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BoCcc2832
04-16-2007, 04:28 PM
Brewers lineup is already up

As for the Redlegs, Adam Dunn is on the field right now, looking like he's going to take some BP.

Weeks 2B
Hardy SS
Fielder 1B
Hall CF
Estrada C
Mench LF
Hart RF
Graffanino 3B
Capuano P

per Rosecrans...Reds lineup not up yet...

BRM
04-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Well, the good news is Kevin Mench is the only Brewer in the lineup today with a homer off Milton in his career. Mench is 2-3 with a homer and 2 RBI.

The rest of the lineup, career vs. Milton:

Weeks: 0-5, 3 Ks and a walk
Hardy: 3-6, 2 doubles, 2 RBI
Fielder: 3-5, 1 RBI
Hall: 3-10, 3 doubles, 5 walks
Estrada: 6-16, 1 double, 1 RBI
Hart: 1-6
Graffanino: 6-28, 2 doubles

forfreelin04
04-16-2007, 04:39 PM
Hall usually kills the Reds, I think at least one homerun for Hall today.

jesusfan
04-16-2007, 04:41 PM
The Brew Crew line-up is pretty scary...

Homer Bailey
04-16-2007, 04:41 PM
I couldn't feel worse about the game tonight..... Milton vs. another lefty that we probably can't hit...

That being said I'll still be in attendance!

Red Leader
04-16-2007, 04:42 PM
Never went back and looked at that poll M2 started about having both lineups posted in the first post of a game thread. I'm guessing that was decided against? :dunno:

FutureRedsGM
04-16-2007, 04:43 PM
Well, the good news is Kevin Mench is the only Brewer in the lineup today with a homer off Milton in his career. Mench is 2-3 with a homer and 2 RBI.

The rest of the lineup, career vs. Milton:

Weeks: 0-5, 3 Ks and a walk
Hardy: 3-6, 2 doubles, 2 RBI
Fielder: 3-5, 1 RBI
Hall: 3-10, 3 doubles, 5 walks
Estrada: 6-16, 1 double, 1 RBI
Hart: 1-6
Graffanino: 6-28, 2 doubles

If my math is close, that's 22 for 76 - a .289 average. Milton will get shelled tonight.

BRM
04-16-2007, 04:45 PM
Some Reds notables vs Capuano:

Freel: 5-10, 1 HR
Dunn: 3-13, 1 HR, 6 Ks, 3 walks
Griffey: 1-8, 1 double, 2 walks
EE: 2-10, 2 HRs

BRM
04-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Reds lineup per C. Trent:

Freel
Phillips
Dunn
Conine
Griffey
Encarnacion
Castro
Ross
Milton

OesterPoster
04-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Here's a good game thread read from the other side. They even have a link to RedsZone. :clap:

http://p092.ezboard.com/41607-Brewers-Capuano--Reds-Milton-610-PM-CDT/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm24.showMessage?topicID=375.t opic

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 04:51 PM
No Josh

edabbs44
04-16-2007, 04:53 PM
Reds lineup per C. Trent:

Freel
Phillips
Dunn
Conine
Griffey
Encarnacion
Castro
Ross
Milton

Conine hitting cleanup is something I thought I would never see. I've seen it a lot so far.

guttle11
04-16-2007, 04:53 PM
Is Gonzalez back today?

Tom Servo
04-16-2007, 04:53 PM
I would rather go with Enrique Cruz over Castro just because.

edabbs44
04-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Well, the good news is Kevin Mench is the only Brewer in the lineup today with a homer off Milton in his career.

The bad news is that the over/under that this will become an untrue statement is the 3rd inning. Any takers? Just for fun, of course.

jesusfan
04-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Chris Capuano is 4-4 vs. Milton!!! LOL HAHAHA

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Conine hitting cleanup is something I thought I would never see. I've seen it a lot so far.

Conine = Aurilia

Tom Servo
04-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Conine hitting cleanup is something I thought I would never see. I've seen it a lot so far.
You really thought Narron would never get him in the cleanup spot? Remember this is the same guy who batted Aurilia cleanup against righties.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Hope everybody's cynicism tank is full....it may be getting a lot of work tonight.

guttle11
04-16-2007, 04:56 PM
Hope everybody's cynicism tank is full....it may be getting a lot of work tonight.

I'm ready to roll. :devil:

EddieMilner
04-16-2007, 05:00 PM
If I was Pete this would be one of those days I didn't get around to calling my bookie.

BRM
04-16-2007, 05:04 PM
Conine hitting cleanup is something I thought I would never see. I've seen it a lot so far.

We are probably going to see it alot going forward.

5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM
04-16-2007, 05:10 PM
Well, the good news is Kevin Mench is the only Brewer in the lineup today with a homer off Milton in his career. Mench is 2-3 with a homer and 2 RBI.

The rest of the lineup, career vs. Milton:

Weeks: 0-5, 3 Ks and a walk
Hardy: 3-6, 2 doubles, 2 RBI
Fielder: 3-5, 1 RBI
Hall: 3-10, 3 doubles, 5 walks
Estrada: 6-16, 1 double, 1 RBI
Hart: 1-6
Graffanino: 6-28, 2 doubles
Going by the line-ups averages off of Milton if they hold true and each hitter gets four at bats I come up with about 11 hits for the brews.

