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hebroncougar
02-24-2007, 03:52 PM
John Fay mentions it in his online blog today..........that Bailey would make a good closer. I've thought about that all winter, why not? It would be a good way to get him to the bigs (ala Papelbon), and it would fill a large need for the Reds.

mth123
02-24-2007, 03:56 PM
If the Reds were close to winning it might be a risk to think about. Given the rest of the team, I see no reason to risk his arm or development. He needs to stretch his innings out to up past 160 this year. Closing will retard his development at 21. Papelbon was older and more past the injury nexus when he did it.

RedLegSuperStar
02-24-2007, 03:59 PM
He's been a starter.. until he proves he can't start why screw with his stamina?

Redmachine2003
02-24-2007, 04:11 PM
Sure take the best starting pitcher the Reds have come through the Minors in Decades and turn him into a closer. No thanks.

StillFunkyB
02-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Would be the dumbest move ever.

Well, at least one of them.

geniusMoment
02-24-2007, 04:16 PM
As a general rule I don't read anything by Fay, due to his complete and total lack of knowledge about sports.

jojo
02-24-2007, 04:25 PM
To me, he wouldn't be a good closer for the same reason they would keep him in Louisville as a starter....concerns about his command of the off speed stuff.

Barbarossa
02-24-2007, 04:40 PM
Sure take the best starting pitcher the Reds have come through the Minors in Decades and turn him into a closer. No thanks.


Well said. I agree. Homer has the potential to be a number one or great number two starter. You don't jeopardize that for a year in the pen. The Reds are probably shooting for '08 anyway, why take a chance?:beerme:

Redsbacker
02-24-2007, 04:46 PM
I remember Narron addressing this at the Reds Caravan and his response was Bailey was drafted as a starter, has been a starter his entire career, and they have no plans whatsoever to use him as anything but a starter.

Personally, I hope Coffey gets another shot at the job, I think he's an intense ballplayer and has the stuff to do it. He's adding a new pitch this spring (I think a change-up but not sure) and I've been a fan of his ever since that big strikeout of Edmonds in St. Louis back in April to preserve Harang's 1-0 win over Chris Carpenter.

jojo
02-24-2007, 04:53 PM
I remember Narron addressing this at the Reds Caravan and his response was Bailey was drafted as a starter, has been a starter his entire career, and they have no plans whatsoever to use him as anything but a starter.

Personally, I hope Coffey gets another shot at the job, I think he's an intense ballplayer and has the stuff to do it. He's adding a new pitch this spring (I think a change-up but not sure) and I've been a fan of his ever since that big strikeout of Edmonds in St. Louis back in April to preserve Harang's 1-0 win over Chris Carpenter.


Doesn't everyone add a changeup in the spring? :D

BEETTLEBUG
02-24-2007, 04:59 PM
No !!!!!!! Bailey Is Not Closer. If He Makes Team Out Of Spring He Should Be Number 2 Between Harang & Arroyo No Lower .

Redsbacker
02-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Doesn't everyone add a changeup in the spring? :D

I dunno, if I ever meet Brian Shackleford or Matt Belisle I'll ask them:thumbup:

Yachtzee
02-24-2007, 05:12 PM
Isn't the rule of thumb to give starters a shot at closer after they fail as a starter? I'd rather not relive the whole Danny Graves closer-starter-closer fiasco.

Bigredfan#1
02-24-2007, 05:36 PM
Bailey could close and probably would be very successfull at it, would not have to use more than his curve and fastball. I do not think it is a good idea though, although I think we need a closer that can throw the heat! Don't think the Reds would even consider it!

reds1869
02-24-2007, 07:17 PM
No way, no how. Moving a starter to the pen has been disastrous with prospects in the past. The Reds might see some short term benefit, but in the long run relievers are a dime a dozen and fade quickly; solid starters are harder to come by.

membengal
02-24-2007, 07:30 PM
This comes up because Papelbon spent the year closing in Boston last year, I suppose...

lo ryder
02-24-2007, 11:03 PM
I truly believe in 12 years you may be on to something. Until then, let the young mans youth and talent take him to the top.

919191
02-25-2007, 02:03 AM
John Fay has no say in anything anyway yesterday or today.

RANDY IN INDY
02-25-2007, 09:55 AM
:bang: NOooooo.

blumj
02-25-2007, 10:13 AM
This comes up because Papelbon spent the year closing in Boston last year, I suppose...
He spent MOST of the year closing in Boston. This SHOULD NOT come up exactly because of how Papelbon finished last year in Boston, not pitching at all because of a right shoulder subluxation. Which is also the primary reason that Papelbon will no longer be closing in Boston. And he had 4 years of physical maturity over Bailey and far less value and it still turned out to be the wrong move in hindsight.

Degenerate39
02-25-2007, 10:34 AM
We need another starter more than we need another possible closer.

dougdirt
02-25-2007, 11:26 AM
Valuable starter > valuable closer

BigRed
02-25-2007, 11:28 AM
I agree totally. No way do you do this. He either starts in Cincinnati or Louisville.

Eric_Davis
02-25-2007, 10:17 PM
If the Reds were close to winning it might be a risk to think about. Given the rest of the team, I see no reason to risk his arm or development. He needs to stretch his innings out to up past 160 this year. Closing will retard his development at 21. Papelbon was older and more past the injury nexus when he did it.

Enough said. Close this thread.