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M2
05-31-2007, 10:52 AM
One thing that can't happen with the new system is for fans of other teams to mosey over here and interact with the ORG folks.

Would folks be interested in having a sub-forum where if a Pirates or Indians fan wanted to come in and kick around some topics about their teams that everyone - ORG and SD - could join in? A lot of these folks tend to be well-known posters in their teams' Redszone equivalents and, while they probably won't be consistent posters on the board, it would certainly be nice to welcome them in when there's actual or possible trades or a series between the Reds and their team or just to discuss general horse race issues.

I figure it could be like the minor league forum.

I'm curious to hear whether folks think it's a good or lousy idea? People might not care either way too, but you never know whether folks will pick up it and run with it if you don't toss it out there.

Joseph
05-31-2007, 11:08 AM
Just curious, but would your proposal mean that ALL talk of other teams would be relegated to that forum, or just talk originating from the keyboards of non-Reds fans?

For example if I wanted to talk about that play Nomar made last night, which forum?

M2
05-31-2007, 11:15 AM
Just curious, but would your proposal mean that ALL talk of other teams would be relegated to that forum, or just talk originating from the keyboards of non-Reds fans?

For example if I wanted to talk about that play Nomar made last night, which forum?

To be honest, I don't know. I don't think you should siphon off all talk about other teams, but it would be nice if an Angels or Rangers fan who wanted to talk about those upcoming series (perhaps they're visiting Cincinnati for the first time) was able to access the full membership.

Red Leader
05-31-2007, 11:18 AM
Personally, I like the idea, but I can see a couple good / bad points to it.

1) Good - it will create more traffic to the site, more interest, allow another forum for ORG and SD members to interact, and be another "feeder" forum for the ORG.

2) Bad - it will create more traffic to the site, use more bandwidth, require more moderation or more time/work for the current mods.

In the end, I could see it requiring heavy moderation like RZ was a couple years ago before the rep system was implemented. Not sure if that's what GIK/Boss want at this point in time. Like I said, I'd like that as I myself am interested in more teams than just the Reds.

Unassisted
05-31-2007, 12:22 PM
M2, are you more afraid of losing the opportunity to interact with those drive-by visitors or of how SD posters will respond if the drive-by visitors are trash-talkers?

It sounds like you're more worried about the former. Both seem like core issues to me, although in the second case, I think SD posters can distinguish themselves in how they respond (or don't respond) to those visitors.

Razor Shines
05-31-2007, 12:38 PM
M2, are you more afraid of losing the opportunity to interact with those drive-by visitors or of how SD posters will respond if the drive-by visitors are trash-talkers?

It sounds like you're more worried about the former. Both seem like core issues to me, although in the second case, I think SD posters can distinguish themselves in how they respond (or don't respond) to those visitors.

You realize that we can hear you? We're standing right here. :evil:

Unassisted
05-31-2007, 01:01 PM
You realize that we can hear you? We're standing right here. :evil: Oh, I'm well aware of where I posted this. ;)

M2
05-31-2007, 03:06 PM
M2, are you more afraid of losing the opportunity to interact with those drive-by visitors or of how SD posters will respond if the drive-by visitors are trash-talkers?

It sounds like you're more worried about the former. Both seem like core issues to me, although in the second case, I think SD posters can distinguish themselves in how they respond (or don't respond) to those visitors.

Sure, I'd like the opportunity to interact with the drive-by visitors from other teams. My guess is many of those folks would also like the chance to interact with the ORG membership.

I figure the SD folks will comport themselves just fine, but I'm looking at this as an area (like the minor leagues) where it might make sense to have the full membership in the tent.

BRM
05-31-2007, 03:13 PM
I like this idea. I don't how often it would get used or how hard it would be to set up and moderate but I like the premise.

WVRed
05-31-2007, 04:49 PM
I like this idea. I don't how often it would get used or how hard it would be to set up and moderate but I like the premise.

I think if you were going to do something like this, go with something similar to SOSH.

Maybe add these boards.

Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bearcats
Ohio St Buckeyes
Kentucky Wildcats
Pittsburgh Pirates
Cleveland Indians

As far as moderators go, add another two or three and possibly assign one moderator control over a subforum instead of everybody looking out. These forums probably would not generate much activity to garner a need for much moderation.

TeamBoone
05-31-2007, 06:29 PM
1) Good - it will create more traffic to the site, more interest, allow another forum for ORG and SD members to interact, and be another "feeder" forum for the ORG.

2) Bad - it will create more traffic to the site, use more bandwidth, require more moderation or more time/work for the current mods.

I think it's a great idea, M2. RL, IMHO, I don't see #2 occurring. We have had posters from other teams coming here for a long time, and to my knowledge, it's never created a bandwidth problem (they don't visit often enough for that to happen) or any other kind of problem.

I'm sure they won't be flocking here any more than they ever did. Occasional visits and conversation with Ramp, Swamp Turkey, and Matty Mo are really missed. (those are the ones that came to me off the top of my head)

Ltlabner
05-31-2007, 06:54 PM
As long as people don't suddenly start using the "other baseball teams forum" as a way to bypass the intent of the recient changes, I think it might be a nice addition. Definatley will increase mod workload.

Not that anyone here would ever dream in a million years to try to skirt around the rules. ;)

RedsManRick
05-31-2007, 09:53 PM
Why not just call it a visitors forum and only allow posters with under a certain number of posts or with special permissions for regular "guests" to create new threads -- with everybody given the ability to respond.

919191
06-01-2007, 01:15 AM
I like this idea alot.

jmcclain19
06-01-2007, 02:41 AM
I like this idea quite a bit - while I do love the Reds, I also enjoy talking about the other teams quite a bit.

TeamCasey
06-01-2007, 08:57 AM
One of the things I said I'd miss with the changes is interacting with the occasional drop-in from other team's fans.

I don't have any ideas on how you'd implement it, but I'd welcome it as some sort of sub-forum. I still interact occasionally with some of those dastardly Cardinal fans from the cincy.com days. :)

Danny Serafini
06-01-2007, 10:23 AM
Personally I think it'll just add more clutter to the place and split things up even more, but it's not something that will bother me too much I suppose. I do find it odd that we're talking about adding a forum where all members of the site can get together and talk about every Major League team except the one we all actually care about.

Boss-Hog
06-02-2007, 11:19 AM
I agree that one segment of our audience that suffers with the recent changes is fans of other teams that occassionally visit the board. I did my best to account for this in the original ORG member list by giving access to a few of our long-time contributors who are fans of other teams (as well as valued users of the site), but that obviously doesn't account for new members.

Personally, I like RedsManRick's idea - create a new visitors forum where all registered members can access, but only those who are infrequent visitors to the site (whatever that reason may be) would be able to start new threads. The example that M2 provided (an Indians fan who wants to discuss the upcoming Reds-Indians series) fits this category, as does TangoTiger (http://www.redszone.com/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=4757). Everyone would be able to respond to threads that the visitors create.

This forum would not be used for ORG/SunDeck members to post non Reds related baseball discussion; those threads would remain in the appropriate baseball forum. It would only be used to give those who infrequently visit the board (fans of other teams and other special instances an opportunity to interact with all forum members.

RBA
06-02-2007, 12:19 PM
This site is for Reds Fans, by Reds Fans. So, I say no special privileges for fans of other teams.

RFS62
06-02-2007, 02:09 PM
This site is for Reds Fans, by Reds Fans. So, I say no special privileges for fans of other teams.


Totally disagree. I'd like to make it an inviting place for fans of other teams. We've met some pretty cool contributors over the years from other fan bases.

Boss-Hog
06-02-2007, 02:19 PM
Totally disagree. I'd like to make it an inviting place for fans of other teams. We've met some pretty cool contributors over the years from other fan bases.
I agree with you. This site is first and foremost for Reds fans, but that doesn't mean we should thumb our nose up at fans of other teams, particularly given the contributions we've received from the latter group over the years.

RBA
06-02-2007, 02:28 PM
So we can interact with fans of other teams more than we can with reds fans here who are on the sundeck forum? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Boss-Hog
06-02-2007, 02:52 PM
We're talking about users who drop by to post an occassional message that would otherwise have no chance at receiving Old Red Guard access.

Red Leader
06-02-2007, 04:18 PM
Myabe we could have a cap as far as number of posts allowed on that subforum before they have to register here at RZ and go through the normal process of getting ORG access?

Boss-Hog
06-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Also, just to throw it out there, instead of creating an entirely new forum, what about keeping things simple and just expanding the scope of this forum a bit to cover these visitors?

remdog
06-04-2007, 05:13 PM
Also, just to throw it out there, instead of creating an entirely new forum, what about keeping things simple and just expanding the scope of this forum a bit to cover these visitors?

In what way?

They can post in SD since they don't meet ORG guidelines? But then ORG members can't talk to them.

They can post in ORG even though they don't meet ORG guidelines? Inherently unfair to SD members and they can't talk to them.

Overall, I think this is a bad idea but if you're going to do it set up a seperate forum and call it 'Out of Town Talk' or something and let everyone post there to their heart's content.

Or, simply go to one board and let everyone talk to each other without all of this other nonsense. ;)

Rem

Red Leader
06-04-2007, 05:15 PM
In what way?

They can post in SD since they don't meet ORG guidelines? But then ORG members can't talk to them.

They can post in ORG even though they don't meet ORG guidelines? Inherently unfair to SD members and they can't talk to them.

Overall, I think this is a bad idea but if you're going to do it set up a seperate forum and call it 'Out of Town Talk' or something and let everyone post there to their heart's content.

Or, simply go to one board and let everyone talk to each other without all of this other nonsense. ;)

Rem

Everyone can post in the Introductions and Site Feedback Forum, ORG members and SD members. Boss was saying add the subforum onto this forum so that everyone could discuss topics with our out of town visitors. I'm fine with that idea.

Boss-Hog
06-04-2007, 06:36 PM
In what way?

They can post in SD since they don't meet ORG guidelines? But then ORG members can't talk to them.

They can post in ORG even though they don't meet ORG guidelines? Inherently unfair to SD members and they can't talk to them.

Overall, I think this is a bad idea but if you're going to do it set up a seperate forum and call it 'Out of Town Talk' or something and let everyone post there to their heart's content.

Or, simply go to one board and let everyone talk to each other without all of this other nonsense. ;)

Rem
I was talking specifically about this forum (i.e. Introductions and Site Feedback) and not the board as a whole.

remdog
06-04-2007, 09:58 PM
I was talking specifically about this forum (i.e. Introductions and Site Feedback) and not the board as a whole.

OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Rem

RBA
06-04-2007, 10:06 PM
In what way?


Or, simply go to one board and let everyone talk to each other without all of this other nonsense. ;)

Rem

I'm starting to think the same way. Must be the water in California. ;)