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Red Leader
06-09-2007, 09:12 AM
This thread is to discuss the players selected by the Cincinnati Reds in the 2007 First Year Player Draft and to report players that have signed contracts with the Reds after being drafted.


http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft...m.php?team=CIN
2007 Draft: Cincinnati Reds

Players signed indicated in Bold



Round Overall Player Position School State
1 15 Devin Mesoraco c Punxsutawney (Pa.) HS PA
As strong as this year's high school class was considered at the outset of the season, it got even better when high school righthanders Jarrod Parker and Nevin Griffith and Mesoraco came out of the gate showing better tools and ability than they had last summer and fall. Griffith and Mesoraco appeared in showcases, but they didn't show impact potential until this spring, and Mesoraco has been the biggest riser of them all. An arm injury led to Tommy John surgery when he was a sophomore, and he was relegated to DH duties as a junior. His arm strength has slowly returned, and this spring he has shown a 70 arm with quick, efficient releases. Defensively, Mesoraco compares favorably to 2001 Angels first-rounder Jeff Mathis, with athleticism serving as the foundation of an agile, quick-twitch player who receives and blocks exceptionally well. He shows above-average bat speed and 50-55 power at the plate. He's a solid-average runner, too, rounding out a legitimate five-tool package that probably won't make it out of the first round.
1s 34 Todd Frazier 3b Rutgers NJ
1s 53 Kyle Lotzkar rhp South Delta SS, Delta, B.C. BC
2 79 Zack Cozart ss Mississippi MS
3 104 Scott Carroll rhp Missouri State MO
3 109 Neftali Soto 3b Colegio Marista HS, Manati, P.R. PR
4 139 Blake Stouffer 3b/of Texas A&M TX
5 169 Drew Bowman lhp Nebraska NE
6 199 Evan Hildenbrandt rhp Mennonite Educational Inst., Abbotsford, B.C. BC
7 229 Brandon Waring 3b Wofford SC
8 259 Andrew O'Neill rhp Penn State PA
9 289 Alexis Oliveras of Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guaynabo, P.R. PR
10 319 Harris Honeycutt rhp South Carolina SC
11 349 Jordan Wideman c Streetsville SS, Mississauga, Ont. ON
12 379 Scott Gaffney ss Penn State PA
13 409 Brandon Menchaca of Delaware DE
14 439 Joseph Krebs lhp Texas TX
15 469 Matthew Kinker rhp Furman SC
16 499 Charles Snowden lhp Brandon (Miss.) HS MS
17 529 Jesse Craig rhp Brigham Young UT
18 559 Taylor Jordan rhp Merritt Island HS FL
19 589 Raymond Jeffords rhp South Carolina SC
20 619 Jacob Kahaulelio ss Oral Roberts OK
21 649 Jeremy Horst lhp Armstrong Atlantic State (Ga.) GA
22 679 Robert Rhoden rhp Vanderbilt TN
23 709 Jason Bour c George Mason VA
24 739 Frank Meade c Rutgers NJ
25 769 Eli Rimes 1b Sonoma State CA
26 799 Curtis Partch rhp Merced College CA
27 829 Jason Roenicke rhp Cuesta College CA
28 859 Jonathan Conaster rhp Tallahassee CC FL
29 889 Steven Otterness lhp Embry-Riddle FL
30 919 Brett Bartles 3b Duke NC
31 949 Jordan Hotchkiss rhp Brevard (N.C.) College NC
32 978 Brandon Douglas ss Northern Iowa IA
33 1007 Brodie Pullen 3b Calhoun (GA) HS GA
34 1036 Jeremy Vineyard rhp Boaz HS AL
35 1065 Thad Weber rhp Nebra NE
36 1094 Leon Landry 3b Baker LA
37 1122 Scott Alexander lhp Cardinal Newman HS, Santa Rosa, Calif. CA
38 1150 Ari Ronick lhp Portland OR
39 1178 James Nelson rhp Niceville (Fla.) HS FL
40 1206 Ross Hopkins c Tyee HS WA
41 1232 Kevin Hickey of Concordia CA
42 1258 Sean Bierman lhp Kinnelon (N.J.) HS NJ
43 1283 Austin Taylor 3b Thomas County Central HS, Thomasville, GA GA
44 1310 Josh Beal rhp Independence CC KS
45 1336 Jordan Brown rhp Meridian (Miss.) CC MS
46 1360 Mike McGuire rhp Delaware DE
47 1383 Andrew Benes 3b Westminster Christian Academy, Doniphan, Mo. MO
48 1404 Michael Henry rhp St. Patrick HS ON
49 1425 Cameron Gray rhp Silverthorn Collegiate HS, Toronto ON
50 1446 Jordan Chambless rhp Texas A&M TX

RedLegsToday
06-09-2007, 10:40 AM
did the Reds select anyone in the late rounds that would be considered early round talent that will be hard to sign?

Benihana
06-09-2007, 11:37 AM
did the Reds select anyone in the late rounds that would be considered early round talent that will be hard to sign?

I believe Scott Alexander, the LHP, was considered a top 200 talent. Hopefully the Reds will shell out for him, LHP is currently our biggest need.

Gallen5862
06-09-2007, 12:35 PM
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2007/drafttracker.jsp?p=0&s=30&sc=pick_number&so=&st=number&ft=TM&fv=cin
Page 1 of 2 [ 53 player(s) found ] › »Scouting reports provided by MLB.com Class Key:
J1 - Junior College, 1st year J2 - Junior College, 2nd year J3 - Junior College, 3rd year
DO - Dropout NS - No School HS - High School SO - College sophomore
JR - College junior SR - College senior 5S - College, 5th year senior Pick Team Player School Pos B/T Ht Wt DOB Class
15 Mesoraco, Devin Punxsutawney Area HS C R/R 6'01" 1988-06-19 HS 400K
Comments: Mesoraco has answered any questions about his arm following Tommy John surgery a year ago and is on the rise among catching prospects. He's a complete catching package, with hitting ability, power, good hands, a plus arm and outstanding leadership ability.
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34 Frazier, Todd Rutgers U New Brunswick SS R/R 6'03" 215 1986-02-12 JR 400K
Comments: Frazier was drafted three years ago, but he honored his commitment to Rutgers, following in his brothers' footsteps. He's had a very productive year at the plate, showing power and run production ability even though Rutgers has hit him out of the leadoff spot. He'll change his place in the order as a pro just like he'll likely change his spot defensively, from shortstop to either third or a corner outfield position. Considering the dearth of college bats in this class, it's hard to imagine he'll last long on draft day.
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53 Lotzkar, Kyle South Delta SS RHP L/R 6'04" 200 1989-10-24 HS 400K
Comments: Fellow Canadian Phillippe Aumont has been getting most of the buzz, but Lotzkar deserves some as well. He's got an intriguing power package with a fastball/slider combination. How well he can harness and command his stuff, along with doing more with a third pitch, will determine whether he's a starter or reliever in the future.
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79 Cozart, Zachary U Mississippi SS R/R 6'01" 185 1985-08-12 JR 400K
Comments: Cozart has perhaps the best set of hands in this year's draft class and shortstops who can catch the ball are often hard to find. His lack of speed may hurt his range as the game speeds up and there is a question as to how much he'll hit at the next level. Some see him as a shortstop who can hit in the two-hole, but he also may just be a utilityman who hits ninth.
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104 Carroll, Scott Missouri St U RHP R/R 6'05" 210 1984-09-24 SR 400K
109 Soto, Neftali Colegio Marista HS SS R/R 6'02" 180 1989-02-28 HS 400K
Comments: Soto has an intriguing package of tools that includes raw power and above-average speed. Currently a shortstop, he doesn't profile as a guy who'll be able to stay there, particularly range-wise. That's OK, because his offensive skill set fits better at third. He should hit enough for the position and could develop into a No. 5 or 6 hitter in a big-league lineup.
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139 Stouffer, Blake Texas A&M U 1B S/R 6'00" 190 1985-10-11 JR 400K
169 Bowman, Andrew U Nebraska Lincoln LHP R/L 6'04" 190 1985-11-08 JR 400K
199 Hildenbrandt, Evan Mennonite Educational Inst RHP L/R 6'02" 190 1989-02-13 HS 400K
229 Waring, Brandon Wofford Col 3B R/R 6'04" 195 1986-01-02 JR 400K
259 O'Neil, Andrew Penn St U RHP R/R 6'03" 200 1985-11-08 SO
289 Oliveras, Alexis Puerto Rico BB Academy HS CF L/R 6'00" 1989-03-29 HS 400K
319 Honeycutt, Harris U South Carolina Columbia RHP R/R 6'01" 205 1984-12-18 SR
349 Wideman, Jordan Streetsville SS C R/R 5'11" 200 1989-03-14 HS 400K
379 Gaffney, Scott Penn St U SS R/R 6'03" 185 1986-03-13 JR
409 Menchaca, Brandon U Delaware OF R/R 6'00" 195 1985-04-15 SR
439 Krebs, Joseph U Texas Austin LHP L/L 6'00" 200 1984-09-14 SR
469 Klinker, Matthew Furman U RHP R/R 6'05" 210 1984-10-08 SR
499 Snowden, Charles Brandon HS LHP L/L 6'01" 150 1988-10-06 HS
529 Craig, Jesse Brigham Young U RHP R/R 6'03" 235 1983-02-18 SR
559 Jordan, Taylor Merritt Island HS RHP R/R 6'03" 190 1989-01-17 HS
589 Jeffords, Raymond U South Carolina Columbia RHP R/R 6'00" 200 1984-11-04 SR
619 Kahaulelio, Jacob Oral Roberts U SS R/R 5'10" 185 1985-06-07 SR
649 Horst, Jeremy Armstrong Atlantic St U LHP L/L 6'04" 225 1985-10-01 SR
679 Rhoden, Robert Vanderbilt U RHP R/R 6'03" 222 1984-12-23 SR 400K
709 Bour, Jason George Mason U C R/R 6'03" 1986-07-02 JR
739 Meade, Francis Rutgers U New Brunswick C R/R 6'01" 215 1985-09-27 JR 400K
769 Rimes, Eli Sonoma St U 1B L/L 6'00" 210 1985-06-07 SR
799 Partch, Curtis Merced Col RHP R/R 6'05" 210 1987-02-13 J2
829 Roenicke, Jason Cuesta Col RHP R/R 6'00" 200 1985-10-25 J3
‹ Page 2 of 2 [ 53 player(s) found ]Scouting reports provided by MLB.com Class Key:
J1 - Junior College, 1st year J2 - Junior College, 2nd year J3 - Junior College, 3rd year
DO - Dropout NS - No School HS - High School SO - College sophomore
JR - College junior SR - College senior 5S - College, 5th year senior Pick Team Player School Pos B/T Ht Wt DOB Class
859 Conatser, Jonathan Tallahassee CC RHP R/R 6'00" 180 1985-12-04 J3
889 Otterness, Steven Embry-Riddle U LHP L/L 6'04" 210 1984-10-30 SR
919 Bartles, Brett Duke U 3B R/R 6'02" 205 1986-08-20 JR
949 Hotchkiss, Jordan Brevard Col RHP R/R 6'04" 210 1986-04-03 JR
978 Douglas, Brandon U Northern Iowa SS R/R 6'00" 1985-08-27 JR
1007 Pullen, Brodie Calhoun HS 3B R/R 6'00" 195 1988-10-26 HS
1036 Vinyard, Jeremy Boaz HS RHP R/R 6'01" 165 1988-08-10 HS
1065 Weber, Thad U Nebraska Lincoln RHP R/R 6'02" 205 1984-09-28 JR
1094 Landry, Leon Baker HS 3B R/R 5'11" 190 1989-09-20 HS
1122 Alexander, Scott Cardinal Newman HS LHP L/L 6'02" 1989-07-10 HS 400K
1150 Ronick, Ari U Portland LHP L/L 6'04" 205 1986-03-25 JR
1178 Nelson, James Niceville HS RHP R/R 6'06" 225 1989-06-05 HS 400K
1206 Hopkins, Ross Tyee HS C R/R 6'00" 220 1988-12-21 HS
1232 Hickey, Kevin Concordia Col RF L/R 6'03" 210 1984-09-04 SR
1258 Bierman, Sean Kinnelon HS LHP L/L 6'00" 195 1988-10-20 HS 400K
1284 Taylor, Austin Thomas County Central HS 3B S/R 6'03" 175 1989-03-30 HS
1310 Beal, Josh Independence CC RHP R/R 6'02" 220 1987-10-21 J1
1336 Brown, Jordan Meridian CC RHP R/R 6'00" 185 1986-07-01 J2
1360 McGuire, Michael U Delaware RHP R/R 6'07" 240 1986-06-29 JR
1383 Benes, Andrew Westminster Christian Academy 3B R/R 6'02" 190 1988-11-04 HS
1404 Henry, Michael St Patricks HS RHP R/R 6'03" 205 1989-09-01 HS
1425 Gray, Cameron Silverthorn Collegiate Inst RHP R/R 5'11" 175 1989-06-11 HS 400K
1446 Chambless, Jordan Texas A&M U RHP R/R 6'01" 205 1985-03-07 JR 400K
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mth123
06-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Is Andrew Benes from the 47th Round son of former Cardinal pitcher Andy Benes? Doniphan, MO is 178 Miles from St. Louis. Anybody know?

traderumor
06-09-2007, 02:46 PM
I was looking at some numbers on our last pick, Jordan Chambless and noticed he had an ERA of about 1.80 and 17 Ks in just a very few innings and was curious what the story was, whether injury or just a late bloomer?

