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flyer85
06-08-2007, 03:35 PM
per C Trent (his qoute in naming the Indians)

here's your lineup:

Cincinnati Homers:
Homer Hopper cf
Homer Phillips 2b
Homer Griffey rf
Homer Conine 1b
Homer Encarnacion 3b
Homer Dunn lf
Homer Gonzalez ss
Homer Ross c
Homer Bailey p

Heath
06-08-2007, 03:37 PM
Homer Narron strikes again.

I'd rather have Homer Simpson managing this ball club.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 03:44 PM
Homer Hamilton gets to sit since his .250 BA against lefties proves he can't hit them :)

RedsManRick
06-08-2007, 03:48 PM
At least we've Homer Youngbody hitting cleanup!

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 03:50 PM
I was thinking they may have Homer Moeller catch tonight since he got to catch Homer Homer in Louisville.

I guess not.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 03:51 PM
Where's Homer Castro?

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Today I am playing the role of Homer Big Klu

50 years ago today (1957), a 9-2 loss at Brooklyn.

Johnny Temple 2b
Frank Robinson lf
Ed Bailey c
Wally Post rf
Gus Bell cf
Don Hoak 3b
George Crowe 1b
Roy McMillan ss
Warren Hacker p

RichRed
06-08-2007, 04:07 PM
Where's Homer Castro?

He'll pinch-hit for Homer Bailey in the 6th, then move to 3rd while Homer Encarnacion grabs some bench. For "defensive purposes."

Redsland
06-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Adam Dunn:

#3 in home runs in the league.

#6 in the lineup.

:bang:

KittyDuran
06-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Well, drat!!! I didn't buy an extra ticket in the Moon Deck to watch the backside of Homer (Dennis) Hopper! :angry:

Maybe Homer Hamilton will come in to pinch hit and a defensive replacement? :luvu:

Chip R
06-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Adam Dunn:

#3 in home runs in the league.

#6 in the lineup.

:bang:

#1 in our hearts. :luvu:

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Adam Dunn:

#3 in home runs in the league.

#6 in the lineup.

:bang:

Leads the team in all the important stats except the mighty BA.

Gotta bury guys who aren't run producers

Heath
06-08-2007, 04:25 PM
Leads the team in all the important stats except the mighty BA.

Gotta bury guys who aren't run producers

That low BA is a symbol of rally killers, you know.

Redsland
06-08-2007, 04:27 PM
Leads the team in all the important stats except the mighty BA.

Gotta bury guys who aren't run producers
Dismally stupid franchise.

I'm getting fed up. FED UP!

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Burying your good hitters is like putting your best starting pitcher at the back of the rotation because you want a "stopper"

dabvu2498
06-08-2007, 04:31 PM
Leads the team in all the important stats except the mighty BA.

Gotta bury guys who aren't run producers


OBP isn't important anymore?

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 04:36 PM
OBP isn't important anymore?

He's #36 in the NL if it is...

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 04:37 PM
45 years ago today (1962), a 10-3 loss at home vs. Philadelphia.

Eddie Kasko 3b
Don Zimmer 2b
Vada Pinson cf
Frank Robinson rf
Wally Post lf
Leo Cardenas ss
Don Pavletich 1b
Hank Foiles c
Johnny Klippstein p

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 04:38 PM
OBP isn't important anymore?

Nope, that's for those moneyball freaks.:devil:

dabvu2498
06-08-2007, 04:38 PM
He's #36 in the NL if it is...

But he doesn't "lead the team."

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 04:47 PM
But he doesn't "lead the team."

Nope JR does, but how important can OBP be if Conine and his .338 vs lefties is batting cleanup? :)

WVRedsFan
06-08-2007, 04:47 PM
What? No Castro?

Ah Carumba....:eek:

Hoosier Red
06-08-2007, 04:57 PM
What? No Castro?

Ah Carumba....:eek:

I guess WVRedsFan has given up with Castro not starting ;)

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 04:58 PM
You know, if Homer Bailey was a Yankee or Red Sox's pitcher, Baseball Tonight would have started at 9am

Chip R
06-08-2007, 05:00 PM
You know, if Homer Bailey was a Yankee or Red Sox's pitcher, Baseball Tonight would have started at 9am

:laugh: It's funny because it's true.

Tommyjohn25
06-08-2007, 05:05 PM
You know, if Homer Bailey was a Yankee or Red Sox's pitcher, Baseball Tonight would have started at 9am

Thank you Matt, that's the first time I've laughed out loud today.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 05:26 PM
You know, if Homer Bailey was a Yankee or Red Sox's pitcher, Baseball Tonight would have started at 9am

After televising all of his AAA starts for the past 2 months

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 05:27 PM
After televising all of his AAA starts for the past 2 months

They'd start the show off with a video of his birth

jesusfan
06-08-2007, 05:28 PM
Round 38: Ari Ronick, Portland U

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 05:29 PM
Round 38: Ari Ronick, Portland U

Ari is a cool name

Puffy
06-08-2007, 06:53 PM
So, is anything special happening with this game tonight? I mean, is there a special reason I should watch this game? Cause I haven't heard anything...

pedro
06-08-2007, 06:56 PM
So, is anything special happening with this game tonight? I mean, is there a special reason I should watch this game? Cause I haven't heard anything...

