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creek14
03-06-2007, 10:44 AM
First there were the jerks teaching the toddlers to smoke pot, now this.


Police say father told toddler, 'Now you stab Mommy'


BRIDGEPORT, Connecticut (AP) -- Police say a man repeatedly stabbed his teenage wife, then gave the knife to his toddler son and told him: "Now you stab Mommy."

Fermin Rodriguez, 21, attacked his 17-year-old wife Sunday night, after accusing her of cheating on him, police said. He slashed and stabbed her multiple times, then handed the knife to his 2-year-old son and told him to stab her, police said.

Police would not say whether the boy did as his father said.

Rodriguez was charged with first-degree assault, first-degree reckless endangerment, first-degree unlawful restraint and threatening. He was being held on $350,000 bond.

His wife, Keyschla Rodriguez, was taken to a hospital for treatment of stab wounds to her chest, face, arms and legs. Her condition was unavailable Tuesday morning.

Highlifeman21
03-06-2007, 11:02 AM
17 year old wife with a 2 year old...

That almost concerns me as much as the 21 year old husband attacking her with a knife and then telling the son to "stab mommy"

Roy Tucker
03-06-2007, 11:18 AM
What is wrong with people?

How much time do you have? It will take a while.

Cedric
03-06-2007, 11:25 AM
Always been crazy people. Technology just let's us know it a little more now.

Sea Ray
03-06-2007, 11:35 AM
With all the cable/internet news nowadays, we hear about this kind of stuff. Ten years ago we didn't have the Nancy Grace or Greta Vansusteren Show. This is the kind of stuff they love to report.

Families that begin with teenage Moms combined with an uneducated household is a disaster waiting to happen. Obviously the 17 year old is not educated and I bet the 21 year old is lacking as well.

Ltlabner
03-06-2007, 11:41 AM
Families that begin with teenage Moms combined with an uneducated household is a disaster waiting to happen. Obviously the 17 year old is not educated and I bet the 21 year old is lacking as well.

How much education does it require for someone to figure out stabbing mommy ain't a great 'conflict resolution'?

And how many schools offer, "don't stab your wife" classes anyway?

Sea Ray
03-06-2007, 11:48 AM
How much education does it require for someone to figure out stabbing mommy ain't a great 'conflict resolution'?

And how many schools offer, "don't stab your wife" classes anyway?

...or don't teach toddlers how to smoke pot. Great points.

Goes to show there's more to education than the Arts and Sciences.

Yachtzee
03-06-2007, 02:02 PM
Man, it's bad enough you have to teach people "Don't whiz on the electric fence."

Roy Tucker
03-06-2007, 02:51 PM
With all the cable/internet news nowadays, we hear about this kind of stuff. Ten years ago we didn't have the Nancy Grace or Greta Vansusteren Show. This is the kind of stuff they love to report.



I made this same comment to my wife the other day. This stuff has always gone on. We just didn't hear about it as much.

Whether it is good or bad that we know is debatable. Awareness begets prevention which is always a good thing. But the lurid newsporn that gets reported gets a little sickening.

texasdave
03-06-2007, 03:00 PM
With all the cable/internet news nowadays, we hear about this kind of stuff. Ten years ago we didn't have the Nancy Grace or Greta Vansusteren Show. This is the kind of stuff they love to report.

Families that begin with teenage Moms combined with an uneducated household is a disaster waiting to happen. Obviously the 17 year old is not educated and I bet the 21 year old is lacking as well.

Additionally, ten years ago everyone and their brother didn't have a phone that could take pics or videos. It used to be someone saw something and it was their word against whomevers. Now, more than ever, we see it in on film.

zombie-a-go-go
03-06-2007, 03:16 PM
...and more!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/06/babyas.weapon.ap/index.html


Mom pleads guilty to using baby as a weapon

ERIE, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A woman pleaded guilty Tuesday to swinging her 4-week-old son like a bat to hit her boyfriend during a fight, fracturing the infant's skull in the process.