NorrisHopper30
06-09-2007, 03:02 PM
Is Andrew Benes from the 47th Round son of former Cardinal pitcher Andy Benes? Doniphan, MO is 178 Miles from St. Louis. Anybody know?

You are correct sir, Marty mentioned it on last nights broadcast.

mth123
06-09-2007, 03:08 PM
You are correct sir, Marty mentioned it on last nights broadcast.

Thanks. Didn't listen to the radio last night.

Edd Roush
06-09-2007, 03:52 PM
For all of those fine baseball minds on Redszone, I have a few questions.

1) When do players typically start signing?

2) When does Rookie League ball start?

3) How many of these ballplayers should we expect to sign?

Thanks.

jmcclain19
06-09-2007, 04:34 PM
For all of those fine baseball minds on Redszone, I have a few questions.

1) When do players typically start signing?

2) When does Rookie League ball start?

3) How many of these ballplayers should we expect to sign?

Thanks.

1 - some right away, the top picks usually take a few weeks though
2 - Billings opens their season in 12 days - http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp?sid=t513
3 - 30-35 is the typical number.

Edd Roush
06-09-2007, 04:36 PM
1 - some right away, the top picks usually take a few weeks though
2 - Billings opens their season in 12 days - http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp?sid=t513
3 - 30-35 is the typical number.


You're the man :beerme:

BEETTLEBUG
06-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Is Robert Rhoden from Vanderbilt former Dodger and Pirate Rick Rhoden's Son?

11larkin11
06-09-2007, 10:40 PM
When will most of these guys be assigned to a team? After they sign? Any you think will go right to Dayton? Im hoping a guy like Cozart or Frasier take over for Valaika at Dayton, if they stay at SS, and Valaika goes to Sarasota. I'd like to see Mesoraco start out in Dayton too, since Im going to a couple games this summer.

redsmetz
06-10-2007, 07:35 AM
Benes is the son of Andy Benes, according to MLB.com. I checked the Vanderbilt website and their media guide for the baseball team shows Rhoden is not the son of Rick Rhoden.

JaxRed
06-10-2007, 09:27 AM
When will most of these guys be assigned to a team? After they sign? Any you think will go right to Dayton? Im hoping a guy like Cozart or Frasier take over for Valaika at Dayton, if they stay at SS, and Valaika goes to Sarasota. I'd like to see Mesoraco start out in Dayton too, since Im going to a couple games this summer.


If Reds follow their past policy.... none will go to Dayton. They pretty much put the HS guys in GCL and the college guys in Billings.

redsmetz
06-10-2007, 10:49 AM
If Reds follow their past policy.... none will go to Dayton. They pretty much put the HS guys in GCL and the college guys in Billings.

I think you're probably right. Krivsky's MO looks to be "step by step". Let players go to the lowest level and succeed, then move them up. He doesn't seem to want to jump levels, believing that each level has its purpose. I can't say he's been 100% with that, but has anyone jumped to the big club from Chattanooga since he's been here?

That's not to say some won't jump to Dayton by season's end. I think a few players did that last year, didn't they?

Only time will tell, but I think that will ultimately be better for the Reds.

dabvu2498
06-11-2007, 09:19 AM
42 1258 Sean Bierman lhp Kinnelon (N.J.) HS NJ

Vanderbilt signee.

Caveat Emperor
06-11-2007, 03:06 PM
Vanderbilt signee.

I recall fondly the conflict I felt when the Reds drafted Jay Bruce, who was signed and sealed to Tulane if he went to college.

CTA513
06-12-2007, 03:45 PM
Im guessing this is the thread that I should post this in.

From C. Trent Rosecrans blog:


And more from Butcher, these players have signed:


Rd Player Pos. School
5 Andrew Bowman LHP University of Nebraska
12 Scott Gaffney SS Penn State University
15 Matt Klinker RHP Furman University
20 Jacob Kahaulelio SS Oral Roberts University
23 Jason Bour C George Mason University
25 Eli Rimes 1B Sonoma State University
29 Steven Otterness LHP Embry-Riddle University
31 Jordan Hotchkiss RHP Brevard College

Red Leader
06-12-2007, 03:50 PM
Im guessing this is the thread that I should post this in.

From C. Trent Rosecrans blog:

Yep, right place. I've updated the draft thread up top. Thanks, CTA513. I appreciate it.

Gallen5862
06-12-2007, 06:42 PM
Great start to the signing of Players. 8 players signed during the first week.

bearcatfan24
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
Does anybody have any information on our 15th pick matt klinker

Red Leader
06-13-2007, 10:56 AM
Does anybody have any information on our 15th pick matt klinker

This is his bio from the Furman site:

Klinker is one of the players that is already under contract, FYI.


Furman: Tall, strong righthander who heads into the 2007 campaign as Furman's top starting pitcher...has a chance to rank among the SoCon's best hurlers this spring...continued improvement on mound presence could contribute to a fine senior campaign...fastball and slider rank as his top pitches...has an improving changeup...slated as Furman's Friday night starter in league series play. 2006 -- Served as the anchor to Furman's starting rotation, earning starts in 15 of 16 appearances...went 6-4 with a 3.90 ERA...paced the Paladin staff with 87 2/3 innings of work and 65 strikeouts...strong work on the hill played a key role in Furman posting a 32-23 record and 16-11 SoCon mark good for a third place league finish...32 wins matched a program season high...4.45 team ERA ranked third in the SoCon...earned his first win of the season against Miami of Ohio (6.1 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K)...recorded a career high 10 strikeouts over seven innings en route to an 11-0 win over Wofford...longest outing came in a 3-2 win at Appalachian State (7.2 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K)...opponents hit .299 against him...named to the SoCon Academic Honor Roll. 2005 -- Registered action as both a reliever and starter, totaling 22 appearances and seven starts...went 2-2 with a 4.38 ERA...opponents batted .256 against him...helped key Furman's strong stretch run that led to a SoCon Tournament championship, NCAA Tournament appearance, and 30-29 final record...went 2-0 with a 2.07 ERA over his final 13 appearances (39.0 IP, 36 H, 9 ER, 28 K)...four of seven starts came in mid-week contests...was the starting pitcher but did not get the decision in Furman's 3-2 win over 18th-ranked Tennessee (4.0 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K) and 6-2 triumph over 13th-ranked South Carolina (4.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 4 K)...hurled 5 1/3 innings of five-hit ball (2 ER, 3 K) but got no decision in eventual 5-4 SoCon Tournament championship game win over Georgia Southern...started and pitched 4 1/3 innings of four-hit ball (0 ER, 2 K) in 6-3 loss to Michigan in NCAA Tournament action...registered his second win in crucial 5-4 decision at Davidson (1.1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 K). 2004 -- Fashioned a solid first season, making 19 appearances in both relief and starting roles...first 12 appearances came in relief before moving into starting rotation for seven starts...went 3-3 with a 5.80 ERA over 49 2/3 innings (44 strikeouts)...earned his first victory by working 2.0 inning of perfect relief in a 1-0 win over Gardner-Webb...last win came in an 11-2 decision over Appalachian State (6.0 IP, 3 H, 2R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 5 K)...yielded only two home runs...left-handed hitters batted only .188 (9x48) against him.

High School: Played under Bill Dreisbach at Lakota West High School...named a Great Miami Conference all-conference pitcher his senior year after leading his conference in strikeouts...was named to the Cincinnati All-City Team and the Greater Miami Conference all-conference team his senior year...also played with the Walt Sweeney Cardinals for three years under Larry Redwine.

Personal: Full name Matthew David Klinker...son of Vince and Carol Klinker...born October 8, 1984...carries a 3.18 GPA...business administration major.


Were you looking for something specific?

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2007, 03:23 PM
The Reds have also signed 7th round pick third baseman Brandon Wing today.

Red Leader
06-13-2007, 03:33 PM
The Reds have also signed 7th round pick third baseman Brandon Wing today.


Thanks. I think Waring was a good pick. Glad that he has signed.

bearcatfan24
06-13-2007, 04:15 PM
No, but thanks for the information. Just wanted to see his bio because I know his mom.

What do you predict for him in the future

Reds Freak
06-13-2007, 04:56 PM
I saw Klinker a few times in high school and the past few summers and followed his career at Furman a little. He had a pretty decent 4 years at Furman but I'm not too excited about his future as a pro. He had a 2.08 K/BB rate in 285 collegiate innings while giving up 303 H. I wish the kid the best of luck and hope he proves me wrong but I consider him a longshot to make much of an impact in this organization.

OnBaseMachine
06-13-2007, 09:05 PM
Brandon Waring could be a steal IMO. Nice to him in the fold.

CTA513
06-13-2007, 11:48 PM
This was posted in the game updates on C. Trent Rosecrans blog:


Reds announce 14th-round pick Joe Krebs, 24th-round pick Francis Meade and 41st-round pick Kevin Hickey have signed with the club.

Superdude
06-14-2007, 12:11 AM
Waring looks just like BJ Szymanski. I mean that in the positive way.

JaxRed
06-15-2007, 03:08 PM
#11 Wideman signed

http://www.mississauga.com/article/3936

JaxRed
06-15-2007, 03:09 PM
Non-Drafted Free Agent signing

http://www.murfreesboropost.com/news.php?viewStory=4821

JaxRed
06-15-2007, 03:15 PM
#10 Pick Honeycut signed

http://www.thestate.com/188/story/92151.html

JaxRed
06-15-2007, 03:20 PM
#22 Rhoden signed

http://www.thestate.com/188/story/92151.html

Doc. Scott
06-15-2007, 03:57 PM
Another NDFA signing mentioned- LHR Matt Ogrodnik, out of Penn State.

http://www.centredaily.com/sports/story/125039.html

Benihana
06-15-2007, 04:07 PM
can we update the original post to include the new signings?

Az. Reds Fan
06-15-2007, 06:26 PM
The Mustangs site has updated their roster with the new signees

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=513&stn=true&sid=t513

New Fever
06-15-2007, 06:53 PM
Third round pick Neftali Soto, 9th round pick Alexis Oliveras, 16th round pick Shea Snowden, 21st round pick Jeremy Horst, 34th round pick Jeremy Vineyard have all signed according to the Baseball America subscriber database.