Yeah, it's George Grande talks about the Cardinals even though they're not in town anymore night.

Oh wait, that's every night.

pedro
06-08-2007, 06:57 PM
What do you want to bet George compares Homer to someone on the Cardinals tonight or says how lucky he is to not have to face Sir Albert?

Puffy
06-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Hey, has anyone ever heard of this Homer Bailey chap? Is he supposed to be good or something, something?

Viva la Juan Castro!

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Ari is a cool name

If you say his name fast (and probably mispronounce it like I have), it kinda sounds like "How ironic".

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 06:59 PM
Hey, has anyone ever heard of this Homer Bailey chap? Is he supposed to be good or something, something?

Viva la Juan Castro!

Unfortunately, this Homer fella is no Castro, though I hear his range is a little bit better, and his bat is supposed to be better.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:03 PM
His name is Homer - on that alone he should hit cleanup whenever he pitches.

TOBTTReds
06-08-2007, 07:04 PM
Quick reminder of Tim Lincecum's first inning this year:

Rollins: Single
Victorino: HR
Utley: K
Howard: K
Burrell: Walk
Rowand: K

A lot of bad and good in there. Lincecum is doing fine now, just want to keep the over reactions down no matter how he does, especially against a great lineup.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Hey MrCinatit -

Is that really your book? Thats fantastic - congrats on being published!!

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:06 PM
So, I'm thinking that Homer will put up a quality start. That's a decidedly optimistic prediction, but I'm feeling good about things tonight.

Nevertheless, I have ordered chocolate cake, in case things go badly.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Quick reminder of Tim Lincecum's first inning this year:

Rollins: Single
Victorino: HR
Utley: K
Howard: K
Burrell: Walk
Rowand: K

A lot of bad and good in there. Lincecum is doing fine now, just want to keep the over reactions down no matter how he does, especially against a great lineup.

Hughes was lit up pretty well in his debut - then came back and took a no-no into the seventh. So getting your feet wet has to count for something today.

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Hey MrCinatit -

Is that really your book? Thats fantastic - congrats on being published!!

Yeah, and thanks - though I will say I am a bit disappointed in the editing. Oh well, first book and all that jazz.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:07 PM
So, I'm thinking that Homer will put up a quality start. That's a decidedly optimistic prediction, but I'm feeling good about things tonight.

Nevertheless, I have ordered chocolate cake, in case things go badly.

Yes, I've decided to watch naked - so if things start going bad I can switch seemlessly to porn.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Alright kid, let's see what you got

pedro
06-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Hey MrCinatit -

Is that really your book? Thats fantastic - congrats on being published!!

double that. sounds really interesting too....

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah, and thanks - though I will say I am a bit disappointed in the editing. Oh well, first book and all that jazz.

Shoot - your posts on here are so devoid of value and poor grammitically I would have never guessed you had a book in you.

:evil:

I kid! Thats really a great accomplishment :thumbup:

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Also, let the record show that I have strong feelings of dislike for Cliff Lee, for hitting Junior 3 years ago when he was sitting on 498 homers.

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:09 PM
Am I the only one not eating cake naked?

Tom Servo
06-08-2007, 07:09 PM
Stop!








Homer Time!

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Stop!








Homer Time!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/mc-hammer.jpg

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:13 PM
Am I the only one not eating cake naked?

I am doing neither - I merely ordered cake. The nakedness is all Puffy.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:13 PM
Am I the only one not eating cake naked?
We're naked in here?


:help:

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:13 PM
Shoot - your posts on here are so devoid of value and poor grammitically I would have never guessed you had a book in you.

:evil:

I kid! Thats really a great accomplishment :thumbup:

I used up all of my words in the book. Now, I just post on message boards, write political speeches, and fill out lineups for the Re...uh. Ignore that last part.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:13 PM
MC Hammer pic, Bailey is going to go all Steve Nebraska on the Indians

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:14 PM
That curve looked evil.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:14 PM
1st batter....strike out

:)

Tom Servo
06-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Take that, Grady!

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:15 PM
Stay with the fastball kid - Sizemore is not catching up to it. Ride it tonight....

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:15 PM
I like pitchers that throw in the mid 90s

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:15 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/mc-hammer.jpg

excellent posting skill

RBA
06-08-2007, 07:16 PM
I like pitchers that throw in the mid 90s

That wears a Reds uniform for a change.

TeamBoone
06-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Nope JR does, but how important can OBP be if Conine and his .338 vs lefties is batting cleanup? :)

Hey, Krono. You're getting pretty good at looking up those stats. Remember when we were learning together?

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
The curve hung...

Stormy
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Stay with the fastball kid - Sizemore is not catching up to it. Ride it tonight....

That fastball is on you like, right.... NOW. I haven't seen a Reds' pitcher have opposing batters so far behind a fastball since Williamson (and unlike Bailey's easy motion, his required maximum effort).

