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westofyou
03-07-2007, 12:11 PM
http://robots.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/03/07/captain.america/index.html

NEW YORK (CNN) -- He fought and triumphed over Hitler, Tojo, international Communism and a host of supervillains, but he could not dodge a sniper's bullet.

Comic book hero Captain America is dead.

After close to 60 years in print, Marvel Comics has killed off Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, one of its most famous and beloved superheroes amid an already controversial story line, "Civil War," which is pitting the heroes of Marvel's universe against one another.

In the comic series, Rogers was to stand trial for defying a superhero registration law passed after a hero's tragic mistake causes a 9/11-like event.

Steve Rogers eventually surrenders to police. He is later mortally wounded as he climbs the courthouse steps.

Marvel says the comic story line was intentionally written as an allegory to current real-life issues like the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and the September 11 attacks.

"Every child knew about 9/11," says Dan Buckley, president of Marvel Comics. "If [he] could see a TV he knew what 9/11 was. The other similarities [to] things going on are just part of storytelling."

It was a violent and strange end for an American hero.

Captain America first appeared in 1941, just as the United States entered World War II. He was a symbol of American strength and resolve in fighting the Axis powers, and later Communism.

As originally conceived by creators Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, Rogers was a man born before the Great Depression in a very different America. He disappeared after the war and reappeared only recently in the Marvel timeline. For a superhero many thought perfect, it was perhaps a fatal flaw for "Cap," as he became known.

"He hasn't been living in the modern world and the world does move," says Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada.

Quesada said he wanted to readers find their own meaning in Cap's end.

"There is a lot to be read in there. But I'm not one who is going to tell people, this is what you should read into it, because I could look into it and read several different types of messages," he told CNN.

Still, one has to wonder: Is Captain America really dead? Comic book characters have routinely died, only to be resurrected when necessary to storylines.

Joe Quesada agrees -- but said times are different now.

"There was period in comics where characters would just die and then be resurrected. And the death had very little meaning and the resurrection had very little meaning," he said. "All I ask of my writers is if you're going to kill a character off, please let that death have some meaning in the overall scope of things."

Besides, he said, there are other important questions left unanswered.

"What happens with the costume? And what happens to the characters that are friends and enemies of Cap?" Quesada said with a smile. "You're going to have to read the books to find out."

Highlifeman21
03-07-2007, 12:13 PM
RIP Captain America

Joseph
03-07-2007, 12:30 PM
I tried to get into Cap as a kid in the 80's, but I could never seem to connect with him the same way I did with the X-Men, and Punisher, and Dawn Patrol and others, still I'm very sad to see him gone, he was iconic to say the least.

NJReds
03-07-2007, 12:35 PM
I collected comics when I was younger, but was never a big Captain America fan. Not a great way to go for a hero, though, is it.

westofyou
03-07-2007, 12:37 PM
I tried to get into Cap as a kid in the 80's, but I could never seem to connect with him the same way I did with the X-Men, and Punisher, and Dawn Patrol and others, still I'm very sad to see him gone, he was iconic to say the least.

I think the Captain was pure WW 2 super hero, he's of the generation of Toy Trains, GI Joe (before he was an "Action Hero") and the Cisco Kid.

Very Sputnik, totally Cold War.

Chip R
03-07-2007, 12:38 PM
Are they going to bring him back like they did with Superman?

GIK
03-07-2007, 12:45 PM
I'm not sure he has the abilities to come back.

KronoRed
03-07-2007, 12:57 PM
Clone? ;)

RIP CA

Redsland
03-07-2007, 01:24 PM
I'm surprised he hadn't made admiral by now.

Johnny Footstool
03-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Are they going to bring him back like they did with Superman?

Someone else will get the shield and costume, and probably the Super Soldier syrum as well.

Knowing Marvel, it will be Wolverine.

Hollcat
03-07-2007, 01:46 PM
I'm surprised he hadn't made admiral by now.
:laugh:

Thanks Redsland, that provided a nice little chuckle

durl
03-07-2007, 02:25 PM
It almost sounds like the writers are saying that patriotism is old-fashioned and needs to go away. I used to collect comics back when I was a kid, and while I didn't collect the CA comic, I still liked the character. I think it's a sad end for an iconic figure in comics. Shame on Marvel.

KittyDuran
03-07-2007, 02:38 PM
It almost sounds like the writers are saying that patriotism is old-fashioned and needs to go away. I used to collect comics back when I was a kid, and while I didn't collect the CA comic, I still liked the character. I think it's a sad end for an iconic figure in comics. Shame on Marvel.Huh??? You must be reading more into this than I am. IMHO Mavel is trying very hard to compete against video games for kids' attention and some of the games have violence and death. At least with CA's death there seems to be a story behind it - not just random violence.

Also, judging by the responses, CA wasn't a favorite for awhile.

NJReds
03-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Actually, I can see durl's point. I think that Cap intially standing up for personal freedom then essentially giving in, which leads to his death on the courthouse steps, is more then just an act of random violence. The young readership may not put the pieces together, but it's a pretty clear message.

KittyDuran
03-07-2007, 03:16 PM
Actually, I can see durl's point. I think that Cap intially standing up for personal freedom then essentially giving in, which leads to his death on the courthouse steps, is more then just an act of random violence. The young readership may not put the pieces together, but it's a pretty clear message.I thought that's what I said...the patriotism is old-fashioned is the part I didn't understand.


At least with CA's death there seems to be a story behind it - not just random violence.

guttle11
03-07-2007, 04:00 PM
I'm just glad Captain Planet is still alive. He's are hero. He takes pollution down to zero.

