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maniem
03-21-2007, 07:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2806659

I know this has been discussed before, but it looks as though the Phillies have had to lower their asking price for him. If they would bite on Cormier and a low-level prospect, would you do it? I doubt he'd be anything better than a #4 starter, but he'd be an improvement over Milton. If the Phils were to do that deal, the Reds would more than likely be stuck with his entire '07 salary.

Degenerate39
03-21-2007, 07:45 PM
He's too young

RedLegSuperStar
03-21-2007, 07:55 PM
It would probably take a Coffey or Bray.. maybe a combo of the two. Considering they are looking at Mike MacDougal(ChiSox) and Kevin Mench(Brewers)

KoryMac5
03-21-2007, 09:30 PM
A few weeks ago the Jays asked about Lieber. The Phils wanted Rios in return.

TheWalls
03-21-2007, 09:43 PM
Send them Cormier back and one of our young fast outfielders Hopper/Deno. Their problem (Lieber) and ours (glut of average pitchers) both improved.

BEETTLEBUG
03-21-2007, 09:53 PM
I Like That Deal ( Thewall)

jojo
03-21-2007, 09:54 PM
A few weeks ago the Jays asked about Lieber. The Phils wanted Rios in return.

*cough*

jojo
03-21-2007, 10:03 PM
Send them Cormier back and one of our young fast outfielders Hopper/Deno. Their problem (Lieber) and ours (glut of average pitchers) both improved.

While in the middle of a pennant race last season, the Phillies traded Courmier for a AAA pitcher (who they ultimately waived)....why exactly would they want to be on the hook for another year of Courmier's salary this season?

Norris Hopper has trade value?

Dracodave
03-22-2007, 12:24 AM
While in the middle of a pennant race last season, the Phillies traded Courmier for a AAA pitcher (who they ultimately waived)....why exactly would they want to be on the hook for another year of Courmier's salary this season?

Norris Hopper has trade value?

I traded Norris Hopper and Cormier for a bag of BBQ Chips, a cold can of sprite and a banana...

I think that was well worth it.

asboog
03-22-2007, 05:43 PM
Considering they are looking at Mike MacDougal(ChiSox)

I don't know where you are getting this info from but I don't see the Sox doing this trade at all. We have Floyd and Danks who are battling it out for the 5th spot and I feel both have a much better up side then Lieber. Not to mention tha t if Jenks continues to struggle like he has in Spring Training we may need MacDougal to close games.

klw
03-22-2007, 05:47 PM
Have they learned nothing from Arroyo/Pena? Garcia with a sore bicep. They should keep Lieber unless bowled over- or least make it seem that way.

PuffyPig
03-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Send them Cormier back and one of our young fast outfielders Hopper/Deno. Their problem (Lieber) and ours (glut of average pitchers) both improved.


I hate when Hopper and Deno are referred to as interchagable parts.

I gotta think that Deno has reasonable trade value. Hopper is one of those guys you can always pick up on waivers pretty much every week.

TheWalls
03-23-2007, 12:39 AM
I hate when Hopper and Deno are referred to as interchagable parts.

I gotta think that Deno has reasonable trade value. Hopper is one of those guys you can always pick up on waivers pretty much every week.

Fine, whatever, make it the indispensible Deno and get the deal done! Does anyone really think Lieber doesn't upgrade our starters?

BRM
03-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Fine, whatever, make it the indispensible Deno and get the deal done! Does anyone really think Lieber doesn't upgrade our starters?

Well, he's likely better than Milton.

bounty37h
03-23-2007, 12:34 PM
^me thinks I am likely better then Milton ;) kidding of course, but, uhm, not really.

jmac
03-23-2007, 12:53 PM
^me thinks I am likely better then Milton ;) kidding of course, but, uhm, not really.

Dont sell yourself short...I think you got it in you(or Milton doesnt).

Highlifeman21
03-23-2007, 08:55 PM
I traded Norris Hopper and Cormier for a bag of BBQ Chips, a cold can of sprite and a banana...

I think that was well worth it.

Wow, you got much more than I ever thought you would for Norris Hopper and Rheal Cormier.

The can of sprite I can see, but a banana AND a bag of BBQ chips? Impressive.

Unfortunately, the Phils need another OF as much as they need a 1B or a 2B, or a SS.

Highlifeman21
03-23-2007, 08:57 PM
Fine, whatever, make it the indispensible Deno and get the deal done! Does anyone really think Lieber doesn't upgrade our starters?

Denorfia has value, whereas Hopper's value is bagging groceries at Kroger.

We're talking potential NL CF Gold Glover vs. career minor leaguer with a very limited skill set.

Worlds apart.