Rarely do you see ugly swings by guys like Sizemore and Hafner... as Welsh just mentioned. He looks good, but Martinez (and Hafner) were the guys who worried me tonight (with Peralta/Garko sitting).

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/mc-hammer.jpg

Stop! Homer Time!

Tom Servo
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
The no-hitter is gone.

;)

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Hey, Krono. You're getting pretty good at looking up those stats. Remember when we were learning together?

Thank goodness for ESPN stat splits :)

Gallen5862
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
What happened with the hung curve?

Puffy
06-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Pronk. Single.

There goes the no-hitter major league debut opportunity

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:20 PM
The lady in the neon green behind home plate is hurting my eyes.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:21 PM
What the F was that Hopper and Dunn?

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:21 PM
I don't want to interrupt, but why on earth isn't Hamilton playing tonight?

Lefties hit Lee about 60 points higher than righties do (something like .280 to .340).

Jim Leyland even let Curtis Granderson bat against Lee. Holy cow this makes no sense.

Tom Servo
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
That was some lousy defense.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Hopper...hit the cutoff man, will you please?

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Pronk runs like a cement truck

Stormy
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Homer's first ER comes at the hands of his goofy OF defense.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
If Hopper hits the cutoff man Hafner would have been out by 30 feet

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Pronk. Single.

There goes the no-hitter major league debut opportunity

Everything will be fine. He just needs to get out of the inning.

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
back to back hits with 2 strikes on the batter...sigh

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Anyone notice Bailey shook off 2 signs from Ross before that hit? interesting

Marc D
06-08-2007, 07:22 PM
pretty bad fundamental team for all the lip service paid to it by the braintrust.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 07:23 PM
I don't want to interrupt, but why on earth isn't Hamilton playing tonight?
two words ... Jerry Narron

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:23 PM
What the F was that Hopper and Dunn?

That was an amazingly bad play.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:23 PM
A lot of pitches...

dfs
06-08-2007, 07:24 PM
What the F was that Hopper and Dunn?
Not Dunn's fault. It was Hopper's play and Hopper's throw.

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:24 PM
It'll be 30 pitches in the first inning. With the way the Tribe takes pitches, Bailey is gone in the 4th.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:24 PM
That was an amazingly bad play.

Yeah, I haven't seen much from Hopper that I've liked.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 07:24 PM
That was an amazingly bad play.all Hopper had to do was hit the cutoff man and he threw it way over Gonzo's head.

jesusfan
06-08-2007, 07:25 PM
Just droppin in to say we suck at fundamental baseball...

RFS62
06-08-2007, 07:25 PM
At least 30 pitches there.

How many off speed?

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:25 PM
I don't want to interrupt, but why on earth isn't Hamilton playing tonight?

Lefties hit Lee about 60 points higher than righties do (something like .280 to .340).

Jim Leyland even let Curtis Granderson bat against Lee. Holy cow this makes no sense.

I doubt Narron looks that far into it when making his lineups, he just sees leftie and makes the appropriate adjustments

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:25 PM
Hey Homer, welcome to atrocious baseball presented to you in a big poopy colored bow.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen much from Hopper that I've liked.

Hey now..he puts the ball in play and should be starting over Dunn :cool:

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Maybe but I couldnt tell where Dunn was positioned.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
I doubt Narron looks that far into it when making his lineups, he just sees leftie and makes the appropriate adjustments
Narron effects games more than any manager i have seen. Usually they can only impact so much but man does he set them up to fail just by his lack of homework.

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
all Hopper had to do was hit the cutoff man and he threw it way over Gonzo's head.

Gonzo throwing his hands up in exasperation as the ball flew over his head was a perfect indication that it was not the right play. Looks like Hopper was trying to throw the guy out at home a la Dave Parker, but did it with Steve Sax's arm.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Maybe but I couldnt tell where Dunn was positioned.doesn't matter, he was running toward RC. If he fields it he has to stop and becaue he is RH has to spin all the way around before he can throw.

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:29 PM
I doubt Narron looks that far into it when making his lineups, he just sees leftie and makes the appropriate adjustments

I think a lot of managers are about twenty years behind the learning curve in baseball.

Who doesn't know that Cliff Lee is an equal opportunity pitcher?

Gosh, I'm sorry. It's just frustrating that one of our talented hitters is going to sit all weekend long because the opponent has lefties going.

This was the perfect night to give him a shot.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Hey now..he puts the ball in play and should be starting over Dunn :cool:

don't forget that he's fast - haven't you recently consulted the Marty Brennamen guide?

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Woo!

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Phillips Gets It Back!

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Phillips!


How...I mean HOW...did that ball get out of there? GABP, with an assist, I guess.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:30 PM
:phillips:

:jump:

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
doesn't matter, he was running toward RC. If he fields it he has to stop and becaue he is RH has to spin all the way around before he can throw.
Maybe, but Dunn may have not rolled it to hom like Hopper did... Oh well. Phillips doing his trot...

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
It'll be 30 pitches in the first inning. With the way the Tribe takes pitches, Bailey is gone in the 4th.

If that's what it is....then that's what it is.

Have Santos ready

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
don't forget that he's fast - haven't you recently consulted the Marty Brennamen guide?

