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06-08-2007, 05:59 PM
Freel update: Talked to Ryan Freel. He said he has no idea when he'll be back. He's still having severe headaches. When asked if he thought it was career-threatening, he said, "I don't really want to think about that."

He said there are very few things he remembers from that day. He doesn't remember the play, but he does remember looking up and seeing people looking fown at him from the stands. And he remembers being in the ambulance.

Freel said the first dive days he spent entirely in bed. with headaches, nausea and disorientation. He will be seeing Dr. Kremcheck here soon and expects to see even more doctors.

This is certainly not a quick fix. Freel estimated that he's had 10 concussions in his life, but none had the lingering effects this one has.



06-08-2007, 06:03 PM
Sounds awful, poor guy.

Danny Serafini
06-08-2007, 06:13 PM
That's ugly. With that many concussions it's not really a surprise that this one bit him as bad as it has.

06-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Wow! I had no idea he's that bad off. Get better, Ryan!

What are the papers saying? Anyone know in a nutshell? I don't remember reading anything this dire. I thought he was coming along well.

06-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the update. that sucks.

06-08-2007, 10:37 PM
I'd sit him for the rest of the year, period.

Our season is over, so by no means do we "need" him. Why risk anything further at this point?

06-08-2007, 10:41 PM
lil early to be "over" aint it? i mean a nice 10 game run and we back lol blah

anyways sounds like post concussion syndrom

06-08-2007, 10:45 PM
lil early to be "over" aint it? i mean a nice 10 game run and we back lol blah

This team is done, no matter how great Bailey looked tonight, I agree with Ed, shut him down, no reason to risk something that serious.

Sea Ray
06-09-2007, 12:14 AM
I think he'll be fine.

When asked if he thought it was career-threatening, he said, "I don't really want to think about that."

What a stupid question to ask "the victim". For crying out loud, he feels awful and he's suffering from severe headaches and someone asks him this? Don't ya think he's feeling bad enough at this point? He's not a doctor.

With all the concussions he's had, it's not surprising that this one has hit him hard. Luckily baseball is not a contact sport and coming back while avoiding more blows to the head can be expected.

06-09-2007, 01:18 AM
10 concussions? Wow!

Back in high school, we had a kid who had three concussions playing football and the doctors shut him down. Recently, another kid was shut down for the same reason. My guess is that he will not be fine, at least this year. It's time tht Ryan Freel consider that his wreckless syle of play needs to be tempered somewhat. I'm very fearful for his future.

wally post
06-09-2007, 02:14 AM
I hope he doesn't have a neck injury on top of the concussion. That would haunt him the rest of his life. Concussion can too - with word forming for instance and train of thought sequences... it's heavy stuff. I with Ryan the best.

06-09-2007, 06:14 AM
More Ryan (and other stuff)


Freel's latest concussion lingers, has him worried
By Hal McCoy

Staff Writer

Saturday, June 09, 2007

CINCINNATI — Ryan Freel is concerned and, yes, a bit frightened about his future. He hasn't been diagnosed with a concussion, but he knows a concussion when he feels one.

He hasn't had one concussion, or three, or five. He believes he has had 10, including his current situation when he ran into fellow outfielder Norris Hopper's elbow during the Cincinnati Reds' game May 28.

"I'm nervous," Freel said before Friday's game, his first chat with the media since the mishap. "I've never gone through this. I want to know what's going on. I don't feel comfortable as to where I stand about getting back.

"I know it is a concussion because I've had a lot of them and I know what a concussion is," he said. "I was knocked out, and every time I've had a concussion I was knocked out."

Freel doesn't remember the collision.

"I saw it (on videotape), and Hopper told me today I hit his elbow," Freel said. "And I saw that he put the ball in my glove, and that was good. We got an out."

Of his concussions, Freel said, "I found out from my dad I had a few I didn't even know about. I was knocked out a couple of times when I was a little kid. I'm aware of six or seven, so with a couple more it has been nine or 10.

"Nothing, though, was like this," he added. "Before I'd miss four or five days without lingering effects. I still have headaches, nausea and dizziness."

Freel has not swung a bat or thrown a ball. For five days he stayed in bed. When he came to the park he lasted 20 minutes before they sent him home. He tried riding a stationary bike, but the headache was too intense.

"There was pressure and throbbing, and they shut me down after that," he said.

If Freel played football, his career probably would be over, and the question was asked if he worried about his career.

"A little bit," he said. "Not much, though. I try not to think about that type of thing right now."

