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Spitball
03-23-2007, 08:13 PM
Reds-020 001 0
Cubs-101 001

Freel,cf
Hatteberg,1b
Griffey,rf
Encarnacion,3b
Dunn,lf
Ross,c
Phillips,2b
Gonzalez,ss
Harang,p


Soriano,cf
Izturis,ss
Lee,1b
Ramirez,3b
Jones,rf
Barrett,c
Floyd,lf
DeRosa,2b
Zambrano,p

It is the bottom of the seventh. Harang has struggled a bit and has thrown 110 pitches and has just walked both Soriano and Izturis to start the inning. Harang is scheduled to bat third in the Reds' half of the eighth. What would you do? Reliever? Double switch? Stay with Harang?

reds44
03-23-2007, 08:16 PM
If you ever walk Izturis you should be taken out immediatley. Meanwhile, if Sweet Lou bats Izturis 2nd he should be fired immediatley. Murton is going to start OD over Floyd, and bat 2nd.

KoryMac5
03-23-2007, 08:22 PM
I bring in Weathers to face Lee. In 16 career AB's Lee has 1 hit against Stormy. I am hopng that his luck continues.

OnBaseMachine
03-23-2007, 08:25 PM
I bring in Todd Coffey. In a very small sample size, Ramirez is only 1-for-9 against Coffey, however, Lee is 3-for-7 with all three hits being singles. Jones has never faced Coffey. Bringing Coffey in in that situation makes the most sense to me - he's a fresh arm with the ability to get the big strikeout needed in that atbat.

wheels
03-23-2007, 08:31 PM
Coffey's my guy too. It would'nt matter when the pitcher's slot would come up because you'd probably be burning a PH anyway.

Coffey's your best arm and that situation would probably decide the game. Use him now, and take your chances in the eighth and ninth.

westofyou
03-23-2007, 09:20 PM
You are the manager...

No... actually I am the walrus.

Hap
03-23-2007, 09:41 PM
I would pull Harang and bring in Darth Dibble, and pinch hit for him in the next inning.

A double switch is only appropriate when the reliever will pitch more than one inning.

Reds Nd2
03-23-2007, 09:44 PM
No... actually I am the walrus.
Goo goo g' joob

To answer the question though... wouldn't it would be nice to know who the Reds have in the pen and on the bench? Which pitcher has already pitched on back to back days? Whose pitching for the Cubs in the top half of the 8th and which pitchers do they have available? Who do the Cubs have on their bench who might pinch hit?

Oh well, back to the Magical Mystery Tour...

redsrule2500
03-23-2007, 10:01 PM
I'd bring in a reliever. Who? I don't know.

Patrick Bateman
03-23-2007, 10:06 PM
I'd bring in Coffey too. There's no need for the double switch with lots of guys available. Two best hitters due up and both are right handed. Coffey is the most sensible choice. Coffey can pitch the entire inning and then use a PH when it's his turn to bat.

RedsManRick
03-23-2007, 11:14 PM
Bring in Coffey and PH for him in the bottom of the inning. He's the best bet against 2 right handers with power given his decent K rate and strong ground ball tendencies. A double play ball is ideal here and Stormy is just a touch homer prone. Saarloos is option #2 if Coffey is unavailable.

Falls City Beer
03-23-2007, 11:21 PM
The way Aaron's going, he'll be lucky to still be in there after the 3rd inning. The Cubs have demolished the Reds' pitching since the start of the new millennium. My guess is that Saarloos will be seeing a few innings.

redsupport
03-24-2007, 12:52 AM
santos is the answer

Highlifeman21
03-24-2007, 03:20 AM
Freel would have never started in CF if I'm the manager, and there's a damn good chance Josh Hamilton would have started in RF instead of Griffey.

Phillips would have batted ahead of Ross, and before Gonzalez.

I think those 3 moves right there would have hopefully gotten us a lead instead of the 3-3 tie in the bottom of the 7th.

But, if I still find myself 3-3, I go to the mound and ask Harang if he can get Lee out, while I get Todd Coffey ready to go in the pen.

Based on Harang's confidence, he either pitches to Lee, or we do some cat and mouse pick off attempts to get Coffey ready.

jmac
03-24-2007, 09:40 AM
The way Aaron's going, he'll be lucky to still be in there after the 3rd inning. The Cubs have demolished the Reds' pitching since the start of the new millennium. My guess is that Saarloos will be seeing a few innings.

It's ST..arent the pitchers "working" on things?
That's what people say in regards to young guys(JH) having exceptional ST.

Spitball
03-24-2007, 09:44 AM
No...actually I am the walrus. :laugh:


I am the eggman...goo goo g'joob...

Harang, a naughty boy who let his face grow long, is removed from the game.

So, Coffey, sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come, is summoned from the pen.

He fires a fastball to Lee who scorches a one hopper to the left side of the infield. I'm cryin'...Soriano and Izturis run like pigs from a gun, but Gonzalez makes a backhanded stab and fires to third...to second...to first, and like elementary penguins singing Hari Krishna, they turn a triple play.

