .414 3.38 3 0 .000 .111 .200 0 0 0 0 0 8 10 3B
1989 Padres 58 18 17 .661 6.21 139 26 .122 .334 .514 0 1 6 2 3 252 387 3B
1990 Padres 98 25 10 .624 6.36 241 48 .124 .306 .528 1 6 8 4 8 416 629 LF
1991 Padres 53 0 2 .495 4.35 147 19 .066 .215 .421 0 4 4 3 6 329 472 2B
1992 Reds 97 34 31 .683 6.75 230 44 .109 .308 .525 4 2 1 4 7 388 601 LF
1993 Reds 34 -8 -4 .402 3.94 86 14 .055 .274 .432 1 3 0 3 2 233 336 2B
1994 Padres 64 8 10 .557 5.92 160 22 .077 .226 .468 1 3 2 2 7 292 449 2B
1995 Padres 42 5 2 .558 5.37 110 16 .068 .193 .460 1 2 1 0 2 211 316 LF
1996 Royals 38 -16 -11 .340 3.86 121 23 .074 .183 .384 8 2 0 6 8 266 372 2B
1997 Royals 47 -3 -6 .462 5.04 131 20 .069 .173 .429 2 1 1 3 6 252 372 LF
Indians 13 1 2 .525 5.40 35 6 .141 .259 .479 0 2 0 2 1 65 96 2B
TOTALS 60 -2 -4 .475 5.11 166 26 .084 .190 .439 2 3 1 5 7 317 468
1998 Tigers 13 -4 -5 .368 3.90 34 6 .053 .248 .412 0 2 1 0 3 90 132 LF
A's 23 -1 0 .467 4.44 65 12 .077 .214 .425 0 2 1 1 4 140 201 2B
TOTALS 36 -5 -5 .428 4.23 99 18 .068 .227 .420 0 4 2 1 7 230 333
TOTALS 601 47 38 .532 5.17 1575 264 .086 .245 .459 19 30 27 31 59 3139 4631
LG AVERAGE 557 0 0 .500 4.79 1638 330 .142 .266 .454 41 29 28 36 85 3139 4507
POS AVERAGE 566 8 0 .500 4.87 1631 328 .135 .266 .457 35 32 30 35 79 3139 4527


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