I bet Hopper is a run producer as well, somehow by getting how..he produced that run :D

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
The only thing that can overcome Narron tonight is Cliff Lee.

He is truly terrible.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:34 PM
I bet Hopper is a run producer as well, somehow by getting how..he produced that run :D

Well, he did produce that run. By grounding out to third, he lowered his own batting average, and therefore implicitly encouraged everyone else on the team to subsequently raise their individual batting averages, and thus feel comparatively better about themselves.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Maybe, but Dunn may have not rolled it to hom like Hopper did....
it was a much easier play for Hopper, he made a really bad one.

GridironGrace
06-08-2007, 07:34 PM
hello all.. long time no see

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:35 PM
This whole 745 OPS Conine bats 4th thing? Makes no sense.

Falls City Beer
06-08-2007, 07:36 PM
This whole 745 OPS Conine bats 4th thing? Makes no sense.

I'm thinking the same thing; the guy has so little pop it's ridiculous. He's been giving the team reasonable ABs, but he's in no way a true 4 hitter. Just goofy.

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:36 PM
This whole 745 OPS Conine bats 4th thing? Makes no sense.

I think it has more dramatic effect when Dunn bats 6th. More anticipation.

Gallen5862
06-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Space Shuttle Launches in 1 Min. Hopefully brings a Reds win.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Homer is looking a tad wild.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Walk.

Settle, Homer....settle

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Space Shuttle Launches in 1 Min. Hopefully brings a Reds win.

Thanks for the reminder, I wanted to see that:)

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:38 PM
The good thing about Homer is that #34 isnt Claussen

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Space Shuttle Launches in 1 Min. Hopefully brings a Reds win.

I can see it from my house and it's a few hundred miles away probably.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:39 PM
That was close

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:39 PM
I thought that was destroyed.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:39 PM
I think it has more dramatic effect when Dunn bats 6th. More anticipation.

Solid point, and it's also convenient for those attending the game who want to frequent the concession stands during the first inning.

I'm really glad we've gotten into Narron's head, and deciphered his sound logic.

Marc D
06-08-2007, 07:40 PM
nm wrong screen

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:42 PM
Solid point, and it's also convenient for those attending the game who want to frequent the concession stands during the first inning.

I'm really glad we've gotten into Narron's head, and deciphered his sound logic.

At least we have the reason. I'm happy now, honestly. And for those folks getting to the game late, they don't have to worry about seeing any good Reds hitters.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:42 PM
nm wrong screen
i was wondering what that was refering to... :lol:

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 07:42 PM
I'm really glad we've gotten into Narron's head, and deciphered his sound logic.
True, but I fear that once in Narron's head we will begin to think like him :help:

Stormy
06-08-2007, 07:42 PM
This whole 745 OPS Conine bats 4th thing? Makes no sense.

Yea, Conine pegged as 'cleanup' against all LHP, despite his rancid 745OPS, whereas Hamilton (as Dom mentions) can't get a shot against a LHP who isn't hard on LH hitters. If ever the word 'braintrust' was a misnomer, it's in relation to these rubes.

Homer's curveball looks very, very erratic, and I don't like him 'reaching back' for that little extra on his excess ratio of fastballs once he gets 2 strikes. I love the looks of the kid, but I just can't embrace him being here at this time or in this capacity, AT ALL. I'd love to, but I can't.

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:42 PM
I can see it from my house and it's a few hundred miles away probably.

I would like to see a launch in person some day. Still amazes me they can get those things off the ground - though, of course, my heart beats a bit faster when lift off begins.

Gallen5862
06-08-2007, 07:43 PM
What were the inning summaries? how did homer get the 3rd out last inning?

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:43 PM
True, but I fear that once in Narron's head we will begin to think like him :help:
Im currently in his head and its earily similiar to a sound studio with no equipment... just foam insulation everywhere....

CrackerJack
06-08-2007, 07:45 PM
fly out to CF - 2nd out, ground out to SS by Lee - 3rd out

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:45 PM
I would like to see a launch in person some day. Still amazes me they can get those things off the ground - though, of course, my heart beats a bit faster when lift off begins.


From Tampa- or heck, even Sarasota- it looks like a fireball speeding straight up. You can see it for about less than a minute or so until it dosappears high in the sky. It just finished raining here so didn't get to see it.

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:45 PM
What were the inning summaries? how did homer get the 3rd out last inning?

Liner to JR in RF

GridironGrace
06-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Has there been anything said about a pitch limit for Bailey 2nite?? already up to 47 Pitches..

Great to see he K'd his first MLB batter though. thats just cool

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Im currently in his head and its earily similiar to a sound studio with no equipment... just foam insulation everywhere....

Is there an infinite number of monkeys in there typing out lineup cards?
That would explain a lot.

TeamBoone
06-08-2007, 07:46 PM
What were the inning summaries? how did homer get the 3rd out last inning?

Oops, I'm slacking tonight. I believe it was a fly out to Hopper.