OnBaseMachine
06-15-2007, 07:14 PM
Yup, the Reds website shows that Soto signed on June 8th. It also shows 26th rounder Curtis Partch, rhp, as signing one week ago today and 40th round pick Ross C. Hopkins (hs catcher) as signing on June the 8th also. It's nice to see that Vineyard and Snowden signed. I figured they wouldn't sign with them being HS pitchers that were drafted in later rounds.

Red Leader
06-16-2007, 12:18 AM
can we update the original post to include the new signings?

The first post is now updated with signings. I've had a family situation come up and have been unable to post the last couple days. Probably keep me from checking in on the weekend as well. I might be back to the site on Monday to update anything new. In the meantime, please be patient. I'll get to it as soon as I can. My apologies for the delays.

Kc61
06-16-2007, 10:03 AM
Menchaca, the 13th pick, an outfielder, is listed on the Billings roster, must have signed up.

Benihana
06-16-2007, 12:35 PM
The first post is now updated with signings. I've had a family situation come up and have been unable to post the last couple days. Probably keep me from checking in on the weekend as well. I might be back to the site on Monday to update anything new. In the meantime, please be patient. I'll get to it as soon as I can. My apologies for the delays.

Thanks a lot Red Leader.

I like Snowden. I would really like to see Taylor Jordan and Scott Alexander sign. Other than that, as long as they sign the guys in rounds 1-5, I'm fine with whatever.

Mario-Rijo
06-18-2007, 01:51 AM
Just something I thought I would add here on Lotzkar as far as a breakdown on him goes. It should give us some insight into what to look for down the road in terms of development and the hurdles he may have to clear. It was posted by Keith Law on his blog prior to the draft Friday May 4th.


One of Aumont's teammates, Kyle Lotzkar, was less impressive in his second outing and may have cost himself a little money. Lotzkar topped out at 91 and pitched at 87-89 with poor control and no second pitch that graded out as average or better. The bigger concern is his delivery; he has a wrist wrap, and his arm action is rough, with his elbow coming up above his shoulder as he starts his delivery. It's going to be hard for him to have command with that arm action, and there's probably an increased risk of an arm injury as well. Lotzkar has been projected to go in the sandwich round or high second, but I'd put him more in the fourth-fifth round range off that one look.

spartcock77
06-18-2007, 11:01 PM
Brandon Waring could be a steal IMO. Nice to him in the fold.

I go to school with Waring and after watching him play all year, he could very well be a steal for the reds. The improvement from his sophmore to his junior year was great and he could improve his play even more. Even though he was from a small school he produced against solid division 1 teams such as tennessee and south carolina. I really think he has great potential and could become a strong player for the reds.

reds44
06-19-2007, 12:41 AM
More signings: Four more 2007 Draft picks were signed on Monday, including pitchers Harris Honeycutt (10th round), Raymond Jeffords (19th round) and Robert Rhoden (22nd round) and outfielder Brandon Menchaca (13th round).

reds.com

dabvu2498
06-19-2007, 10:47 AM
It's funny to hear Rhoden called Robert... he went by Tyler at VU.

http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/rhoden_tyler00.html

Gallen5862
06-19-2007, 11:37 AM
Looks like a good start with the signings. 24 have signed so far. Hopefully Devin Mesoraco,Todd Frazier, and Zack Cozart sign soon.

Gallen5862
06-19-2007, 01:15 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59477
NOTES: Jake Kahaulelio, who injured a knee during a rundown drill Sunday afternoon, suffered a torn ACL and meniscus. The Cincinnati Reds' 20th-round draft pick from Oral Roberts is expected to undergo surgery and then go to the Cincinnati Reds' minor league facility in Sarasota, Fla., for rehabilitation.

Gallen5862
06-19-2007, 01:17 PM
Best of luck to Jake Kahaulelio as he rehabilitates his ACL and Meniscus. Get well soon.

Grande Donkey
06-19-2007, 01:24 PM
Best of luck to Jake Kahaulelio as he rehabilitates his ACL and Meniscus. Get well soon.
that sucks. that happened to me playing football last year. it is not a fun thing to go threw.

Az. Reds Fan
06-19-2007, 01:24 PM
41st rdr Kevin Hickey has left Billings to return home to NY, the article doesn't say if it's temporary or permanent....


Free agent pitcher no stranger to complete games
By MIKE SCHERTING
Of The Gazette Staff

No matter that the Little League chant - "Pitcher's got a rubber arm!" - is supposed to be a dig on the opposing guy on the mound, Dan Zeffiro may just have that rubber arm. In this case, that's a good thing.

Zeffiro, one of the Billings Mustangs' newest hopefuls, is a free agent right-hander from NCAA Division III Kean University (N.J.). He compiled a 9-1 record this season with a 1.66 ERA, helping his team to the D-III World Series championship in the school's first-ever trip.

But those aren't the numbers that make your eyes pop. These are: In the opening game of the World Series, Zeffiro threw a 12-inning complete game on 149 pitches, leading Kean over Cortland State in a game where he outdueled the d3baseball.com pitcher of the year, Dan Dougher, who also threw a complete game.

In all, Zeffiro threw seven complete games this season, logging 92 innings. "When we came (to Kean) our coach laid out a workout plan and I stuck to it, every single year," Zeffiro said. "I don't take my off-season or my exercises lightly, I do them relatively hard, so I'm prepared to do that stuff. You'll find me always in the weight room and it paid off. Maybe I have a rubber arm ... some people say it's mechanics, some people say it's long muscles ... but, it works. My arm works."

He finished that sentence with a laugh, but you can bet he's taking his chance with the Mustangs seriously. Despite the numbers he put up, Zeffiro knows it's a long road for an un-drafted free agent to get to the big leagues. But he also thinks he's up for the task.

"When you come to an organization like this, you're just trying to do the best you can," he said. "That's all you can do. I'm looking forward to it. I'm glad I got a chance. Now it's time to just go out there and play."

Zeffiro first got looks as a sophomore when he led DIII with a 0.90 ERA. Two years later scout Lee Seras signed the lanky pitcher to a contract with the Cincinnati Reds, just days after Kean teammate Joe Augustine signed with the Kansas City Royals.

"I'm playing Wiffle ball in my back yard (on Wednesday) and I get a phone call and the next thing I know I'm on a plane ride out here to Montana," said Zeffiro, who had a career record of 28-8 and career ERA of 2.43 at Kean. "What a trip, you know?"

Day takes a toll

In a span of about five minutes at Sunday's workout, two Mustangs sustained injuries, with one of them being potentially troublesome.

Infielder Jake Kahaulelio, a 20th-round selection from Oral Roberts, went down with a knee injury as the team practiced rundowns at Cobb Field.

Kahaulelio tried to stop as he was chasing a base runner to third base, but he slid and his knee buckled. Kahaulelio will be examined today.

"It's one of those injuries where you really can't get a good evaluation on it right away because there's so much swelling in there," Mustangs manager Joe Kruzel said.

Moments after Kahaulelio was helped off the field, outfielder Brandon Menchaca, a 13th-round pick from Delaware, was hit in the mouth with a throw during another rundown drill.

"I think the preliminary thought on that is he's got a busted up fat lip and they'll put a stitch or two in it," Kruzel said. "I think he'll be fine."

The injuries depleted an already thin Mustangs roster, which suffered the loss of 41st-round pick Kevin Hickey when the outfielder left the team to return home to New York. But Grant Griesser, the Reds' assistant director of player development, said three additional players were to arrive in Billings today: Free-agent pitcher Anthony Romero (Cal Poly), free agent second baseman Wayne Kendrick (Middle Tennessee State) and shortstop Justin Tordi. Tordi played catcher for the Mustangs last season, and he's been playing that position and shortstop for Class A Dayton this year. Griesser said Tordi's assignment to Billings is just for the short term.

Despite the tough day, Kruzel said he likes where the Mustangs are headed with Tuesday's season opener in Great Falls just around the corner.

"The best part I like so far in the four or five days that we've been here, is that every day they come out, they've worked hard, they've gotten better, so as long as we can keep that going for the entire season, I think people in Billings will be proud of the product we put on the field," Kruzel said.

NOTES: The team has its final workout today before heading to Great Falls on Tuesday. ... Pitcher Harris Honeycutt, a 10th-round pick out of South Carolina, arrived in Billings Sunday afternoon. ... The Chicago White Sox signed first-round pick Aaron Poreda on Saturday. The 6-foot-6 left-hander received a reported $1.2 million signing bonus and was assigned to Great Falls.

Az. Reds Fan
06-19-2007, 03:09 PM
Scott Alexander still open to signing w/Reds...if the price is right.

Newman's Alexander draws lots of attention
If not signed, pitcher will attend Pepperdine on a four-year scholarship
By RICH RUPPRECHT
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT



Cardinal Newman senior lefthander, Scott Alexander, was drafted in the 37th round of Major League Baseball's first year player draft on Friday, the 1,122nd player chosen, but the pick doesn't really indicate how coveted a player he was.


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Alexander, rated the 127th best prospect in the country by Baseball America, said he was contacted by nearly 20 major league teams before the draft, most trying to get an idea of how much money Alexander wanted to sign.

Because Alexander has a four-year baseball scholarship at Pepperdine locked up and said he'd be happy to play college ball, "signability" became the biggest issue with Alexander.

If a major league team felt it couldn't meet Alexander's price, that team wouldn't risk a high round draft pick on him. In the case of the Cincinnati Reds, who ultimately selected Alexander, they own negotiating rights with him until August 15th, the start of the college school year.

Alexander was considered a third-to-fifth round draft pick. Third round picks usually sign for between $300,000 and $500,000.

Asked if he would mind attending Pepperdine and then not being able to get drafted again until after his junior year, Alexander said, "No, not at all."

Alexander, whose fastball has been clocked as high as 93 mph, went 8-1 for Newman with a 1.25 ERA and 114 strikeouts in 67 innings.

Alexander plans on playing summer ball for the Sonoma County Rebels.

Alexander's former batterymate at Cardinal Newman, Cloverdale's Richie Rowland was also drafted, in the 40th round by the Rockies.

Rowland transferred to Cloverdale from Newman following his sophomore season.

He was the Press Democrat's small school basketball Player of the year, and Rockies scout Gary Wilson saw in the accompanying article that Rowland's dad had played in the major leagues.

Wilson then invited Rowland to a predraft workout in Vacaville and said the Rockies would probably draft him.

Rowland, a switch-hitting catcher, batted .425 at Cloverdale with six home runs, 25 runs scored and 36 RBIs.

Rowland said if he doesn't sign, he'll probably play JC ball. He also plans on playing summer ball in Santa Rosa.

Eric_Davis
06-20-2007, 06:21 AM
Can't say how much I appreciate everyone's efforts to put this together and to RedLeader for taking charge of it.

Benihana
06-20-2007, 04:27 PM
Its official- D-Mes has signed.

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/

Gallen5862
06-20-2007, 04:28 PM
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/
Top pick signed; Bruce promoted

The Reds signed No. 1 draft pick Devin Mesaraco. Mesoraco, a catcher from Punxsutawney, Pa., was the 15th pick overall in the draft.

He will report to Sarasota tomorrow. He's expected to play with Gulf Coast League Reds.

"We had a lot of predraft discussions," scouting director Chris Buckley. "But he didn't graduate high school until Friday. So he wasn't eligible to sign until then."

Speaking of top picks, Jay Bruce is getting promoted to Double-A Chattanooga. Bruce was hitting .325 with 11 home runs, 49 RBI and 27 doubles for Single-A Sarasota. Right-hander Johnny Cueto is also going up to Chattanooga.

Dayton right-hander Sean Watson, the starter in the Midwest League All-Star game, is being moved from Dayton to Sarasota. Watson, the No. 2 pick in last year's draft, was 5-2 with 1.88 ERA and 85 strikeouts in 71 2/3 innings for the Dragons.

Mesoraco's Punxsutawney High team ended up winning the Pennsylvania state title.

BRM
06-20-2007, 04:34 PM
Good to see Cueto, Bruce, and Watson getting promotions.

Jaycint
06-20-2007, 05:59 PM
Great news to see D-Mes signed and ready to go. I have always held my breath in the past about the Reds signing their higher picks.