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:10 PM
I would rather go with Enrique Cruz over Castro just because.

at least there is a little mystery with him. Castro hjust swings at every pitch thrown and plays above average defense

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
Lets get the Reds lineup in the first post. I'm sensing a trend this year of wanting to be the thread starter...race to do that all you want, but when I click on the link, I want to see the Reds lineup right off the bat, not search for it.

BRM
04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
at least there is a little mystery with him. Castro hjust swings at every pitch thrown and plays above average defense

Castro is 2-4 lifetime against Capuano, FWIW.

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
Here's a good game thread read from the other side. They even have a link to RedsZone. :clap:

http://p092.ezboard.com/41607-Brewers-Capuano--Reds-Milton-610-PM-CDT/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm24.showMessage?topicID=375.t opic

I love the guys on their board. It's funny where we all hate Milton they have multiple post s of how they love to face him :help:

KronoRed
04-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Here's a good game thread read from the other side. They even have a link to RedsZone. :clap:

http://p092.ezboard.com/41607-Brewers-Capuano--Reds-Milton-610-PM-CDT/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm24.showMessage?topicID=375.t opic

It's like a RZ mirror in the comment section :laugh:

I like their lineup posting better then ours.

NJReds
04-16-2007, 05:13 PM
Lets get the Reds lineup in the first post. I'm sensing a trend this year of wanting to be the thread starter...race to do that all you want, but when I click on the link, I want to see the Reds lineup right off the bat, not search for it.

Agreed. :thumbup: Who cares who starts the thread. Let's get both lineups in the first post.

BRM
04-16-2007, 05:14 PM
It's like a RZ mirror in the comment section :laugh:

I like their lineup posting better then ours.

They are showing much different career numbers vs Capuano and Milton than Baseball-Reference.

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:15 PM
Conine = Aurilia

Conine < Aurillia

however it is ridiculous how much cheaper

RichRed
04-16-2007, 05:16 PM
Going by the line-ups averages off of Milton if they hold true and each hitter gets four at bats I come up with about 11 hits for the brews.

How do you think they'll do after the first two innings? :evil:

BRM
04-16-2007, 05:17 PM
Conine < Aurillia

however it is ridiculous how much cheaper

Aurilia is only making $1.5M more than Conine this season. However, Rich is due $4.5M next year as well.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 05:18 PM
Conine < Aurillia

however it is ridiculous how much cheaper

I was saying when it comes to lineup position

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:21 PM
Aurilia is only making $1.5M more than Conine this season. However, Rich is due $4.5M next year as well.

:eek: for the 36/37 year old version...

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:22 PM
I was saying when it comes to lineup position

i got you but ole jerry agrees with your equation over mine... and that makes me sad:cry:

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 05:24 PM
Conine's done a good job so far...I have no issue with the pickup

RichRed
04-16-2007, 05:25 PM
:eek: for the 36/37 year old version...

Don't hold his youth against him.

Reds Freak
04-16-2007, 05:25 PM
We are probably going to see it alot going forward.

As long as EE is hitting the way he is and Conine is hitting the way he is, Conine should be the clean up hitter against a lefty. He is the only right hander that has given consistent quality at bats against a lefty in this young season. I love EE and he is going to come around and start mashing, but the Reds can't afford to have him throwing away at bats the way he has done the past week in the number 4 hole.

CTA513
04-16-2007, 05:30 PM
I just checked out ESPNs bat vs. pitch for the Brewers vs. Milton and they have 7 guys on that team hitting .300+ against Milton.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=3783

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 05:30 PM
I just checked out ESPNs bat vs. pitch for the Brewers vs. Milton and they have 7 guys on that team hitting .300+ against Milton.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=3783

Joy

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 05:30 PM
Is it just me or does EE appear to be completely losing it. Between the temper tantrum about the hbp, his slump and, narron busting his chops about the "lack of hustle" he seems to be getting progressively worse. Hopefully all he needs is a few good ABs. Heres to hoping he can set his game right versus the lefty

CTA513
04-16-2007, 05:36 PM
Is it just me or does EE appear to be completely losing it. Between the temper tantrum about the hbp, his slump and, narron busting his chops about the "lack of hustle" he seems to be getting progressively worse. Hopefully all he needs is a few good ABs. Heres to hoping he can set his game right versus the lefty

Im kind of surprised he wasnt tossed from the game for throwing his helmet if they really thought he didnt get HBP.

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 05:36 PM
Reds lineup per C. Trent:

Freel
Phillips
Dunn
Conine
Griffey
Encarnacion
Castro
Ross
Milton
We've scored 1 run the last 2 days, and he throws the exact same lineup (well I guess Dunn didn't play yesterday) out there.

jfar23
04-16-2007, 05:40 PM
Reds killer Bill Hall vs. Milton :eek:

Good fantasy signing for 2 days!

oneupper
04-16-2007, 05:41 PM
Hey, Locals... What's the weather like?

Weather dot wrong was saying something in the 40s with 20 MPH winds...

Is that so?

guttle11
04-16-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey, Locals... What's the weather like?

Weather dot wrong was saying something in the 40s with 20 MPH winds...

Is that so?

Sounds about right.

Cyclone792
04-16-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey, Locals... What's the weather like?

Weather dot wrong was saying something in the 40s with 20 MPH winds...

Is that so?

Temperatures low 50s, sunny, and strong wind gusts of 20+mph from the northwest. If the winds inside the park are blowing in the same direction, then they'll be blowing out to center field.

oneupper
04-16-2007, 05:44 PM
Wind+Milton = :help:

James B.
04-16-2007, 05:44 PM
Conine drove in the only run yesterday and is the only right hander hitting so far this year. I have no problem with him batting 4th right now.

