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TOBTTReds
04-29-2007, 12:15 AM
Adam Dunn is ranked 12th in the majors in stolen bases with 5. If you go by percentages, he is 5th with 5 attempts at 100%.

Sure, one was a piggy back off a double steal. But he has been a pretty good baserunner. Scored today from third on that dumb play by Paulino on the "Sac" bunt by Belisle. There was another play earlier this year where I remember mentioning his good baserunning, though I can't remember it right now.

So, maybe he hasn't been incredible at the plate right now, but he has done well in other areas that he hasn't always done well in like baserunning, and more surprisingly, fielding.

Ron Madden
04-29-2007, 12:17 AM
I like how he scores runs.

harangatang
04-29-2007, 01:29 AM
Maybe batting Dunn in the leadoff spot wasn't quite as absurd as some people thought back in 2003. If you did that though his RBI chances would go down batting behind the bottom of the order, but still it's interesting to kick around 4 years later. Dunn batting leadoff was due to his OBP and not his speed, but he did steal 19 bases in 2001.

HumnHilghtFreel
04-29-2007, 01:33 AM
There was another play earlier this year where I remember mentioning his good baserunning, though I can't remember it right now.


I think that might be the one where he got in the run-down to let Conine advance.

Overall I've liked what I've seen WHEN he's on the basepaths. He needs to work on being on them more often.

Ravenlord
04-29-2007, 01:42 AM
Overall I've liked what I've seen WHEN he's on the basepaths. He needs to work on being on them more often.
35.7% of the time this year, 37.9% of the time for his career.

HumnHilghtFreel
04-29-2007, 01:47 AM
35.7% of the time this year, 37.9% of the time for his career.

How dare you use statistics to show me I'm wrong! :)

RBA
04-29-2007, 01:49 AM
He needs to give Freel some lessons.

CTA513
04-29-2007, 02:35 AM
Hes only 72 away from the 77 he said he would steal this year.

:p:

KronoRed
04-29-2007, 03:15 AM
He should bat 2nd.

Ron Madden
04-29-2007, 03:32 AM
He should bat 2nd.

Every game. :beerme:

KronoRed
04-29-2007, 02:24 PM
Every game. :beerme:

So easy a cave man could see it :D

Ron Madden
04-29-2007, 02:26 PM
So easy a cave man could see it :D

Hey! I resemble that remark.

Matt700wlw
04-29-2007, 02:27 PM
Now, if he could just hit a sac fly...

KronoRed
04-29-2007, 02:32 PM
That's what Conine is for.

Highlifeman21
04-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Now, if he could just hit a sac fly...

I'd rather see him hit more rally-killing HRs

TeamBoone
04-29-2007, 07:25 PM
Dunn batting leadoff was due to his OBP and not his speed, but he did steal 19 bases in 2001.

For the Reds? Or for the Reds plus the Bats? He didn't even come up until August. So if it was for the Reds, that's pretty darn good.




Now, if he could just hit a sac fly...

Like today's? Even though the runner was on first instead of third? And not in scoring position?

Redsland
04-29-2007, 08:13 PM
For the Reds? Or for the Reds plus the Bats?
For the Reds, but it was actually in 2002, when he played 158 games up here.

For the record, he stole 15 bases in 2001 at Chattanooga, Louisville, and Cincinnati. Four of those were with the big club.

James B.
04-29-2007, 08:26 PM
The homerun he hit today was on a 3-0 count. I bet Thom B. was ticked off that Dunn was hacking on that pitch.

Redsland
04-29-2007, 11:13 PM
Thom kills me with that stuff too, plus his "first pitch hacking" gripe. Those are two counts in which you've got a real solid chance of seeing a fastball down broadway. So if you do, in fact, see a pitch you think you can drive, go for it. They won't all be bombs, but that's baseball.

jmcclain19
04-30-2007, 02:22 AM
Just pointing this out - Dunn had more than 20SB in a season twice in his minor league career and had 19 his rookie year.

TOBTTReds
05-01-2007, 09:54 PM
Chalk another up. 6 now, and he scored on the Ross single.

AmarilloRed
05-02-2007, 01:22 AM
He will steal 30 at this rate. 6 each month!:dunn:

KronoRed
05-02-2007, 02:21 AM
30/30? ;)

NDRed
05-02-2007, 02:30 AM
30/30? ;)


Anybody done 50/30? HR/SB

AmarilloRed
05-02-2007, 02:34 PM
Im pretty sure Bonds did 50/50 one year before he had weight.If not he did 30/30 definitely and 40/40 Im pretty sure.

bucksfan2
05-02-2007, 02:49 PM
Im pretty sure Bonds did 50/50 one year before he had weight.If not he did 30/30 definitely and 40/40 Im pretty sure.