Cyclone792
06-20-2007, 06:03 PM
Great news to see that Mesoraco has signed already and should be ready to go for the GCL Reds this season.

pedro
06-20-2007, 06:16 PM
Great news to see that Mesoraco has signed already and should be ready to go for the GCL Reds this season.

very good to see.

reds44
06-21-2007, 12:12 AM
D-Mes is a good nickname. Much easier then typing Mesoraco. Glad to see he signed.

11larkin11
06-21-2007, 12:27 AM
Mezzo. Thats what I shall call him.

dougdirt
06-21-2007, 12:28 AM
I plan on calling him Devin.

You guys are a bunch of weirdos! ;)

11larkin11
06-21-2007, 12:42 AM
Can we maybe start a thread showing all the moves? I'm pretty confused.

NC Reds
06-21-2007, 01:28 AM
He's a catcher. I will call him Messy.

Az. Reds Fan
06-21-2007, 02:16 PM
30th rd 3B Brett Bartles from Duke is now showing up on the GCL Reds roster

Red Leader
06-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Can we maybe start a thread showing all the moves? I'm pretty confused.

Check out the first post in this thread, 11larkin11. Every player that shows in bold has been signed.

11larkin11
06-21-2007, 02:47 PM
Oops, I posted that in the wrong thread. I meant a thread about the call ups and send downs like Bruce and Cueto. Quick question, what Rosters do you guys look at? At the ones on milb.com? If so, why is Mesoraco still not on the GCL Reds roster?

Doc. Scott
06-21-2007, 03:45 PM
Oops, I posted that in the wrong thread. I meant a thread about the call ups and send downs like Bruce and Cueto. Quick question, what Rosters do you guys look at? At the ones on milb.com? If so, why is Mesoraco still not on the GCL Reds roster?

They won't put him on the actual roster until he reports. That might be a couple more days or even weeks away.

corkedbat
06-21-2007, 10:46 PM
Mezzo. Thats what I shall call him.


Mezzo? Sounds like one of the Sopranos. :D

redsmetz
06-22-2007, 09:06 AM
They won't put him on the actual roster until he reports. That might be a couple more days or even weeks away.

According to the Punxsutawney newspaper he was enroute to Sarasota to sign his contract and they predicted he'd see his first game competition early next week.

Az. Reds Fan
06-22-2007, 01:10 PM
Although this article is from June 9th, it says 18th rounder RHP Taylor Jordan is expected to sign...

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Taylor Jordan was used to the extra attention, including scouts showing up at every game he pitched.

What the recent Merritt Island grad and his family weren't used to was the unpredictable ways of the Major League Baseball Draft.

But that all came to a head on Friday's Day 2 of the draft when Jordan was chosen in the 18th round -- 559th overall -- by the Cincinnati Reds.

"I'm really excited about it," Jordan said. "This is exactly what I was hoping for."

Other local players drafted on Friday included: University of Florida rising senior and former Sebastian River star Bryan Augenstein (Arizona, 7th round, 223rd overall), Florida Tech grad Steve Condotta (Toronto, 12th round, 385th overall) and Penn State rising senior Gary Amato, a Cocoa Beach grad (Pittsburgh, 48th round, 1,394th overall).

Jordan initially attracted interest from the Astros and Reds in the fifth round, according to Jordan's father, Matt Hofmann. When the fifth round came and went, Jordan was told to be ready in the sixth round. Then, he was informed the pick would come sometime after the 10th round.

Finally, Jordan spotted his name on the Draft Tracker at mlb.com and the call from the Reds came shortly after.

"I'm very happy for Taylor; I'm very excited he's finally getting this opportunity," Hofmann said. "He has a lot of natural ability that these scouts have all been recognizing. For him, it's pretty much a culmination of a dream he's had since six years old."

The 6-foot-3 senior right-hander was 12-1 with a 0.94 ERA for the Mustangs this past season. He struck out 94 in 741/3 innings.

Cincinnati scout Greg Zunino will visit Jordan today to discuss his immediate plans. It is expected he will report to the Reds' minor-league facility in Sarasota.
For Condotta, it was a day of surprises. First, his girlfriend surprised him with a visit to his hometown of Mississauga, Canada. Then he was surprised by an earlier-than-expected call from Blue Jays scout Carlos Rodriguez welcoming him to the team.

"It was a very exciting day," Condotta said. "It's all happening pretty fast."

Condotta will be reunited with former Florida Tech teammate Jon Baksh, who was drafted by the Blue Jays in 2006. He also joins the team he grew up rooting for -- Mississauga is about 20 minutes from Toronto.

"It was probably the best situation for me to go into," Condotta said. "I definitely couldn't ask for anything more."

The 6-0, 180-pound shortstop batted .431 and was 42-of-45 in stolen bases for the Panthers this past season. He also had a .937 fielding percentage in 2007, which led the Sunshine State Conference.

He'll report to Dunedin -- the Blue Jays' minor-league facility -- on Monday.

After fielding calls from 15 of baseball's 30 teams before noon, Augenstein wasn't alone in needing a break.

"My cell phone was dead by the time I had been drafted," he said.

The 6-5, 225-pound righty had hoped to go in rounds three through six. Though he said he's "ready to play pro ball," Augenstein hasn't ruled out the possibility of returning to the Gators for his senior season.

"I had my hopes set pretty high," he said. "I expected more, but I can't live by wondering what would have happened -- and I am happy with it right now."

Augenstein was 8-5 with a 4.98 ERA for Florida in 2007. He led the team in strikeouts (105) and innings pitched (112). As a sophomore, he was 9-6 with a 3.07 ERA

fearofpopvol1
06-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Anyone know what the holdup is with signing Todd Frazier? He looks like a pretty exciting player.

fearofpopvol1
06-23-2007, 04:45 PM
Scott Alexander still open to signing w/Reds...if the price is right.

Newman's Alexander draws lots of attention
If not signed, pitcher will attend Pepperdine on a four-year scholarship
By RICH RUPPRECHT
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT



Cardinal Newman senior lefthander, Scott Alexander, was drafted in the 37th round of Major League Baseball's first year player draft on Friday, the 1,122nd player chosen, but the pick doesn't really indicate how coveted a player he was.


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Alexander, rated the 127th best prospect in the country by Baseball America, said he was contacted by nearly 20 major league teams before the draft, most trying to get an idea of how much money Alexander wanted to sign.

Because Alexander has a four-year baseball scholarship at Pepperdine locked up and said he'd be happy to play college ball, "signability" became the biggest issue with Alexander.

If a major league team felt it couldn't meet Alexander's price, that team wouldn't risk a high round draft pick on him. In the case of the Cincinnati Reds, who ultimately selected Alexander, they own negotiating rights with him until August 15th, the start of the college school year.

Alexander was considered a third-to-fifth round draft pick. Third round picks usually sign for between $300,000 and $500,000.

Asked if he would mind attending Pepperdine and then not being able to get drafted again until after his junior year, Alexander said, "No, not at all."

Alexander, whose fastball has been clocked as high as 93 mph, went 8-1 for Newman with a 1.25 ERA and 114 strikeouts in 67 innings.

Alexander plans on playing summer ball for the Sonoma County Rebels.

Alexander's former batterymate at Cardinal Newman, Cloverdale's Richie Rowland was also drafted, in the 40th round by the Rockies.

Rowland transferred to Cloverdale from Newman following his sophomore season.

He was the Press Democrat's small school basketball Player of the year, and Rockies scout Gary Wilson saw in the accompanying article that Rowland's dad had played in the major leagues.

Wilson then invited Rowland to a predraft workout in Vacaville and said the Rockies would probably draft him.

Rowland, a switch-hitting catcher, batted .425 at Cloverdale with six home runs, 25 runs scored and 36 RBIs.

Rowland said if he doesn't sign, he'll probably play JC ball. He also plans on playing summer ball in Santa Rosa.

I wonder what happens with this. He at least looks promising.

OnBaseMachine
06-24-2007, 01:06 PM
Brodie Pullen, an 18-year old 3B drafted in the 33rd round out of a Georgia HS, is now showing up on the GCL Reds roster. Pullen is a RH hitter and is listed at 6'0" and 195 pounds. I was surprised to see him signed, being a HS player drafted that low.

OnBaseMachine
06-24-2007, 01:13 PM
Pullen signs with Reds

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Brodie Pullen, who played third base and was an important part of the Calhoun Yellow Jacket’s starting rotation throughout his career, signed with the Cincinnati Reds Saturday night.

“They called me Saturday morning and made me an offer,” Pullen said. “I had some time to think it over, and I called them back Saturday night and said yes.”

He will report to the Reds’ rookie league affiliate in Sarasota, Fla., in the Gulf Coast League, later this week.

“I’m real excited,” Pullen said in a phone interview Monday. “This is something I have always dreamed about.” Pullen said he could not disclose the terms of the Reds’ offer.

Pullen leaves Calhoun as the single-season record holder for both home runs and RBIs. The 5-foot-11 pitcher had 26 homers and 78 RBIs through the quarterfinals of this season’s play-offs.

He batted .448 in the regular season and finished with a 13-2 record on the mound and over 100 strikeouts.

Pullen joins fellow Yellow Jackets Josh Smoker, who was chosen by the Washington Nationals and Charlie Culberson, who was picked by the San Farnacisco Giants, as selections in the 2007 MLB First-Year Players Draft.

“I glad that me, Charlie and Josh have gotten this opportunity after finishing our careers at Calhoun,” Pullen said.

http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=722&NewsID=815086&CategoryID=3389&on=1

And then this from another article:

Pullen and agent Jeff Cordova concluded lengthy talks with the Reds on Sunday evening, and the Calhoun slugger came away with the deal he was seeking.

"One of the major factors is the amount of money they gave him was comparable with what they gave their ninth-round pick this year (Harris Honeycutt), a polished college junior pitcher from South Carolina," Cordova said.

dougdirt
06-24-2007, 02:30 PM
I like that the Reds are offering guys higher than slot money to get them to sign. That is always good when you can get good talent in lower rounds.

Az. Reds Fan
06-24-2007, 03:17 PM
As long as they get their top 10 guys signed, anyone beyond who they've got signed now is icing on the cake.

corkedbat
06-24-2007, 06:21 PM
I like that the Reds are offering guys higher than slot money to get them to sign. That is always good when you can get good talent in lower rounds.

I'd love to see them work a similar deal for Alexander

HokieRed
06-25-2007, 01:34 AM
How are we doing on signing these guys relative to other clubs? At the moment we've got 7 of our first 13 still unsigned. Is there any cause for concern at this point?

OesterPoster
06-25-2007, 01:38 PM
I think this is a fairly new article about 3rd round pick, Scott Carroll. Nothing new really.

http://kcmetrosports.com/articles/article.asp?aid=6290&full=-1


Eat This - Scott Carroll
Liberty star waits to sign pro contract Dave Stewart

Welcome to KCMetroSports.com and Eat This.

Scott Carroll didn't realize how important baseball was till it was taken away from him.

The two sport star from Liberty High School began at Purdue as a quarterback-only with the promise he could branch out if his grades were good.

The baseball carrot that made Purdue seem appealing was never within reach and neither was playing time at quarterback.

That's why Carroll ended up at Missouri State in Springfield, starring in football, yet knowing baseball would eventually re-define his future.

Waiting is nothing new, which is why he's un-signed and un-phased, two weeks after the 2007 amateur draft.

Carroll was taken by the Cincinnati Reds in the 3rd round, a year after being picked in the 16th by the Angels.

Scott was used to seeing scouts at all of his games.

But he can't recall a conversation with anyone from the Reds.

After the draft, the team did try to entice him to sign in time to start the season opener for the Billings, Montana (Class A) Mustangs on Tuesday.

Carroll admitted he doesn't know much about Billings baseball, except for the fact that's where George Brett jumped off a bus in 1971 to begin his pro journey.

The Mustangs still play at Cobb Field, the team's home since 1948, although a new stadium will be in place for 2008.

Carroll is no history major.

He's in communications and marketing, two semesters short of graduation.

He knows the value in a 6'5 pitcher (who grew 1/2 an inch last year) who's fastball can hit 95.

Carroll also added 15 pounds of muscle over the past year to reach 225.

Approaching his 23rd birthday, Scott's arm feels remarkably fresh with only six months wear 'n tear in college baseball.

Last year, facing aluminum bats, his earned run average was remarkably under 3.

He tied for the team lead in innings pitched at 89.

81 strikeouts to go with 25 walks.

Beyond a better working knowledge of a weekly routine that includes weights and long toss, Carroll added a slider that's made his fastball even more effective.

It adds up to a health paycheck.

Eventually, which is fine.

After all, waiting is what Scott Carroll does best.

Respond at Dave.Stewart@twcable.com and Eat This.

Red Leader
06-25-2007, 02:13 PM
As long as they get their top 10 guys signed, anyone beyond who they've got signed now is icing on the cake.

Not neccessarily the case. Yeah, it'd be great if the Reds signed their top 10 guys but there are a lot of guys they drafted in the later rounds that could have been taken in the top 10 rounds (and probably should have been). Alexander is a prime example. If he signs he's like getting another Top 10 draft pick signed.

Benihana
06-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Agreed. I'd rather sign Jordan and Alexander than Olivares and/or Honeycutt. Hopefully we can have all four!

HokieRed
06-25-2007, 03:43 PM
I want to sign Hildenbrandt!

Az. Reds Fan
06-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Not neccessarily the case. Yeah, it'd be great if the Reds signed their top 10 guys but there are a lot of guys they drafted in the later rounds that could have been taken in the top 10 rounds (and probably should have been). Alexander is a prime example. If he signs he's like getting another Top 10 draft pick signed.


I would love it if the Reds could sign all of their lower round gambles, but let's be honest, it aint gonna happen. These guys fell to the lower rounds for a reason (signability) and to get them to sign will take a firm commitment financially which the Reds haven't shown in the past.

TOBTTReds
06-29-2007, 02:34 AM
Some inside info. Frazier will get signed at some point, there was really no worry that he wouldn't from the person I was talking to close to the situation.

From another guy, Andrew O'Neill is likely not to sign. He feels he could get more money next year, atleast that is what scouts have told him (over $1 mil).

Also, appearantly Cozart has signed, but I haven't seen that anywhere but from today's minor league report on here.

OesterPoster
06-29-2007, 09:42 AM
IIRC, today is the day Kyle Lotzkar graduates from high school, so hopefully we get news of his signing over the weekend.

reds44
06-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Some inside info. Frazier will get signed at some point, there was really no worry that he wouldn't from the person I was talking to close to the situation.

From another guy, Andrew O'Neill is likely not to sign. He feels he could get more money next year, atleast that is what scouts have told him (over $1 mil).

Also, appearantly Cozart has signed, but I haven't seen that anywhere but from today's minor league report on here.
Do you know what the hold up is with Fraizer?

TOBTTReds
06-29-2007, 06:21 PM
Do you know what the hold up is with Fraizer?

No I do not. When said I was worried about Frazier signing, he just said, "Oh no, it'll get done soon."

Kc61
06-29-2007, 06:31 PM
Why is Cozart starting at Dayton? Last year's college guys all started at Billings, including the top three picks. Suddenly a new philosophy? Is Cozart so much more advanced? Is this random?

Mario-Rijo
06-29-2007, 09:21 PM
Why is Cozart starting at Dayton? Last year's college guys all started at Billings, including the top three picks. Suddenly a new philosophy? Is Cozart so much more advanced? Is this random?

Angel Cabrera is playing SS in Billings, and he is doing well. Maybe they feel Cozart is more prepared for Dayton than Cabrera and want to make sure they play everyday. Valaika may be moving up, so it leaves a void in Dayton. You could go with Tordi in Dayton and he should be back there soon but maybe he has the lowest ceiling of the 3, I'm not sure there but it seems plausible.

Reds Org Depth at SS:
Competent + Not competent - Middle of the pack =
Reds - Gonzo +, Castro -
Bats - Lopez +, Machado -
Lookouts - Janish +
Sarasota - Eric Eymann =, Raul Tablado - (See ya Raul, 25yr old hitting .133)
Dayton - Valaika +, Cozart +
Billings - Cabrera +, Tordi = (C/SS)
GCL - Soto +, Moreta -, Gauldron 2B +?

You move up Valaika to Sarasota and you have a competent SS at every level. Then move Tordi back up to Dayton for depth as there is no backup. Although the Dragons site lists Cozart as an IF, so take that FWIW.

TOBTTReds
06-30-2007, 12:34 AM
Why is Cozart starting at Dayton? Last year's college guys all started at Billings, including the top three picks. Suddenly a new philosophy? Is Cozart so much more advanced? Is this random?

Cozart isn't a very good hitter, so I don't see how they are doing this. Batted .311 this year at Ole Miss.

redsmetz
07-01-2007, 12:00 AM
Cozart isn't a very good hitter, so I don't see how they are doing this. Batted .311 this year at Ole Miss.

It's not really a matter "how" because they "have" - the really question is "why?". Maybe there's a glut at Billings at the moment. Maybe Dayton's roster is a little emptier?

Benihana
07-02-2007, 12:26 PM
Frazier, Lotzkar, Carroll, Stouffer.

In all seriousness, let's get these guys signed already. If we know it's gonna happen, and they know it's gonna happen, why inhibit their progress for the year?

The pitchers maybe I can understand if they've already thrown a lot of innings this year, but there's no reason why Frazier and Stouffer aren't playing in Dayton right now. I realize Cozart has taken over at SS there, but promote Valaika and Turner to Sarasota, leave Cozart at SS, and decide which corner spots you want Francisco and Stouffer at so you can place Frazier accordingly. Let's go already!

I also wonder what the word is on Hildenbrandt, Taylor Jordan, and Scott Alexander.

HokieRed
07-02-2007, 05:53 PM
If they don't sign Frazier, Lotzkar, Carroll, Stouffer, and Hildenbrandt, it will be a failed draft, IMHO, and another reason to start looking for a new GM.

Red Leader
07-02-2007, 06:11 PM
We do have over a full month to sign these players. I know we'd all like to have our filet mignon cooked medium and done right as we walk in the door at night, but sometimes, you just have to be patient. Let's wait until the August 15th deadline before we go declaring the 2007 draft a total disaster.

OnBaseMachine
07-04-2007, 01:47 PM
28th round pick Jonathan Conatser and 44th rounder Josh Beal are now showing up on the GCL Reds roster.

OesterPoster
07-06-2007, 09:38 AM
Lotzkar signed? I've been checking his local media sources, and today is the first time I've seen the word "signed" behind his name on this site:

http://www.langleyblaze.com/web1/index.php


KYLE LOTZKAR DRAFTED IN THE 1st ROUND (supplemental) Signed
TRAVIS NEVAKSHONOFF DRAFTED IN THE 29th ROUND Signed
RYAN JENSEN DRAFTED IN THE 33rd ROUND Signed

DBFROMNVA
07-06-2007, 10:17 AM
3rd round pick Scott Carroll signed.

Carroll signs contract with Reds

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MIssouri State junior right-hander Scott Carroll, a third-round pick of the Cincinnati Reds last month, has signed a professional contract and will report to the Rookie League affiliate in Billings, Mont.

Carroll, the 104th pick overall in the amateur draft, had a 2.93 earned run average with 81 strikeouts in 89 innings for the Bears this spring.

Benihana
07-06-2007, 01:58 PM
so has Lotzkar signed or not?

dougdirt
07-06-2007, 02:00 PM
It looks that way according to the one link, but there is not any confirmation that I have seen anywhere else.

OesterPoster
07-07-2007, 09:22 AM
Lotzkar has definitely signed now.


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Kyle Lotzkar of Tsawwassen, B.C., selected as a sandwich pick in the June draft, has signed with the Cincinnati Reds. The 6-foot-4, 205-pound righty was given a $594,000 US bonus to pass on Gonzaga University. After pitching for the Langley Blaze and the Canadian Youth Team, he was signed by Bill Byckowski of Georgetown. The former Blue Jays scouting director handed out the sixth highest ever bonus to a Canadian. The top five: Adam Loewen of Surrey, B.C. $3.2 Million; Jeff Francis, North Delta, B.C., $1.85 M, Cambridge's Scott Thorman $1.125 M, Kevin Nicholson, Surrey, B.C., $830,000 and Etobicoke's Joey Votto $600,000. Lotzkar went 53rd in North America. Phillippe Aumont, of Gatineau, Que., remains unsigned.

Kc61
07-07-2007, 11:44 AM
According to Billings paper, Todd Frazier has signed and is joining Billings team.

corkedbat
07-07-2007, 11:59 AM
According to Billings paper, Todd Frazier has signed and is joining Billings team.

Great news! I've thought that Frazier seemed like a solid pick. He, Soto, Waring and Morseco could make a nice infusion of position players into the system. Is the Stouffer kid in the fold yet?

OnBaseMachine
07-07-2007, 12:11 PM
I was hoping they would place Todd Frazier with Dayton. Oh well, hopefully he'll come in and destroy Pioneer League pitching and earn a promotion to Dayton sometime later in the year. Now that Frazier, Lotzkar, and Carroll have signed, Stouffer and Hildenbrandt should be the next priorities to get signed, along with one of Taylor Jordan or Scott Alexander.

TOBTTReds
07-07-2007, 01:12 PM
I told you guys there was nothing to worry about with Frazier! :D

icehole3
07-07-2007, 01:23 PM
This makes the first six being signed so IMO this is a successful draft.

:beerme:

corkedbat
07-07-2007, 01:42 PM
This makes the first six being signed so IMO this is a successful draft.

:beerme:

Have #4 Stouffer & #6 Hildenbrandt signed? That would make it a pretty impressive haul.

Benihana
07-07-2007, 02:05 PM
can we update the first page? thanks! :thumbup:

Boss-Hog
07-08-2007, 04:04 AM
can we update the first page? thanks! :thumbup:
Done...let me know if there's anyone I missed.

icehole3
07-08-2007, 10:33 AM
Have #4 Stouffer & #6 Hildenbrandt signed? That would make it a pretty impressive haul.

Ive seen Blake Stouffer twice and he reminds me of Chris Sabo, dead pull hitter who hits everything very very hard.

reds44
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Wait a minute. Fraizer goes to Billings and Cozart is in Dayton? That makes ZERO sense at all to me.

Benihana
07-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Wait a minute. Fraizer goes to Billings and Cozart is in Dayton? That makes ZERO sense at all to me.

couldn't agree more :rolleyes:

TOBTTReds
07-08-2007, 11:44 PM
Wait a minute. Fraizer goes to Billings and Cozart is in Dayton? That makes ZERO sense at all to me.

Pulling this one straight out of the air: Maybe they think Cozart won't ever really hit, so they might as well put him on the fast track to being a utility IF'er. Where as Fraizer is a major offensive prospect, so they want to go slowly with him a bit to make sure he isn't in over his head right away.

Kc61
07-09-2007, 12:21 PM
Pulling this one straight out of the air: Maybe they think Cozart won't ever really hit, so they might as well put him on the fast track to being a utility IF'er. Where as Fraizer is a major offensive prospect, so they want to go slowly with him a bit to make sure he isn't in over his head right away.


Or maybe Frazier is going to have to learn a new position.

TOBTTReds
07-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Or maybe Frazier is going to have to learn a new position.

I don't see the need to be lower in the org because of learning a new position. Dayton has a "gem" of a field. So if he is going to learn a new one, might as well do it on a nice field. Not much changes in terms of fielding from level to level, so I have a hard time thinking that is what they are doing.

OesterPoster
07-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Dayton has a "gem" of a field.

I'm not sure if your pun was intended or not, but I liked it. :thumbup:

11larkin11
07-10-2007, 04:08 AM
Frazier (Billings) and Lotzkar(GCL) still not showing up, but Carrol is.