Stamford
04-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Call me crazy, but I think this is the night we see David Ross start to come out of the season-long doldrums. I could even see a dinger out of him as Crapuano (yes, that is intended) tries to sneak something by him. The question will be whether Milton can even keep us in the game. The answer, unfortunately, is probably not. I see a 7-5 (or 8-6) type game. We do a little more than expected offensively, but Milton blows chunks. I could see him giving up 4 runs in the first 5 innings and looking like garbage in doing so, but Jerry runs him out there in the 6th and he gives up a handful more before you blink. You know...normal stuff. :p:

Call me Nostradamus. ;)

Hoosier Red
04-16-2007, 06:26 PM
As long as EE is hitting the way he is and Conine is hitting the way he is, Conine should be the clean up hitter against a lefty. He is the only right hander that has given consistent quality at bats against a lefty in this young season. I love EE and he is going to come around and start mashing, but the Reds can't afford to have him throwing away at bats the way he has done the past week in the number 4 hole.

I wouldn't worry about it, just a young guy who's frustrated. I'd hardly call it a temper tantrum, I don't think he even got run for it.

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 06:30 PM
I think EE tries too hard sometimes. I've seen him get some pitches he would usually mash for a double, either go back to the screen or he just completely swings and misses. He is trying to get 4 hits and 3 doubles every at bat. He's pulling out and trying to pull everything. He just needs to relax and take the ball to all fields like he did last year.

The good thing is he is playing flawless defense.

Same thing goes for Phillips. He's not hitting well, but he is walking much more then he did last year.

VR
04-16-2007, 06:31 PM
Im kind of surprised he wasnt tossed from the game for throwing his helmet.

Give Jerry the Oscar for that one...he protected EE quite well.

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 06:37 PM
I'm sorry but I'm predicting a blow out in favor of the Brewers

Chip R
04-16-2007, 06:40 PM
I'm sorry but I'm predicting a blow out in favor of the Brewers


Doesn't look good, does it? Of course it didn't look good for the Nats last week when they had a guy with an ERA over 9 facing off against John Smoltz. Turns out the Nats ended up winning 2-0. So you never know.

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 06:41 PM
Doesn't look good, does it? Of course it didn't look good for the Nats last week when they had a guy with an ERA over 9 facing off against John Smoltz. Turns out the Nats ended up winning 2-0. So you never know.

When Eric Milton is on you mound you have an idea.

Wheelhouse
04-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Here's a good game thread read from the other side. They even have a link to RedsZone. :clap:

http://p092.ezboard.com/41607-Brewers-Capuano--Reds-Milton-610-PM-CDT/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm24.showMessage?topicID=375.t opic

Now that's a thread!

SirFelixCat
04-16-2007, 06:44 PM
I like that Conine is batting cleanup the way he's been playing vs lefties. I've about given up any time Milton pitches, I truly count is as a "L". We can hope though....

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 06:48 PM
I strongly dislike the Brewers...just thought I'd clear that up.

Reds Freak
04-16-2007, 06:48 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, just a young guy who's frustrated. I'd hardly call it a temper tantrum, I don't think he even got run for it.

Ha, I think you might have misunderstood my post. I said the Reds can't afford to have him throw away at bats the way he has the past week. I didn't mean they can't have him throwing bats. I'm not worried at all, he's still young, but you can't have a guy in the middle of your order who hasn't given you a quality at bat in over a week.

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 06:51 PM
Milton is 4-3 against the Brewers in his career. Not that that matters too much

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 06:53 PM
Bad start for Milton = DL.

MartyFan
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
I strongly dislike the Brewers...just thought I'd clear that up.

I'm a Reds fan through and through. I have a soft spot for the Brewers. When I was a kid I got to go to Cleveland and sit anywhere I wanted in old Municipal Stadium to watch Harvey's Wall Bangers simply kill the hated TRIBE...My sister was a roommate of one of the players sisters...so, I got to meet the team too....got a signed ball and the whole deal.

Fullboat
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Bad start for Milton = DL.

Ha! arm falls of =DL

MartyFan
04-16-2007, 06:59 PM
Bad start for Milton = DL.

I hope he gives up 6 runs in the first...so that he is pulled...then I hope Cappy comes out and gives up 8 and then it is a pitchers battle from the 3rd inning on.

cincy09
04-16-2007, 07:01 PM
I hope he gives up 6 runs in the first...so that he is pulled...then I hope Cappy comes out and gives up 8 and then it is a pitchers battle from the 3rd inning on.

I sure would hate to see the bullpen eaten up like that today.

We don't have an off day for a while.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:04 PM
Brace yourselves!!

:scared:

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:05 PM
ok now it's game time LOL
i just ordered some larosas :beerme:

i would like to see hamilton get a start in cf

but i guess this is freels day.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:06 PM
ok now it's game time LOL
i just ordered some larosas :beerme:



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REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:09 PM
which way is the wind blowing tonight?

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:10 PM
Milton hasn't pitched in 8 days...hopefully he's had productive work on the side......productive for him, anyway.

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:13 PM
conine and phillips seem to like to joke at each other.

vaticanplum
04-16-2007, 07:13 PM
I strongly dislike the Brewers...just thought I'd clear that up.

