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redsupport
01-20-2007, 03:15 PM
I was thinking, what red has never been mentiuoned on red zone, my choice
Derek Lilliquist, a fine portsider?

savafan
01-20-2007, 03:19 PM
Bob Meinke

writerdan33
01-20-2007, 03:54 PM
Mr. Red

Cedric
01-20-2007, 03:58 PM
Larry Luebbers

UKFlounder
01-20-2007, 04:06 PM
Scotti Madison

KronoRed
01-20-2007, 04:44 PM
Andy Larkin

Caseyfan21
01-20-2007, 04:46 PM
Tim Pugh

Fil3232
01-20-2007, 04:50 PM
Pat Watkins

Reverend Doo-Rag
01-20-2007, 04:51 PM
Sorry, I mentioned Tim Pugh when I asked why he was shuttled back and forth between the Reds and the Royals 5 times in 1 year.

May 10, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Kansas City Royals from the Cincinnati Reds.

July 8, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Cincinnati Reds from the Kansas City Royals.

July 12, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Kansas City Royals from the Cincinnati Reds.

August 15, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Cincinnati Reds from the Kansas City Royals.

savafan
01-20-2007, 04:55 PM
Andy Larkin

I think I created a thread about Andy Larkin once asking if he was the worst pitcher in MLB history or something. ;)

Always Red
01-20-2007, 04:56 PM
No one ever talks about Pinky Jorgensen any more.

Falls City Beer
01-20-2007, 05:16 PM
Eddie Priest

George Anderson
01-20-2007, 05:17 PM
Jeff Jones...Started RF on Opening Day 1983

marcshoe
01-20-2007, 05:18 PM
This is tough. Even Ted Uhlaender has been mentioned on four different threads.

Dom Heffner
01-20-2007, 05:18 PM
John Denny- did this guy really play for the Reds?

Edit: Okay, so I just did a search and I was really wrong.

How about....Bob Bailey?

westofyou
01-20-2007, 05:24 PM
Neil Fiala

BCubb2003
01-20-2007, 05:31 PM
If I told you, he'd been mentioned, wouldn't he?

RANDY IN INDY
01-20-2007, 05:49 PM
Darrell Osteen

redsupport
01-20-2007, 05:52 PM
Darrell Osteen is on my screen saver baseball card with :Lee May
Neil Fiala was mentioned along with the great Kelly Paris as the greatest double play combination ever
Ted Uhlaender should be reacquired by Krivsky since he used to play for Minnesota
Andy Larkin's nomination for worst pitcher ever would be in steep competition with Chris Bushing and Jeff Kaiser

redsupport
01-20-2007, 05:54 PM
Eddie Priest started against the Giants opn May 27, 1998 a big red victory ensued

jmac
01-20-2007, 05:59 PM
Christy Mathewson and Billy Martin......2 that we seldom associate with the reds though they had brief time with.

Handofdeath
01-20-2007, 06:00 PM
German Barranca

westofyou
01-20-2007, 06:02 PM
Neil Fiala was mentioned along with the great Kelly Paris as the greatest double play combination ever

Pretty nice accolades for a guy who never wore a glove in MLB game

UKFlounder
01-20-2007, 06:05 PM
Bill Scherrer

redsupport
01-20-2007, 06:11 PM
west of you, you are rarely wrong why do you say fiala or paris did not play in major league games, their performances were legendary

RedsBaron
01-20-2007, 06:12 PM
Dan Bickham is rarely mentioned for some reason.

savafan
01-20-2007, 06:22 PM
Pretty nice accolades for a guy who never wore a glove in MLB game

:laugh:

westofyou
01-20-2007, 06:27 PM
west of you, you are rarely wrong why do you say fiala or paris did not play in major league games, their performances were legendary

Neil just PH, he never made the field... alas he has won over 500 games as a College coach though... a hero to many I bet.

Tom Servo
01-20-2007, 06:29 PM
The great Ozzie Timmons

redlegs7089
01-20-2007, 06:41 PM
paul o neil

IowaRed
01-20-2007, 06:48 PM
Keefe Cato
Sheldon Burnside

Smokin Joe
01-20-2007, 07:26 PM
Ron Robinson, aka Beeker from the Muppet Show.

