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redsupport
03-06-2007, 09:28 PM
I hope he makes the squad

RedEye
03-06-2007, 09:34 PM
Anyone got the 411 on Santos? Wasn't he a decent starter a few years back? I seem to remember him having decent stuff and I'm wondering whether he's more of a legit candidate for #5 starter or closer than we realized.

flyer85
03-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Santos is a good bet to pitch better than Saarloos.

captainmorgan07
03-06-2007, 09:40 PM
santos pitched decently for the buco's as the 5th starter just didn't provide them many innings thats why they let him go

boognish
03-06-2007, 09:47 PM
Personally, I don't see much in the way of upside...high HR rates, runs (earned or no) allowed in bunches, mediocre GB%, and lots of baserunners. Was strafed badly enough in Pittsburgh last season; I don't foresee success pitching in our ballpark especially considering the ghastly .361/.412/.558 line he allowed to righties last season.

His historical reverse splits (.255/.328/.417 vs LHB, .311/.367/.493 vs RHB from the last 3 seasons) and a poor handful of innings out of the bullpen last season suggest he wouldn't handle a bullpen role well, and that is the primary role for the fifth man until mid-May.

KoryMac5
03-06-2007, 10:55 PM
Santos hasn't been effective since his rookie year in Detroit. Maybe he can turn into an effective reliever for us.

Dracodave
03-07-2007, 12:26 AM
Victor Santos...


Scouting Report
Assets
Santos has good heat and generally has command over his stuff.

Flaws
Right-handed hitters pound him and he struggles from the stretch. Also needs to build endurance as a starter.

Career potential
An average late-rotation starter or middle-reliever.


Major League Over-all stats


ERA W L GP GS CG ShO SV IP H R ER HR BB K
5.14 22 42 150 84 1 0 0 539.0 604 346 308 71 246 377

RedEye
03-07-2007, 01:21 AM
So if "Santos has good heat", do you all think he could work as a closer or a set-up man?

Ravenlord
03-07-2007, 02:45 AM
So if "Santos has good heat", do you all think he could work as a closer or a set-up man?

from reading articles from last season from the Pirates web-site, i'd say no...he's very Ramon Ortiz like in that regard.

icehole3
03-07-2007, 07:46 AM
Santos = Esteban Yan

edabbs44
03-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Flaws
Right-handed hitters pound him and he struggles from the stretch. Also needs to build endurance as a starter.

Righties "pound" him. That's always promising.

thatcoolguy_22
03-07-2007, 10:04 AM
especially considering the ghastly .361/.412/.558 line he allowed to righties last season.

His historical reverse splits (.255/.328/.417 vs LHB, .311/.367/.493 vs RHB from the last 3 seasons) and a poor handful of innings out of the bullpen last season suggest he wouldn't handle a bullpen role well, and that is the primary role for the fifth man until mid-May.



Santos so far this ST looks like D. Wise (from '06 ST) but a pitcher's version. I wouldn't be getting my hopes up just yet. Pitchers are always considered to be closer to form before the season's beginning. Besides his career splits vs RH hitters is horrendous. I honestly hope he is sent down to Louisville or traded at the peak of his peak performance for whatever we could possibly to get for him (low level prospect maybe). We have too many young guys that could put up the same if not better numbers than Santos with an actual upside ie: Belisle, Livingston, Lizard, Saarlos or, Salmon.

TheWalls
03-07-2007, 11:07 AM
Classic AAAA pitcher. Send him to L'Ville or let him go.

BRM
03-07-2007, 11:09 AM
Classic AAAA pitcher. Send him to L'Ville or let him go.

The Reds wouldn't have many pitchers left on the roster if they sent out all the AAAA guys.