I never minded the Brewers until last year when it felt like we played them 200 times. I'm completely convinced that we played them twice as much as any other NL Central team; I don't care what the schedule says. It feels like we've already played them about six times this year.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:14 PM
nice grab


no somebody tell me, which way is the wind blowing?

vaticanplum
04-16-2007, 07:14 PM
nice grab


no somebody tell me, which way is the wind blowing?

It doesn't matter. If the wind is blowing straight into the dugout, they will still knock them into Kentucky with Milton pitching.

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
that was close milton!

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
Hall up runner on 1st. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
A lot of fans dressed as empty seats, tonight - they must not want free baseballs

VR
04-16-2007, 07:16 PM
Bullpen is rested. Have Saarloos ready in the 5th to go 3.

MrCinatit
04-16-2007, 07:16 PM
Milton very distracted by the runner on first. Very distracted.

He got the first two guys out. Can we take him out and put the real pitcher in, now?

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:17 PM
with milton pitching most of the seats wanted to dress like brick walls to protect themselves!

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:17 PM
A lot of fans dressed as empty seats, tonight - they must not want free baseballs

nicely done.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:17 PM
already the first, and i dont miss george grand and chris welsh

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:17 PM
Milton hasn't hit 90 yet....there isn't a change up on the world that's gonna make him look 10 mph faster than 88....

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:18 PM
already the first, and i dont miss george grand and chris welsh

Is it Thom and Jeff, tonight? I wasn't even paying attention to the pregame show in mute.

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:19 PM
Hall is seeing alot of pitches for someone who is slumping...

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:19 PM
yup

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:19 PM
Maybe it needs to be stickied... Boss said whoever creates a gamethread has the responsiblity to make sure both line-ups are in that first post. It's really annoying when they aren't.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:20 PM
nice AB for Hall

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:20 PM
Ned Yost to Hall in the dugout.."just keep fouling pitches off if you have to, you'll get a meatball soon enough if he doesn't walk you."

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:20 PM
I'd love to have Hall in a Reds uniform...

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:21 PM
I'd love Milton in another uniform....

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:21 PM
what is Hall's contract situation? i would also love to see him in a Reds uni.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:21 PM
Scouting report on milton.

Sit on one pitch, wait for it, and crush it when you see it. If not, you'll prob be walked before you strike out.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
Milton is a joke....25 pitch inning

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
Milton has 25 pitches already

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
Milty looks exhausted already.

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
HIGH pitch count

if milton can go 4 innings with 3 runs or less, for him that would be good.

MrCinatit
04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
Milton's on a 30-pitch limit today, right?

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Junior looked nonchalant on that one

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Griffey....nice.

:bang:

MrCinatit
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Junior...that was brutal.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
great play....:thumbdown

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
man griffey doesnt like milton either

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
I blame Milton.

:lol:

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:24 PM
Griffey's had his struggles so far in right......adjustment period, perhaps...

I will hold off on final judgement for now.

cincy09
04-16-2007, 07:24 PM
Conspiracy against Milty????

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:24 PM
Junior looked nonchalant on that one

That is what I wanted to type but I did not know how to spell it!!!:D

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Are we ever going to get to bat?

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
That is what I wanted to type but I did not know how to spell it!!!:D

:D :D

You could have just said he looked like Randolph Morris out there. Same thing. :laugh:

Cyclone792
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Milton's fastball just has nothing on it. It's straight, it's up in the zone, and FSN Ohio has it at only 86-89mph. It's just a matter of time before it gets crushed. Bill Hall already crushed one 370 feet down the left field line, but luckily it went foul by only about 10 feet.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Has anyone in the history of baseball gave up as many runs as Milton has with 2 outs.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
91 on the gun that time.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Griffey woulda caught that with some spring practice.

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Junior is looking like Mays in a Mets uniform.

cincy09
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
He swung at ball 4

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
ERIC...MILTON...SUCKS! Wow, I cannot believe the upper levels of this organization chose to send him out there every 5th day. I mean, it literally boggles my mind!

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I will bet anyone $100 that Narron will not bench Junior. I can not see the play, I am only reading your posts, but hey, Junior does not nonchalant at bats or plays. How dare you!

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
chuck norris woulda caught it

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
What was that, about 50 pitches that inning?

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Nonchalant? Please. He over ran it. It's a lack of experience of playing in right field. He's not used to the ball slicing on him they it often does down the lines. He should have had it, but he just over ran the ball. He even used two hands on that one, something he usually doesn't do. It was a bad play, but hardly from a lack of effort.

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
The ball must've had some funny bit of something on it... it's not often Jr overruns a ball......

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Has anyone in the history of baseball gave up as many runs as Milton has with 2 outs.

come on.......

even you arent that stupid to say something like this...

that was all on griffey.

CTA513
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Saarloos will probably get some work in later today after that 34 pitch 1st inning.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
100th post, somebody rep me.


I'd push Milton in a wheelbarrow as far as Seattle if they'd take him.........though I'd rather he go to an NL squad.

cincy09
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
Nonchalant? Please. He over ran it. It's a lack of experience of playing in right field. He's not used to the ball slicing on him they it often does down the lines. He should have had it, but he just over ran the ball. He even used two hands on that one, something he usually doesn't do. It was a bad play, but hardly from a lack of effort.

Perfect description of what happened.

Puffy
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
Junior was not nonchalant on that one. He misplayed it because of the slice it had on it. He will be the first to tell you he screwed up, but not out of nonchalantness

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
ERIC...MILTON...SUCKS! Wow, I cannot believe the upper levels of this organization chose to send him out there every 5th day. I mean, it literally boggles my mind!