CrackerJack
06-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Homer looks just like his mom - they are interviewing his parents in the stands on TV right now (live)

WVRedsFan
06-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Yea, Conine pegged as 'cleanup' against all LHP, despite his rancid 745OPS, whereas Hamilton (as Dom mentions) can't get a shot against a LHP who isn't hard on LH hitters. If ever the word 'braintrust' was a misnomer, it's in relation to these rubes.

Homer's curveball looks very, very erratic, and I don't like him 'reaching back' for that little extra on his excess ratio of fastballs once he gets 2 strikes. I love the looks of the kid, but I just can't embrace him being here at this time or in this capacity, AT ALL. I'd love to, but I can't.

I totally agree. It's a move of desperation from an incompetent team that has nothing else to keep fans interested. I hope it works, but I'm afraid it's too soon.

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:47 PM
I love Homer's mom.

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 07:47 PM
I just realized - Edwin is batting AFTER Conine.
Insanity.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:48 PM
Is there an infinite number of monkeys in there typing out lineup cards?
That would explain a lot.
Its actually a bingo machine with the players numbers on it. I feel cold...so.... cold....

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:49 PM
I totally agree. It's a move of desperation from an incompetent team that has nothing else to keep fans interested. I hope it works, but I'm afraid it's too soon.

Yeah, I don't like him up here really at all - seems totally economically driven - but now that he's here, I'm really hoping it turns out well for him. It could be potentially disasterous if it doesn't.

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 07:49 PM
I love Homer's mom.

he looks just like her

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:49 PM
I love Homer's mom.
I think Jim Day loves Homer's sisters. :lol:

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:50 PM
I just realized - Edwin is batting AFTER Conine.
Insanity.

Conine and Castro must have some illicit photos of Narron, or something.

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:52 PM
I just realized - Edwin is batting AFTER Conine.
Insanity.


There isn't a team in baseball that does this- maybe Pittsburgh- where the lineup makes no sense.

Hopper looks like a leadoff hitter, I'll but him here, Conine was good in the late 90's, he can bat clean-up...it is so sad. He is taking my favorite team and making it hard for me to watch (but I do lol).

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:52 PM
I think Jim Day loves Homer's sisters. :lol:

How old are they? :evil:

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:52 PM
How many pitches has Homer thrown going to the 2nd?

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:53 PM
Now it's round 2...now we see what he's made of

Stormy
06-08-2007, 07:53 PM
How many pitches has Homer thrown going to the 2nd?

47.

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:54 PM
"Pitch count? We dont need no stinking pitch count" - Narron

Hollcat
06-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Bailey's got to get his pitches down. he's left almost everything up so far. Cleveland will be mashing it if he doesn't bring it down, so far they have taken several good pitches to hit, I'm thinking maybe they just want to get a look at a pitch or too is why they have laid off of them so far.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Sizemore :owned:


:D

smith288
06-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Grady is clueless up there against Homer

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 07:55 PM
He is taking my favorite team and making it hard for me to watch (but I do lol).

You know, I was thinking that exact same thing the other night. I pick the absolute worst teams to like and root for. I can't remember the last time any of my "teams" have won something significant.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:55 PM
That was a nasty curve....if he can get that thing mastered...wow

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:56 PM
Bailey's got to get his pitches down. he's left almost everything up so far. Cleveland will be mashing it if he doesn't bring it down, so far they have taken several good pitches to hit, I'm thinking maybe they just want to get a look at a pitch or too is why they have laid off of them so far.

This team takes a lot of pitches. Second in runs scored, it tells ya something.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 07:57 PM
Squeezed

StillFunkyB
06-08-2007, 07:57 PM
Bailey's got to get his pitches down. he's left almost everything up so far. Cleveland will be mashing it if he doesn't bring it down, so far they have taken several good pitches to hit, I'm thinking maybe they just want to get a look at a pitch or too is why they have laid off of them so far.

I was thinking the same thing. Too many pitches left upstairs means trouble later on, especially with guys like Vic Martinez, and Pronk.

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:57 PM
That was a pretty pitch

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 07:57 PM
wow, i'd like to know where that pitch was??

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 07:58 PM
good inning

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 07:58 PM
You know, I was thinking that exact same thing the other night. I pick the absolute worst teams to like and root for. I can't remember the last time any of my "teams" have won something significant.

I'm going to get killed for saying this, but I actually start off the day talking about the -er- Devil Rays with my employees.

Hamilton keeps me coming back, though.

Stormy
06-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Nasty fastball inside to Sizemore on that 2-1 pitch. He's solid at busting LH's and jamming them, which is a great weapon. He's really been in on the hands of both Sizemore and Hafner, so far.

Sizemore K's; Blake GO to Gonzo; Hafner GO to Gonzo. Great inning by Homer.

StillFunkyB
06-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Who runs worse, Pronk or Casey?

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 07:59 PM
61 pitches so far?

CrackerJack
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Homer's control seems to be fine to me, tonight. He has a tendency to throw a little wild high pitch - but what I've seen are unhittable ones. His fastballs seem to be down now.

They're hitting his fastballs into the ground and getting under his off-speed pitches.