Benihana
07-11-2007, 03:32 PM
any word on negotiations with Taylor Jordan or Scott Alexander? Blake Stouffer?

OesterPoster
07-11-2007, 06:02 PM
Frazier is now showing up on the Billings roster, number 52. He's listed as a shortstop.

Lotzkar still isn't on the GCL roster.

Az. Reds Fan
07-12-2007, 03:21 PM
Lotzkar is now showing up on the GCL Reds roster.

Benihana
07-12-2007, 03:22 PM
Interestingly, Frazier, Lotzkar, Cozart and Carroll are all not showing up as signed on cincinnatireds.com

Guess they are just slow to update.

Has anyone heard about any recent negotiations involving Stouffer, Hildenbrandt, Jordan, or Alexander?

dougdirt
07-12-2007, 03:35 PM
Something interesting on Baseball America today. They said something about guys were signing at about 90% of what their slot totals were from last year. No one has signed above slot money yet this year. Could be interesting to see how that plays out with some of these guys.

Az. Reds Fan
07-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Something interesting on Baseball America today. They said something about guys were signing at about 90% of what their slot totals were from last year. No one has signed above slot money yet this year. Could be interesting to see how that plays out with some of these guys.


Doesn't sound encouraging when it comes to signing Taylor or Alexander.

OesterPoster
07-12-2007, 04:07 PM
Just an FYI when searching for updates on Evan Hildebrandt...notice the spelling of his last name. On all the Canadian media and baseball web sites, his last name is spelled "Hildebrandt", but on Baseball America and the Reds' official site, it's spelled "Hildenbrandt".

I guess the signing of guys at 90% of last year's slots could be good or bad. Do the guys who don't sign this year expect to get 100% or higher next year, or could they possibly only receive 90% of what they'd have signed for this year?

Topcat
07-13-2007, 03:10 AM
When are we going to officially adopt a few new prospects?

Red Leader
07-16-2007, 11:32 AM
When are we going to officially adopt a few new prospects?

We'll be starting the prospect draft tomorrow. 9am. I just got home from vacation and am swamped at work, trying to catch up. Tomorrow, we'll do the draft.

cincy09
07-16-2007, 11:52 AM
Edit

OesterPoster
07-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Here's an interesting analysis on the slotting of signing bonuses by aggiebaseball.net. It was posted last week, but I just noticed it today. If the number for Stouffer is accurate, he has to be thinking about going back to A&M for another year and possibly increasing his chances of a bigger bonus.


Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Bonuses down in MLB

Reading Baseball America last night and I found some interesting information about the decrease in signing bonuses from last year and MLB's emphasis on keeping the bonuses down this year and in the future.

John Manuel on MLB reducing Bonuses 10% from Last Season

Major League Baseball has made good on its promise to try to drive signing bonuses down. According to information acquired by Baseball America, bonuses are down in the first round and throughout the first five rounds of the draft. The 13 first-round picks that have signed so far all have signed for deals at or below 90 percent of last year's slot, and no club has bucked the recommendations set by MLB's commissioner's office yet.

An even more telling sign of the discipline MLB has imposed on clubs in the draft shows up in rounds 5-10. The final bonus slot of the fifth round went to Yankees pick Adam Olbrychowski, who got $123,000. As MLB's Frank Coonelly told BA in early June, just prior to the draft, MLB tracks the first five rounds of the draft, but clubs have to run their above-slot bonuses past Coonelly and the commissioner's office even after the first five rounds.
So what does it mean for the Aggies? Well if this continues then the offers that will go out for the five unsigned draft choices that can enroll next fall are pretty easy to figure out.

David Newmann $226,800
Blake Stouffer $180,000
Will Middlebrooks $137,250
Drake Britton, Barrett Loux, Ben Feltner, Jordan Chambless $123,000 max

Speaking of bonuses, after wanting a cool million and telling the Aggie coaches he would not sign for anything less, it only took $387,500 for Eric Eiland to sign with Toronto. I know that is a lot of money but all the Aggie coaches ever want when signing a high school player is for them to sign for the amount that they said they would sign for when going through the recruiting process last fall.

On June 14th I wrote this on TexAgs:

"First run through their draft picks for Toronto had them sign 12 of 30. I still think Ahrens will be gone after the THSBCA All-Star game Saturday but the players draft at 82 (Jess Todd, $400K) and 83 (Travis Mattair, $395K) have both signed for $45K less than the 82 and 83 pick signed for last year. If that keeps up, the bonus for Eiland's slot would be $382K and I don't know if that would buy him away from A&M."

I guess I was wrong and he would sign for $0.40 on the dollar, but if the MLB draft starts to seriously follow the slotting system, then premium picks will actually go in the round which their talent dictates and the high bonuses given to players in the later rounds will slow to a trickle. If Eiland had not signed for such a low bonus after saying it would take $1,000,000 then he would be an Aggie and would not have gone back on his commitment to the Aggie coaches.

Benihana
07-18-2007, 10:50 AM
Sounds like 48th round pick Michael Henry signed. A real anamoly for a HS guy drafted after the 30th round to sign.

dougdirt
07-18-2007, 01:32 PM
Sounds like 48th round pick Michael Henry signed. A real anamoly for a HS guy drafted after the 30th round to sign.

Im beginning to wonder how many of these low round HS guys are signing due to inabilities to get into college? Or if they are signing for over slot, although I have not heard of that type of thing happening yet. There seem to be, at least with the Reds, a lot of low round HS guys signing that normally would not sign and at least go the JUCO route, although I guess with the draft and follow no longer an option if they are rethinking that route?

LoganBuck
07-18-2007, 03:26 PM
Last year their was a pitcher locally, that had scouts trailing him all season. He put up ridiculous numbers, but was only 5'10". Lefty, Fastball consistently 88-90, curveball. Big game guy. He never wanted to go to college, but found out a little too late where his stock was around the start of his senior year, as far as the draft. He did not want to ride buses, at the ridiculously low income levels of late round picks.. He went to a JUCO, and put up good SO numbers but he developed some arm soreness, and was shut down because of lack of control. The current system has holes in it for kids that aren't college material, that would like to try and continue their careers, that get drafted late.

CTA513
07-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Kyle Lotzkar made his first appearance with the GCL Reds today.
Lotzkar: 1 Inning, 2 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 1 K

The game is suspended right now due to rain.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_07_21_rdsrok_twirok_1

LoganBuck
08-02-2007, 02:08 AM
Any news on any of the remaining unsigned?

fearofpopvol1
08-04-2007, 03:14 AM
Was also wondering the same. Is it officially passed the date yet where the draftees have to be signed?

dougdirt
08-04-2007, 03:27 AM
August 15th is the last day to sign draft picks.

BRM
08-07-2007, 11:49 AM
August 15th is the last day to sign draft picks.

It's starting to look unlikely that Stouffer or the rest of the remaining unsigned top 10 picks will sign. Or are you hearing otherwise Doug?

OesterPoster
08-07-2007, 12:55 PM
I've seen rumors on A&M boards that they expect Stouffer to return.

dougdirt
08-07-2007, 01:14 PM
I don't have any rumors flying around on specific guys, but I have read a few places that if anyone is going to be signing for over slot, to expect it to be done on August 15th becuase MLB is not overly happy with it and want to keep it to a minimum. Maybe thats whats going on here. Of course, maybe its not.

BRM
08-07-2007, 01:15 PM
I've seen rumors on A&M boards that they expect Stouffer to return.

That's too bad. I was fairly excited about getting him in the Reds system.

OesterPoster
08-07-2007, 04:49 PM
That's too bad. I was fairly excited about getting him in the Reds system.

They're all basing it on his slot value of $180,000 though. If the Reds pay over slot like Doug mentioned above, then maybe he'll sign on the 15th.

LoganBuck
08-07-2007, 11:20 PM
With Stanton and Guardado both now on the roster, the amount needed over slot will go to paying for the postgame spread. I know that was mean, but seriously we are talking pennies in baseball dollars. Spend $$$ on the talent.

Quick name the last three Reds drafted position players to make the majors: Chris Denorfia, Steven Smitherman, and Dane Sardinha

Mario-Rijo
08-11-2007, 01:45 PM
The latest, it doesn't sound great. :confused:

http://http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070810&content_id=2141198&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin


8-10-07


More signings? Under new rules, Wednesday is the deadline for organizations to sign picks from the 2007 First-Year Player Draft. Cincinnati has already signed more than 30 of its 50 selections, including first-round pick Devin Mesoraco. Among the unsigned picks are first baseman Blake Stouffer (fourth round) and pitcher Evan Hildenbrandt (sixth round).

Chris Buckley, the team's senior scouting director, is optimistic that he could sign three or four more players.

"I'm hopeful," Buckley said. "If we don't, we still signed a good amount of players and feel good about what we did."

dougdirt
08-11-2007, 01:56 PM
I would bet on at least Hildenbrandt being signed.

fearofpopvol1
08-11-2007, 01:58 PM
I'd really like to see them get it done with Alexander and Hildenbrandt. O'Neill and Stouffer would be bonuses.

Mario-Rijo
08-12-2007, 03:05 AM
Some insight to the deadline from Buster O:


The draft pick staredowns
posted: Saturday, August 11, 2007

About half of the first-round draft picks remain unsigned, and we don't yet know whether that's because teams are really going to honor a mandate from the commissioner's office, or because they feel the need to put on a big show of support before they ignore the arm-twisting in the last hours before the looming Aug. 15 deadline.

Some executives are betting on the latter. "Somebody is going to cave," said one club official. "Nobody wants to be the first across the line, but as soon as somebody steps across, everybody else will follow."

To review: The commissioner's office has put pressure on teams to adhere to its recommendations for signing bonuses for players taken in the first five rounds of the draft, and to date, only about half of the first-round picks have signed -- despite rumors of many pre-draft deals between teams and their picks. So it's conceivable that after Wednesday's deadline, there will be a whole lot of teams trying to explain to their respective fan bases why, at a time when the sport is thick in revenue, they couldn't sign their No. 1 draft picks.

The Tampa Bay Devil Rays need pitching, selected Vanderbilt's David Price with the first pick, and he remains unsigned (although all indications are he will sign, as Marc Lancaster writes). The Orioles broke a decade-long boycott of high-profile Scott Boras clients and selected Georgia Tech catcher Matt Wieters -- a situation that has been inherited by new baseball operations honcho Andy MacPhail. The Tigers, among the most aggressive teams in doling out signing bonuses, selected high school right-hander Rick Porcello. It would get ugly for those teams, and for others, if they don't lock up these players.

But some officials think that what is occurring is a charade, and that teams are lined up and ready to make deals -- for prices higher than recommended by the commissioner's office -- on the last day. "I think there is some concern about being the team that breaks the logjam," said one official. "If the teams wait until the last day, they can all cross the line together."

The Mariners are aware of the deadline, and are negotiating, writes Larry Stone.


I would hate to be the GM that doesn't sign a 1st round pick, Wow! And if some of this doesn't pan out for teams, we are talking one crazy and messed up draft next year.

dougdirt
08-12-2007, 12:26 PM
I would hate to be the GM that doesn't sign a 1st round pick, Wow! And if some of this doesn't pan out for teams, we are talking one crazy and messed up draft next year.

I think if baseball wants to put its foot down on overslotting signing bonuses then they need to implement a plan where a player is either going to sign for a set amount, or they are not going to sign at all. None of this, 'we recommend' stuff.

camisadelgolf
08-12-2007, 01:14 PM
I like the idea of setting a cap at each slot.

KoryMac5
08-12-2007, 01:38 PM
I think if baseball wants to put its foot down on overslotting signing bonuses then they need to implement a plan where a player is either going to sign for a set amount, or they are not going to sign at all. None of this, 'we recommend' stuff.