Chytoria Graham, 27, pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and endangering the welfare of a child under a plea agreement with prosecutors.

By pleading guilty, Graham acknowledged that on October 8 she grabbed her son Jarron by his feet and swung him, hitting her boyfriend and seriously injuring the child.

At Graham's preliminary hearing in December, paramedic Betty Schau, who treated the baby, recalled that Graham was crying and disheveled when medical crews arrived. She testified that Graham told her, "I swung him. I swung him like a bat."

The judge ordered a psychological examination for Graham before her sentencing, set for May 8. The charges carry a minimum of five years in prison because the child was under age 12. Two lesser charges were dropped.

Graham's previous attorney had said Graham did not use her child as a weapon, that the boy was hurt during a fight between the two adults and that Graham lied to authorities about how the injury occurred to protect her boyfriend.

Her current attorney, public defender Julia Dudics, however, said Tuesday that the choice to plead guilty was Graham's. Dudics declined further comment except to say that Graham had told her she was depressed.

Jarron, who made a full recovery, and Graham's four other children are currently in the custody of her parents.

NatiRedGals
03-06-2007, 10:03 PM
Mom pleads guilty to using baby as a weapon

ERIE, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A woman pleaded guilty Tuesday to swinging her 4-week-old son like a bat to hit her boyfriend during a fight, fracturing the infant's skull in the process.


And thats how you hit a home run honey juss make sure your always wearing your baseball helmet

GAC
03-07-2007, 10:24 AM
We've been following this story for the last several days here in Bellefontaine. People are simply appalled. It's pretty much been the headlines here since late last week. I wish I could post a picture of this scumbag, as well his girlfriend. They are a work-of-art.

What bother me is that this guy has a history of physical abuse, as well as animal cruelty charges, going back to his first marriage. And the authorities have done nothing but wag their finger at this guy.

Well.... he has finally accomplished something. He beat his 11 month old son till he is brain damaged. I wish I could find earlier articles on this when it broke; but it was reported by the medical examiners that this little boy was beat on every inch of his body including the bottoms of his feet. The father said he was trying to "toughen him up".

He says he loves his kids and asked the court when he could see them again. The judge said that neither he nor the mother, as long as he is alive, will ever see those children again. All of them have been physically abused and traumatized.

http://www.examiner.org/news03.01.1.php

Infant's brain seriously damaged in beating

Father held on $100,000 bond, mother $50,000
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By Joel E. Mast
Bellefontaine Examiner Staff Writer
03/01/07

Dana Robinson, an 11-month-old Bellefontaine boy nearly beaten to death this week, most likely will survive, doctors told Logan County Children’s Services officials, but with severe disabilities.

“That’s what they’re telling us right now,” LCCS Executive Director John Holtkamp said today.

“It appears that his life potential has been stolen from him. There are signs he has sustained serious brain damage.”

The LCCS is now the guardian for Dana and will make medical decisions on his behalf.

Tuesday, Logan County Family Court Judge Michael Brady took parental rights from Dana’s parents, Michael B. Robinson, 43, and Sue A. Hutchins, 35.

The couple appeared today before Bellefontaine Municipal Court Judge John Ross, who imposed a $50,000 bond on Ms. Hutchins and a $100,000 bond on Mr. Robinson.

Ms. Hutchins is charged with permitting child abuse, a third-degree felony, and she will be represented by Ed Dougherty.

Mr. Robinson is now charged with felonious assault, a second-degree felony; endangering children, a second- degree felony; and domestic violence, a fourthdegree felony. He will be represented by Dan LaRoche.

Both will have another hearing at 9:45 a.m. Friday.

Mr. Holtkamp said his agency is looking hard at its interaction with the family over a two-year period ending in December.

“We have to look at what we did and what we should’ve done so this doesn’t happen the next time,” he said. “This is not the only family like this in the county.”

The LCCS’s involvement with the family was related to the 2005 criminal case.

