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TeamSelig
01-29-2007, 12:02 PM
http://www.wsaz.com/hhsdreamteam/headlines/5380896.html

That page has the video to it. T'd up once for delay of game (held the ball as he walked up the court after a big dunk), and then the second time for staring at an opposing player (horrible call). Since when are you not allowed to stare at someone? Then he pleads his case to the referee, barely touches the ref, and the ref makes a HUGE flop. Weird... he is suspended 2 games for being ejected, and who knows what will happen for "knocking down" the referee....

what do you guys think? bad call and bad flop?

Yachtzee
01-29-2007, 12:09 PM
Guys just shouldn't touch refs, ever.

RedsBaron
01-29-2007, 12:33 PM
http://www.wsaz.com/hhsdreamteam/headlines/5380896.html



what do you guys think? bad call and bad flop?

Based upon the video, bad call, bad flop, bad ref. You can't hear what Mayo or anyone else said on the video, but it sure appears as if the referee had a chip on his shoulder and had decided to show Mayo who was "boss." Unless Mayo was cursing the opposing players while they were merely saying "You're the man, O.J., " I do not understand how Mayo got a second technical while nothing was called on the opposition.

forfreelin04
01-29-2007, 12:38 PM
Guys just shouldn't touch refs, ever.

Agreed, but it was obvious from the tape that the ref crossed paths with Mayo and then flopped. Now the initial bump could have been considered legit, but there were numerous other players brushing shoulders with referees too.

I'm not saying the referees were looking for an excuse to toss Mayo, but some refs are better then others. Umpires are the same way. Some of them love the attention. Theres one guy in the Ohio High School Circuit that calls pitches as loud as he can while telling the batter where the pitch actually was.

Instead of "strikkkkkkeeee one". It's "strikkkkkkkkkeeeeeeee that ball was on the inside corner right at the knee number 7." EVERY SINGLE TIME! Then when its a ball he doesnt say anything! Talk about distracting for players! He must have pictures of somebodys daughter.

savafan
01-29-2007, 12:44 PM
The ref basically dove to the ground when Mayo approached him, that was awful

RedFanAlways1966
01-29-2007, 12:47 PM
Not sure of what might have been said during the action between Mayo and the opposing team, but being a bigger man is always the best solution. If Mayo had ignored it and just outplayed them (which we know he can do), then the matter would have never gotten to the referee flop thing. If the others were talking smack, then point to the scoreboard or ignore it. Giving the staredown is asking for trouble and might be perceived as bad sportsmanship (which is probably why he got the T). Of course Mayo is a teenager and perhaps not being a man is the reason he chose the method of retaliation for whatever was said. I hope he learned a lesson and decides the best retaliation for smack is to beat the smack-talkers on the court.

That ref who flopped? That was a joke. But O.J. needs to also learn that you always show respect (or just walk away) to the zebras regardless of the call. There is never a flop if you do not come near the referee.

RedsManRick
01-29-2007, 12:52 PM
That's ridiculous. The Ref basically big leagued him. He should've been suspended for the ridiculous "foul" call and then the flop.

HumnHilghtFreel
01-29-2007, 01:19 PM
It didn't even look like Mayo touched the guy at all. After watching the video twice I also can't really see what he got T'ed up for either.

TeamSelig
01-29-2007, 01:22 PM
OJ & Patterson were in bad foul trouble the entire game even though they've never fouled out of a game this year.. hmm.. coincidence?

IowaRed
01-29-2007, 01:48 PM
based upon the video, I think he got what he deserved. He chose to hold the ball after his great play, he chose to stop and confront the other team, he even came back again and then went after the referee after the 2nd T. Flop or no flop, horrible calls or not, he needs to be ready to face adversity, react appropriately and face the consequences when he doesn't....there's more coming

Buckeye33
01-29-2007, 02:22 PM
The 1st T was legit obviously. The 2nd one was just that ref waiting to have any type of reason to toss Mayo. If you watch him throughout the whole video the ref who tosses him and then flops worse than Shane Battier never takes his eye off Mayo.

I think the funniest part is how Mayo's entourage comes storming on the court to escort him off. That was funny.

Roy Tucker
01-29-2007, 02:42 PM
Mayo has to acquire better maturity than all that garbage he did.

Holding the ball was dumb. After that T, he should have gone back to the bench and talked to his coach. The second T was the refs trying to keep a riot from breaking out. And then flop or no flop, he shouldn't have been within 50 ft. of that ref. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

I've got a neighbor hoops ref friend that did a couple NCH games and he said he's never seen poorer sports in all his life when NCH was blowing out yet another team.