I really feel bad for the guy. Granted he goes home to this Scrooge-McDuck type gold vault and swims through his money, but you can't help but feel bad for Milton...he's washed up and surely he knows it.

M2
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
I'll give Milton credit, I thought for sure that Mench was going to take him deep. Though, with 34 pitches in the 1st, Milton could implode early in this game.

jfar23
04-16-2007, 07:28 PM
Freel fails at lead off. What is he doing swinging at the first pitch so much lately.

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:29 PM
I will bet anyone $100 that Narron will not bench Junior. I can not see the play, I am only reading your posts, but hey, Junior does not nonchalant at bats or plays. How dare you!

It wasn't nonchalant. He doesn't deserve to be benched. He dropped the ball, it happens. He over ran it, it wasn't like he was lazy and didn't hustle to get in position.

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:29 PM
Junior was not nonchalant on that one. He misplayed it because of the slice it had on it. He will be the first to tell you he screwed up, but not out of nonchalantness

Nonchalance. :mooner:

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:29 PM
alright BP!

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
Can someone tell us all how many years Junior has been playing baseball in the outfield? Yea, moving to right field is the reason he made a mistake. :rolleyes:

Cedric
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
Eric Milton starting a major league game is just hilarious. The guy is a power pitcher with absolutely no velocity. He wasn't even good when he threw hard, what should make anyone think he could get anyone out now?

You might as well get Rob Dibble back and let him close. It's just pathetic.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
It wasn't nonchalant. He doesn't deserve to be benched. He dropped the ball, it happens. He over ran it, it wasn't like he was lazy and didn't hustle to get in position.

Bench him for over-hustle :D

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
come on.......

even you arent that stupid to say something like this...

that was all on griffey.


Let's keep this civil, folks.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
come on.......

even you arent that stupid to say something like this...

that was all on griffey.


what does that mean, "even you aren't that stupid?"

I got chunks in my stool that know more about baseball than you....Milton gives up a TON of runs with two outs. It does not matter if they are earned or not.

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
It wasn't nonchalant. He doesn't deserve to be benched. He dropped the ball, it happens. He over ran it, it wasn't like he was lazy and didn't hustle to get in position.

Bad play by Jr. thats all...just misplayed I do wish he would get the ball back in as fast as he did after that play. He is non-chalant about getting the ball back to the infield on most occasions.

TOBTTReds
04-16-2007, 07:31 PM
Freel fails at lead off. What is he doing swinging at the first pitch so much lately.

Don't know. He's driving me crazy with that. Our 1 and 2 guys are done with their AB's after 3 or 4 pitches.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:31 PM
100th post, somebody rep me.


I'd push Milton in a wheelbarrow as far as Seattle if they'd take him.........though I'd rather he go to an NL squad.

Watch what you say about "those". I'm not even going to say the real word because the last time I did...well let's just say I damn near got banned.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:32 PM
if phillips gets picked off, ill be very upset

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:32 PM
Seriously, I want me some Norris Hopper.

Junior should be benched for that play. Worse then what EE did.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
Watch what you say about "those". I'm not even going to say the real word because the last time I did...well let's just say I damn near got banned.


thanks for the heads up. My first 100 posts were a warm-up. No more rookie mistakes for me.

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
Bad play by Jr. thats all...just misplayed I do wish he would get the ball back in as fast as he did after that play. He is non-chalant about getting the ball back to the infield on most occasions.

No he's not.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
Can someone tell us all how many years Junior has been playing baseball in the outfield? Yea, moving to right field is the reason he made a mistake. :rolleyes:

....good point...he's been playing the outfield for a long LONG time...now that you realize that you made that point clear...think about how many times he's messed up in his career...

...the answer: NOT MANY! He messed up and overplayed the ball, give him a break.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
Seriously, I want me some Norris Hopper.

Junior should be benched for that play. Worse then what EE did.

For what? He misjudged a ball (it sucks, but it happens to the best), but he didn't stand there and let if fall, either...

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
what does that mean, "even you aren't that stupid?"

I got chunks in my stool that know more about baseball than you....Milton gives up a TON of runs with two outs. It does not matter if they are earned or not.

it means while milton does SUCK you cant blame milton for that run

i wasnt calling you stupid :thumbup:

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:33 PM
Seriously, I want me some Norris Hopper.

Junior should be benched for that play. Worse then what EE did.

What are you watching? Are you serious? I hope that was sarcasm.

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Can someone tell us all how many years Junior has been playing baseball in the outfield? Yea, moving to right field is the reason he made a mistake. :rolleyes:

RF is different than CF. Especially when it comes off the bat of a right handed hitter. Whether you wan't to believe it or not is up to you. I would like to know how a guy who over runs a ball is considered to be lazy.

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
For what? He misjudged a ball (it sucks, but it happens to the best), but he didn't stand there and let if fall, either...
He didn't misjudge it. He lollygagged over there and it hit him in the glove. IT HIT HIM IN THE GLOVE.

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
....good point...he's been playing the outfield for a long LONG time...now that you realize that you made that point clear...think about how many times he's messed up in his career...

...the answer: NOT MANY! He messed up and overplayed the ball, give him a break.


Why? because his name is Junior? You guys bash Milton just for pitching, but say the word Junior and it is off limits. That is being hypocritical! Sorry, but it is.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Corey Hart looks like Duane Allmann

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
random add to the board here......