I would think that a plan of capping rookie salaries would work similiar to what the NBA had instituted a few years ago. The MLB union I doubt would have a problem with it since they have more of a vested interest in veteran ballplayers.

texasdave
08-14-2007, 11:39 AM
Found this on a Texas Aggies message board for what it's worth:

BaylorBaseball
posted 6:45p, 08/13/07



Here's an update from the moderator on a pretty good Red Sox site that's been mentioned on here before:

amfox1
Moderator
Posts: 3329
(8/13/07 6:30 pm)
Reply

Re: 2007 Draft Signing Deadline Thread
(Updated 8/13, 6:30pm)


It's 2+ days before the signing deadline and 35 players in the first five rounds are unsigned. Last year, only four players in the first five rounds (and eight in the first eight rounds) went unsigned.

12 first rounders are unsigned.
3 supp picks are unsigned.
3 second rounders (including Morris) are unsigned.
4 third rounders are unsigned.
7 fourth rounders are unsigned.
6 fifth rounders (including Middlebrooks) are unsigned.

Unsigned:
5 - TEX (expected to sign all but 4th rd'er Nash)

3 - MFY (expected to sign all)

2 - BOS (expected to sign 5th rd'er Middlebrooks but not 2nd rd'er Morris), TAM (expected to sign Price), BAL (expected to sign Wieters), DET (expected to sign Porcello), HOU, SF

1 - FLA (expected to sign Dominguez), ATL (not expected to sign 2nd rd'er Fields), PHI, WAS, CLE (not expected to sign 4th rd'er McFarland), KC (expected to sign Moustakas), CHC (expected to sign Vitters), CIN (expected to sign 4th rd'er Stouffer), STL, LAA, SEA (expected to sign Aumont), MIN, LAD, SD (not expected to sign 3rd rd'er Toledo), ARI (expected to sign Parker)

0 - TOR, NYM, CWS, MIL, PIT, OAK, COL

EDIT: signings are beginning to trickle in. Many more are expected - at least five (including Hunter Morris) are not expected to sign.

As noted elsewhere in this thread, if a team doesn't sign a pick in the first or second round, it gets a pick in essentially the same slot in the next draft. Unsigned third-round picks will merit a supplemental pick between the third and fourth rounds next year. Beyond the third round, there is no compensation for unsigned picks.
Expected supplemental picks:

Rd.2#14A - Atlanta (for Fields)
Rd.2#20A - Boston (for Morris)
Rd.3#31 - San Diego (for Toledo)

fearofpopvol1
08-14-2007, 12:18 PM
Interesting stuff. Wasn't Stouffer originally not expected to sign?

1 more day. It should be interesting to see what happens. Anyone else know anything about the other unsigned picks at this point? Is Alexander still a longshot?

Orenda
08-15-2007, 09:19 AM
SI reporting 27th pick Rick Porcello and Tigers in agreement on 7.3 million dollar signing bonus, besting Josh Beckett's record bonus. Sheesh. So much for slot assingment.

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 11:52 AM
SI reporting 27th pick Rick Porcello and Tigers in agreement on 7.3 million dollar signing bonus, besting Josh Beckett's record bonus. Sheesh. So much for slot assingment.

Well, he gets a 3.5 million dollar signing bonus. The rest of that money is paid to him yearly as he signed a Major League contract.

Orenda
08-15-2007, 12:02 PM
That was left out of the article, or I skipped it. But that seems more reasonable.

fearofpopvol1
08-15-2007, 01:35 PM
Last day. Anyone heard anything yet. Is 5PM the deadline?

edabbs44
08-15-2007, 01:35 PM
BA reporting Cincy signed Hildenbrandt.


Canadian prep righty Evan Hildenbrandt (Reds, sixth round), signed for $200,000. MLB recommends that players after the fifth round be capped at the slot for the last pick in the fifth round, which was $123,300 this year.

Props for the above-slot signing. I feel so New York.

edabbs44
08-15-2007, 01:36 PM
I would bet on at least Hildenbrandt being signed.

Good call.

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 01:40 PM
Last day. Anyone heard anything yet. Is 5PM the deadline?

Midnight is the deadline.

And nice job on Hildenbrandt. From the beginning he told them he wanted higher than 6th round money and that they knew it from the beginning. As things moved along he was told that he would be signed by the Reds scouting director, so it looks like its been in the works for a while but just took some sorting out by MLB to get it done.

fearofpopvol1
08-15-2007, 01:57 PM
That's great news. Now, if we could get Alexander inked, that would be awesome. Probably not likely though.

Any word on Stouffer?

edabbs44
08-15-2007, 02:04 PM
Midnight is the deadline.

And nice job on Hildenbrandt. From the beginning he told them he wanted higher than 6th round money and that they knew it from the beginning. As things moved along he was told that he would be signed by the Reds scouting director, so it looks like its been in the works for a while but just took some sorting out by MLB to get it done.

Or maybe waiting until the last minute, since they went above slot. Though not ridiculously above slot.

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 02:07 PM
Well the word out of MLB offices is that MLB was not approving hardly any deals over slot at all until the last two days....

GoReds33
08-15-2007, 03:07 PM
This is great news. I hate when teams draft players, and don't sign them. Especially when they are the top picks. If an organization only signs 20 of its draft picks it has less of a chance to suceed, than a team who signs all of them. I understand the late round picks are usually not signed though. I don't really understand why you would draft a player in the last round if you aren't going to sign them.

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 03:15 PM
This is great news. I hate when teams draft players, and don't sign them. Especially when they are the top picks. If an organization only signs 20 of its draft picks it has less of a chance to suceed, than a team who signs all of them. I understand the late round picks are usually not signed though. I don't really understand why you would draft a player in the last round if you aren't going to sign them.

Its not that you don't try to sign them, its that they choose to go to school and try to improve their status and sign for a lot more money the next year or in 3 years.

texasdave
08-15-2007, 04:19 PM
That's great news. Now, if we could get Alexander inked, that would be awesome. Probably not likely though.

Any word on Stouffer?

Looks like Stouffer is staying at A&M.

http://collegebaseball.rivals.com/wire.asp

BRM
08-15-2007, 04:20 PM
Looks like Stouffer is staying at A&M.

http://collegebaseball.rivals.com/wire.asp

Well, that stinks.

texasdave
08-15-2007, 04:30 PM
I recently attended an Astros-Cubs game, and they were honoring the Texas A&M sports teams that had won their conference title. Blake Stouffer was there to represent the Aggie baseball squad. After the ceremony they had Stouffer throw out the first pitch. (One of at least three first pitches. It seems nowadays in Houston everybody eventually gets to throw out a first pitch. The most impressive of the first-pitchers was a young lady from Houston who will be representing Texas at the Miss USA contest. That night the Houston fans got two waves going at the same time. Impressive. Or else the upper deck was just really, really slow.) Back to the story, he threw it high and wide of the catcher and it went to the backstop. :eek:

Az. Reds Fan
08-15-2007, 05:50 PM
Looks like Stouffer is staying at A&M.

http://collegebaseball.rivals.com/wire.asp

Well, mabey it's time to allocate some of those funds towards Alexander. MLB slot suggestions be damned.

Kc61
08-15-2007, 06:23 PM
Let's just wait until midnight to despair. Maybe a couple of these top 30s will get signed today. Krivsky tends to like to sign his picks.

corkedbat
08-15-2007, 08:28 PM
Do we know if any of these are going JUCO and may be Draft-and-follows?

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 08:40 PM
Draft and Follows no longer exist.

Eric_Davis
08-16-2007, 02:44 AM
Well, it's way past midnight, and no reports on this thread that the four have signed, so I'm assuming those four unsigned remained unsigned, thus keeping them out of professional baseball in Major League affiliated leagues until next year's draft?

dougdirt
08-16-2007, 03:18 AM
I guess we will find out for sure in the morning.... but it looks like Hildenbrandt was the last guy to sign with the Reds.

fearofpopvol1
08-16-2007, 03:34 AM
So do we get a 4A pick for Stouffer next year?

I really think they should've tried harder for Alexander (unless they somehow someway made that happen).

dougdirt
08-16-2007, 12:16 PM
I think you only get replacement picks for the first 3 rounds. Although 3rd round picks you only receive a supplemental 3rd round pick regardless of where you drafted a player.

fearofpopvol1
08-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Ah, that sucks.

So I'm guessing it's confirmed that none of the other picks signed?

texasdave
08-16-2007, 02:23 PM
The Reds had 6 selections in the first three rounds and signed all of them. If Hildenbrandt did indeed sign, they inked 9 of their top 10 selections. Good job, Wayne! :beerme:

camisadelgolf
08-16-2007, 02:57 PM
24 out of the first 28 seems pretty good to me.

Eric_Davis
08-16-2007, 07:15 PM
24 out of the first 28 seems pretty good to me.


That's tremendous.

fearofpopvol1
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
The other thing that sucks is that out of the 18 players total that the Reds didn't sign, 13 of them were pitchers.

GoReds33
08-16-2007, 09:21 PM
The other thing that sucks is that out of the 18 players total that the Reds didn't sign, 13 of them were pitchers.
How many that didn't sign were out of highschool?:confused:

Gallen5862
08-17-2007, 04:18 PM
This is the updated signings list for the Reds.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2007xteam.php?team=CIN7

2007 Draft: Cincinnati Reds

Players signed indicated in Bold


Round Overall Player Position School State
1 15 Devin*Mesoraco c Punxsutawney (Pa.) HS PA
As strong as this year's high school class was considered at the outset of the season, it got even better when high school righthanders Jarrod Parker and Nevin Griffith and Mesoraco came out of the gate showing better tools and ability than they had last summer and fall. Griffith and Mesoraco appeared in showcases, but they didn't show impact potential until this spring, and Mesoraco has been the biggest riser of them all. An arm injury led to Tommy John surgery when he was a sophomore, and he was relegated to DH duties as a junior. His arm strength has slowly returned, and this spring he has shown a 70 arm with quick, efficient releases. Defensively, Mesoraco compares favorably to 2001 Angels first-rounder Jeff Mathis, with athleticism serving as the foundation of an agile, quick-twitch player who receives and blocks exceptionally well. He shows above-average bat speed and 50-55 power at the plate. He's a solid-average runner, too, rounding out a legitimate five-tool package that probably won't make it out of the first round.
1s 34 Todd*Frazier 3b Rutgers NJ
1s 53 Kyle*Lotzkar rhp South Delta (B.C.) SS BC
2 79 Zack*Cozart ss Mississippi MS
3 104 Scott*Carroll rhp Missouri State MO
3 109 Neftali*Soto 3b Colegio Marista HS, Manati, P.R. PR
4 139 Blake*Stouffer 3b/of Texas A&M TX
5 169 Drew*Bowman lhp Nebraska NE
6 199 Evan*Hildenbrandt rhp Mennonite Educational Institute SS, Abbotsford, B.C. BC
7 229 Brandon*Waring 3b Wofford SC
8 259 Drew*O'Neill rhp Penn State PA
9 289 Alexis*Oliveras of Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guaynabo, P.R. PR
10 319 Harris*Honeycutt rhp South Carolina SC
11 349 Jordan*Wideman c Streetsville SS, Mississauga, Ont. ON
12 379 Scott*Gaffney rhp/ss Penn State PA
13 409 Brandon*Menchaca of Delaware DE
14 439 Joseph*Krebs lhp Texas TX
15 469 Matt*Klinker rhp Furman SC
16 499 Shea*Snowden lhp Brandon (Miss.) HS MS
17 529 Jesse*Craig rhp Brigham Young UT
18 559 Taylor*Jordan rhp Merritt Island (Fla.) HS FL
19 589 Jeff*Jeffords rhp South Carolina SC
20 619 Jake*Kahaulelio ss Oral Roberts OK
21 649 Jeremy*Horst lhp Armstrong Atlantic State (Ga.) GA
22 679 Tyler*Rhoden rhp Vanderbilt TN
23 709 Jason*Bour c George Mason VA
24 739 Frank*Meade c Rutgers NJ
25 769 Eli*Rimes 1b Sonoma State (Calif.) CA
26 799 Curtis*Partch rhp Merced (Calif. ) JC CA
27 829 Jason*Roenicke rhp Cuesta (Calif.) JC CA
28 859 Derrick*Conaster rhp Tallahassee (Fla.) CC FL
29 889 Steven*Otterness lhp Embry-Riddle (Fla.) FL
30 919 Brett*Bartles 3b Duke NC
31 949 Jordan*Hotchkiss rhp Brevard (N.C.) NC
32 978 Brandon*Douglas ss Northern Iowa IA
33 1007 Brodie*Pullen 3b Calhoun (Ga.) HS GA
34 1036 Jeremy*Vinyard rhp Boaz (Ala.) HS AL
35 1065 Thad*Weber rhp Nebraska NE
36 1094 Leon*Landry 3b Baker (La.) HS LA
37 1122 Scott*Alexander lhp Cardinal Newman HS, Santa Rosa, Calif. CA
38 1150 Ari*Ronick lhp Portland OR
39 1178 Jimmy*Nelson rhp Niceville (Fla.) HS FL
40 1206 Ross*Hopkins c Tyee HS, Seatac, Wash. WA
41 1232 Kevin*Hickey of Concordia (N.Y.) NY
42 1258 Sean*Bierman lhp Kinnelon (N.J.) HS NJ
43 1284 Austin*Taylor 3b Thomas County Central HS, Thomasville, Ga. GA
44 1310 Josh*Beal rhp Independence (Kan.) CC KS
45 1336 Jordan*Brown rhp Meridian (Miss.) CC MS
46 1360 Mike*McGuire rhp Delaware DE
47 1383 Drew*Benes 3b Westminster Christian Academy, St. Louis MO
48 1404 Michael*Henry rhp St. Patrick's HS, Ottawa, Ont. ON
49 1425 Cameron*Gray rhp Silverthorn Collegiate HS, Toronto ON
50 1446 Jordan*Chambless rhp Texas A&M TX