Ms. Hutchins and Mr. Robinson were convicted of endangering after Dana’s older brother, Draven, now 2, sustained three fractures to one of his legs. The injuries were found Dec. 25, 2004, less than a month after Draven’s birth.

Mr. Holtkamp said the agency received a complaint about three weeks ago that the children were dirty and smelled bad, but that is not enough under state law to start a new child protection case, he said.

There were no reports of abuse to Dana prior to Monday when he was found unconscious and not breathing.

Mr. Holtkamp reported Dana continues to require mechanical assistance to breathe.

Mr. Robinson’s three sons, ages 12, 10, and 8, are living with an uncle. Mr. Robinson and Ms. Hutchins have been ordered to have no contact with any of the boys. Ms. Hutchins’ two daughters currently are with relatives and recently had not been part of their mother’s household.

Baby Fighting to Survive Injuries: Jailed Parents of 11-Month-Old Boy Have History of Problems Caring for Children, Authorities Say

From: The Columbus Dispatch, Ohio | Date: 2/28/2007

Feb. 28--BELLEFONTAINE, Ohio -- A baby lay tethered to life-supporting tubes and hoses in Children's Hospital. His father sat in jail, accused of beating him.

And as 11-month-old Dana Robinson struggled to breathe yesterday, police arrested his mother, too.

Parents Michael B. Robinson and Sue Hutchins were in the Logan County jail yesterday, and Dana became a ward of the county.

Six other children -- three sons of Robinson's, two daughters of Hutchins' and another son they have together -- were taken into protective custody Monday. All have been placed with relatives or foster families.

John Holtkamp, director of Logan County Children's Services, said his office opened a case with the couple more than two years ago, but it was closed in December "because the mother had made significant improvement."

The couple did not live together, but police said Dana had spent Sunday night at his father's house on the south side of Bellefontaine, 40 miles northwest of Columbus.

A civil-protection order had been in place preventing Robinson from spending time with Dana, his 2-year-old brother and Hutchins' two girls from a previous relationship. But Hutchins asked to have herself and the boys removed from that order, and the court approved the change in August.

This latest incident unfolded Monday when Robinson, 43, called 911 just before 7:30 a.m. and said his son wasn't breathing.

"Has he been sick?" a dispatcher asked.

"Yes ... he's been sick," Robinson said. "He fell one day and hit his mouth on a table because he's trying to walk. Please hurry."

An emergency squad took Dana to Bellefontaine's Mary Rutan Hospital, and doctors there summoned police.

Police Lt. Ron Birt said Dana "had multiple bruises in multiple areas from what was apparent and obvious abuse."

Dana was flown to Children's Hospital and put on a ventilator. But Holtkamp said neurologists reported some activity in the baby's brain and called it "an encouraging sign." A hospital spokeswoman said Dana was in critical condition.

As long as Dana is in the county's custody, medical decisions will be the responsibility of Children's Services.

"Should it come to that, the court would get involved, a team of professionals would get involved and we would undertake that grim task together," Holtkamp said.

The boy's mother likely won't play much of a role. Hutchins, 35, appeared at the Logan County jail yesterday to attend the emergency-care hearing for Dana and was arrested on a probation violation.

Both she and Robinson had been charged in 2005 with child endangering in a case that began on Christmas Day 2004. That's when Children's Services workers were notified that Dana's older brother, Draven Robinson, who was just 1 month old at the time, had a broken leg. Draven was placed in foster care but later reunited with his mother.

While that investigation was under way, the couple had a run-in with police in March 2005 concerning the possible abuse of Hutchins' two daughters from a previous relationship.

According to police reports, the 7-year-old girl had bruises on her face, elbow, leg and back. When a caseworker visited the house, it was found that someone had used heavy makeup to try to conceal the marks.

In interviews with detectives at that time, Robinson admitted that he had spanked the girl and gave her "horse bites" when they were joking around but said he didn't see why it was a big deal.

