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HotCorner
05-09-2007, 04:38 PM
Reds
Hatteberg 1B
Phillips 2B
Griffey RF
Dunn LF
Gonzalez SS
Hamilton CF
Encarnacion 3B
Ross C
Belisle P

Astros
Biggio 2B
Ensberg 3B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Scott RF
Pence CF
Everett SS
Humbert Quintero C
Williams P

OesterPoster
05-09-2007, 04:38 PM
I've lost track. Have we seen this lineup yet this year?

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 04:39 PM
What difference does it make the offense has not been the problem for a while now.

membengal
05-09-2007, 04:40 PM
I've lost track. Have we seen this lineup yet this year?

Yes.

ncman31
05-09-2007, 04:41 PM
im just wondering, but does every MLB team have such a rotating lineup as the reds do?

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 05:07 PM
Let's one for the home team!

DannyB
05-09-2007, 05:09 PM
I would rather see Freel at 1st than Hatteberg leading off.
Oh well I probably will someday.:D

Reds Fanatic
05-09-2007, 05:13 PM
Brewers won again this afternoon. So the Reds start tonight 9.5 games back. They have to win tonight to avoid being 10 back already.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 05:19 PM
Brewers won again this afternoon. So the Reds start tonight 9.5 games back. They have to win tonight to avoid being 10 back already.

I called 10 back by Mothers day a while back so I'm feeling pretty good about my pick. :(

danken12
05-09-2007, 05:19 PM
Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

CTA513
05-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

Burtons also on his way up.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 05:22 PM
Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

In all honesty he should go to the DL and he should probably retire. Because he is injured and will probably never be healthy again. People talk about how he used to throw in the mid 90s, and well he's never going to throw that hard again because of his knee. He doesn't even look the same as he used to when pitching and it's because he can't drive toward the plate like he used to. It's too bad but it's the truth.

Reds Fanatic
05-09-2007, 05:24 PM
A lot of people in last night's game thread thought he would be headed to the DL and they were right. Left elbow strain is the official injury they are listing for Milton.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

Reds Fanatic
05-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Milton's turn would have came up Sunday in LA. Be interesting to see who gets the start.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 05:27 PM
Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

Either that or they'll make another move before Sunday.

TRF
05-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

I hope not. I'd rather see Livingston or Dumatrait. Just not Bailey. Not yet.

flyer85
05-09-2007, 05:30 PM
Burtons also on his way up.I guess someone/everyone in the bullpen is auditioning until Sunday unless Saarloos goes into the rotation.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Either that or they'll make another move before Sunday.

Bullpen could blow up again (which is likely) and somebody could be bye bye to make room for Burton......and then another starter could come up.

Should be interesting.

Big Klu
05-09-2007, 05:45 PM
I kinda like this lineup. I figured that Freel would be getting the night off.

Hatteberg doen't have much speed, but he did a really good job of getting on base the last time he hit lead-off.

I really like Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back. It doesn't bother me that they are both lefties. (Just like it didn't bother Chuck Tanner to hit Dave Parker and Willie Stargell in the #3-4 spots for the Pirates back in the 70's.)

OesterPoster
05-09-2007, 05:53 PM
I think Dumatrait is scheduled to pitch tomorrow night for Louisville, so need to keep an eye on if he actually starts that game. Bailey should be pitching Saturday, with Livingston's scheduled start being Sunday for Louisville.

Jharb74
05-09-2007, 05:56 PM
Bullpen could blow up again (which is likely) and somebody could be bye bye to make room for Burton......and then another starter could come up.

Should be interesting.

It's almost like we can expect a blow up, again, this way it will hit Krivsky over the head that he has to make a move.

SirFelixCat
05-09-2007, 06:51 PM
Go Reds...

And I hope it's not Bailey...not yet.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:01 PM
Go Reds...

And I hope it's not Bailey...not yet.

Yeah, wait till June or so for Bailey.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:03 PM
Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:

and probably 9,000 fewer bets as well

cumberlandreds
05-09-2007, 07:07 PM
Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:


Pete would bet that he would go past him tonight. ;)

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:07 PM
Pete would bet that he would go past him tonight. ;)

Most likely :)

Spring~Fields
05-09-2007, 07:07 PM
I kinda like this lineup. I figured that Freel would be getting the night off.

Hatteberg doen't have much speed, but he did a really good job of getting on base the last time he hit lead-off.