Just tried it for the first time.

Goose Island's 312 Urban Wheat Ale is by far and away the best beer I've ever tasted. Hard to believe it was made in Chicago, but if you live on the West Side, Country Fresh Market off of Glenway carries it, so you don't have to drive as far.


that will be all.

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
No he's not.

I've seen him do it. He rarely takes a shot at gunning people down. Even if there's just a small chance he'll get the runner I'd like to see attempt it a little more often. Thats what I was talking about.

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 07:37 PM
He didn't misjudge it. He lollygagged over there and it hit him in the glove. IT HIT HIM IN THE GLOVE.

That is key here....it did hit his glove. That somewhat deflates the "he moved to RF" defense. He just botched the play.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:37 PM
Why? because his name is Junior? You guys bash Milton just for pitching, but say the word Junior and it is off limits. That is being hypocritical! Sorry, but it is.



It's not being hypocritical at all...not AT ALL. He made a valid effort toward the ball. Yes, it hit him in the glove...as he was moving his body and glove backward after over pursuing the hit.

Puffy
04-16-2007, 07:37 PM
Seriously, I want me some Norris Hopper.

Junior should be benched for that play. Worse then what EE did.

Yes, yes he should. For overrunning a tailing linedrive that was slicing, Junior should be benched.

Once again, you've got your finger on the pulse of things.

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:37 PM
RF is different than CF. Especially when it comes off the bat of a right handed hitter. Whether you wan't to believe it or not is up to you. I would like to know how a guy who over runs a ball is considered to be lazy.

I didn't call him lazy, I posted I could not see the play and I am reading what people are posting. Maybe you should take it up with them, but I will say this he does nonchalant alot of plays. Pull your Red Rosie colored glasses off and call it as you see it and not as a Junior Homer.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:38 PM
where is Hart's sunglasses?:D

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:38 PM
He didn't misjudge it. He lollygagged over there and it hit him in the glove. IT HIT HIM IN THE GLOVE.

He over ran it, it hit his glove BEHIND him

Cedric
04-16-2007, 07:38 PM
Can this even be called a game thread? Not whining or playing board cop, just wondering if we can have the game involved in this thread at all.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:38 PM
where is Hart's sunglasses?:D

Not quite night yet

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
He struck him out! I smell Cy Young

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Milton goes 3-0 on Hart and strikes him out.

Puffy
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Why? because his name is Junior? You guys bash Milton just for pitching, but say the word Junior and it is off limits. That is being hypocritical! Sorry, but it is.

You said yourself you didn't even see the play.

I'm glad you can make these judgments based on not seeing things.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
you should never serrender...corey....:D

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Why? because his name is Junior? You guys bash Milton just for pitching, but say the word Junior and it is off limits. That is being hypocritical! Sorry, but it is.

I just don't think the error was due to lack of effort...

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Struck out looking by Milton. Hart'll be fined by the Brewer's Kangaroo Court.

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
It's not being hypocritical at all...not AT ALL. He made a valid effort toward the ball. Yes, it hit him in the glove...as he was moving his body and glove backward after over pursuing the hit.
A valid effort toward the ball? Why because he actually moved toward it? He walked over there nonchallantly (sp?) and it hit him in the glove.

If Dunn did that he would be getting toasted. If Edwin dropped a pop up, Freel would be at 3rd tomorrow.

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:40 PM
It's not being hypocritical at all...not AT ALL. He made a valid effort toward the ball. Yes, it hit him in the glove...as he was moving his body and glove backward after over pursuing the hit.

Milton is not making a valant effort at pitching? Should he be over pursuing during this time in his career? I know, he is human, well, so is Milton.

jojo
04-16-2007, 07:40 PM
Milton goes 3-0 on Hart and strikes him out.

The final pitch was a gift though...

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:40 PM
Its gonna be a 3 inning game for uncle milty tonight.

Puffy
04-16-2007, 07:41 PM
He over ran it, it hit his glove BEHIND him

Quit making sense Matt. Facts are not welcome on game threads lately.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:41 PM
Haha...ok...just shut up about the Junior mistake. On with the game...

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:41 PM
that crowd is horrible...they had more there when it was snowing.

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:41 PM
that has got to tickle

Eric_Davis
04-16-2007, 07:41 PM
It's not being hypocritical at all...not AT ALL. He made a valid effort toward the ball. Yes, it hit him in the glove...as he was moving his body and glove backward after over pursuing the hit.

Junior made the Error, not Milton.

Milton was fine in the first. You can't give a team four outs.

That was a heck of an at-bat by Hall, by the way, who's been struggling mightily.

Milton's changeups and sliders have been 18-20 MPH less than his fastball. That works no matter what speed your fastball is, but your defense has to make the plays they're supposed to make.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:42 PM
A valid effort toward the ball? Why because he actually moved toward it? He walked over there nonchallantly (sp?) and it hit him in the glove.

If Dunn did that he would be getting toasted. If Edwin dropped a pop up, Freel would be at 3rd tomorrow.

First, it wasn't a pop up....second, how did the ball hit behind him if he didn't give an effort....maybe he shouldn't have moved...

I'm not defending junior, it was a bad play, but it wasn't because he didn't try...

NJReds
04-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Its gonna be a 3 inning game for uncle milty tonight.

He looks scared out there...nibbling on every pitch. He has no confidence in his stuff, nor should he.