ThatPitchIsDunn
01-20-2007, 07:28 PM
What about Freddie Benavides?

redsupport
01-20-2007, 07:36 PM
Benavides with ruthlessly exposed to the ravages of the expansion draft, how jejune

Bob Borkowski
01-20-2007, 07:48 PM
Howie Judson

Yachtzee
01-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Chuck McElroy

redsupport
01-20-2007, 08:06 PM
ray ripplemeyer appeared in a topps card as a reds rookie in the early sixties but did not don the reds uniform during the regular season, if he had he might have become the next Dom Zanni

RANDY IN INDY
01-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Reggie Otero

Spitball
01-20-2007, 08:14 PM
Vida Blue

redsupport
01-20-2007, 08:14 PM
dave revering

George Anderson
01-20-2007, 08:20 PM
Vida Blue

Blue was never officially a Red was he??

mth123
01-20-2007, 08:22 PM
John Wetteland

Highlifeman21
01-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Rob Bell

Betterread
01-20-2007, 08:25 PM
Damian Jackson has never received the recognition he deserves. This may possibly suffice.

Keystone12
01-20-2007, 08:33 PM
John Roper

UKFlounder
01-20-2007, 08:41 PM
Candy Sierra appeared on a baseball card as a Red (87 Topps, I believe) but I'm not sure he every played for them. If so, add him to the list.

redsmetz
01-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Sorry, I mentioned Tim Pugh when I asked why he was shuttled back and forth between the Reds and the Royals 5 times in 1 year.

May 10, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Kansas City Royals from the Cincinnati Reds.

July 8, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Cincinnati Reds from the Kansas City Royals.

July 12, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Kansas City Royals from the Cincinnati Reds.

August 15, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Cincinnati Reds from the Kansas City Royals.

He was preparing for playing in the Ping Pong games at that year's Olympics.

Spitball
01-20-2007, 09:09 PM
Blue was never officially a Red was he??

Ahhh! That explains a lot! ;)

RedsBaron
01-20-2007, 09:13 PM
Angel Bravo.

marcshoe
01-20-2007, 09:13 PM
This is the second time Tony Tarrasco has been mentioned on this board, according to search. I saw him hit a game winning home run against the Phillies late September '98, I think.

marcshoe
01-20-2007, 09:18 PM
I may have an answer. Search finds no previous entries for Arturo DeFreitas or Vic Correll.


Am I bored this evening, or what?

savafan
01-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Candy Sierra appeared on a baseball card as a Red (87 Topps, I believe) but I'm not sure he every played for them. If so, add him to the list.

1989 Topps

Ulises (Pizarro) Sierra (born March 27, 1967, in Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico) was a Major League Baseball right-handed pitcher.

Signed by the San Diego Padres as an amateur free agent in 1983, Sierra would make his Major League Baseball debut with the San Diego Padres on April 6, 1988, and appear in his final game on June 10, 1988.

Sierra was notable for his role as a replacement player during Spring Training prior to the 1995 season. Replacement players took over for professional baseball players when the Major League Baseball Players Association went on strike. The strike was resolved at the end of Spring Training. Sierra would not return to Major League Baseball after the strike was resolved, and was blacklisted and not permitted membership in the Major League Baseball Players Association.

Falls City Beer
01-20-2007, 10:02 PM
Am I bored...?

Inspired.

redsupport
01-20-2007, 10:55 PM
He feels the force of erato or clio the muse of poetry, and only peotry could possibly describe the arc of the ball after the great andy kosko struck it

Patpacillosjock
01-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Bo Diaz was one of my all time favorites. As was Jeff Treadway, Kurt Stillwell, and John Franco. Rarely mentioned on here.

Cedric
01-20-2007, 11:40 PM
Ron Robinson, aka Beeker from the Muppet Show.

The true creature?

Cedric
01-20-2007, 11:40 PM
Chuck McElroy

And Chuck and duck? One of the nerdiest looking pitchers of our time. I'm sorry for being shallow.

TStuck
01-21-2007, 12:16 AM
While he never took the field for the Reds, he was involved in 2 key trades as the Big Red Machine was being built....

Vern Geishert

Acquired by the Reds from the Angels along with Pedro Borbon and Jim McGlothlin in 1969. Then sent with Frank Duffy to the Giants in '71 in exchange for a certain young slugger by the name of Foster.

savafan
01-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Then sent with Frank Duffy to the Giants in '71 in exchange for a certain young slugger by the name of Foster.

Steve?