So far, so good. Lots of movement, other than his fastball which seems awfully straight - guess with his delivery and consistency at 94-95 he can get away with it? I don't know, first time I've actually watched him.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Well, still naked. No porn yet though. So we've got that going for us - - which is nice.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
I'm going to get killed for saying this, but I actually start off the day talking about the -er- Devil Rays with my employees.

Hamilton keeps me coming back, though.

Hey, no guilt Dom. I team-cheat on the Reds all the time. I am a serial cheater. I have had prolonged discussions about the Yankees, Mets, Nationals, and Pirates (lol) at lunches the past week.

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
I think Pronk has lead based shoes.

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
A nother inning like that and he might make it though the 5th to be eligible for the victory before the bullpen blows it. :bang:

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Well, still naked. No porn yet though. So we've got that going for us - - which is nice.

you need picture in picture viewing;)

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 08:01 PM
I love the looks of the kid, but I just can't embrace him being here at this time or in this capacity, AT ALL. I'd love to, but I can't.


I don't think it hurts anything to be honest. Homer might have been two months away, but he was doing pretty well. Not Gallardo or Lincecum well, but pretty good.

I say let him learn as long as he isn't getting beaten up too badly.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Davis Ross pulls his head off the ball an awful lot....

Just sayin'

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:02 PM
"Pitch count? We dont need no stinking pitch count" - Narron
Pitch counts are for losers, real men throw 120 pitches every start.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:02 PM
He got a piece of one!

Spitball
06-08-2007, 08:03 PM
I don't want to interrupt, but why on earth isn't Hamilton playing tonight?

I totally agree, but...


Lefties hit Lee about 60 points higher than righties do (something like .280 to .340).

That is a fairly small sample from just this season. Over the last three seasons, he has pretty even splits with a slight advantage versus lefties.


Jim Leyland even let Curtis Granderson bat against Lee. Holy cow this makes no sense.

Actually, over the last three seasons, Lee has faced 507 lefties and 1776 righties. Over the same span, Westbrook has faced 1210 lefties and 1266 righties. I'm not defending Narron because I would rather see Hamilton in there. These numbers just show that most managers go with the platoon.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:03 PM
Hey, no guilt Dom. I team-cheat on the Reds all the time. I am a serial cheater. I have had prolonged discussions about the Yankees, Mets, Nationals, and Pirates (lol) at lunches the past week.

You are a smelly pirate hooker. Why don't you go back to ***** Island!

corkedbat
06-08-2007, 08:04 PM
If that 1st pitch to Homer was a strike to a righty why wasn't it a strike to the lefty last inning?

GridironGrace
06-08-2007, 08:04 PM
OMGGGGGGGG

what an AB BAILEY!!! lol

worked it 3-2

pedro
06-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Homer looks pretty good but I still think he should be in Louisville working on his secondary pitches. I haven't seen him throw a decent curve yet really.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:05 PM
He did pretty good in that at bat

GridironGrace
06-08-2007, 08:05 PM
hahaha

seen 8 pitches in his first AB lol

nice.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:06 PM
OK, I'm convinced. Homer is a better hitter than Castro.

That is all.

pedro
06-08-2007, 08:06 PM
OK, I'm convinced. Homer is a better hitter than Castro.

That is all.

I'm convinced that EVERYBODY is a better hitter than Castro

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 08:07 PM
That is a fairly small sample from just this season. Over the last three seasons, he has pretty even splits with a slight advantage versus lefties.

Yes, but that assumes that Cliff Lee today is the Cliff Lee of two years ago.

Give those numbers to the lefties who are hitting .340 off of him. I like career numbers, don't get me wrong, but why sit one of your best hitters against someone who very recently isn't having success?

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:07 PM
I'm convinced that EVERYBODY is a better hitter than Castro

Touche

Aronchis
06-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Bailey looks to be modestly more talented than Harang. Bit better fastball and more ability on his breaking pitches. But hardly the rare HofF "ace" arm that everybody has fantasies about.

But you have rotation full of Bailey's and Harang's, that is just as good.

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 08:08 PM
I really think Jr should homer off of Lee this game - karmic retribution and all.

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Bailey looks to be modestly more talented than Harang. Bit better fastball and more ability on his breaking pitches. But hardly the rare HofF "ace" arm that everybody has fantasies about.

But you have rotation full of Bailey's and Harang's, that is just as good.

I'm glad you can tell this after three innings.

So, when are you taking your scouting professional?

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Homer looks pretty good but I still think he should be in Louisville working on his secondary pitches. I haven't seen him throw a decent curve yet really.

Work on it here. It's not like we're in it. They could hit 6 balls into the stands tonight and we're still 10 games or so out.

TeamBoone
06-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Who runs worse, Pronk or Casey?

Speaking of running... can someone tell me why it appears that Phillips runs "crooked" for want of a better term? I say "appears" because I'm not sure if he really does.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Nice curve!

pedro
06-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Work on it here. It's not like we're in it. They could hit 6 balls into the stands tonight and we're still 10 games or so out.


To much potential for damage IMO.

pedro
06-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Speaking of running... can someone tell me why it appears that Phillips runs "crooked" for want of a better term? I say "appears" because I'm not sure if he really does.

He does. It's weird. My cat does it too.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:11 PM
I'm convinced that EVERYBODY is a better hitter than Castro
Hey now..he was batting 2nd last night...he's a "ballplayer" :cool:

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Homer looks pretty good but I still think he should be in Louisville working on his secondary pitches. I haven't seen him throw a decent curve yet really.

not for a strike anyway....

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Hey, no guilt Dom. I team-cheat on the Reds all the time. I am a serial cheater. I have had prolonged discussions about the Yankees, Mets, Nationals, and Pirates (lol) at lunches the past week.

Fantasy changes everything and so does the internet. I just realized the other day that this version of the team depresses me. Maybe because the don't look 1982 bad, but they are.


To much potential for damage IMO.


Like mental? Physical?

Puffy
06-08-2007, 08:14 PM
He threw a nice one to Martinez for strike two - I think that was the first "good" one

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Now he's in a tough spot...

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Things not going well this inning

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Can we please get Hamilton in center? He can actually throw...

Stormy
06-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Bailey looks to be modestly more talented than Harang. Bit better fastball and more ability on his breaking pitches. But hardly the rare HofF "ace" arm that everybody has fantasies about.

That's silly. You're already assuming that the quality of his pitches, control, mental prowess, and pitching acumen have all 'topped out' in the first 3 innings of his career. Harang was a nothing at age 21, and frankly was mediocre and still had almost none of Homer's arsenal at age 25-26 for that matter. By your measure, Jake Peavy would have already revealed his ceiling as a 4.50ERA mediocre K/BB rate guy when he was posting such numbers at age 21, rather than the league elite ace he has become.

If Homer puts everything at his disposal together, over time, he can have a much, much higher ceiling than Harang IMO. We have no idea what all the staff has Homer working on tonight, and what impact it has on his overall effectiveness.

I would prepare myself for Homer to go through the same steep learning curves, and occasional drubbings that all youthful bright arms go through when pitching in MLB at age 21.

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Hit the cut off man! WOOHOO!

BCubb2003
06-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Speaking of running... can someone tell me why it appears that Phillips runs "crooked" for want of a better term? I say "appears" because I'm not sure if he really does.

Isn't it some kind of a "flaps down" signature homerun trot?

Dom Heffner
06-08-2007, 08:16 PM
With the strikeout, you can get out of anything. Hang in there.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Homer has excellent stuff but he still needs to refine his command quite a bit. As bad as this team is there really isn't any reason he needs to do it at the major league level.

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:17 PM
room service on Nixon's tab tonight...that's about as bad a job of baserunning as you'll see

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Hit the cut off man! WOOHOO!He didn't have enough arm to throw it over Conine's head on that play

IslandRed
06-08-2007, 08:18 PM
That at-bat against Victor Martinez is the type that will be used to prove both sides of the argument. He obviously needs some more seasoning to know how to put away hitters like Martinez. At the same time, very few Triple-A hitters wouldn't have whiffed on those up-the-ladder fastballs Martinez fouled off.

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:18 PM
That's silly. You're already assuming that the quality of his pitches, control, mental prowess, and pitching acumen have all 'topped out' in the first 3 innings of his career. Harang was a nothing at age 21, and frankly was mediocre and still had almost none of Homer's arsenal at age 25-26 for that matter. By your measure, Jake Peavy would have already revealed his ceiling as a 4.50ERA mediocre K/BB rate guy when he was posting such numbers at age 21, rather than the league elite ace he has become.

If Homer puts everything at his disposal together, over time, he can have a much, much higher ceiling than Harang IMO. We have no idea what all the staff has Homer working on tonight, and what impact it has on his overall effectiveness.

I would prepare myself for Homer to go through the same steep learning curves, and occasional drubbings that all youthful bright arms go through when pitching in MLB at age 21.


I think based on Homer's stuff, he's instantly the highest ceiling arm on the staff...it just might be a bit bumpy until his command gets sharper...

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:18 PM
how many full counts so far tonight

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:19 PM
Balk.

Bailey with the rolling eyes.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:20 PM
Balk....what did he do?

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:20 PM
how many full counts so far tonight

maybe 6? I was charting the game but my girls needed some ice cream... :help:

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:20 PM
Ross wisely goes out to calm him down

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:20 PM
So what is it about the minors that would help his control? Dont want to prematurely unflate his numbers for his sure to be HOF career?

TOBTTReds
06-08-2007, 08:21 PM
he thought there was time, and stepped off from a windup position with his left foot, which is the wrong foot.

Stormy
06-08-2007, 08:21 PM
room service on Nixon's tab tonight...that's about as bad a job of baserunning as you'll see

No doubt. Hopefully it helped run the Indians out of a big inning, or at the very least, out of a potentially much more taxing inning worth of pitches on Homer's arm. Nice to have a pitcher due up, after the somewhat unusual IBB, regardless.

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:21 PM
Homer showing his accuracy in delivering the IBB

blumj
06-08-2007, 08:21 PM
That at-bat against Victor Martinez is the type that will be used to prove both sides of the argument. He obviously needs some more seasoning to know how to put away hitters like Martinez. At the same time, very few Triple-A hitters wouldn't have whiffed on those up-the-ladder fastballs Martinez fouled off.
Yep. It's hard to learn those lessons where the hitters won't be able to teach them to you.

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Yep. It's hard to learn those lessons where the hitters won't be able to teach them to you.
Bingo

Lessons to fine tune his skills that otherwise wouldnt learn in AAA

KronoRed
06-08-2007, 08:23 PM
Lets all be thankful tonight that the NL does not use the DH and Lee had to hit there

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:24 PM
Homer certainly doesn't have near the stuff of Lincecum.

Stormy
06-08-2007, 08:24 PM
So what is it about the minors that would help his control? Dont want to prematurely unflate his numbers for his sure to be HOF career?

Repetition in an atmosphere where you can master your pitches, at a commensurate skill level, without having to maximize effort to record every out. That is how, and where, successful young pitchers usually develop their command, and their secondary pitches. It makes perfect sense... and tonight in the minors, Homer could have thrown a dozen 'good' curves, and a handful of solid change-ups... rather than simply using them for show and going dead red fastball on 90% of his pitches.

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:25 PM
looks like 91 pitches so far

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 08:25 PM
You are a smelly pirate hooker. Why don't you go back to ***** Island!

This spoken from someone who called up (what's the politically correct term nowadays?) a call girl and then hid from her in a bar?;)

CTA513
06-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Bailey is at 91 pitches after 4 innings.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:26 PM
Homer certainly doesn't have near the stuff of Lincecum.

Your basing this on 4 innings....that's not fair. He's still putting it all together, and there's nothing wrong with finishing that process against the best. You can learn a lot by making mistakes against big leaguers if you have the mental makeup to handle it, which I believe he does.


Tim Linecum also went to college....college pitchers are usually ready (or polished) sooner than HS pitchers.

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:27 PM
error on Blake

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:27 PM
that ate up blake...should have been stopped, but we'll take it

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:27 PM
that was an easy play, scoring is atrocious

Stormy
06-08-2007, 08:28 PM
looks like 91 pitches so far

Exactly, 91 pitches through 4 innings... That means I'd be VERY conservative with him in the 5th inning, going through the heart of a tough lineup as he likely passes the 100 pitch mark. Hopefully Narron has his first clue since St. Swiven's Day, and keeps a close eye on the kid.

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Does anyone know when they put up the home run countdown for Junior?

Marc D
06-08-2007, 08:31 PM
I would consider calling it a day for HB. he's pitched decent and has only given up 2.

Top of the order and he's near 100 pitches. Let him leave with some confidence.

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:31 PM
So what is it about the minors that would help his control? Dont want to prematurely unflate his numbers for his sure to be HOF career?

I think the point is that in the minors Homer can afford to make mistakes when featuring his secondary stuff because really those games don't count.

Learning the lessons in GABP could mean losses.

Right now with Homer, the Reds probably are in a win-win situation. They're only ten out so if they catch lightning in a bottle with Homer, they tighten the race and maybe pull off a miracle while definately getting more butts in the seats. If Homer struggles a bit or the Reds keep floundering, Homer probably still stimulates ticket sales while his mistakes don't really matter.

BTW, King felix had a higher BB/9 during his final season in the minors than Homer had in Louisville this year (though to be fair Felix's K rate was much better).

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Does anyone know when they put up the home run countdown for Junior?

Hopefully soon. 24 away right now. Though I could see him going over 600 in another uniform to be honest.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:31 PM
:jump:

MrCinatit
06-08-2007, 08:32 PM
YoungBlood!

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:32 PM
conine!!!! this is homer's game now:thumbup:

flyer85
06-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Lee might want to ditch that curve ball

jojo
06-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Anyone know how many pitches Homer will be allowed tonight?

Stormy
06-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Was there any doubt the moment Conine's usage was questioned, that he would deliver a key HR tonight? Get one more IP for Homer, and let the bullpen redeem itself by getting him a win. :) That's some wishful thinking.

Matt700wlw
06-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Learning the lessons in GABP could mean losses.



Like they've done all season...

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Learning the lessons in GABP could mean losses.


So basically, nothing changes which is kinda my point.

Kc61
06-08-2007, 08:34 PM
Wish the Reds had Conine 5 years ago. Guy really has an idea how to hit.

Red in Chicago
06-08-2007, 08:34 PM
Was there any doubt the moment Conine's usage was questioned, that he would deliver a key HR tonight? Get one more IP for Homer, and let the bullpen redeem itself by getting him a win. :) That's some wishful thinking.

very wishful thinking...just keep stanton out of the game

TeamBoone
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Was there any doubt the moment Conine's usage was questioned, that he would deliver a key HR tonight?

He's got some pretty darn good protection tonight. I'm not saying that's the answer, but it sure can't hurt.

smith288
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Can I just say that interleague play sucks?

letsgojunior
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Was there any doubt the moment Conine's usage was questioned, that he would deliver a key HR tonight? Get one more IP for Homer, and let the bullpen redeem itself by getting him a win. :) That's some wishful thinking.

Hey now - we established that Conine hitting 4th was key for concession stand sales and general team camraderie.;)