Mayo wore out his welcome at NCH and Ohio HS basketball. Looks like he is well on his way in W Va.

RedsBaron
01-29-2007, 03:40 PM
I've got a neighbor hoops ref friend that did a couple NCH games and he said he's never seen poorer sports in all his life when NCH was blowing out yet another team.

Mayo wore out his welcome at NCH and Ohio HS basketball. Looks like he is well on his way in W Va.

With all respect, I've watched a few of the HHS games. I haven't observed the Highlander players being any worse sports than any other team that has blown out opponents.
Mayo certainly hasn't worn out his welcome in West Virginia; he may have in parts of Kanawha County, some of whose residents do not take kindly to not having the best of everything in the state.
By the way, I do not live in Cabell County, none of my family has ever attended Huntington High School, and I generally root against HHS in sports.

beb30
01-29-2007, 04:44 PM
It didn't even look like Mayo touched the guy at all. After watching the video twice I also can't really see what he got T'ed up for either.

I totally agree with both of your statements

RANDY IN INDY
01-29-2007, 04:57 PM
With all respect, I've watched a few of the HHS games. I haven't observed the Highlander players being any worse sports than any other team that has blown out opponents.
Mayo certainly hasn't worn out his welcome in West Virginia; he may have in parts of Kanawha County, some of whose residents do not take kindly to not having the best of everything in the state.
By the way, I do not live in Cabell County, none of my family has ever attended Huntington High School, and I generally root against HHS in sports.

Yeah, he lives "Out Wayne.";)

RedsBaron
01-29-2007, 05:35 PM
Yeah, he lives "Out Wayne.";)

Darn right.;)

RANDY IN INDY
01-29-2007, 06:03 PM
:beerme:

MrCinatit
01-29-2007, 07:26 PM
The ref looks like a major drama queen.

paintmered
01-29-2007, 08:08 PM
I totally agree with both of your statements

I completely agree with the first technical. In high school, if you hang on the rim, you get T'd. To me, what he did was no different - he was grandstanding.

I'm not sure he deserved the second one. Had he not hung around the refs, it wouldn't have mattered. Next time, head to the bench and let the coach take care of it from there.

It's rather sad that a high school kid already has a posse.

WVRed
01-29-2007, 08:16 PM
Unfortunately, I havent been able to see HHS this year. I was hoping to get tickets when they come here to Parkersburg next week, but I have to go for CPR training that night.:(

As far as the video goes, WSAZ is going nuts. I'm pretty sure that is all that has been shown all weekend. There were 44 fouls called in that game, 32 in the first half alone. For the most part, there was some home cooking in Kanawha County on Friday night.

OnBaseMachine
01-29-2007, 09:04 PM
That ref is a disgrace, he should never be allowed to referee a game again in his life.

George Foster
01-29-2007, 09:45 PM
That ref is a disgrace, he should never be allowed to referee a game again in his life.

Just another loser trying to make Sports Center. Heck I bet he sues Mayo for damages...(future earnings.)

Yachtzee
01-29-2007, 10:02 PM
Now that I've had a chance to watch the video, the ref does look like he learned how to take a dive from the school of Italian soccer. That being said, I still stand by my rule that you don't touch refs, ever. Mayo should have never come up on the ref. If you let guys come up on refs to argue calls, you allow players to get into a position where they can use their physical stature to intimidate the ref. In any other sport, if a guy so much as looks at a ref or umpire funny, it's enough to get the guy run. All through organized sports, my coaches always told me, never argue with the ump/ref. If you have a problem with a call, tell coach and let coach handle it. I just can't understand how organized basketball allows players to act like complete jerks and disrespect the refs when a call doesn't go their way.

Flopping or not, he shouldn't have come up to the ref. Now as far as the ref flopping, I think that whoever is responsible for sanctioning high school referees should look into his performance in this game and decide whether they want a guy who acts like that calling their games. But its a separate issue from Mayo's acts in my mind. Mayo shouldn't have been near the guy in the first place.

edabbs44
01-29-2007, 10:46 PM
The ref does look like he is a bit of a drama queen, but I think Mayo got what he deserved. That looked like it could have escalated quickly. He got T'ed, then circles a few guys, repeat.

Didn't I read something on here about a HS basketball in Ohio getting out of hand with arrests? I'm sure things like that were on the refs minds.

CougarQuest
01-29-2007, 11:41 PM
I couldn't see for sure, but it appeared that their feet got entangled by the way the ref went down.

RedsBaron
01-30-2007, 03:31 PM
Cabell County Circuit Judge Dan O'Hanlon has issued an injunction. Mayo and the other suspended HHS players will be taking the court tonight.