At yesterday's custody hearing, Holtkamp said, Robinson said things are being blown out of proportion, and he told the court: "I never said I was a perfect dad. But I'm good enough."

GAC
03-08-2007, 08:07 AM
Here's an update on this story in Bellefontaine...

Officer: Father beat child to 'toughen him up'
Michael Robinson's bond raised to $250,000


MICHAEL ROBINSON

http://www.examiner.org/images/nphoto03.07.1.jpg

By Joel E. Mast
Bellefontaine Examiner Staff Writer
03/07/07

A Bellefontaine man accused of beating his 11-month-old son into a coma told investigators he would regularly backhand the infant and pinch him to “toughen him up,” Bellefontaine Police Officer Blake Kenner testified Tuesday before Bellefontaine Municipal Court Judge John Ross.

Officer Kenner’s testimony and five photographs of Dana Robinson taken at Mary Rutan Hospital’s emergency department convinced Judge Ross that there is evidence to continue the case against the boy’s father, Michael Robinson, in the Logan County Common Pleas Court.

Mr. Robinson, 43, has been charged with felonious assault, a second-degree felony; endangering children, a second-degree felony; and domestic violence, a fourth-degree felony.

“I found the testimony today chilling,” Judge Ross told the defendant, “especially that you intended to inflict pain to toughen him up.”

Judge Ross said he believes the defendant is a significant risk to others and increased Mr. Robinson’s bond from $100,000 to $250,000.

Dana was hospitalized Feb. 26 after the child stopped breathing and he remains in stable but critical condition at Children’s Hospital in Columbus.

Officer Kenner said he was called to the hospital and observed numerous injuries to the child, including bruises around the crown of his head, across the forehead and into the nose area, torso and legs.

He also noticed a bite mark on the child’s lower left leg and what appear to be pinch marks on the victim’s neck and soles of his feet.

Officer Kenner and Detective Scott Sebring interviewed the defendant later on Feb. 26 and elicited a statement from the defendant in which he admitted to backhanding the child and pinching his nose.

Mr. Robinson would pinpoint times when he struck the boy, but said he pinched the boy’s nose the morning of Feb. 26.

Dana and his older brother, Draven, 2, are now in protective custody of the Logan County Children’s Services. Mr. Robinson’s three older sons, ages 12, 10 and 8, are living with a paternal uncle.

LCCS Executive Director John Holtkamp said doctors have told him Dana’s head injuries are comparable to injuries inflicted in a severe motor vehicle crash.

Doctors believe swelling and bleeding of Dana’s brain caused it to systematically shut down over a period of time, Mr. Holtkamp said.

The boy’s brain reached a point on the morning of Feb. 26 that it stopped primitive functions, such a breathing.

Dana’s mother, Sue A. Hutchins, 35, has been charged with permitting child abuse, a third-degree felony. She is currently lodged in the Logan County Jail under a $50,000 bond.

She has a preliminary hearing at 5 p.m. Monday before Judge Ross.

MaineRed
03-08-2007, 09:29 AM
One of your friends GAC?

zombie-a-go-go
03-08-2007, 09:46 AM
One of your friends GAC?

What is that supposed to mean?

paintmered
03-08-2007, 09:47 AM
One of your friends GAC?

Excuse me?

MaineRed
03-08-2007, 10:02 AM
The guy the article about is from the same town as GAC.

I actually didn't read what the guy had done, just saw the picture and realized the connection to Bellefontaine. Needless to say, or so I thought, I was kidding.

smith288
03-08-2007, 10:55 AM
Always been crazy people. Technology just let's us know it a little more now.
I dont agree. People are more stupid and less inhibited to do idiotic things these days. Not saying nothing happened previously, I just happen to believe our society is gravitating to a more brutal and ugly one in really odd situations. I doubt there was many if ANY "using-4 mos old-as-bat" type of situations in 1900 to now.

M2
03-08-2007, 11:22 AM
Always been crazy people. Technology just let's us know it a little more now.

