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HumnHilghtFreel
03-01-2007, 12:50 PM
Which of these records is most likely to stand the test of time?

Redsland
03-01-2007, 12:57 PM
Cy Young's 511 wins.

George Anderson
03-01-2007, 12:58 PM
Cy Young's 511 wins.

I second that.

HumnHilghtFreel
03-01-2007, 01:00 PM
Cy Young's 511 wins.

I was actually considering putting a *don't vote for Cy Young* disclaimer, as I think it's a given with the landscape of the game that one is untouchable.

Redsland
03-01-2007, 01:02 PM
Too late. :mooner:

RedsBaron
03-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Will White's 75 complete games while pitching for Cincinnati in the 1879 season looks like a fairly safe record to me. He won 43 games that season as well-just ask RFS62, who I believe was in attendance for most of them.
Note--I believe the "RFS62" stands for "Reds Fan Since 1862"; I know, I know, the Reds were formed as an all professional team in 1869, but cut the guy some slack.

Dom Heffner
03-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Hopefully Bonds gets indicted and he has to quit 21 homeruns into the season and that record becomes the hardest to break.

If he does get it, then I'm really going to become an A-Rod fan, I tell ya. He needs to hit 50 a year for the next decade.

Dom Heffner
03-01-2007, 01:55 PM
I say Ripken's streak will never be broken, for the simple fact that it isn't necessary to play every single game for 20 years.

Red Leader
03-01-2007, 01:56 PM
If I didn't read the first couple of posts on this thread first, I would have voted "other" and voted for Cy Young. As is, I'm going with Gretzky. That's second in line of the "untouchable" list for me.

SunDeck
03-01-2007, 02:36 PM
Byron Nelson's 11 majors in a row.

Johnny Footstool
03-01-2007, 03:47 PM
I say Ripken's streak will never be broken, for the simple fact that it isn't necessary to play every single game for 20 years.

That, and the fact that luck played a huge part in Ripken's streak.

registerthis
03-01-2007, 04:02 PM
That, and the fact that luck played a huge part in Ripken's streak.

Yep. You hardly see players playing a full 162 games...you'll never again see one who does it for 20 straight years, or whatever it was.

Highlifeman21
03-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Byron Nelson's 11 majors in a row.

Wasn't Majors, was just 11 PGA Sanctioned events in a row.

Highlifeman21
03-01-2007, 04:41 PM
Other

37 Combined 1st and 2nd place finishes in Majors, held by J. Nicklaus

SunDeck
03-01-2007, 05:03 PM
Wasn't Majors, was just 11 PGA Sanctioned events in a row.
Whoops, thanks for the update Highlifeman. Now, can you help me with my swing, too?

Anyway, I still think it can't be touched even if it isn't majors. Heck, Tiger got just over half way there and it was a big deal.

I think the Nicklaus record, while also untouchable is almost a little too esoteric. It just doesn't have the jaw dropping inprobability for the casual fan that, say, 56 games in a row does.

durl
03-01-2007, 05:10 PM
Of those made available, I went with Wilt. Given the state of the NBA these days, I just can't see a single player scoring 100 points in a game. Has anyone even come within 30 points? I'm not an NBA fan so I don't know.

HumnHilghtFreel
03-01-2007, 05:19 PM
Of those made available, I went with Wilt. Given the state of the NBA these days, I just can't see a single player scoring 100 points in a game. Has anyone even come within 30 points? I'm not an NBA fan so I don't know.

Kobe Bryant scored 81 last year

15fan
03-01-2007, 05:30 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/SO_p_career.shtml

Randy Johnson (42) and Roger Clemens (43) are still over 1,000 strikeouts behind Nolan Ryan.

Pedro is 34 years old with 2,998 career Ks. Even if he averages 250 Ks / year (something he's only done in 4 of his 15 ML seasons) for the next decade, he'll still be short of the mark. Smoltz & Mussina have decent shots at cracking 3,000 Ks. That's just a little more than 1/2 of what Ryan has.

Jason Schmidt leads the under 35 crowd with 1,728 Ks at age 33. Javier Vasquez leads the under 30 crowd with 1,602 Ks at age 29. They'd each have to keep up their current pace for another 20 years to get within shouting distance.

1972-1974, Nolan Ryan threw 942 & 2/3 innings and piled up 1,079 Ks.

Ryan's record is so far out of reach that it isn't even funny.

reds1869
03-01-2007, 05:30 PM
If I didn't read the first couple of posts on this thread first, I would have voted "other" and voted for Cy Young. As is, I'm going with Gretzky. That's second in line of the "untouchable" list for me.

Have you seen Sidney Crosby play? If he stays healthy he can do it. 97 points in 56 games this season at such a young age!

UKFlounder
03-01-2007, 07:23 PM
I doubt anybody throws more than 2 consecutive no-hitters in a row (and will be shocked if anybody even matches it).

Farney
03-01-2007, 07:40 PM
Cy Young's 511 wins.

Even more impossible is Cy Youngs record 316 losses. A pitcher would have to lose 20 games every season for 16 years to break that record!

Grounds_Crew
03-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Maybe not the most unlikely to get broken, but very doubtful:

Chicago Bulls 72-10

Degenerate39
03-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Why isn't Pete's record up there?

Chip R
03-01-2007, 08:57 PM
Maybe not the most unlikely to get broken, but very doubtful:

Chicago Bulls 72-10


I could see that getting broke. But how about this one: Georgia Tech over Cumberland 222-0.

westofyou
03-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Have you seen Sidney Crosby play? If he stays healthy he can do it. 97 points in 56 games this season at such a young age!

Nah... almost a 1000 points separate The great one from Messier... that's the telling part, plus he had all those assists feeding Messier, the NHL will increase scoring, chances are good it will never be the way it was in the 80's again. Goalies are better and the defense is faster.

KronoRed
03-01-2007, 09:09 PM
I could see that getting broke. But how about this one: Georgia Tech over Cumberland 222-0.

Only if D1 teams are allowed to play D3 guys.

vaticanplum
03-01-2007, 09:14 PM
Another one just to throw into the mix: Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs. A heck of a lot of things would have to fall into place for that to happen.

bomarl1969
03-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Why isn't Pete's record up there?

Because there are posters on here that don't like Pete and they actually consider themselves Reds fans.:rolleyes:

AS for me, Pete Rose's 4,256 hits will stand the test of time.

RedsBaron
03-01-2007, 10:22 PM
Even more impossible is Cy Youngs record 316 losses. A pitcher would have to lose 20 games every season for 16 years to break that record!

Actually Nolan Ryan came pretty close, racking up 292 losses. Phil Neikro made it to 274.

NastyBoy
03-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Maybe not the most unlikely to get broken, but very doubtful:

Chicago Bulls 72-10

You haven't see Dallas play this year, have you?

They started the season 0-4 and have gone 49-5 since. They may lose one more game all season.

redsrule2500
03-03-2007, 12:02 AM
Cal Ripken's for sure.

redsfan30
03-03-2007, 12:45 AM
No doubt it's Cal Ripken's record. With the salaries the way they are today, if a player sprains a finger he's out for 2 weeks. I don't think anyone will come within 500 games of his record...if that.

OldRightHander
03-03-2007, 10:42 AM
Ed Walsh, 227 assists by a pitcher in 1907. The game has changed way too much to ever see a pitcher record that many assists in a season again.

westofyou
03-03-2007, 10:44 AM
No doubt it's Cal Ripken's record. With the salaries the way they are today, if a player sprains a finger he's out for 2 weeks. I don't think anyone will come within 500 games of his record...if that.
I heard the exact same line about Gehrig when I was growing up.