Coffey makes one pitch and gets three outs.

To the top of the eighth.

Phillips singles start the inning. What would you do next?

(Note: I was hoping this thread would promote our second guessing skills.)

oneupper
03-24-2007, 10:54 AM
When I was a kid, I'd pretend I was Al Kaline or Tony Perez. Just sayin...

mth123
03-24-2007, 03:03 PM
:laugh:


I am the eggman...goo goo g'joob...

Harang, a naughty boy who let his face grow long, is removed from the game.

So, Coffey, sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come, is summoned from the pen.

He fires a fastball to Lee who scorches a one hopper to the left side of the infield. I'm cryin'...Soriano and Izturis run like pigs from a gun, but Gonzalez makes a backhanded stab and fires to third...to second...to first, and like elementary penguins singing Hari Krishna, they turn a triple play.

Coffey makes one pitch and gets three outs.

To the top of the eighth.

Phillips singles start the inning. What would you do next?

(Note: I was hoping this thread would promote our second guessing skills.)

I try to get Phillips a chance to steal 2nd and bunt him to 3rd. Coffey hits for himself unless the Reds acquire a better pitcher than any of the other choices to replace him.

Spitball
03-24-2007, 05:45 PM
I try to get Phillips a chance to steal 2nd and bunt him to 3rd. Coffey hits for himself unless the Reds acquire a better pitcher than any of the other choices to replace him.

I agree. Actually, no one mentioned it, but I would have pulled a double switch, putting Valentin in the number nine spot as the catcher and putting Coffey in the number six hole replacing Ross. That would allow Coffey to pitch more than one inning. Some might not want to do this with the catcher, but I've never bought into that fear. Also, being on the road, I'd pinch hit Josh Hamilton for Gonzalez.

Handofdeath
03-24-2007, 07:03 PM
Reds-020 001 0
Cubs-101 001

Freel,cf
Hatteberg,1b
Griffey,rf
Encarnacion,3b
Dunn,lf
Ross,c
Phillips,2b
Gonzalez,ss
Harang,p


Soriano,cf
Izturis,ss
Lee,1b
Ramirez,3b
Jones,rf
Barrett,c
Floyd,lf
DeRosa,2b
Zambrano,p

It is the bottom of the seventh. Harang has struggled a bit and has thrown 110 pitches and has just walked both Soriano and Izturis to start the inning. Harang is scheduled to bat third in the Reds' half of the eighth. What would you do? Reliever? Double switch? Stay with Harang?

110 pitches by the bottom of the seventh? What would I do? I would wonder when Dusty Baker became the Reds manager.

Chip R
03-24-2007, 09:33 PM
110 pitches by the bottom of the seventh? What would I do? I would wonder when Dusty Baker became the Reds manager.


Indeed.

Spitball
03-25-2007, 12:26 AM
Indeed.
Whoa! Whoa! Where does that come from???

Harang had the following pitch counts last season:
IP-5 P-100
IP-6.2 P-118
IP-7 P-112
IP-7.2 P-114
IP4.1 P-102
IP-7 P-103
IP-6 P-103
IP-6.2 P-119
IP-7 P-114
IP-8 P-135
IP-7 P-106
IP-6 P-111
IP-6 P-115
IP-6 P-117

I don't think the there is any reason to "Indeed" that post.

Chip R
03-25-2007, 12:36 AM
Whoa! Whoa! Where does that come from???

Harang had the following pitch counts last season:
IP-5 P-100
IP-6.2 P-118
IP-7 P-112
IP-7.2 P-114
IP4.1 P-102
IP-7 P-103
IP-6 P-103
IP-6.2 P-119
IP-7 P-114
IP-8 P-135
IP-7 P-106
IP-6 P-111
IP-6 P-115
IP-6 P-117

I don't think the there is any reason to "Indeed" that post.


If he's going to throw 110 pitches in the first game of the season, Narron and Dick Pole should be fired immediately. And if you think that's OK, maybe you are Dusty Baker. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Spitball
03-25-2007, 12:40 AM
If he's going to throw 110 pitches in the first game of the season, Narron and Dick Pole should be fired immediately. And if you think that's OK, maybe you are Dusty Baker. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Who said this was the first game of the season??? This was simply a hypothetical situation.

GAC
03-25-2007, 03:43 AM
I'd get a delay of game penalty for the amount of time it would take me to analyze everything and come to a decision. :mooner:

Handofdeath
03-25-2007, 02:43 PM
Whoa! Whoa! Where does that come from???

Harang had the following pitch counts last season:
IP-5 P-100
IP-6.2 P-118
IP-7 P-112
IP-7.2 P-114
IP4.1 P-102
IP-7 P-103
IP-6 P-103
IP-6.2 P-119
IP-7 P-114
IP-8 P-135
IP-7 P-106
IP-6 P-111
IP-6 P-115
IP-6 P-117

I don't think the there is any reason to "Indeed" that post.

Spiball, I've got a four letter word for you. J O K E