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Razor Shines
04-09-2007, 02:31 AM
Barry Zito is 0-2 with an 8.18 ERA and a 1.920 OPSA. How we lookin?

I think that he'll obviously be better than that this season, but that contract is still ridiculous. And I think by the time 2013 rolls around and his salary has jumped up to 20 mil. I think SF fans will just begin to understand how we feel about Eric Milton.

jmcclain19
04-09-2007, 02:53 AM
Way overreacting.

For Zito's career, he has 203IP in April for a 5.00ERA and an OPS against of .736.

Just like the rest of the Oakland A's, he's a notoriously slow starter. Heck, if he just had an average April for his career, he'd go from one of the better pitchers in the game to one of a handful you could consider the best.

His career monthly splits

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=zitoba01&year=00


Split G GS GF W L S CG SHO IP ERA H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP
+-+------------+----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+------+------+----+----+----+---+----+---+----+---+
April/Mar. 34 34 0 11 16 0 1 1 203.1 5.00 196 126 113 27 86 0 166 18
May 32 32 0 11 7 0 1 0 208.1 2.98 168 72 69 22 81 2 170 10
June 36 36 0 15 9 0 0 0 230 3.80 213 108 97 26 87 0 160 8
July 38 38 0 21 9 0 1 0 246 3.51 214 100 96 26 99 6 176 16
August 41 41 0 22 14 0 4 2 277.1 2.76 214 106 85 21 98 2 208 7
Sept./Oct. 42 42 0 22 9 0 2 1 270.1 3.53 227 115 106 26 111 4 218 6

Razor Shines
04-09-2007, 02:55 AM
Way overreacting.

For Zito's career, he has 203IP in April for a 5.00ERA and an OPS against of .736.

Just like the rest of the Oakland A's, he's a notoriously slow starter. Heck, if you were to take away his April, he'd go from one of the better pitchers in the game to one of a handful you could consider the best.

His career monthly splits


Split G GS GF W L S CG SHO IP ERA H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP
+-+------------+----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+------+------+----+----+----+---+----+---+----+---+
April/Mar. 34 34 0 11 16 0 1 1 203.1 5.00 196 126 113 27 86 0 166 18
May 32 32 0 11 7 0 1 0 208.1 2.98 168 72 69 22 81 2 170 10
June 36 36 0 15 9 0 0 0 230 3.80 213 108 97 26 87 0 160 8
July 38 38 0 21 9 0 1 0 246 3.51 214 100 96 26 99 6 176 16
August 41 41 0 22 14 0 4 2 277.1 2.76 214 106 85 21 98 2 208 7
Sept./Oct. 42 42 0 22 9 0 2 1 270.1 3.53 227 115 106 26 111 4 218 6
So you think he's worth 126 mil? I said he's going to be better than he has been so far, but I don't think he's capable of pitching up to that contract. I guess we'll see.

Degenerate39
04-09-2007, 09:19 AM
For what it's worth how is Soriano doing

GoReds
04-09-2007, 09:54 AM
Zito is a prime plum for a good fantasy trade.

edabbs44
04-09-2007, 09:58 AM
A lot of Zito's worth is in the fact that he's started more games in Aug/Sept than in April/May. Durability is huge.

Jr's Boy
04-09-2007, 10:57 AM
Comparing Zito and Milton salary wise is like comparing aged wine to mad dog 20/20.

Razor Shines
04-09-2007, 02:04 PM
Comparing Zito and Milton salary wise is like comparing aged wine to mad dog 20/20.

I said in 2013 when he's making 20 mil and I also said SF fans would just begin to understand.

captainmorgan07
04-09-2007, 02:14 PM
zito also pitched in the cavern in oakland where not very many homers go out and every foul ball is almost caught so that helps tremendously

Reds1
04-09-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm not trading him, but Zito hasn't done me any favors. In fantasy that is

HBP
07-24-2007, 11:09 AM
Thought this would be interesting to bring up.

Zito is now 7-10 with a 5.00 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, and has easily been the Giants worst SP. In 117.0 IP he has:
20 GS
113 H
78 SO
54 BB
14 HR

Just more evidence how important it is for the Reds to actively develop SP from inside the organization.