;)

BEETTLEBUG
01-21-2007, 12:25 AM
NO GEORGE with his Black Whippin Stick FOSTER

Danny Serafini
01-21-2007, 12:50 AM
Jim Chamblee. I almost took that as a user name.

redsupport
01-21-2007, 01:08 AM
his buddy Marc Budzynski begs to differ since if you add their average up it still eqUALS .000

RedsBaron
01-21-2007, 07:59 AM
While perhaps not the most "unmentioned" Reds ever, I have been struck by how forgotten most members of the 1940 World Champion Reds are. They were once the toast of Cincinnati, but how well are most of them remembered now? In 2000, the Reds celebrated the 25th anniversary of the 1975 World Champions and the 10th anniversary of the 1990 World Champions, but made no mention of 2000 also being the 60th anniversary of the first Reds team to win an untainted World Series.
I assumed that all of the players on the 1940 team were now deceased. I knew that some of the better known stars of that team, including Ernie Lombardi, Bucky Walters, Frank McCormick and Paul Derringer (the first three were all NL MVPs) were dead.
When I looked up the 1940 team on Baseball-Reference.com, I was surprised to see that it listed Reds infielders Lonny Frey and Billy Werber as still being alive, ages 96 and 98 respectively. Frey was a three time all star second baseman and lead the NL in stolen bases in 1940. Werber, a third baseman, lead the NL in runs scored in 1939 and would lead the AL in stolen bases three times before joining the Reds.
Junior Thompson won 16 games for the Reds in 1940; this forgotten pitcher died last year.

RANDY IN INDY
01-21-2007, 08:07 AM
Geoff Combe

RANDY IN INDY
01-21-2007, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by RedsBaron:

When I looked up the 1940 team on Baseball-Reference.com, I was surprised to see that it listed Reds infielders Lonny Frey and Billy Werber as still being alive, ages 96 and 98 respectively.

Billy Werber lives not far from where I live here in South Charlotte, RedsBaron.

RedsBaron
01-21-2007, 08:37 AM
Billy Werber lives not far from where I live here in South Charlotte, RedsBaron.

Is he still in good health? I still think it would have been appropriate for the Reds to have recognized the 60th anniversary of the World Championship in 2000, even if the few surviving players were too infirm to attend ceremonies.

redsfan1966
01-21-2007, 09:51 AM
Wayne Krenchicki

RANDY IN INDY
01-21-2007, 10:08 AM
Is he still in good health? I still think it would have been appropriate for the Reds to have recognized the 60th anniversary of the World Championship in 2000, even if the few surviving players were too infirm to attend ceremonies.

I think he is still in reasonably good health. There was an article about him, recently, in the Charlotte Observer. I would love to meet him, and hear some stories about those teams he played on and its players. Deacon Bill, Derringer, Bucky Walters, Ernie "the Schnozz," McCormick, Myers, Goodman, Vander Meer. Those would have to be some great stories.

redsmetz
01-21-2007, 10:23 AM
In researching this I was going to say Don Werner and then saw Santo Alcala too and thought there's a forgotten battery.

Don Werner would still get my vote, but I was surprised to see Alcala only played two seasons in all and that we traded him to Montreal for Shane Rawley and Angel Torres. Rawley spent one season in the Reds minors before we traded him to Seattle for Dave Collins. I didn't know that.

redsmetz
01-21-2007, 10:33 AM
I think he is still in reasonably good health. There was an article about him, recently, in the Charlotte Observer. I would love to meet him, and hear some stories about those teams he played on and its players. Deacon Bill, Derringer, Bucky Walters, Ernie "the Schnozz," McCormick, Myers, Goodman, Vander Meer. Those would have to be some great stories.

He'll be 99 this year. He's most likely the oldest living Red at this point.

fadetoblack2880
01-21-2007, 10:41 AM
i used to dread the mention of chuck mcelroys name. he was awful. i don't miss him at all...

what about dann bilardello? for some reason, i own a card with with his autograph.

redsmetz
01-21-2007, 11:14 AM
i used to dread the mention of chuck mcelroys name. he was awful. i don't miss him at all...

what about dann bilardello? for some reason, i own a card with with his autograph.

I still remembering an at bat with Bilardello where he must have fouled off 17 pitches. I think he ended up getting hit, but he worked that pitcher to death.

RANDY IN INDY
01-21-2007, 11:15 AM
Stan Palys.