I really like Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back. It doesn't bother me that they are both lefties. (Just like it didn't bother Chuck Tanner to hit Dave Parker and Willie Stargell in the #3-4 spots for the Pirates back in the 70's.)

I kind of like the lineup to. I think that it will be interesting to see how it does.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Biggio doubles. Griffey with a nice effort to get to that.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Great effort by Griffey.....

A little slow at getting up, but he appears ok.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Tell me that man doesn't hustle now!

Cyclone792
05-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Regarding the lineup ... it isn't exactly how I would set it up given the players starting tonight, but I am glad to see Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back in the #3 and #4 slots, especially with the way Griffey's been hitting recently.

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:13 PM
he sure was slow getting up from that play...i hope he's alright, especially since he's been on fire lately...

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Ensberg strikes out. 1 out

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:14 PM
Oh God its Berkman

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:16 PM
Berkman strikes out. 2 outs

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:16 PM
Nice

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:17 PM
Lee grounds out to Edwin. 3 outs.

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-09-2007, 07:18 PM
Nice. Love the way Belisle is attacking hitters. Three cheers for first pitch strikes.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:18 PM
Great job by Belisle. There was some filthieness to some of those pitches.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:20 PM
Hatte singles to left.

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:21 PM
Hatte singles...

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 07:22 PM
No complaint about the lineup. Griffey and Dunn 3/4 and both Hamilton and Edwin in there.

I wish BP was hitting lower though.

Hoosier Red
05-09-2007, 07:22 PM
No complaint about the lineup. Griffey and Dunn 3/4 and both Hamilton and Edwin in there.

I wish BP was hitting lower though.

Well no complaint lasted a line anyway.

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:22 PM
I really do like this line-up...

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:23 PM
BP singles to left.

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:23 PM
BP singles to left... nearly got by Lee... C'mon Griffey!

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:24 PM
I really do like this line-up...

It helps when Woody is pitching

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:26 PM
crap... nearly a 3-run shot...

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:26 PM
wow... now Griffey misses a 3-run shot to right...

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Griffey is swinging the ball flawlessly right now...what a swing!

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Great AB for Griffey right here...

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Griffey K's...

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Griffey strikes out 1 out

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:28 PM
Dunn looking fastball right there..

paintmered
05-09-2007, 07:28 PM
Let's limit the play-by-play to a single poster.

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:28 PM
Griffey is swinging the ball flawlessly right now...what a swing!

swinging the ball;)

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:29 PM
swinging the ball;)

Yeah, that too....

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Dunn just misses the 3 run-shot to center... Runners advance, 2nd and 3rd w/ Gonzo up...

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Dunner is strong like bull

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:31 PM
Woody's fastball just hit 81...

That's Milton-esque.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:31 PM
I kinda hope Gonzo walks here.

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:31 PM
3-1... I'd love Hamilton vs Woody w/ the bases jacked...

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Woody's fastball just hit 81...

That's Milton-esque.

That was a change up, but his best it 88-89 and that's Milton-esque.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:32 PM
That was a change up, but his best it 88-89 and that's Milton-esque.

That's no better :D

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Gonzo walks... surprisingly, Woody wanted no part of Gonzo, I guess Ham-bone will have to make him pay!

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Hello, Josh. :)

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
good play by Everett to strand 3... shew

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Why did he swing at the first pitch? Woody's been all over the place.


Bad Josh :nono:

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Swung at a first pitch breaking ball. I have no problem with him swinging first pitch if it's pitch that he can drive, I don't think that was it.

chisdad
05-09-2007, 07:34 PM
Take a pitch!!!!!!:bang:

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:34 PM
Swung at a first pitch breaking ball. I have no problem with him swinging first pitch if it's pitch that he can drive, I don't think that was it.

young and eager... he'll learn...

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:35 PM
well woody's on barrowed time already...they'll get him

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:35 PM
young and eager... he'll learn...

Not worried. :)

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:38 PM
Not worried. :)

Not even close to worried about him.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:39 PM
CW back to preaching his bunt your way on gosphel

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Not even close to worried about him.

nope, if I had to pick 2 players in this organization to build around it would be Hamilton and Bailey...

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
Wow!!!!!

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
great try by Gonzo... infield single.

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
WOW...gonzo

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
That play was something else

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
That was an amazing play...safe or not.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
He nails a slow runner on that play!

Amazing!!

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 07:40 PM
How did he do that?

VR
05-09-2007, 07:41 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 07:41 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.
:eek:

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:42 PM
How did he do that?