Wet and wild

While the Reds were away last week, a 3-inch pipe in the home clubhouse bathroom burst so hard it blew out a wall. Two inches of water covered 9,024 square feet of floor space, including the main clubhouse.

It was discovered at 5 a.m. Monday, and Declan Mullin, vice president of ballpark operations, stepped quickly into action. Total repairs were finished at 11 a.m. Friday.

"If you had seen it, you would have cried," Mullin said. "Fortunately it was clean city water, but it took out two ceilings and a wall. We had to replace every baseboard."

Mullin called in Widmer's Cleaners, which has a hurricane response team. Two 5,000-pound blowers were employed to dry the place, and 32 people worked five days, taking out all the furniture and drying it.

Fortunately, there is a 3-inch curb in front of player lockers, so they lost no personal effects, "But there were four computers on the floor that had their hard-drives fried," Mullin said. "One thing we did was clean this entire area so that now it is hospital-quality clean."

McBeth survives

For the second time in a short span, relief pitcher Todd Coffey was optioned to Class AAA Louisville, the casualty to make room for Homer Bailey.

The survivor was rookie pitcher Marcus McBeth.

"McBeth pitched well the other night (1-2-3 inning in his major-league debut in St. Louis), has done a good job in games in Triple-A and deserves a chance to pitch here," said manager Jerry Narron.

Another survivor is Rule 5 pick Jared Burton. The Reds can't option him to Louisville unless they offer him back to the Oakland A's for $25,000 (The Reds paid $50,000).

Asked if that hampers the bullpen, Narron said diplomatically, "We will find spots where we can pitch Burton as much as possible, and hopefully, the more he pitches the better he'll pitch."

Quote of the day

When the Reds were in St. Louis, catcher David Ross stayed at the Westin Hotel near the ballpark, voted the best hotel in St. Louis four years in a row. Meanwhile, the Reds stayed at the less-plush and older Hyatt-Union Station. Said Scott Hatteberg to Ross, "Yeah, you stay in the Westin, while we stay in cellblock C."


Always Red
06-09-2007, 08:12 AM
I'd sit him for the rest of the year, period.

Our season is over, so by no means do we "need" him. Why risk anything further at this point?

I agree, the Reds won't "need" him any more this year.

But, if he's feeling back to normal (whatever that might be for Farney) by August, for instance, I'd work him back in, just to make sure he's ready to go in 2008. As long as the docs say it's OK.

06-09-2007, 04:25 PM
Freel will probably want to be out there tomorrow, they should really err on the side of caution with this and go with whatever the Docs say.

06-09-2007, 06:47 PM
From ESPN.....


The Cincinnati Reds said Friday that injured utility man Ryan Freel is "slowly improving" from a concussion sustained in an outfield collision but hasn't been cleared for physical activity, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported.

Freel, who spoke Friday with the media for the first time since his injury, continues to experience lingering effects from the May 28 collision with Reds outfielder Norris Hopper, and admitted to feeling uncertain about his ability to come back, according to the Enquirer.

"For the first five days, I didn't get out of bed," Freel said of the post-concussion symptoms, according to the newspaper. "I had some pretty bad headaches, and nausea and dizziness. ... But [the headaches] has gotten better, so maybe [the injury] is getting better."

According to the report, Freel said he does not remember running or reaching for the ball before the collision -- only looking up and seeing teammates as he lay on the field.

"And I remember wondering, 'What is going on?' ... That's when it occurred to me I'd probably just had another concussion," he said, according to the newspaper.

Freel met with team medical director Dr. Tim Kremchek on Friday and has also met with spine specialist Dr. John Brannan, who prescribed rest and limited activity, according to the report.

"[But] I am a little nervous," Freel said. "I just want to know more about what's going on. ... I don't feel real comfortable as far as where I stand in terms of getting back [into the lineup]."

Freel also told reporters that he's had a history of concussions, and estimated there have been "six or seven" that he knows of, and a few others that he doesn't remember.

"It's probably nine or 10 I've had," he said. "But nothing like this. I'd bounce back in a few days, miss four or five days, but never had the lingering effects like this. I had some dizziness and some headaches, but not like I'm having now. This is totally different."

06-09-2007, 06:54 PM
Wow, I had no idea he was in such bad shape.

Hang tough, Farney.

06-09-2007, 07:00 PM
This team has given me a constant, pounding headache and been a pain in the neck ever since the end of April.

Get well Farney