Yachtzee
01-21-2007, 11:24 AM
i used to dread the mention of chuck mcelroys name. he was awful. i don't miss him at all...

what about dann bilardello? for some reason, i own a card with with his autograph.

I was at a game where Dann Bilardello hit a home run. One of only 18 for his career.

How about Champ Summers? I once saw him and Stan Papi hit home runs, when they were with the Tigers.

Bob Borkowski
01-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Rocky Bridges

RANDY IN INDY
01-21-2007, 12:45 PM
Rocky Bridges

The man with the "chaw."

gm
01-21-2007, 08:35 PM
Dallas McKinley Williams

savafan
01-21-2007, 09:46 PM
Paul Noce
Keith Hughes

Yachtzee
01-21-2007, 11:50 PM
Ricky Bones (and probably for good reason).

redsupport
01-21-2007, 11:53 PM
dallas williams was i think 2-36 as a Red, he could really rake.
Glenn Sutko says hello as does the great Sonny Roberto

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 03:35 AM
Bob Henrich and Hector Cruz. Turk Lown and Greg Garrett.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 07:33 AM
brad pennington, and craig worthington

dabvu2498
01-22-2007, 08:31 AM
5 pages and still no Gino Minutelli reference. Shocking.

Roy Tucker
01-22-2007, 08:50 AM
The myopic Ryne Duren.

Moe Drabowsky because I like the name Moe.

Jaycint
01-22-2007, 08:55 AM
Neil Fiala

Who could forget the immortal #19?

Bob Borkowski
01-22-2007, 08:59 AM
Bubba Church

Heath
01-22-2007, 09:28 AM
Joe Edelen. (Boy that Doug Bair trade looks crappy)

And the incomperable Peter 'The Whiz' Whisenant.

alexad
01-22-2007, 11:50 AM
Jeff Jones...Started RF on Opening Day 1983


Jones was suppose to be a stud. He hit 40 homeruns the year before in AAA.

alexad
01-22-2007, 11:51 AM
Wayne Krenchicki

I loved that guy. Hated his mustache on his Orioles rookie card though.

alexad
01-22-2007, 11:55 AM
Ron Robinson, aka Beeker from the Muppet Show.

Ronnie came one pitch, one out from a perfect game/no hitter vs. the Expos in the late 80's. 1988 season.

alexad
01-22-2007, 11:58 AM
I was thinking Mike Lum, Larry Bittner, Carlos Martinez, The Great Harry Speilman, Charlie Puleo, Alex Treveno, Tim Belcher.

I think Dennis Lamp also played with the Reds.

We have a snow day, so I am going to have to pull out the cards and look through them. That will give me and the boys something to do for the rest of the afternoon.

alexad
01-22-2007, 11:59 AM
And how can be forget Clint Hurdle. He was suppose to be the next great outfielder in MLB. I think Paul Householder beat him out eventually for the spot or maybe it was Duane Walker.

westofyou
01-22-2007, 12:00 PM
Jones was suppose to be a stud. He hit 40 homeruns the year before in AAA.

Jeff Jones, a perfect example of an older player exceeding against younger competition.

Age 24 in A ball 1982, Cedar Rapids .301 BA 42 HR's/26 2bs/22 steals 91 BB/151 K's

In 1983 he came up and came to the plate 58 times, and he walked or k'd 43% of the time. But only hit 3 doubles out of his 10 hits. Never played MLB again.

westofyou
01-22-2007, 12:01 PM
And how can be forget Clint Hurdle. He was suppose to be the next great outfielder in MLB. I think Paul Householder beat him out eventually for the spot or maybe it was Duane Walker.

Hurdle was on the cover of SI as a Royals rookie, Householder was what Dick Wagner termed, "The most complete player I have ever seen."

alexad
01-22-2007, 12:03 PM
Jeff Jones, a perfect example of an older player exceeding against younger competition.

Age 24 in A ball 1982, Cedar Rapids .301 BA 42 HR's/26 2bs/22 steals 91 BB/151 K's

In 1983 he came up and came to the plate 58 times, and he walked or k'd 43% of the time. But only hit 3 doubles out of his 10 hits. Never played MLB again.


Yes A ball and not AAA. HOw could I forget that. I was excited about a 40 homerun guy playing for the Reds. If I remember right he had a pretty decent spring. But in 83 the Reds were a complete disaster. They were not expected to do anything. Ronnie O was all they really had. In fact in either 82 or 83 lead the team in RBI. That tells how bad this team was on offense.

alexad
01-22-2007, 12:04 PM
Hurdle was on the cover of SI as a Royals rookie, Householder was what Dick Wagner termed, "The most complete player I have ever seen."