He's Superman

jesusfan
05-09-2007, 07:42 PM
Belisle blows 95 right by Quintero...

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:43 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Speaking of Superman.

Handofdeath
05-09-2007, 07:45 PM
young and eager... he'll learn...

Not on this ballclub.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:45 PM
Davey Ross

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 07:45 PM
Hit it hard.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Thats unreal

CTA513
05-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

RedsFanWC
05-09-2007, 07:47 PM
Ross is sneaking up on EE's avg

RedRage
05-09-2007, 07:47 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:48 PM
Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

Well I think we knew he wasn't going to be as terrible as he started out but I don't think he's going to be as good as he was the first half of last year either.

Fullboat
05-09-2007, 07:49 PM
Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

Ross is showing more patience at the plate,EE should take note.

Fullboat
05-09-2007, 07:50 PM
Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.


When your that accurate IIB's are not your problem.

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:50 PM
Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.


We've had guys that go to 3-0 on more than 18 hitters in a game.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:51 PM
Tom Browning and Doug Flynn in the house

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:52 PM
Belisle's first meeting against Houston this season....

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:53 PM
GG and Biggio's hunt for 3000

homer
05-09-2007, 07:53 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

He must be drunk or blind.

292 PA's at 3-0, 275 BB.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=maddugr01

Patrick Bateman
05-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Nice throw, EE :rolleyes:

5th error of the season.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Edwin Edwin Edwin

KYRed
05-09-2007, 07:56 PM
Ouch EE, that one hurts bud.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 07:56 PM
Thanks, Edwin.

2-0 Astros

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:56 PM
who didn't see that coming...oy vey

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-09-2007, 07:56 PM
No one pays for errors and extra outs quite like this team. :bang:

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:56 PM
This inning should've been over. It should still be 0-0. Thanks Edwin

paintmered
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

In Marty's defense, he isn't the first one to quote the "18 batters" line the last few days.

I forget where it started, but I've heard it from a few sources already.

RedsFanWC
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Not sure how Edwin is helping this team right now

Marc D
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Berkman again.

This is crazy. Drill him for Gods sake.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

It looks like there were 17 ABs were he went 3-0, so that means only 17 of the 292 PAs he didn't walk. Probably got confused, or whoever gave him that stat did.

VR
05-09-2007, 07:57 PM
He must be drunk or blind.

292 PA's at 3-0, 275 BB.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=maddugr01


Doesn't include IBBs

jimbo
05-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Marty is an idiot.


These comments are getting old. According to redszoners, everyone in the baseball world are idiots.......except redszoners. :rolleyes:

Aronchis
05-09-2007, 07:58 PM
You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

homer
05-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Doesn't include IBBs

An IBB is a BB.

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 07:58 PM
everyone remember bowa calling concepcion elmer? well, i think we've got a new elmer:p:

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 07:58 PM
These comments are getting old. According to redszoners, everyone in the baseball world are idiots.......except redszoners. :rolleyes:

What's your point?

:laugh:

jimbo
05-09-2007, 07:59 PM
I'm really starting to have some doubts about Edwin.

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 07:59 PM
LOL. I knew when EE picked up that ball, it was an error. And I knew once it was an error the next batter was going. Wow what a team. :bang:

jimbo
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
What's your point?

:laugh:

Let me get back with on you that. :D

ochoa30
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
Im just not sure edwin has the mental capacity to get better. He seems like a baby. i like the kid but sometimes talent just isnt enough.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
LOL. I knew when EE picked up that ball, it was an error. And I knew once it was an error the next batter was going. Wow what a team. :bang:

What's going to happen this inning? Why do watch the game if you know what's going to happen?

KYRed
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
That was really nice of the Reds to help Berkman come out of his season long slump. I would say he'd end up with 80 if he played his home games in GABP, but he wouldn't get to hit against Reds pitching in that case.

WMR
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
GG and Biggio's hunt for 3000

Good one!

GG is certainly "EFFORTING." :rolleyes:

jeez he is so lameeee. :bang:

paintmered
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

Projected pythagorean records:

Reds: 84-76
Nats: 42-120

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.



Doesn't give up a 2 run HR if he's in the dugout and the inning is over.

VR
05-09-2007, 08:00 PM
You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

It was the second pitch if that matters

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Triple!

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Hey GOREDS why didn't you tell me BP was going to triple?

Marc D
05-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Dunner tells BP he lives out there(deep center) BP was only visiting.