KGJR30
01-31-2007, 11:17 AM
For anyone that cares, Mayo and the Highlanders defeated Artesia 73-66 last night. The court injunction allows Mayo and the other players ejected to be eligible until a hearing on Feb. 9th.

Sweetstop
01-31-2007, 12:22 PM
For anyone that cares, Mayo and the Highlanders defeated Artesia 73-66 last night. The court injunction allows Mayo and the other players ejected to be eligible until a hearing on Feb. 9th.

Guess that means they'll get to play this weekend when they meet our Scott Co. Cardinals at Memorial Coliseum in Lex.

Red Leader
01-31-2007, 12:49 PM
Cabell County Circuit Judge Dan O'Hanlon has issued an injunction. Mayo and the other suspended HHS players will be taking the court tonight.

Well, that's one way to handle it....

traderumor
01-31-2007, 06:37 PM
Mayo looks like little more than an out of control thug in that scene. I hope that is the exception for him, but that certainly looks like a young man very, very full of himself.

RedsBaron
01-31-2007, 09:23 PM
Mayo looks like little more than an out of control thug in that scene. I hope that is the exception for him, but that certainly looks like a young man very, very full of himself.

Oh I expect Mayo is quite full of himself. Given the adulation he has received, I am not surprised. Frankly, all athletes probably receive too much deference and hero worship.

CrackerJack
01-31-2007, 09:47 PM
Mayo was out of line, ecspecially for HS basketball.

He might get away with that in college to an extent, but not in HS.

The ref may have overreacted with his slapstick routine, but you don't get the in face of a ref, ecspecially at the HS level.

I guess OJ's posse comes out to get him before his coach does?

Gotta love superjock HS sports these days.

Cedric
01-31-2007, 10:25 PM
Mayo was out of line, ecspecially for HS basketball.

He might get away with that in college to an extent, but not in HS.

The ref may have overreacted with his slapstick routine, but you don't get the in face of a ref, ecspecially at the HS level.

I guess OJ's posse comes out to get him before his coach does?

Gotta love superjock HS sports these days.

Yep, it's not really his fault though.

I can't even begin to imagine how I would have been with that kind of clout at that age. The kid owns everyone around him because they see nothing but $$

MWM
01-31-2007, 10:30 PM
I knew who OJ Mayo was when he was in the 8th grade. That's sad. So yeah, part of the problem comes from external sources. But he's got real problems with his ego and his character and I'm afraid his talent isn't going to be enough to overcome these things once he starts playing against the best of the best in the NBA. I hope he doesn't self-destruct.

edabbs44
01-31-2007, 10:35 PM
For anyone that cares, Mayo and the Highlanders defeated Artesia 73-66 last night. The court injunction allows Mayo and the other players ejected to be eligible until a hearing on Feb. 9th.

Then the hearing will be delayed and delayed again and again until about July.
At that time, Mayo will be suspended for 5 games.

Yachtzee
01-31-2007, 10:41 PM
Yep, it's not really his fault though.

I can't even begin to imagine how I would have been with that kind of clout at that age. The kid owns everyone around him because they see nothing but $$

Only a lad,
He really couldn't help it.
Only a lad,
He didn't want to do it.
Only a lad,
He's underprivileged and abused,
Perhaps a little bit confused.

Chip R
01-31-2007, 11:20 PM
I watched this and I don't think it was so bad. Yeah he should have been teed up for carrying the ball like that but the other one looked pretty bogus to me. And it looked like the ref either tripped or flopped. It also looked like O.J. was going to help the guy up after he hit the floor. It didn't seem like O.J. had bad intentions. A lot of times refs tee someone up they get a big surge of adreneline and they do something foolish like going to the wrong end of the floor to shoot the T. Or they call another T just because they don't want to look like they are losing control. These ref aren't pros. This is a part time job for them. They make mistakes too and are just as prone to overreact as anyone is when confronted. You also have to wonder if this was Joe Schmo instead of O.J. Mayo, would the ref reacted the way he did and would it be such a big deal?

That doesn't excuse what O.J. did but was that so heinous? After all, he was just following the example he's seen on TV from NBA and college players. I remember whenever Kareem had a foul called on him his eyes got wide and he'd kind of half bend over and hold out his hands like he was saying, "What did I do?" All the big time players did crap like that. I'm glad Stern has told the refs in the NBA not to put up with that crap anymore.

Guys have done worse than this and have had nothing happen to them. He didn't assault anyone. I didn't see any thuggish behavior exhibited. It just seems like quite a bit of overreaction to me.