I can not remember how the Reds got him, but he was a starter on opening day on year. I have that SI somewhere.

George Anderson
01-22-2007, 12:05 PM
Hurdle was on the cover of SI as a Royals rookie, Householder was what Dick Wagner termed, "The most complete player I have ever seen."

What a keen eye of talent Dick Wagner was!!!!:rolleyes:

alexad
01-22-2007, 12:07 PM
I think Walker and Jeff Russell were traded to the Rangers for Buddy Bell. Russell is another name. He came to Riverfront as a high schooler for some try out thing they always held and he actually ripped the cover off the baseball. The Reds looked at him as an outfielder, but he ended up pitching and was suppose to be a decent starter for the Reds. When he went to the Rangers, he closed for awhile. I actually got to meet him when the Rangers were in Cleveland. The game got rained out and we went to the hotel and met up with a bunch of the Rangers. We got Nolan Ryan to sign a few balls that night. I have to say Russell was a real jerk though.

alexad
01-22-2007, 12:09 PM
What a keen eye of talent Dick Wagner was!!!!:rolleyes:

What? How can you say that? Householder was the glue that kept this team together during those hard times. He had all the pressure to carry a terrible team. HE should be in the Reds HOF for what he had to do during the Wagner era.:help: :D

Johnny Footstool
01-22-2007, 12:09 PM
The alliterative Rolando Roomes rarely receives remembrance or reverance on RedsZone.

Former Reds ace Bill Gullickson gets a shockingly low amount of publicity.

Terry "I'm not the Crime Dog" McGriff is less than an afterthought.

Lloyd "I'm not Terry McGriff" McClendon is occasionally remembered for his base-throwing antics while at the helm of the Pirates, but tend towards amnesia regarding his career in the Queen City.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 12:41 PM
Does Brad Gulden get the veneration he deserves
I am very chagrined about the gaps in reverance for Joe Gaines
and Imight add where are the parades for the accomplishments of Jay Ward

goreds2
01-22-2007, 12:46 PM
Don Werner:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=wernedo01

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 12:54 PM
How about Ted Savage, or maybe Cliff Cook?

George Anderson
01-22-2007, 01:00 PM
What? How can you say that? Householder was the glue that kept this team together during those hard times. He had all the pressure to carry a terrible team. HE should be in the Reds HOF for what he had to do during the Wagner era.:help: :D

Whats funny is I remember a game program around 1982 that had the new era Big Red Machine on the cover. I recall Householder, Duane Walker, Eddie Milner,Tom Lawless and Dave Van Gorder on the cover. I remember thinking to myself I better save this cause this is going to be really valuable one day!!!!:laugh:

registerthis
01-22-2007, 01:11 PM
Wade Rowdon. I got about 20 gazillion of his '87 Topps cards.

http://www.baseballcardproject.com/Topps/R/1987/569.jpg

flyer85
01-22-2007, 01:13 PM
Junior Kennedy
Ben Hayes
Jay Tibbs
Brad "The Animal" Lesley
Mike O'Berry

dabvu2498
01-22-2007, 01:47 PM
Bob Sebra and Keefe Cato also come to mind.

westofyou
01-22-2007, 01:50 PM
Joe Price

savafan
01-22-2007, 01:58 PM
You don't see much mention about Jerome Walton, Carmelo Martinez, or Geronimo Berroa as Reds around her either.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 02:04 PM
do you think Mike Griffins feeling are hurt, or what about the nasty stuff of Don Nottebart, even Andy MacGaffigan and Randy Milligan merit consideration

lollipopcurve
01-22-2007, 02:44 PM
Clyde Wayne Mashore.

1 at bat for the Redlegs, an out.

And 1 run.

One might argue whether he did enough for the 1969 club. I'd say he did. He did enough. Thank you, Clyde Wayne Mashore.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 02:48 PM
his productivity exceeded that of mike grace

maniem
01-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Frank Viola had a brief stint with the Reds. And who could forget Luis Quinones?

westofyou
01-22-2007, 03:02 PM
Al Simmons 9 games as a Red fell to the wayside

westofyou
01-22-2007, 03:03 PM
Hardly any mention of Charlie Comiskey, Candy Cummings, Mike Kelly and Buck Ewing.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 03:08 PM
danny breedan

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 03:18 PM
What about Larry Stahl or his buddy, Jim Qualls.