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:42 PM
You said yourself you didn't even see the play.

I'm glad you can make these judgments based on not seeing things.

Sorry, but I have seen many plays by Junior and can judge this by actually seeing him play before and from what others post. It is not that hard. I believe the people who said he was nonchalant. Oh well.

George Foster
04-16-2007, 07:42 PM
50 pitches for Cy so far tonight.

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
A valid effort toward the ball? Why because he actually moved toward it? He walked over there nonchallantly (sp?) and it hit him in the glove.

If Dunn did that he would be getting toasted. If Edwin dropped a pop up, Freel would be at 3rd tomorrow.

and now back to the game... we got ERIC MILTON DEALING! 50 pitches in 1.1

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
51 pitches now.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
50 pitches for Milton in the second inning.

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
Junior getting a bronx cheer for catching the fly-out.

RedRage
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
13 pages now how about an actual game update for those of us at work.
:rolleyes:

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
First, it wasn't a pop up....second, how did the ball hit behind him if he didn't give an effort....maybe he shouldn't have moved...

I'm not defending junior, it was a bad play, but it wasn't because he didn't try...
It was a lackluster effort to say the least.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
Griffey with a lack of effort catch to get the second out.

Chip R
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
Good Lord, Milton's pitching Friday?!! :eek:

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:43 PM
bronx cheer for Jr

WVRedsFan
04-16-2007, 07:44 PM
A valid effort toward the ball? Why because he actually moved toward it? He walked over there nonchallantly (sp?) and it hit him in the glove.

If Dunn did that he would be getting toasted. If Edwin dropped a pop up, Freel would be at 3rd tomorrow.

Wow. Junior ran to the ball with the ball slicing just as he got to it. The ball hit the glove low, the worst place to have a ball hit and he dropped it. How many balls have you seen Junior drop. I'm sure there are some, but I haven't seen it. It's way overboard to say he walked over there nonchallantyly.

Now back to the game.

KronoRed
04-16-2007, 07:44 PM
It takes real skill to throw that many pitches and not allow that many hits

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:44 PM
C'mon Junior, make up that boo boo

cReds1
04-16-2007, 07:44 PM
Every blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then. :D

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Capuano K's to end the Brewer's second.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Not to change the subject of the stupid argument if Griffey tried or didn't try to catch a fly ball...continued thoughts and prayers to Gonzo and his family...

Anybody know what is wrong with his son?

KronoRed
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Good Lord, Milton's pitching Friday?!! :eek:

That should be against the law.

guttle11
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Folks, errors are a part of the game. Call me when Junior makes repeated errors.

Eric_Davis
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Junior getting a bronx cheer for catching the fly-out.


That tells you what the fans who were in attendance thought of his effort on the last one.

uks2h
04-16-2007, 07:46 PM
It was a lackluster effort to say the least.

Is the effort ever good enough for ya? :rolleyes:

redsrule2500
04-16-2007, 07:46 PM
Ryan Freel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

CTA513
04-16-2007, 07:46 PM
Its gonna be a 3 inning game for uncle milty tonight.

He might get in 4 innings if he keeps throwing the number of pitchers per inning that he has in the first 2 innings.

Puffy
04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Reds fans. I'd like to thank alot of the people on this thread for that.

I miss Stormy and Raisor and intelligent conversation

Cedric
04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
Marty and Joe both stated that Griffey just over ran the first ball. Errors are part of baseball.

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
Personally, I thought Junior had more time to get well-positioned to make the catch easier for himself. He "takes his time" getting under flyballs/making catches all the time, this time it just happened to bite him in the butt.

Nonchalant doesn't mean lazy; just that he didn't put himself into a prime spot to make the catch as easy as it should have been.

redsgabp
04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
i just want to say one more time.

i'm sorry if i offended anybody.

i'm sorry i used a expression that went over your heads.
no pun intended.

but now i have this 20% warning for IMHO doing nothing.

so i think i will retire from game threads from now on.

i never thought i would be treated like i was in school. LOL

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Man, with a little effort, Griffey may have had a homer instead of hitting it to the deepest part of the park.




Ok, I'll stop now :)

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Jr. leads off the inning with a fly out to the warning track.

Eric_Davis
04-16-2007, 07:49 PM
It takes real skill to throw that many pitches and not allow that many hits

Actually, it does....means you're around the plate, but keeping the hitters off-balance enough that they can't get good contact.

Milton knows his limitations and he's pitching to them...tossing in a good mix of changeups, sliders, slow-curves (even a 61-MPH curve that was fouled off0, fast-curves, and fastballs (88-91).

He's doing what he can, and I wish people here would stop *****ing about him and respect that he's doing the best he can.

RedRage
04-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Well according to yahoo brewers are up 1-0 on us. Thought I would throw that in there for people wanting an update. I will be on yahoo rest of the night I guess. Try the game thread again tomorrow.:thumbdown

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Brantley: "Not many teams have a utility player that can do the things that Castro can do."

Do what, exactly? Suck wind? :laugh:

KronoRed
04-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Man, with a little effort, Griffey may have had a homer instead of hitting it to the deepest part of the park.




Ok, I'll stop now :)

What a slacker!

WVRedsFan
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Reds fans. I'd like to thank alot of the people on this thread for that.

I miss Stormy and Raisor and intelligent conversation

Not that I'm capable of any, but I agree and where the heck are they anyway?

Just mystified that Juan Castro has started the 4 games since Gonzo was granted leave.

