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dougdirt
03-29-2007, 06:23 PM
So you better look out.
Tom Singer writes for MLB.com and had this to say about Santana in his Top 5 Cy Young contenders column for the AL


2. Johan Santana, Twins: People to whom tales of Sandy Koufax sound like legend are being treated to a reincarnation. Santana has gone 55-19 with an ERA nearly two runs below the league's overall number over the past three season. At the same age (28), Koufax was coming off three seasons with a cumulative record of 40-33, and took off. Heaven help the league if Santana has any liftoff left. Word that he has finally refined a reliable changeup is not what the AL wanted to hear.


Seriously, just wow. How do you get paid to write about baseball and say something like that? Santana has the best change up in the AL, maybe in all of baseball.... is this guy kidding or what?
Oh and in case you were wondering, his favorite to win the CY is of course Matsuzaka.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070329&content_id=1864964&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp

Dunner44
03-29-2007, 06:42 PM
Yeah, the guys on B-Ball tonight were raving about Santana's change, said it was without a doubt the best in the AL. Moron.

MrCinatit
03-29-2007, 06:45 PM
At this rate, going up to the plate against Johan with a stool leg could be a batter's best bet.

TOBTTReds
03-29-2007, 06:52 PM
Word that he has finally refined a reliable changeup is not what the AL wanted to hear.

I think this is toungue in check.

dougdirt
03-29-2007, 07:01 PM
I think this is toungue in check.

I can only hope.

Degenerate39
03-29-2007, 07:09 PM
Can he be any more dominate?

Dracodave
03-29-2007, 07:42 PM
Most people who's watched Johan also know he's thrown TWO change ups over the past few years. A cirlce change and a straight change, both dominate hitters.

boognish
03-29-2007, 08:17 PM
dougdirt, I plead ignorance as I do not watch much AL baseball, but doesn't Santana throw 2 types of change-ups?

dougdirt
03-29-2007, 08:27 PM
Can he be any more dominate?

only if he could clone himself and start 1-5

flyer85
03-29-2007, 08:33 PM
He's always had one of the best changeups in baseball. I'd say Tom is clueless.

blumj
03-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Unless it's just a mistake, and it's supposed to say another type of pitch, like a curveball or something.

Superdude
03-29-2007, 09:21 PM
I heard Dunn hes developed some power this year also.

Seriously though, if he wasn't kidding, Tom Singer should have just earned a lifetime ban from baseball writing.

KronoRed
03-29-2007, 09:42 PM
only if he could clone himself and start 1-5
No bullpen needed there.

guttle11
03-29-2007, 09:45 PM
It's good to see. He's due to breakout this year.

bucksfan2
03-30-2007, 02:20 PM
How is Santana ranked 2nd in a pre season cy young award list? Who is ahead of him?

Patrick Bateman
03-30-2007, 02:23 PM
How is Santana ranked 2nd in a pre season cy young award list? Who is ahead of him?

What do you mean? I have him ranked third on his own team, let alone number 2 in Cy Young status.

Ever heard of Ramon Ortiz and Sidney Ponson????

dougdirt
03-30-2007, 02:26 PM
How is Santana ranked 2nd in a pre season cy young award list? Who is ahead of him?

Matsuzaka of course. He is the second cmoing.

kheidg-
03-30-2007, 03:36 PM
Reading the article was the biggest waste of 5 minutes in my life

UC_Ken
03-30-2007, 05:03 PM
Any ranking of Cy contenders that doesn't have Santana #1 is worthless. He is the favorite to win that award every year.

I think Matsusaka has an opportunity to be a huge bust. Rome was saying on ESPN that Dice-K was extremely abused in Japan. I remember him saying that Dice K threw over 200 pitches in a game, pitched in relief the next day, and then started again a couple days later. Don't remember the exact story but it was something like that. If these stories are true his arm could fall off at any time.