George Anderson
01-22-2007, 03:21 PM
Skeeter Barnes

LINEDRIVER
01-22-2007, 04:57 PM
Roger Freed

westofyou
01-22-2007, 04:59 PM
Joe Tinker

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 05:19 PM
Eddie Pellagrini.

Number_Fourteen
01-22-2007, 05:23 PM
Joel Youngblood

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Eddie Pellagrini

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 05:31 PM
Or how about Frenchy Bordagaray?

westofyou
01-22-2007, 05:32 PM
White Wings Tebeau

Yachtzee
01-22-2007, 05:55 PM
A couple of football guys by the names of Greasy Neale and Jim Thorpe.

Yachtzee
01-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Have yourself a Steve Christmas.

westofyou
01-22-2007, 06:00 PM
A couple of football guys by the names of Greasy Neale and Jim Thorpe.

Chuck Dressen and Frank Baumholtz a NBL and BAA Pioneer

RANDY IN INDY
01-22-2007, 06:53 PM
Jo-Jo Morrissey

Heath
01-22-2007, 07:13 PM
Have yourself a Steve Christmas.

No thanks, I'd keep the receipt for a full return.

Wally Pipp & Carl Mays.

And Cuckoo Christiansen- quite possibly the sparkplug of the '26 Reds.

Danny Serafini
01-22-2007, 07:30 PM
Juan Cerros. I hear the Mexican League produces some pretty good pitchers.

Falls City Beer
01-22-2007, 07:36 PM
The thread that saved the offseason.

redsupport
01-22-2007, 08:02 PM
yes but look at my warning percentage,, stan swanson, al ferrera, bob schmidt and elio chacon are disgusted

BoydsOfSummer
01-22-2007, 08:04 PM
Seven pages and no mention of Topsy Hartsel. Hartsel's given name of Tully apparently wasn't silly enough. Topsy would be a good nickname for Sean Casey. "Topping" all those balls into 4-6 DP's.

Tony Cloninger
01-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Buddy Bradford.........the Reggie Taylor of the 70's......White Sox really liked him....kept him around forever. Stopped by Cincy in 1971 during the power outage the team had that year.

Arturo DeFrietas

Dan Dumolion

Rich Hinton

Camilo Pascual...Al Jackson.....Chris Short ...all in 1969...... Howsman's 2006 version of Krivsky......grabbing whatever arms were there to help push the Reds to the division.

chicoruiz
01-22-2007, 08:41 PM
Third-string catchers are the lifeblood of this thread.

Jesse Gonder...
Jim Coker...
Dutch Dotterer....

Heath
01-22-2007, 09:03 PM
Juan Cerros. I hear the Mexican League produces some pretty good pitchers.

Yep, so good they land in Japan.


:D

Yachtzee
01-22-2007, 09:26 PM
Steve "Rock of" Gibralter and Mark Portugal brought an Iberian flavor to the 1995/96 Reds.

mth123
01-22-2007, 09:42 PM
Gene Locklear

redsupport
01-22-2007, 09:51 PM
Locklear, a native american was an excellent aesthete, Do you ever wonder about the attributes of the great Marcus Moore., or the feats of derring-do achieved by Dewayne Henry. Do you think if given more opportunity, Dick Baney could have won the Cy Young ?

vaticanplum
01-22-2007, 10:57 PM
Do you ever wonder about the attributes of the great Marcus Moore., or the feats of derring-do achieved by Dewayne Henry.

Keeps me up at night, dude.

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 02:36 AM
Do you think if given more opportunity, Dick Baney could have won the Cy Young ?

No doubt about it.

RFS62
01-23-2007, 07:34 AM
Keeps me up at night, dude.



Yeah, same here. One of the great unanswered questions.

Roy Tucker
01-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Do you think if given more opportunity, Dick Baney could have won the Cy Young ?

Dick Baney's name always reminded me of Mel Famey.

http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news_story.jsp?article_id=mlb_20020218_WHYGban ey_news&team_id=mlb

Where have you gone, Dick Baney?

By Bill Peterson
Special to MLB.com

As often as baseball careers are measured by statistics, they just as often are not. Sometimes, they're characterized by episodes, little brushes of fame, maybe even one standout performance.