Grounds_Crew
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
i just want to say one more time.

i'm sorry if i offended anybody.

i'm sorry i used a expression that went over your heads.
no pun intended.

but now i have this 20% warning for IMHO doing nothing.

so i think i will retire from game threads from now on.

i never thought i would be treated like i was in school. LOL


You should be used to that by now on RedsZone. I have a 20% warning as well for something that I've said a million times on other message boards. You're going to be scolded for anything and everything on this site...with that said, I still love it!


Now...finally...can we shut up about Griffey's play?

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Fidel walks

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Wow...almost!

Damn that sunglasses at night guy!!!

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
EE out on a hard linedrive to the ss and castro walks... 2 down 1 on

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
dang it!

Degenerate39
04-16-2007, 07:50 PM
I thought Ross had a homer right there

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
David Ross robbed of a homer by Corey Hart. Inning over

Puig Your Red
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Edwin and Ross are having some awful luck.

KYRed
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Hart is ripping out his namesake! Man that hurts, Ross needed that bad!

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Hart just robbed ross of a HR

guttle11
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Ross just can't catch a break. He tagged that one, and to the opposite field. That's a good sign. He'd been pulling off everything.

He hits a HR in his next AB. That's my guess.

OesterPoster
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Wow. When you're in a slump, stuff like that happens. Good swing by Ross though, which was the only positive out of that.

Razor Shines
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Personally, I thought Junior had more time to get well-positioned to make the catch easier for himself. He "takes his time" getting under flyballs/making catches all the time, this time it just happened to bite him in the butt.

Nonchalant doesn't mean lazy; just that he didn't put himself into a prime spot to make the catch as easy as it should have been.

Watch the replay. That's not what happened. He was moving full speed one way, then had to stop and go back the other way, it was a line drive, not a fly ball.

redsrule2500
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
unlucky.

MrCinatit
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Wow...the Reds are taking this guy deep, but not quite deep enough.
Could be interesting the second time the lineup goes through this guy.

cincy09
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Poor David Ross, that sucked!

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:52 PM
on ze bright side, we are hitting the ball right on the screws. that'll bite Capuano later on....I hope

Cedric
04-16-2007, 07:52 PM
Actually, it does....means you're around the plate, but keeping the hitters off-balance enough that they can't get good contact.

Milton knows his limitations and he's pitching to them...tossing in a good mix of changeups, sliders, slow-curves (even a 61-MPH curve that was fouled off0, fast-curves, and fastballs (88-91).

He's doing what he can, and I wish people here would stop *****ing about him and respect that he's doing the best he can.

I couldn't care less about his effort. I don't want him within five miles of the pitchers mound.

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2007, 07:52 PM
I think the Reds are like a volcano--about the 4th or 5th inning their offense will erupt. Hopefully, by then Capt. Kirk will be on the mound.

ThatPitchIsDunn
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
I know the old adage of you make your own luck, but come on!

Milton gets a fly ball to right to get out of the first...and Griffey misplays it. There's a run for the Brew Crew.

D-Ross finally crushes a pitch and Hart makes a great retreating jumping catch.

I'm not defending Milton; it just seems like the Brewers love to do this to us.

WMR
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Watch the replay. That's not what happened. He was moving full speed one way, then had to stop and go back the other way, it was a line drive, not a fly ball.

I watched it a few times. I'm not someone who dogs Junior all the time or anything. JMHO on that play.

Brisco
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Reds fans. I'd like to thank alot of the people on this thread for that.

I miss Stormy and Raisor and intelligent conversation

Puffy, speaking of intelligent conversation, in yesterday's thread you offered 1:1 odds that Lohse would give up at least 5 ER in his next start... I accepted that bet, but I am still waiting on terms.

For the record, and to show you all the depths of my insanity, after finally getting to see some video of Lohse pitching this Spring I made a somewhat substantial with my wife's brother that Lohse would have more wins this year than Arroyo... I made this bet preseason... and I actually really like Arroyo.

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
you guys are awful... lol. I'm not anywhere close to being a Griffey fan, can't wait to see him off of the books personally, but get off of him for the dropped ball. It wasn't from loafing, it was from not having enough reps at RF to learn how to properly read the ball. Anybody who has ever played in the outfield knows that the ball reacts differently depending on which side you're playing.

That being said, he'd make a fine DH.

jfar23
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Every Reds hitter who has made contact has tagged the ball tonight.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Can Milton pitch to Reds hitters?

Griffey and Ross would have both homered :D

kaldaniels
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
I was amazed by Thom saying that Vin Scully said in his 60 years of covering the Dodgers, he has never had as much regret as when they let Juan Castro go.

thatcoolguy_22
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
IF Milton can pitch 6 innings a game for the next 28 starts with a 26 pitch count per inning he would have thrown over 1200 pitches this season... And at 9.5 mil this year it works out to be $8,000 a pitch. I like to look at it that way :) Completely unreasonable and ridiculous but he is DEALING today people DEALING!!!! another homer

redsman12
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Anybody listening to this praising of Juan Castro? The announcers stated Vin Scully said in his 60 years of broadcasting the Dodgers it was the most regrettable day when Juan left.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
it begins...

REDblooded
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
stop running guys, it's gone.

MrCinatit
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
There's that Milton guy.

KYRed
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
And so it begins.

OesterPoster
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
...and there's the Eric Milton we know and love. :(

sonny
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Weeks HR. so long Cy Young