RedsBaron
02-01-2007, 06:40 AM
The referee and the Huntington High coach have submitted rather conflicting written accounts as to what occurred.
The referee claimed that Mayo cursed him after intentionally knocking him down.
The coach claimed that the referee told him before the game that Mayo had better keep his mouth shut, yet the referee later initiated conversations with Mayo; the coach added that at one point when Mayo was telling his teammates to be careful about fouling the referee interrupted to tell Mayo that he was the one who had better watch it.
If the referee's account is accurate, Mayo should be suspended for the season. If the coach's account is accurate, the referee should never again officiate a game at any level. The problem is determining whether or not either account is accurate.

WVRed
02-02-2007, 06:10 AM
Mayo is suspended for four games effective after the Scott County game. This was handed down by the school and not the WVSSAC, who has agreed to drop their review as a result of the suspension.

Sweetstop
02-02-2007, 09:52 AM
Mayo is suspended for four games effective after the Scott County game. This was handed down by the school and not the WVSSAC, who has agreed to drop their review as a result of the suspension.


Wonder if that game will still be played tonight, as Scott Co. has a snow day today.

WVRed
02-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Wonder if that game will still be played tonight, as Scott Co. has a snow day today.

Depends on snow in Lexington I think. The game is being played at either Rupp or Memorial Coliseum.

OnBaseMachine
02-02-2007, 06:07 PM
I know a ton of people who went to that game and they all said the same thing...the opposing team started the whole mess, and Mayo didn't do anything wrong. His mouth was shut when the ref T'd him up. The ref was out to get Mayo and HHS, and IMO, he should never be allowed to ref a game again.

Sweetstop
02-02-2007, 07:10 PM
Depends on snow in Lexington I think. The game is being played at either Rupp or Memorial Coliseum.

I live in Scott Co. near Lexington. It IS being played at Memorial Coliseum. My son's going. On tv here.

WVRed
02-02-2007, 08:09 PM
http://www.wsaz.com/hhsdreamteam/misc/5529566.html

Live feed of the Scott Co Huntington High game.

The TV announcers even made reference to it being a flop.

MrCinatit
02-02-2007, 08:12 PM
Perhaps it is my imagination, but it seems that on-field sports officials are more and more attempting to grab attention for themselves, rather than simply umpiring and reffing the game.
Perhaps this is out of jealousy, want for attention, or whatnot, but it is yet another disturbing trend.

WVRed
02-02-2007, 08:20 PM
Perhaps it is my imagination, but it seems that on-field sports officials are more and more attempting to grab attention for themselves, rather than simply umpiring and reffing the game.
Perhaps this is out of jealousy, want for attention, or whatnot, but it is yet another disturbing trend.

Methinks once OJ gets his NBA contract, Mike Lazo will be the first in line for legal action.

WVRed
02-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Huntington High just suffered the first loss of the season, 72-68 against Scott County.

Think the Mayo hoopla has taken a toll?

RedsBaron
02-03-2007, 07:26 AM
Huntington High just suffered the first loss of the season, 72-68 against Scott County.

Think the Mayo hoopla has taken a toll?

Possibly, but it is hard to go undefeated. Mayo was quoted in this morning's Herald-Dispatch as follows:
"I told the guys you don't come to Kentucky and play the No. 1 team in the state and not bring your "A" game. They were poised and well-coached, and those boys played a real good game tonight. They were the better team tonight."

Sweetstop
02-03-2007, 08:41 AM
Possibly, but it is hard to go undefeated. Mayo was quoted in this morning's Herald-Dispatch as follows:
"I told the guys you don't come to Kentucky and play the No. 1 team in the state and not bring your "A" game. They were poised and well-coached, and those boys played a real good game tonight. They were the better team tonight."

:) :) :)

Go Cardinals!

WVRed
02-16-2007, 06:20 PM
Bumpdate.

Huntington High beat Scott Co last night 67-63 in the rematch at the Vet last night without OJ.

The big news is that Huntington will be playing Capital in the MSAC title game in Charleston on Monday night at 8 PM. This is also OJs first game back and ironically against the same team in the same venue.

RedsBaron
02-17-2007, 07:04 AM
Bumpdate.

Huntington High beat Scott Co last night 67-63 in the rematch at the Vet last night without OJ.

The big news is that Huntington will be playing Capital in the MSAC title game in Charleston on Monday night at 8 PM. This is also OJs first game back and ironically against the same team in the same venue.

I wonder if the game will have the same referees.

RedFanAlways1966
02-17-2007, 03:23 PM
I wonder if the game will have the same referees.

I'll bet one referee is "falling all over himself" to officiate the game!