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:01 PM
What's going to happen this inning? Why do watch the game if you know what's going to happen?

Reds will score 1.

UC_Ken
05-09-2007, 08:02 PM
I think Berkman just moved into a tie with Oswalt on the "Guys who Kill the Reds" rankings. At least until we play Milwaukee again.

VR
05-09-2007, 08:02 PM
I can't wait until BP gets put in the 5 or 6 spot where he belongs.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Dunn is up with a runner at third an 1 out....

WMR
05-09-2007, 08:03 PM
http://www.bookitentertainment.com/images/large_photos/johnny_carson.jpg

"A homer, A gomer, and a Zoner"

Lance Berkman, Edwin Encarnacion, and GoReds

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
:dunn:

:jump:

That was better!!!

KYRed
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Tie game, thank you Dunn.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Reds will score 1.

You might want to take your crystal ball in to get it looked at.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Dunn homers!

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Thank you Dunn + Phillips. I knew you were on my fantasy team for a reason!

Puffy
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Junior smoked that ball - too bad it was right at Biggio. Up to Dunner and Gonzalez

MrCinatit
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
And once again, Dunn fails to get a sacrifice fly :p:

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Hey! We figured out we're up against Woody Williams!

Dragnet to right. Dunn-da-Dunn-Dunn-DUNNNNNNNNN :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Dunn leads the team with Home Runs and RBIs!

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
You might want to take your crystal ball in to get it looked at.

1 and greater.

RedsFanWC
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Thats why Dunner doesnt have sac flies, when he hits the ball in the air it generally goes a long way

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Dunn leads the team with Home Runs and RBIs!

How many homers is that for him 10?

flyer85
05-09-2007, 08:06 PM
can't hit a sac fly to save his life.

BTW, did anyone else notice he choked up about an inch with two strikes

VR
05-09-2007, 08:06 PM
It would be nice to throttle and get deep into the pen with a day game tomorrow.
Hammer this guy.

The_jbh
05-09-2007, 08:06 PM
I'd give the world to acquire Berkman... i think hed hit 80 HRs in this park... :laugh:

Big Klu
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 208
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Vada Pinson - 186
10. Wally Post - 172
11. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 170
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
How many homers is that for him 10?

Yes. 20 something RBIs....

CTA513
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
can't hit a sac fly to save his life.

BTW, did anyone else notice he choked up about an inch with two strikes


Thats what I was coming on here to ask.
I thought he either was choking up or taking some weird swings.

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
I saw a stat the other day of pitches seen per at bat for the Reds hitters and Hamilton was one of the lowest on it. What has happened since ST? Just wondering....any views?

Hoosier Red
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
Thats why Dunner doesnt have sac flies, when he hits the ball in the air it generally goes a long way

See quote from Jerry Narron on sig line.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:07 PM
For what it's worth, Josh is batting .409 with 3HRs swinging at the first pitch.

WMR
05-09-2007, 08:08 PM
How can you lead a team in RBI but not be a run producer?

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I might appreciate Miley ::cough cough:: Narron, getting kicked out once and a while, this team gets crap calls.

flyer85
05-09-2007, 08:08 PM
everyone remember bowa calling concepcion elmer? well, i think we've got a new elmer:p:Bowa asked Davey if his first name was Elmer. Davey said "no" and Bowa responded that thoughtDavey had changed to Elmer because he alway saw E Concepcion in the paper. Davey was not amused.

Hoosier Red
05-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I'd give the world to acquire Berkman... i think hed hit 80 HRs in this park... :laugh:

Yeah but taking out the Reds pitching, he'd be hard pressed to hit 10.

RedRage
05-09-2007, 08:09 PM
lol

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:09 PM
I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?

Post Script --- Jr. is no longer a free swinger.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:10 PM
Yes. 20 something RBIs....

10 HRS, 21 RBIs

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:10 PM
How long until Edwin finds himself in AAA? I'm not hoping for it, but it would be hard to argue with at this point.

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:10 PM
Did we really pay money to get Milton's arm MRI'ed? They are expensive and he just sucks, we know why he's hurt.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:11 PM
How long until Edwin finds himself in AAA? I'm not hoping for it, but it would be hard to argue with at this point.

I'll say never. Who can take his place besides Freel?

paintmered
05-09-2007, 08:11 PM
I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?

Post Script --- Jr. is no longer a free swinger.

Part of his mini-slide a few weeks ago corresponded with shorter ABs. As with most hitters, with patience comes rakeage.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:11 PM
I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?



I do and I loved it....when he didn't get a hit, or had an 0fer, he still got walks and got on base.

Not as much now...but like anything else, he has to adjust.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:12 PM
I like this Pence kid

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:12 PM
I'll say never. Who can take his place besides Freel?
I really hope you're right. I just invision Keppinger being called up for him.

RedsFanWC
05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Anyone know Belisle's contract status? How many more years do the Reds have his rights?

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Way to go EE.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Another one by Edwin goodness

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Edwin again...

Should have held onto the ball after he dropped it.

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Here comes another HR

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Oh man.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Close play at second....but a good call.

Dunner44
05-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Is freel going to up to the plate in the bottom of the 4th?

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:14 PM
2out....get the batter and there is no harm

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Houston gets to turn the batting order over now next inning...

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
it was a hard hit ball, but why not hold onto it? will elmer ever learn?

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Woody's driving them in

VR
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm not a fan of walking Humberto Quintero.

KYRed
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Talk about comedy hour, this is pitiful.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Thank you Edwin

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Knew it ... way to go defense.

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
We are no good. Absolutely not.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Wow.

Error on Hamilton as well.....which I don't think we'll see much of.

keeganbrick
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Cool Woody

Dunner44
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Ok Reds, you walk the catcher to get to the pitcher, now do what you're supposed to do to the pitcher... humilate him. I've seen the opposing pitcher get far too many hits this year in RBI situations.

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
wow....:bang:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Belisle already at 73 pitches

Dunner44
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
That's it, I'm done for the night... time to go back to writing papers.

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:16 PM
"Nice job Josh."

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
27 errors on the year for the Reds, which is the second most in the NL


Pitching and defense, baby! Catch the fever!!

homer
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Ok Reds, you walk the catcher to get to the pitcher, now do what you're supposed to do to the pitcher... humilate him. I've seen the opposing pitcher get far too many hits this year in RBI situations.

Woody swings the bat well, and Belisle is working up in the zone. Bad combination.

Falls City Beer
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Fun.

CTA513
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Belisle is getting the defense that Milton usually gets.

keeganbrick
05-09-2007, 08:17 PM
That's it, I'm done for the night... time to go back to writing papers.

Anything but that.:bang:

VR
05-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Humberto Quintero had the same amount of career homers and half as many career RBI's as WW.

Aronchis
05-09-2007, 08:18 PM
The Reds may struggle badly against teams with good pitching. They have been facing some weak staffs lately that have made the offense look better than it really is.

Losses will pile up.

Fullboat
05-09-2007, 08:18 PM
I think its time for a team meeting.

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:18 PM
just 1 run scored...Narron should be clapping getting his team to forget about that inning.

Spring~Fields
05-09-2007, 08:19 PM
27 errors on the year for the Reds, which is the second most in the NL


Pitching and defense, baby! Catch the fever!!

"Playing the game the right way" ..........I hope I never hear those words again.

penantboundreds
05-09-2007, 08:19 PM
Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

Kc61
05-09-2007, 08:19 PM
The Reds starters must be burning. The bullpen messes them up constantly. Now EE has just completely messed up this start by Belisle. Guy is pitching well, but he needs to get four outs every inning that a ball is hit to third.

What a turnaround. Used to be that the starting pitching hurt the Reds game after game. Now the starters need to claim nonsupport.

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:20 PM
I figured EE would make up for it, good job.

Fullboat
05-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

Torre=$$

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:21 PM
Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

The Yankees won't be getting rid of Torre as long as Clemens wants to pitch in NY.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:21 PM
I figured EE would make up for it, good job.

He hit a 3 run HR? I missed that... :p:

paintmered
05-09-2007, 08:21 PM
The Reds may struggle badly against teams with good pitching. They have been facing some weak staffs lately that have made the offense look better than it really is.

Losses will pile up.

http://girlfriday.typepad.com/photos/girl_friday/debbie_downer.jpg

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:21 PM
when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:22 PM
The Yankees won't be getting rid of Torre as long as Clemens wants to pitch in NY.

The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

GOREDSGO32
05-09-2007, 08:22 PM
He hit a 3 run HR? I missed that... :p:

I didn't think he could pitch either. :mooner:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:22 PM
I didn't he could pitch either. :mooner:


Maybe he can....they need bullpen help :D

keeganbrick
05-09-2007, 08:22 PM
Wont even throw Belisle a fast ball. You pu**ies

Red in Chicago
05-09-2007, 08:23 PM
when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

giving the team extra outs, makes the pitcher work harder...it hurts you eventually

VR
05-09-2007, 08:23 PM
Torre=$$


Not sure what the thrill w/ Joe is....if you can't win with that talent,,,

Kc61
05-09-2007, 08:23 PM
when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

I'm not worried about Hamilton's error. But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:24 PM
The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

Well he said he wouldn't have gone to NY if Torre wasn't still the manager. I guess he could be lying though. Not sure why he would in that situation.

homer
05-09-2007, 08:24 PM
The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

That and his BFF didn't play in NY.

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=394732

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:24 PM
the best way to get a pitcher out...a steady diet of breaking balls...take notes red pitchers

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Wont even throw Belisle a fast ball. You pu**ies

Why did you call them puppies? :D

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:24 PM
I'm not worried about Hamilton's error. But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.
First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

jimbo
05-09-2007, 08:25 PM
But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.

I think the majority of EE's problems are in his head.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:25 PM
That and his BFF didn't play in NY.

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=394732

I'm sure that was a factor....that and he lives in Houston.

Big Klu
05-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Well he said he wouldn't have gone to NY if Torre wasn't still the manager. I guess he could be lying though. Not sure why he would in that situation.

I can think of 28,000,000 reasons.

Alkie
05-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Not sure what the thrill w/ Joe is....if you can't win with that talent,,,

Yeah, I don't either. Joe wasn't thought of as a great manager before he took over a team with an outrageous budget. Even then, he hasn't found a way to lead that team to a WS title in what will be the 7th straight year this year.

You guys can do better.

Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:26 PM
First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

Marty's said that for a couple years now, and has gotten absolutely crucified for it.

Spring~Fields
05-09-2007, 08:27 PM
First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

I said that last year, that he should be moved to first. Everyone wet themselves. :devil:

Now they have him all out of wack fielding, throwing and hitting.

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:27 PM
I can think of 28,000,000 reasons.

He said that after he signed. They asked him "if Joe Torre was fired last week would that have made things different?" He said "I wouldn't be a Yankee that's for sure." And he's always said how much he loves Joe Torre even before he signed with them. He would have got his 28 mil from Houston or Boston anyway.

George Foster
05-09-2007, 08:27 PM
Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

under that logic, a manager is never the problem, because they don't play.

Aronchis
05-09-2007, 08:28 PM
I said that last year, that he should be moved to first. Everyone wet themselves. :devil:

Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

Degenerate39
05-09-2007, 08:28 PM
First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

Griffey stays in Cincy

Eric_Davis
05-09-2007, 08:29 PM
With 3 errors so far today putting our total at 27 we fly past the Dodgers who have 25 errors, and now have only to catch those defensive-minded Washington Nationals, who have 31, which includes the one they had today.

Maybe we'll catch them before the night is done.

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Marty's said that for a couple years now, and has gotten absolutely crucified for it.
Good for Marty.

May he got something right for once. That'll be a rare feat.

Btw, Adam Dunn's not a run producer. :rolleyes:

Razor Shines
05-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Yeah, I don't either. Joe wasn't thought of as a great manager before he took over a team with an outrageous budget. Even then, he hasn't found a way to lead that team to a WS title in what will be the 7th straight year this year.

You guys can do better.

Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

They don't have any pitching either. Torre isn't making decisions on signing, I'm pretty sure the Big Man does most of that.

Puig Your Red
05-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Griffey stays in Cincy
Only if he gets hurt.

VR
05-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

He's got a great glove....lousy arm.
I'm convinced it's mostly poor mechanics. He's got an awful hitch and loop in that toss./

keeganbrick
05-09-2007, 08:31 PM
I think Griff will be an All-Star this year though.

Spring~Fields
05-09-2007, 08:31 PM
Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

VR
05-09-2007, 08:31 PM
Belisle is a different pitcher this year, very refreshing.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2007, 08:32 PM
Good for Marty.

May he got something right for once. That'll be a rare feat.

:

Yeah, ok.

Aronchis
05-09-2007, 08:33 PM
He's got a great glove....lousy arm.
I'm convinced it's mostly poor mechanics. He's got an awful hitch and loop in that toss./

Hardly surprising at his age. Typically, his bat would more than make up for it but he has been struggling at the plate as well.

I think people need patience.