To look at Dick Baney's Major League record is to suppose he never pitched an important out. To understand that Baney, at 55, has been retired for ten years after a successful life of real estate and investment is to suppose that baseball meant little in his life.

But Baney still coaches Little League in Tustin, Calif., and he is immortalized in Jim Bouton's Ball Four as a young right-hander who barely missed making the Seattle Pilots in Spring Training and came up in July. And he pitched a pretty important game for the Reds on Sept. 25, 1973, a 2-1 victory over the San Diego Padres that clinched the old National League West for the Reds.

"I remember the Padres wearing those yellow and brown uniforms," Baney said, thinking back to that night. "I remember the standing ovation at the end of the game. I remember they wanted [Don] Gullett to pitch the game, and he had a sore arm. So they went to Jack Billingham, and they both had sore arms. So Sparky [Anderson] decided to give me a try."

And Baney said that in April 1974, he was the last man to pitch to Henry Aaron before Aaron hit his record-setting 715th home run on April 8. Aaron's Atlanta Braves opened the season with a series in Cincinnati, and Baney struck him out twice.

"He was so nervous, he was swinging at everything," Baney said.

It's funny how a career like Baney's crosses paths with a career like Hank Aaron's. While Aaron went on to Hall of Fame immortality, Baney went the way of a sore arm within a year.

Baney pitched only 42 games in the Major Leagues, beginning with the Pilots in 1969, their only year of existence. He won his only decision, then bounced around the Baltimore and Cincinnati organizations for the next three years. Finally, he resurfaced with the Reds in 1973, making 33 appearances, including two starts, over the next two seasons. Baney finished his career 4-1 with three saves and a 4.28 ERA in 90 innings.

"My happiest memory was the championship in 1973," Baney said. "My memories of baseball were my injuries, coming home after the season and having my mother pray for my arm, coming back from oblivion and pitching with the best team in baseball. That's probably my best memory."

By the end of the 1975 season, Baney knew his arm could no longer take it, so he needed to get on with his life. He went into real estate with his father, George, in the booming Southern California market.

"He built some of the major nightclubs and restaurants in Southern California," Baney said of his father. "He was into ice rinks. I helped him build some ice rinks and a golf course. Through him, there was life after baseball."

Baney said he enjoyed his time in Cincinnati and plans to visit again. He visited in 1996 and stayed in the home of then Reds manager Ray Knight.

But that's the closest he's been to the Major Leagues since 1974. In the meantime, he has enjoyed life and set himself up well.

"I didn't make a lot of money playing baseball," Baney said. "I hung around the minimum. There wasn't a lot of money at the time."

Bill Peterson is a contributor to MLB.com. This article was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs

George Anderson
01-23-2007, 09:15 AM
Rafael Santo Domingo

registerthis
01-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Billy Bates.

Although he did sink the Pirates.

Heath
01-23-2007, 09:21 AM
Nobody's said Bill Dawley yet. I'm disappointed. But then I forgot he got traded to Houston for Alan Knicely.

registerthis
01-23-2007, 09:53 AM
Wilton Guerrero and/or Donnie Sadler

redsupport
01-23-2007, 11:36 AM
Pedro Martinez pitched for the reds, look it up

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 11:54 AM
Orlando Pena

redsupport
01-23-2007, 12:20 PM
Jose Pena

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 01:33 PM
Ted Wieand

RichRed
01-23-2007, 01:44 PM
That rakish man-about-town, Bo Belinsky.

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 02:18 PM
Cactus Keck, 1922-23

RichRed
01-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Red Ruffing
Red Barber
Redd Foxx
Helen Reddy

westofyou
01-23-2007, 02:28 PM
Red Ruffing
Red Barber
Redd Foxx
Helen Reddy

Red Lucas

Yachtzee
01-23-2007, 02:48 PM
Red Lucas

Gary Red-us

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 02:49 PM
Mr. Red

redsupport
01-23-2007, 02:59 PM
Dan McGinn and Len Boehmer are hurt

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Dan Neville

RichRed
01-23-2007, 03:05 PM
Red Barron
Red Bird
Red Lutz (career stats: 1 double in 1 AB for the Reds in 1922)
Red Dawn

and Pete "Where the" Redfern "Grows"

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Do you think if given more opportunity, Dick Baney could have won the Cy Young ?

Do you think Dick Baney and Mel Behney could have been a formidable tandem for the Redlegs?

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 03:40 PM
Ty Cline was huge for the Reds in the 1970 playoffs against the Pirates.

redsupport
01-23-2007, 04:09 PM
bbut he messed up with that baltimore chop against baltimore

Heath
01-23-2007, 04:47 PM
bbut he messed up with that baltimore chop against baltimore

Wasn't his fault the Reds had no one to pitch. Lots of sore arms will do that to you.

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 05:30 PM
bbut he messed up with that baltimore chop against baltimore

No, Ken Burkhardt messed up.

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 05:32 PM
The duo of Jim Beauchamp and Fred Whitfield provoked fear in the minds of enemy hurlers.

RFS62
01-23-2007, 06:26 PM
No, Ken Burkhardt messed up.

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gm
01-23-2007, 06:50 PM
Last ex-Red's player mentioned in this thread wins the prize

RichRed
01-23-2007, 06:58 PM
William Henry "Whoop-La" White

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 07:23 PM
"Milkman" Jim Turner

Yachtzee
01-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Lee Grissom took the oars and did a lot of heavy rowing out of the bullpen in '37.

UKFlounder
01-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Bill Landrum & Kent Tekulve out of the bullpen

Manny Trillo (as a Red, anyway)

Marty Brown, Rosario Rodriguez & Mike Griffin (from 1989)

RANDY IN INDY
01-23-2007, 08:57 PM
Lee Grissom took the oars and did a lot of heavy rowing out of the bullpen in '37.

Alomg with fellow pitcher Gene Schott and legendary groundskeeper Matty Schwab.

redsmetz
01-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Alomg with fellow pitcher Gene Schott and legendary groundskeeper Matty Schwab.

And yet I couldn't find that famous picture on the web anywhere. Maybe I'll try Yahoo.

redsupport
01-23-2007, 09:22 PM
the tandem of steve pegeus and cecil espy with a tincture of gary varsho and jack daugherty was potent

redsupport
01-23-2007, 10:24 PM
here a few gems, including opal and quartz
the great willie smith hitter and pitcher
the puissant Terry Lee, would the 1990 champs have won without Terry Lee's efforts?
the Borbdinagian performance of Ed Crosby and Keith Kessinger
the unforgettable purloining of pitchers Mike McQueen and Pete Smith from Atlanta
Aaron Myette's exacting control of the strike zone
middle relieving stalwarts like Bill Short, Hank Fischer, Dennie Ribant and Bobby Locke
and the all time great Bobby Klaus

RANDY IN INDY
01-24-2007, 08:24 AM
Howie Nunn and Tom Acker were quite a pair as were Chuck Coles and Eddie Miksis.

registerthis
01-24-2007, 09:22 AM
"Luscious" Larry Bittner

redsupport
01-24-2007, 09:28 AM
curt lyons and jim dickson and steve cooke were undefeated reds

registerthis
01-24-2007, 09:32 AM
curt lyons and jim dickson and steve cooke were undefeated reds

Imposing specimens on the mound, all of them.

redsupport
01-24-2007, 12:32 PM
ray washburn was awestruck

Heath
01-24-2007, 01:11 PM
Nobody mentioned Jeff "Whitey" Richardson.

He got us Billy Hatcher.

Heath
01-24-2007, 01:12 PM
ray washburn was awestruck

so was Julian Javier - but 1964 and St. Louis seemed like a long time ago.

The 1970 Reds were looking for live arms...and got a few dead ones. Yet Bo Belinsky makes the team, but Milt Wilcox gets traded.

plus Roger Nelson was a key deal in 1973.

George Anderson
01-24-2007, 01:17 PM
Marc Bombard..... 1996 3rd base coach

Roy Tucker
01-24-2007, 02:19 PM
Sun-Woo Kim, Andy Abad, and Brandon Watson were 2006 Reds.

RFS62
01-24-2007, 02:24 PM
Sun-Woo Kim, Andy Abad, and Brandon Watson were 2006 Reds.


Wow. It takes some kind of talent to become forgettable that quickly.

gonelong
01-24-2007, 02:28 PM
What about that one guy ...?

Heath
01-24-2007, 02:28 PM
BTW -redsupport, Bo Belinsky got you Dennis Ribant, your favorite Red.

redsupport
01-24-2007, 03:17 PM
i think he is still in the penal system

redsupport
01-24-2007, 09:59 PM
Joe Henderson had a tricky delivery