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Highlifeman21
04-23-2007, 12:52 PM
Disclaimer: This is not intended to be a complaint and or rant.

We're two full seasons, and 19 games into a third removed from experiencing the Gold Standard @ SS for the Cincinnati Reds. A few of you may remember him, heck, you may even own a jersey with his name on it, or perhaps have a baseball card of his around the house or office somewhere. The player in question: Barry Larkin.

Reds fans have seen the likes of Rich Aurilia, William Bergolla, Juan Castro, Royce Clayton, Felipe Lopez, Ray Olmedo, Brandon Phillips and now Alex Gonzalez man the SS position since Larkin. None have even come remotely close to duplicating his unique skillset of being both an offensive threat, while providing solid defense (at least up to probably 2001 for this one).

Currently, we have a glove man, with range, in Alex Gonzalez, who probably won't OPS much North of .700. Unfortunately, to compensate for the lack of offensive production, Gonzalez will need to win a Gold Glove at SS, or be a close runner up for many to feel that he's "earned" his money and "helped" the team. There's a lot of baseball left in 2007, so this remains to be seen.


Prior to Gonzalez, the above cast of characters honestly on some level left most of us missing Barry Larkin, the future HOF, and what he brought to our Reds. Only perhaps Brandon Phillips could offer superior defense at SS, but IIRC, we've only seen him play in a lackluster 3 games in 2 positions, and none of them starts, only as parts of double switches.

Where am I going with this? We currently have 1 player on the roster that shares something with Larkin, that being drafted and developed by the Reds. That player: Adam Dunn. While Larkin played from 1986 through 2004 for our Reds, Adam Dunn has a long way to go to match Larkin's contribution in longevity.

Here's to hoping the Reds get to enjoy another "Larkin" with Adam Dunn, and hopefully realize the future of potential "Larkins" in Jay Bruce and Homer Bailey.

Thank you Barry for spoiling us for all those years at SS. I know this Reds fan misses you greatly.

RedFanAlways1966
04-23-2007, 12:57 PM
Where am I going with this? We currently have 1 player on the roster that shares something with Larkin, that being drafted and developed by the Reds. That player: Adam Dunn.

Nice post and not trying to bring it down, but...

Todd Coffey was drafted by the REDS in the 41st round of the 1998 amateur draft.

:)

StillFunkyB
04-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Don't forget about that other guy that played before Larkin. He wasn't too shabby ;)

Big Klu
04-23-2007, 03:25 PM
Nice post and not trying to bring it down, but...

Todd Coffey was drafted by the REDS in the 41st round of the 1998 amateur draft.

:)

If you want to include players currently sidelined on the disabled list, then you can add Chris Denorfia to that list, too.

Big Klu
04-23-2007, 03:26 PM
Don't forget about that other guy that played before Larkin. He wasn't too shabby ;)

Kurt Stillwell? :D

TheBurn
04-23-2007, 04:14 PM
Don't forget about that other guy that played before Larkin. He wasn't too shabby ;)

Still the bestest...

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3217/concepciondaveqo1.jpg

Ltlabner
04-23-2007, 05:01 PM
Disclaimer: This is not intended to be a complain and or rant..

I like how you worked in subtle references to "the trade", the possibility of Dunn being traded, the host of crappy SS's we've had since Larkin and that Gonzo can't hit. Glad it isn't a rant! :evil:

All kidding aside, I agree with you. The Reds have had some spectacular short stops that held down the position for an insane number of years. Have a solid glove man with a wicked bat is something you come to take for granted, that is for sure.

redsrule2500
04-23-2007, 05:01 PM
I would like to think Reds fans were spoiled between 1970-1980...looks so awesome

redsmetz
04-23-2007, 09:02 PM
I would like to think Reds fans were spoiled between 1970-1980...looks so awesome

The Reds have been spoiled since the early 1950's when Roy McMillan started for the Redlegs - it's a succession nearly unbroken of four shortstops over nearly 50 years - I think there are few teams with that sort of continuity and talent over that length of time - each was an All Star at some point (27 different All Star appearances between McMillan, Cardenas, Concepcion & Larkin).

OnBaseMachine
04-23-2007, 09:07 PM
I greatly miss Barry Larkin. He's one of my top three favorite players of all-time and I can't wait to go see him inducted in the MLB Hall of Fame in 2010.

WVPacman
04-23-2007, 11:20 PM
I could be wrong but isn't Barry working in the Nationals organzation?? The reason I brung this up is every since the new owner for the reds took over the team,WHY has'nt he tried to get Larken back in the reds organzation.That would be awesome plus he deserves to come back home.

Hap
04-23-2007, 11:25 PM
Kurt Stillwell? :D

No

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/f0/03/86_1.JPG

http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/97/60/1faf_1_b.JPG

Redsland
04-24-2007, 09:29 AM
I could be wrong but isn't Barry working in the Nationals organzation?? The reason I brung this up is every since the new owner for the reds took over the team,WHY has'nt he tried to get Larken back in the reds organzation.
Yes, Barry is a Special Assistant to the General Manager of the Washington Nationals.

As such, the Reds would need permission from the Nationals to talk to Barry, otherwise they'd open themselves up to tampering charges.

Barry, it is thought, would be unlikely to return to the Reds as long as John Allen is around.