Bonds went 40/40 never 50/50. He never hit more than 50 hrs until his season of 73. Dunn should atleast have 20 stolen bases this year. The guy just knows how to pick his spots and is very successful. Maybe Freel should take lessons from the dunner when it comes to stolen bases.

RedsManRick
05-02-2007, 02:58 PM
The 30/30 for reference:



2006 Alfonso Soriano 46 41
2005 Alfonso Soriano 36 30
2004 Carlos Beltran 38 42
2004 Bobby Abreu 30 40
2003 Alfonso Soriano 38 35
2002 Alfonso Soriano 39 41
2002 Vladimir Guerrero 39 40
2001 Vladimir Guerrero 34 37
2001 Jose Cruz Jr. 34 32
2001 Bobby Abreu 31 36
2000 Preston Wilson 31 36
1999 Raul Mondesi 33 36
1999 Jeff Bagwell 42 30
1998 Alex Rodriguez 42 46
1998 Shawn Green 35 35
1997 Raul Mondesi 30 32
1997 Barry Bonds 40 37
1997 Jeff Bagwell 43 31
1997 Larry Walker 49 33
1996 Barry Larkin 33 36
1996 Ellis Burks 40 32
1996 Barry Bonds 42 40
1996 Dante Bichette 31 31
1995 Barry Bonds 33 31
1995 Sammy Sosa 36 34
1993 Sammy Sosa 33 36
1992 Barry Bonds 34 39
1991 Howard Johnson 38 30
1991 Ron Gant 32 34
1990 Barry Bonds 33 52
1990 Ron Gant 32 33
1989 Howard Johnson 36 41
1988 Jose Canseco 42 40
1987 Joe Carter 32 31
1987 Darryl Strawberry 39 36
1987 Howard Johnson 36 32
1987 Eric Davis 37 50
1983 Dale Murphy 36 30
1978 Bobby Bonds 31 43
1977 Bobby Bonds 37 41
1975 Bobby Bonds 32 30
1973 Bobby Bonds 39 43
1970 Tommy Harper 31 38
1969 Bobby Bonds 32 45
1963 Hank Aaron 44 31
1957 Willie Mays 35 38
1956 Willie Mays 36 40
1922 Kenny Williams 39 37

- Canseco was the first 40/40 guy.
- Bonds, ARod, and Soriano have done it since. Vlad missed by 1 HR.
- Larkin was the first 30/30 SS.
- 37 of the 48 30/30 seasons (77%) have occurred in the last 20 years.

The following people have done it more than once:


Barry Bonds 5
Bobby Bonds 5
Alfonso Soriano 4
Howard Johnson 3
Bobby Abreu 2
Jeff Bagwell 2
Willie Mays 2
Vlad Guerrero 2
Sammy Sosa 2
Raul Mondesi 2
Ron Gant 2

Nobody has gone even 50/25 before and only 3 of the greatest CF of all-time have gone 50/20:



1998 Ken Griffey Jr 56 20
1996 Brady Anderson 50 21 (yes, I was joking...)
1955 Willie Mays 51 24

Chip R
05-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Maybe Freel should take lessons from the dunner when it comes to stolen bases.


Problem is that when Freel gets on base, everyone and their brother expects him to steal. With Dunn, they don't expect it so much. It's the element of surprise.

TeamSelig
05-02-2007, 03:06 PM
I think I remember Dunn bragging & saying he would steal a bunch of bases (can't remember the exact number) last year, but it never happened much.

Redsland
05-02-2007, 04:12 PM
That was during spring training this year (http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070502/SPT05/705020331/1027).


He's not Ichiro, but Dunn's perfect at stealing bases

By C. Trent Rosecrans
Post staff reporter

HOUSTON - During spring training Reds left fielder Adam Dunn continually joked that he was going to "be Ichiro" this season, playing the small ball game perfected by the Mariners' Japanese star, Ichiro Suzuki.

So far in 2007, Dunn has lapped Suzuki on the base paths. The Reds slugger stole his sixth base of the season in Tuesday night's 11-2 victory over the Astros.

"Seventy-one more to go," Dunn said, referring to the goal of 77 stolen bases he jokingly set for himself in the spring.

mth123
05-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Problem is that when Freel gets on base, everyone and their brother expects him to steal. With Dunn, they don't expect it so much. It's the element of surprise.

That and Freel just doen't seem to be very good at reading pitchers. Gets picked-off, gets caught too frequently. I wish he wouldn't run.

AmarilloRed
05-03-2007, 01:58 AM
If I were a middle infielder, I would give up the base as defensive indiference. I would fear 260 pounds of Dunn coming at me!:yikes: