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Jim Fazio
05-12-2007, 06:30 PM
Does Narron come back on the Reds plane following this road trip?

kaldaniels
05-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Does Narron come back on the Reds plane following this road trip?

Yes...but only after you edited your post. :D

Degenerate39
05-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Yes

BoxingRed
05-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Maybe?:p:

captainmorgan07
05-12-2007, 06:36 PM
unfortunately yes

TOBTTReds
05-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Make a poll if you want a yes or no.

I say no. He rides back on Bob's plane in a meeting with Bob and WK.

redsmetz
05-12-2007, 07:11 PM
yes, he has Cast's & WK's support

JaxRed
05-12-2007, 07:17 PM
Of course

Matt700wlw
05-12-2007, 07:40 PM
Yes

Always Red
05-12-2007, 07:57 PM
yes

Bob Borkowski
05-12-2007, 08:10 PM
Yes

jojo
05-12-2007, 08:19 PM
Does Narron come back on the Reds plane following this road trip?

yes

do the Reds come back with a season is another question....

This is a great test for the Reds, it would be a joy watching them rise to the challenge....

Unassisted
05-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Yes, I'm certain of it.

peterose00
05-12-2007, 08:39 PM
NO

Tony Perez was given 44 games by Jim Bowden. Bowden was crucified for not giving Perez nearly enough time to prove his mettle as a manager.

The Reds have yet to even play 44 games this year. Narron will be dealt with more fairly b Krivsky than Perez was by Bowden.

peterose00
05-12-2007, 08:42 PM
NO

Tony Perez was given 44 games by Jim Bowden. Bowden was crucified for not giving Perez nearly enough time to prove his mettle as a manager.

The Reds have yet to even play 44 games this year. Narron will be dealt with more fairly b Krivsky than Perez was by Bowden.

That is NO, he won't be fired yet -- and yes he will come back employed as the manager after this road trip.

TeamBoone
05-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Yes.

MartyFan
05-13-2007, 04:32 AM
Does Narron come back on the Reds plane following this road trip?

Yes

George Anderson
05-13-2007, 03:37 PM
Yep

BoydsOfSummer
05-13-2007, 05:37 PM
This should have been a poll.

Unfortunately, yes.

redram
05-13-2007, 09:43 PM
Yes

flyer85
05-13-2007, 09:46 PM
Do the Reds come back on the plane following this road trip?fixed

redsrule2500
05-13-2007, 09:56 PM
Yes

BuckeyeRedleg
05-13-2007, 10:31 PM
Removing Narron is like changing windshield wiper blades on the '74 Pinto, sitting on blocks, out in the backyard.

Do something big first, like maybe indoor plumbing for the shack.

TheWalls
05-13-2007, 10:34 PM
No. Castellini the fan will never allow it.

cincrazy
05-13-2007, 10:34 PM
Yes, Narron will be back. And unfortunately, most of the player's will be, too.

Marge'sMullet
05-13-2007, 11:00 PM
Yes, because they don't have anyone to replace him with. Who Bucky Dent? Outsider? Seriously we have a 500k per year manager, what more to expect from this sewer system?

AtomicDumpling
05-13-2007, 11:27 PM
No.

Wheelhouse
05-14-2007, 01:22 AM
No. This losing streak is now defining Castellini...Wayne loses if he fires Narron--GMs generally get 2 managers before they're fired. So Wayne won't want to give up one of his chances until he absolutely has to. But Castellini has a different burden. He came at us with a good deal of talk--and we responded. The Reds fans have embraced him and his approach, and he got some very brisk attendance at the beginning of the year, with the hope that good baseball was coming (note how I'm not saying contending, just decent baseball). That's not happening. The decision to fire Narron will come from Bob Castellini, as he is a very proud man who, after this honeymoon, is having his judgment doubted by many fans. Again, I will not be happy if Narron is fired; he is a good man, perhaps too good. He's just not the guy to lead this team--in fact he doesn't really lead a team, the team leads him...

Spring~Fields
05-14-2007, 01:27 AM
Yes

BucksandReds
05-14-2007, 01:36 AM
I might not be great but I doubt we'd be in worse shape if I were the manager

Always Red
05-14-2007, 10:28 AM
I voted yes earlier, that Narron would be coming home from this trip. I still think he's coming home from this trip as manager.

This losing streak (gee, who would have predicted that on the West Coast?), and some rumors of clubhouse dissension are beginning to take it's toll. The media (radio mostly at this point) is starting to beat the drum for Narron's dismissal. Narron and Krivsky both got the kiss of death vote of confidence the other day. FWIW, I believe Cast when he says their jobs are not in danger.

I thought Jerry would last the year, and I certainly don't blame him for all of this team's problems; he's trying to make chicken salad out of something less than chicken.

But, Bob Castellini thinks of himself as a man of action; he's going to have to do something if this terrible display of baseball continues. Kriv is not going to be fired yet- Narron isn't even his manager; he's going to get another shot with another guy. Changing managers will give some an illusion of hope, draw some fans to the park, probably give the team a temporary kick-start, and create some smokey illusion that this really is a good team that was mismanaged.

SO, if this continues, I think Narron is going to go down. Simply because a scapegoat will be needed. He can't fire all of the players (yet). He probably won't let Krivsky go, yet, either. Although if Cast is a real man of action, he could let them both go at once- that would shake things up! It would also create total chaos, during the middle of a season, so that would never happen.

So, for right or wrong, I think Jerry gets fired, I'd say by the ASB unless this club is back to .500. It's just too easy to blame him, and things are very bad here in Mudville right now.

I don't necessarily think that is the right decision (I think Narron is an OK manager- not great and not bad), but I do think this is what is going to play out.

BRM
05-14-2007, 11:10 AM
Yes, he's coming back. He won't be fired until midseason at the earliest but he'll likely last the year.

44Magnum
05-14-2007, 12:25 PM
No

shredda2000
05-14-2007, 01:09 PM
yes.

AmarilloRed
05-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Yes. He will last the season but be fired at the end of it. If the bullpen isnt fixed by the end of the year, Krivsky may be gone also.

Puffy
05-14-2007, 01:21 PM
NO

Tony Perez was given 44 games by Jim Bowden. Bowden was crucified for not giving Perez nearly enough time to prove his mettle as a manager.

The Reds have yet to even play 44 games this year. Narron will be dealt with more fairly b Krivsky than Perez was by Bowden.

Do you realize Jerry Narron has managed the Reds for over 250 games now?

250>44.

Bowden was critized not because it was 44 games into A season, it was because it was 44 games into a managing career.

Talk about missing a point.....

Puffy
05-14-2007, 01:22 PM
By the way - yes, Jerry Narron maes it back from this trip. And he should. The time to change managers is in the offseason.

Will M
05-14-2007, 02:13 PM
By the way - yes, Jerry Narron maes it back from this trip. And he should. The time to change managers is in the offseason.

Puffy, in respect to your Authority I agree with you.

klw
05-14-2007, 04:50 PM
Does Narron come back on the Reds plane following this road trip?


No he comes back onboard the plane.
Being on the plane is just no way to fly.
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/assets/es/wi/es_wi_plane_1_e.jpg

In all seriousness, with his extension, ties to Hobbs, etc, he is likely in no danger for at least another month or two.

Redlegs
05-14-2007, 04:59 PM
Yes. He didn't walk the Brad Penny with the bases loaded. Kyle Loshe did. That's just one example, but Narron cannot help the poor bullpen he's been dealt. If the Reds fire him, it'll be to keep fan interest. I'd be fine with it because I don't think he's an exceptional manager or motivator. I just don't think you can pin this debacle on the manager.

BenHayes
05-14-2007, 05:07 PM
yes but only because no one is available to sit in the hotseat.

cinredsfan2000
05-14-2007, 06:51 PM
Well at least wayne K. didnt decide to deal for Jorge Julio :D ;) :beerme: at least theres another good decision made by our G.M. could you imagine if narron was running him out there everynight :eek: :help: :eek: :help:

BoCcc2832
05-14-2007, 07:41 PM
Yes. He didn't walk the Brad Penny with the bases loaded. Kyle Loshe did. That's just one example, but Narron cannot help the poor bullpen he's been dealt. If the Reds fire him, it'll be to keep fan interest. I'd be fine with it because I don't think he's an exceptional manager or motivator. I just don't think you can pin this debacle on the manager.

Good point Redlegs...also, Jerry Narron isn't the one who signed the new players from last year to this year that have contributed to the miserable start...that was Krivsky, of who I still support. You can't blame Narron as much as you all are because he's worked with the lineups, trying desperately to find something that works...oh and Jr. just made the NL Player of the Week when Narron put him back in his natural three spot in the batting order...coincidence? I hardly doubt it.

Also, for the past several years, we've had good or hot starts and that balanced out to a losing season. Here's hoping that that trend has reversed itself (meaning crappy start = winning season).

Ron Madden
05-14-2007, 07:46 PM
Hell, Narron should never have been hired in the first place.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2007, 07:48 PM
This looks like the same worn down, non-caring, unmotivated team that FELL out of contention last season....

This is nothing new...this is just a continued downward spiral

BoydsOfSummer
05-14-2007, 08:28 PM
Marge would leave him out there and make him find his own way home.