NJReds
03-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Who said I could read...:dunno:

texasdave
03-07-2007, 04:24 PM
I never did like Captain America all that much. Now Captain Windy is another story altogether. :luvu:

chicoruiz
03-07-2007, 05:05 PM
Color me skeptical. In comics you can be using someone's skull for an ashtray and two months later they're alive. Especially if there's a deal in the works for an Avengers movie, as there supposedly is.

Matt700wlw
03-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Time for a movie...

smith288
03-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Captain America first appeared in 1941, just as the United States entered World War II. He was a symbol of American strength and resolve in fighting the Axis powers, and later Communism.

Now he is just a tool for stupid political statements. Bravo Marvel. :rolleyes:

TRF
03-08-2007, 12:35 PM
Rumor is that Frank Castle, The Punisher will be taking up the role of Captain America. One thought is he'll struggle to maintain the ideals of the original Cap, especially if you consider his origin... Vietnam Vet, Family killed by the mob etc.

It does make for a very interesting twist if true.

Johnny Footstool
03-08-2007, 04:15 PM
SPOILER ALERT





From Wikipedia:


While Captain America appears to be genuinely dead, in Civil War: The Initiative, Ms. Marvel tells Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) that Captain America is not dead but "...tucked away safe on the Raft... They're trying to save his life even as we speak." It is unclear whether Ms. Marvel is misguided, intentionally lying or telling the truth. On March 7, CNN and other news organizations reported the death of Captain America. Marvel later confirmed the death on its website.

zombie-a-go-go
03-08-2007, 04:44 PM
Scans daily has the 'pertinent' pages of the issue here:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3135570.html

If anyone who wanted to read it (like myself) found it sold out everywhere by the time they got off work.

GAC
03-08-2007, 08:29 PM
I heard he was under investigation for using illegal human growth hormones to abtain that body. :mooner:

GAC
03-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Rumor is that Frank Castle, The Punisher will be taking up the role of Captain America.

I heard it was going to be Bill Maher. :mooner:

Mario-Rijo
09-10-2010, 08:23 PM
Time for a movie...

A bit late but....

Some pics from the set of the movie, seems like some pretty genuine articles from the 40's there. Obviously that isn't Chris Evans (Johnny Storm from the Fantastic 4 movie) who is starring as Capt. America but his stunt double. Should be pretty cool as Hugo Weaving (Agent SMith from the Matrix and Elrond the main Elf from Lord of the Rings) is playing the Red Skull.

Myspace LINK (http://www.myspace.com/everything/photo/2010/09/09/captain-america-set-pics#pm_cmp=mce_con_ent_ftop_MH_CAP)

Raisor
09-10-2010, 08:26 PM
by the way, Steve Rogers is alive and well in the comics thankyouverymuch.

Mario-Rijo
09-10-2010, 09:05 PM
by the way, Steve Rogers is alive and well in the comics thankyouverymuch.

Figures....

TRF
09-10-2010, 11:40 PM
by the way, Steve Rogers is alive and well in the comics thankyouverymuch.

only Bucky stays dead.


wait...

Kingspoint
09-11-2010, 12:54 AM
My mom gave all of my sister's Batman and SuperMan (and SuperGirl) comics to the goodwill about 1966. She had a couple hundred of them.

I liked Donald Duck and the Archie series. Always looking for a laugh.

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2010, 10:44 AM
I heard it was going to be Bill Maher. :mooner:

Bill Maher is probably my least-favorite human being.

ThornWithin81
09-14-2010, 01:15 PM
The Marvel universe is absolutely impossible to keep up with. I've tried.

marcshoe
09-15-2010, 12:52 AM
Kind of surprised at Chris Evans; he seems a bit lightweight. I'd heard Jensen Ackles, and I think I'd prefer him. Who knows, though; Evans might surprise me.

Mario-Rijo
09-15-2010, 09:42 PM
Kind of surprised at Chris Evans; he seems a bit lightweight. I'd heard Jensen Ackles, and I think I'd prefer him. Who knows, though; Evans might surprise me.

I don't think you could go wrong with either of them, both pretty entertaining guys.

Raisor
10-28-2010, 11:05 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/triangleshield.jpg

Tony Cloninger
10-29-2010, 08:01 PM
I had CA & Falcon comics from 1968 through 1975. Just about everyone.
Always found it funny how they tried to make Falcon into a militant/Shaft like character in the early 70's.

I had every single The Invaders series which had all the 40's heroes....Cap, Bucky, The Human Torch (Created by an experiment, not the FF one), Sub-Mariner, Union Jack.

I got out of comic books by around early to mid 80's..... I thought the whole thing with Spider-Man just went all over the place. The drawing and colors got way too over the top. I know you have to keep the interests of the new generation but it also seems like you have to dumb it down or make it just completely unrecognizable.

Heath
10-29-2010, 09:17 PM
I always liked the North of the Border CA clone, Captain Canuck.

Raisor
01-14-2011, 02:40 PM
http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ChrisEvansCostume.jpg

Raisor
02-06-2011, 11:19 PM
Captain America & Bucky with the Hollowing Commandos (minus Fury)

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa432/russw1138/invaders1.jpg

Caveat Emperor
03-24-2011, 01:25 AM
http://screenrant.com/full-captain-america-trailer-rob-107430/

New trailer for the Captain America movie. I'm kinda looking forward to this now.

Johnny Footstool
03-24-2011, 03:57 PM
There has never been a better advertisement for steroids.