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reds44
06-05-2007, 08:35 PM
Chris Valaika is 1-1
Stubbs 0-1
Turner 0-1

reds44
06-05-2007, 08:37 PM
Fisher:
1 IP. 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 08:37 PM
Jay Bruce is 1-for-1 with his 17th double.

reds44
06-05-2007, 08:44 PM
A Kenny Kelley sighting in the Bats game.

Votto is 0-1 batting 3rd
Dickerson is 0-1 with his 1,000,000 K.
The man to be called up if Gonzalez goes on the DL (Lopez) is 0-1.

reds44
06-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Janish is 1-1 with a 2B and run.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 08:59 PM
Fisher: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

reds44
06-05-2007, 09:01 PM
Pedro (don't call me Felipe) Lopez and Votto are both 1-2 with back to back singles.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 09:06 PM
Daryl Thompson: 4 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 4 K

reds44
06-05-2007, 09:09 PM
Tuner is 1-2 with a triple and run

Aronchis
06-05-2007, 09:14 PM
Stubbs is falling to pieces. He is looking like a sore thumb with a bunch of polished(Turner,Val) and raw potential(Francisco). Obviously Stubbs has Francisco beaten on walks/plate discipline right now, but he is 3 years older and Francisco is much more powerfull.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 09:32 PM
Fisher: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K, 6 GO/3 FO

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 09:38 PM
Votto is 2-for-3 with two singles.

CTA513
06-05-2007, 10:00 PM
Dayton is up 7-2 in the 7th

Thompson: 6 Innings, 4 Hits, 2 Runs, 1 BB, 5 K
Bray: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 2 K

CTA513
06-05-2007, 10:01 PM
Chattanooga is winning 3-0 in the 6th

Fisher: 5 Innings, 3 Hits, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 4 K

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 10:06 PM
Fisher: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 7 GO/4 FO

Opps, didn't see CTA's post.

OnBaseMachine
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Fisher: 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 6 K, 8 GO/4 FO

Pushed his ERA above 1.00 to 1.22.

captainmorgan07
06-05-2007, 10:11 PM
im starting to like this thompson fellow

TOBTTReds
06-05-2007, 10:18 PM
What's Fisher's ceiling? You think he will get an invite to ST next year if he continues to do this?

CTA513
06-05-2007, 10:36 PM
*edit* Bray only pitched 1 inning, the box score on MILB.com was messed up.

Aronchis
06-05-2007, 10:38 PM
What's Fisher's ceiling? You think he will get an invite to ST next year if he continues to do this?

Most likely. He will be 25 and physically mature. When he came out of college, I remember a few people around here were comparing him to "Brady Penny" type stuff which means he may have a chance to be a good starter in this league, though probably not top level.

reds44
06-05-2007, 10:47 PM
Bray pitched another inning: 2 Innings, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 2 K
Didn't realize he went back out on rehab. Hopefully he'll be up here soon.

dougdirt
06-05-2007, 10:53 PM
Stubbs is falling to pieces. He is looking like a sore thumb with a bunch of polished(Turner,Val) and raw potential(Francisco). Obviously Stubbs has Francisco beaten on walks/plate discipline right now, but he is 3 years older and Francisco is much more powerfull.

Francisco is much more powerful than almost everyone in that league. He is second in the league in HRs and turned 20 about a week ago.

11larkin11
06-05-2007, 11:08 PM
Really, what is Francisco's ceiling? I know he's very powerful, but is his low walk rate a big problem? Does he K a lot? I really want to know about him, I love his power but don't want another Adam Dunn, without the walks.

dougdirt
06-05-2007, 11:14 PM
Really, what is Francisco's ceiling? I know he's very powerful, but is his low walk rate a big problem? Does he K a lot? I really want to know about him, I love his power but don't want another Adam Dunn, without the walks.

Francisco has a strong cieling. He has a lot of power and the ball really jumps off his bat. He is very weak defensively with I believe 16 errors at third base already this season. His walk rate has been borderline 'average' since May began, but in April and last year it was very poor. The Dragons manager noted in April that it was something that they really wanted to work on him with, and it looks like they have been doing their job as his walk rate jumped from a walk per 43.5 PA in April to a walk every 12.5 PA in May. He will strike out his fair share though. He is still rather young, having just turned 20 the last week of May.

crazyredfan40
06-05-2007, 11:17 PM
A Kenny Kelley sighting in the Bats game.

Votto is 0-1 batting 3rd
Dickerson is 0-1 with his 1,000,000 K.
The man to be called up if Gonzalez goes on the DL (Lopez) is 0-1.

Whatever happened to the Cruz kid that they called up earlier in the season?

dougdirt
06-05-2007, 11:18 PM
Whatever happened to the Cruz kid that they called up earlier in the season?

He is in AA.

CTA513
06-05-2007, 11:24 PM
Dayton won 5-4
Webb: 4.1 Innings, 6 Hits, 3 Runs, 1 BB, 4 K
Tabor: 1 Inning, 1 Hit, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 1 K
DeJesus: 2.2 Innings, 1 hit, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 6 K
J. Rojas: 1 Inning, 1 Hit, 1 Run, 0 BB, 2 K

Heisey: 3 for 4 with 3 singles
Rodriguez: 2 for 4 with a single, game winning homerun and 2 RBIs
Valaika: 1 for 4 with a single
Francisco: 1 for 4 with a double

Box Score: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_06_05_lanafx_dayafx_1

Patrick Bateman
06-05-2007, 11:37 PM
Whatever happened to the Cruz kid that they called up earlier in the season?

He got old. He's a non-propsect.

CTA513
06-05-2007, 11:44 PM
Sarasota won 7-2
Thompson: 6 Innings, 4 Hits, 2 Runs, 1 BB, 5 K
Bray: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 2 K
Gunter: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 0 K
Lutz: 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 1 K

Bruce: 1 for 4 with a double
Rosales: 2 for 3 with a double and 1 RBI
Kainer: 1 for 3 with a single and walk
Tatum: 2 for 4 with 2 homeruns and 3 RBIs

Box Score: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_06_05_vbdafa_sarafa_1

CTA513
06-05-2007, 11:47 PM
The Chattanooga box score hasn't updated in a while, so I don't know what happened in that game.

tomred
06-05-2007, 11:49 PM
I have a question for you Doug what shape is our minors like it seems real good .What is your opinion and anyone who knowsabout minors please respond thanks

Reds Fanatic
06-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Dayton won 5-4
Webb: 4.1 Innings, 6 Hits, 3 Runs, 1 BB, 4 K
Tabor: 1 Inning, 1 Hit, 0 Runs, 1 BB, 1 K
DeJesus: 2.2 Innings, 1 hit, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 6 K
J. Rojas: 1 Inning, 1 Hit, 1 Run, 0 BB, 2 K

Heisey: 3 for 4 with 3 singles
Rodriguez: 2 for 4 with a single, game winning homerun and 2 RBIs
Valaika: 1 for 4 with a single
Francisco: 1 for 4 with a double

Box Score: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_06_05_lanafx_dayafx_1

Just got back from an exciting Dragons game. Dragons went in to the 9th with a 4-3 lead. Rojas came in to close and the first Lansing batter homered to tie it 4-4. Then in the bottom of the 9th Rodriguez hit a long homer over the stands in left on the first pitch for a walkoff 5-4 Dayton win.

Another thing to note about tonight's game is Misael DeJesus had a dominating performance with 6 Ks over 2.2 innings of relief. He was basically just throwing heat right past the batters. He also made a good behind the back stop of a grounder back to him.

Valaika also made a fantastic diving play at short tonight.

mth123
06-06-2007, 12:22 AM
Chat Won 10-6

Fisher 6 IP, 5H, 1BB, 1ER, 6K
Till 1IP, 1ER (3 TOTAL), 4H, 1K
Pelland 1IP, 1ER, 1H, 2BB, 0K
Guvara 1IP, 1ER, 2H, 1BB, 2K



Cosme 5AB, 3H, 1R, 2RBI, 1 2B.
Cruz 3AB, 3H, 2BB, 1R, 2RBI
Williams 3AB, 1H, 1HR, 1BB, 2R, 2RBI
Godwin 4AB, 1H, 1HR, 2R, 1RBI, 1BB
Janish 4AB, 2H, 1 2B, 1R, 1RBI

Not a good not for the pen. Fisher was the highlight and looks good again though.

Eric_Davis
06-06-2007, 01:02 AM
Stubbs is falling to pieces. He is looking like a sore thumb with a bunch of polished(Turner,Val) and raw potential(Francisco). Obviously Stubbs has Francisco beaten on walks/plate discipline right now, but he is 3 years older and Francisco is much more powerfull.

The age thing means a lot.

When I was in Basic Training, I was 21 and 3 months. There was a series of physical events that everyone did at the beginning, the middle and the end of your training. My scores at the beginning were just average, in the middle there was a marked improvement to about the top quarter, then in the last day of exercises I won the award for the highest scores among 660 soldiers. I attributed it to the mental toughness that a 21-year old can have over a 20, 19, or 18 year-old, and the extra physical development that a 21 year-old can have over a 20, 19, or 18 year-old. There really is a physical and mental difference among those ages. Anyone could have done what I did, but I tried harder and that came from age.

And, what's funny is there were guys who took state in track events, and guys who had black belts in martial arts, and guys who thought they were tough and strong, but in the end, they were all talk. It's different running a couple of miles with boots and a uniform on over a cement track in the heat after already doing other strenuous events. It really came down to who wanted it more.

If Stubbs is enjoying his signing bonus too much and doesn't think he needs to be giving it all he's got, then these are the type of results he can expect to receive, and time lost is time he's not going to get back.

I don't care what anybody says....being sent down was good for Edwin and the results speak for themselves. Most of this stuff is between the head and how much you want it.

dougdirt
06-06-2007, 01:22 AM
I have a question for you Doug what shape is our minors like it seems real good .What is your opinion and anyone who knowsabout minors please respond thanks

The system is clearly heading in the right direction. The Reds have probably the best trio of prospects of anyone in baseball between Homer Bailey, Jay Bruce and Joey Votto who was pretty much all 3 top 25 prospects, with two of them being top 10 prospects.
They also have some real solid arms in the system with guys like Cueto, Wood, Watson and Fisher in starters roles. The bullpen arms are always interesting between Pelland, Medlock and Guevara in AA and then Salmon and McBeth in their AAA/Cincinnati roles. There are some guys in Dayton that are really worth keeping an eye on with Francisco, Stubbs, Valaika and Turner. Danny Dorn, Carson Kainer, Adam Rosales and Craig Tatum are all having good seasons in Sarasota....

The Reds 3 years ago couldn't dream of a system with the type of talent this current one does.

Eric_Davis
06-06-2007, 01:31 AM
Nice to see Dumatrait with a nice outing tonight, too.

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Dumatrait 8.0 4 1 1 3 3 0 3.46
Salmon 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2.25
Stone (L, 3-3) 1.0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1.97

CTA513
06-06-2007, 01:42 AM
Fisher since joining Chattanooga: 37 IP, 28 H, 7 R (5 ER), 10 BB, 41 K

Fisher with Chattanooga & Sarasota: 78 IP, 62 H, 19 R (15 ER) 17 BB, 82 K

dougdirt
06-06-2007, 01:46 AM
Carlos Fisher might see some time in Louisville if he keeps this up

Eric_Davis
06-06-2007, 02:07 AM
Fisher since joining Chattanooga: 37 IP, 28 H, 7 R (5 ER), 10 BB, 41 K

Fisher with Chattanooga & Sarasota: 78 IP, 62 H, 19 R (15 ER) 17 BB, 82 K

How many HR's in Chattanooga? No more than 3, I hope.

TOBTTReds
06-06-2007, 02:22 AM
How many HR's in Chattanooga? No more than 3, I hope.

2 HR's

Eric_Davis
06-06-2007, 02:36 AM
2 HR's

That's a very good number.

tomred
06-06-2007, 03:40 AM
Thanks for the info you do a great job thanks