camisadelgolf
08-17-2007, 04:58 PM
This is the updated signings list for the Reds.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2007xteam.php?team=CIN7

2007 Draft: Cincinnati Reds

Players signed indicated in Bold


Round Overall Player Position School State
1 15 Devin*Mesoraco c Punxsutawney (Pa.) HS PA
As strong as this year's high school class was considered at the outset of the season, it got even better when high school righthanders Jarrod Parker and Nevin Griffith and Mesoraco came out of the gate showing better tools and ability than they had last summer and fall. Griffith and Mesoraco appeared in showcases, but they didn't show impact potential until this spring, and Mesoraco has been the biggest riser of them all. An arm injury led to Tommy John surgery when he was a sophomore, and he was relegated to DH duties as a junior. His arm strength has slowly returned, and this spring he has shown a 70 arm with quick, efficient releases. Defensively, Mesoraco compares favorably to 2001 Angels first-rounder Jeff Mathis, with athleticism serving as the foundation of an agile, quick-twitch player who receives and blocks exceptionally well. He shows above-average bat speed and 50-55 power at the plate. He's a solid-average runner, too, rounding out a legitimate five-tool package that probably won't make it out of the first round.
1s 34 Todd*Frazier 3b Rutgers NJ
1s 53 Kyle*Lotzkar rhp South Delta (B.C.) SS BC
2 79 Zack*Cozart ss Mississippi MS
3 104 Scott*Carroll rhp Missouri State MO
3 109 Neftali*Soto 3b Colegio Marista HS, Manati, P.R. PR
4 139 Blake*Stouffer 3b/of Texas A&M TX
5 169 Drew*Bowman lhp Nebraska NE
6 199 Evan*Hildenbrandt rhp Mennonite Educational Institute SS, Abbotsford, B.C. BC
7 229 Brandon*Waring 3b Wofford SC
8 259 Drew*O'Neill rhp Penn State PA
9 289 Alexis*Oliveras of Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guaynabo, P.R. PR
10 319 Harris*Honeycutt rhp South Carolina SC
11 349 Jordan*Wideman c Streetsville SS, Mississauga, Ont. ON
12 379 Scott*Gaffney rhp/ss Penn State PA
13 409 Brandon*Menchaca of Delaware DE
14 439 Joseph*Krebs lhp Texas TX
15 469 Matt*Klinker rhp Furman SC
16 499 Shea*Snowden lhp Brandon (Miss.) HS MS
17 529 Jesse*Craig rhp Brigham Young UT
18 559 Taylor*Jordan rhp Merritt Island (Fla.) HS FL
19 589 Jeff*Jeffords rhp South Carolina SC
20 619 Jake*Kahaulelio ss Oral Roberts OK
21 649 Jeremy*Horst lhp Armstrong Atlantic State (Ga.) GA
22 679 Tyler*Rhoden rhp Vanderbilt TN
23 709 Jason*Bour c George Mason VA
24 739 Frank*Meade c Rutgers NJ
25 769 Eli*Rimes 1b Sonoma State (Calif.) CA
26 799 Curtis*Partch rhp Merced (Calif. ) JC CA
27 829 Jason*Roenicke rhp Cuesta (Calif.) JC CA
28 859 Derrick*Conaster rhp Tallahassee (Fla.) CC FL
29 889 Steven*Otterness lhp Embry-Riddle (Fla.) FL
30 919 Brett*Bartles 3b Duke NC
31 949 Jordan*Hotchkiss rhp Brevard (N.C.) NC
32 978 Brandon*Douglas ss Northern Iowa IA
33 1007 Brodie*Pullen 3b Calhoun (Ga.) HS GA
34 1036 Jeremy*Vinyard rhp Boaz (Ala.) HS AL
35 1065 Thad*Weber rhp Nebraska NE
36 1094 Leon*Landry 3b Baker (La.) HS LA
37 1122 Scott*Alexander lhp Cardinal Newman HS, Santa Rosa, Calif. CA
38 1150 Ari*Ronick lhp Portland OR
39 1178 Jimmy*Nelson rhp Niceville (Fla.) HS FL
40 1206 Ross*Hopkins c Tyee HS, Seatac, Wash. WA
41 1232 Kevin*Hickey of Concordia (N.Y.) NY
42 1258 Sean*Bierman lhp Kinnelon (N.J.) HS NJ
43 1284 Austin*Taylor 3b Thomas County Central HS, Thomasville, Ga. GA
44 1310 Josh*Beal rhp Independence (Kan.) CC KS
45 1336 Jordan*Brown rhp Meridian (Miss.) CC MS
46 1360 Mike*McGuire rhp Delaware DE
47 1383 Drew*Benes 3b Westminster Christian Academy, St. Louis MO
48 1404 Michael*Henry rhp St. Patrick's HS, Ottawa, Ont. ON
49 1425 Cameron*Gray rhp Silverthorn Collegiate HS, Toronto ON
50 1446 Jordan*Chambless rhp Texas A&M TX

That's very disappointing. I thought we could've signed someone.:p:

Gallen5862
08-17-2007, 07:06 PM
Thats a good one. :) Evan*Hildenbrandt rhp was signed before deadline. The Link will show what Baseball America bolded as players signed.

camisadelgolf
08-17-2007, 07:10 PM
Actually, the link doesn't (not for me, anyway).

Gallen5862
08-17-2007, 07:25 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2007xteam.php?team=CIN

2007 Draft: Cincinnati Reds

Players signed indicated in Bold



Round Overall Player Position School State
1 15 Devin Mesoraco c Punxsutawney (Pa.) HS PA
As strong as this year's high school class was considered at the outset of the season, it got even better when high school righthanders Jarrod Parker and Nevin Griffith and Mesoraco came out of the gate showing better tools and ability than they had last summer and fall. Griffith and Mesoraco appeared in showcases, but they didn't show impact potential until this spring, and Mesoraco has been the biggest riser of them all. An arm injury led to Tommy John surgery when he was a sophomore, and he was relegated to DH duties as a junior. His arm strength has slowly returned, and this spring he has shown a 70 arm with quick, efficient releases. Defensively, Mesoraco compares favorably to 2001 Angels first-rounder Jeff Mathis, with athleticism serving as the foundation of an agile, quick-twitch player who receives and blocks exceptionally well. He shows above-average bat speed and 50-55 power at the plate. He's a solid-average runner, too, rounding out a legitimate five-tool package that probably won't make it out of the first round.
1s 34 Todd Frazier 3b Rutgers NJ
1s 53 Kyle Lotzkar rhp South Delta (B.C.) SS BC
2 79 Zack Cozart ss Mississippi MS
3 104 Scott Carroll rhp Missouri State MO
3 109 Neftali Soto 3b Colegio Marista HS, Manati, P.R. PR
4 139 Blake Stouffer 3b/of Texas A&M TX
5 169 Drew Bowman lhp Nebraska NE
6 199 Evan Hildenbrandt rhp Mennonite Educational Institute SS, Abbotsford, B.C. BC
7 229 Brandon Waring 3b Wofford SC
8 259 Drew O'Neill rhp Penn State PA
9 289 Alexis Oliveras of Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guaynabo, P.R. PR
10 319 Harris Honeycutt rhp South Carolina SC
11 349 Jordan Wideman c Streetsville SS, Mississauga, Ont. ON
12 379 Scott Gaffney rhp/ss Penn State PA
13 409 Brandon Menchaca of Delaware DE
14 439 Joseph Krebs lhp Texas TX
15 469 Matt Klinker rhp Furman SC
16 499 Shea Snowden lhp Brandon (Miss.) HS MS
17 529 Jesse Craig rhp Brigham Young UT
18 559 Taylor Jordan rhp Merritt Island (Fla.) HS FL
19 589 Jeff Jeffords rhp South Carolina SC
20 619 Jake Kahaulelio ss Oral Roberts OK
21 649 Jeremy Horst lhp Armstrong Atlantic State (Ga.) GA
22 679 Tyler Rhoden rhp Vanderbilt TN
23 709 Jason Bour c George Mason VA
24 739 Frank Meade c Rutgers NJ
25 769 Eli Rimes 1b Sonoma State (Calif.) CA
26 799 Curtis Partch rhp Merced (Calif. ) JC CA
27 829 Jason Roenicke rhp Cuesta (Calif.) JC CA
28 859 Derrick Conaster rhp Tallahassee (Fla.) CC FL
29 889 Steven Otterness lhp Embry-Riddle (Fla.) FL
30 919 Brett Bartles 3b Duke NC
31 949 Jordan Hotchkiss rhp Brevard (N.C.) NC
32 978 Brandon Douglas ss Northern Iowa IA
33 1007 Brodie Pullen 3b Calhoun (Ga.) HS GA
34 1036 Jeremy Vinyard rhp Boaz (Ala.) HS AL
35 1065 Thad Weber rhp Nebraska NE
36 1094 Leon Landry 3b Baker (La.) HS LA
37 1122 Scott Alexander lhp Cardinal Newman HS, Santa Rosa, Calif. CA
38 1150 Ari Ronick lhp Portland OR
39 1178 Jimmy Nelson rhp Niceville (Fla.) HS FL
40 1206 Ross Hopkins c Tyee HS, Seatac, Wash. WA
41 1232 Kevin Hickey of Concordia (N.Y.) NY
42 1258 Sean Bierman lhp Kinnelon (N.J.) HS NJ
43 1284 Austin Taylor 3b Thomas County Central HS, Thomasville, Ga. GA
44 1310 Josh Beal rhp Independence (Kan.) CC KS
45 1336 Jordan Brown rhp Meridian (Miss.) CC MS
46 1360 Mike McGuire rhp Delaware DE
47 1383 Drew Benes 3b Westminster Christian Academy, St. Louis MO
48 1404 Michael Henry rhp St. Patrick's HS, Ottawa, Ont. ON
49 1425 Cameron Gray rhp Silverthorn Collegiate HS, Toronto ON
50 1446 Jordan Chambless rhp Texas A&M TX

Gallen5862
08-17-2007, 07:27 PM
Let me know if this new link works better.

camisadelgolf
08-18-2007, 07:17 AM
Let me know if this new link works better.

Much better! Thank you. :thumbup:

Jones1
10-17-2007, 09:33 AM
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