Exactly. From what I'm able to gather, the shocking details of human behavior from 100 years ago would have blown our minds. Savage, brutal, inhuman behavior is nothing new.

westofyou
03-08-2007, 11:25 AM
Exactly. From what I'm able to gather, the shocking details of human behavior from 100 years ago would have blown our minds. Savage, brutal, inhuman behavior is nothing new.

Dr. H. H. Holmes, please pick up the Red courtesy phone, Dr. H. H. Holmes, please pick up the Red courtesy phone.

Chip R
03-08-2007, 11:48 AM
Dr. H. H. Holmes, please pick up the Red courtesy phone, Dr. H. H. Holmes, please pick up the Red courtesy phone.


Oh, man, I was just thinking the same thing when I read M2's post and right before I read yours.

GAC
03-08-2007, 07:03 PM
One of your friends GAC?

No. But right now, there are alot of people in this community that would love to take this guy out back and be his "friend" for about 15 minutes (if you know what I mean).

Nothing in this world disgusts me more then a man who feels he must prove his masculinity by beating up and abusing woman and children.

CougarQuest
03-09-2007, 01:02 AM
I dont agree. People are more stupid and less inhibited to do idiotic things these days. Not saying nothing happened previously, I just happen to believe our society is gravitating to a more brutal and ugly one in really odd situations. I doubt there was many if ANY "using-4 mos old-as-bat" type of situations in 1900 to now.

I don't agree that we are more brutal than past. Several things may make it appear that we are though.

- Laws change and societies perceptions change. It used to be legal to beat your wife with a rod as thick as your thumb. Challenging one to a duel was acceptable. In fact we've had Presidents who (obviously) won duels that they challenged others to. Paddling a student was considered proper child rearing.
- Scientific, technological, mechanical, and psychological advances have greatly improved law enforcement efforts in solving and discovering crimes: (how law enforcement officers interview and interrogate suspects, DNA, electronic signs over the highway warning of a kidnapped person, cell phones so people call immediately when they see something and give an immediate therefore more accurate description or details of what they saw, etc.) So not only are law enforcement able to solve more crimes, they are able to discover more crimes. Which allows for people that used to be listed as missing are now confirmed deceased and you know how they were killed.
-News media. I'm including the Internet in this group. Which obviously includes sites like this and blogs, things beyond "News sites". Your able to get more news from around the world almost instantly. The news media has jumped leaps and bounds (thats good and bad considering the quality of some sites). Things that old news producers wouldn't put on your local news or world news because they weren't big enough and there are time constraints. The local news used to be only 30 minutes, not that long ago. Before that there was radio. Before that, daily newspapers, weekly newspapers, monthly newspapers. Before that ... word of mouth. Some of the most notorious crimes that happened before 1900, you know about because they happened in or very near big cities, with big news agencies: Jack the Ripper, Lizzy Borden and her forty whacks, etc.

Does the name Eddie Gein from Plainfield, Wisconsin mean anything to you? I bet Jeffrey Dahmer from Milwaukee, Wisconsin does though. That's because Dahmer didn't happen that long ago, yet Gein who was at least just as sick as Dahmer, was only 50 years ago. Gein was caught in 1957 by the Deputy whose mother went missing from work one night. The Deputy and Sheriff found the Deputy's mother hung like a deer by her feet, gutted, headless, cut from her genitals to her throat. Her head was found beneath the mattress with nails in her ears. They found the remains of 15 women in and around his house on his farm. They found skulls used as soup bowls, leg bones used as table legs, lips on a string, pieces of salted genitalia in a box, skulls on his bedposts, skins from women that he used to wear to pretend that he was a woman, human skins to cover chairs, human organs on the stove. He used to sell "venison" to his neighbors, though no one could recall later ever seeing him hunt deer. His real life killings were what brought you "Psycho", "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", and Buffalo Bill in "Silence of the Lambs".

Our generation or our five previous generations didn't invent sex or the various ways to engage in it or the frequency and we didn't invent brutality or the various ways to engage in it or the frequency.