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ITHIKABAND
06-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Is it just me or has anyone noticed Homer's fastball didnt reach 97mph which it did regularly the last few years. I saw him with the Dragons a few summers back and he was hitting 96 and 97 alot. I was at the game and he didnt go above 95 and was pitching mostly in the low 90's where as in the minors he pitched in the mid 90's most games. Am I missing something what happened to the 96 97 fastball?

mole44
06-09-2007, 06:07 PM
I saw several pitches come up 96... His velocity is not the problem. Its his command.

jfar23
06-09-2007, 06:07 PM
Damaged goods, Krivsky is filing a grievance against Dayton as we speak.

ITHIKABAND
06-09-2007, 06:13 PM
This is why I rarely post on this board!

NorrisHopper30
06-09-2007, 07:00 PM
Anyone else notice the first strikeout against Sizemore that was way up... I think that fastball was 89 while earlier in the inning he was at 96 a few times.

Donder
06-09-2007, 07:38 PM
I apologize in advance because this post doesn't have anything about Bailey's velocity, but I just noticed that 6 of the top 9 threads currently on the Sun Deck have to do with Homer. Do you think we as Reds fans are excited about him at all? :D

TC81190
06-09-2007, 08:34 PM
Homer topped out at 96 I think, I only remember seeing 95. His velocity went down he topped around 90 in the later innings.

11larkin11
06-09-2007, 09:43 PM
ALmost everytime I looked up there it was 96, I think my friend and I saw 97 once, I think it was the second time he got Sizemore.

George Foster
06-09-2007, 09:50 PM
you also have to remember it depends on what gun is clocking him. What brand, how old it is, etc. Also GAB is known throughout baseball to have a "shallow" pitching mound, which means the ground between the pitching rubber and the grass is not that steep. The steeper that part of the mound is, the faster I have heard you can throw, because of the more severe "drop-off."

REDblooded
06-09-2007, 09:52 PM
nah, I saw a lot of 92-94, occasionaly putting it 94-95, with only about 5-7 pitches reacing 96. Not bad, but I distinclty remember reading about one of his starts last year in Chattanooga where it was pointed out that he was 94-96, and touching 97 on his 97th and final pitch of the night.

ITHIKABAND
06-09-2007, 10:58 PM
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_88673.asp

"His fastball has been in the 96-97 mph range, topping out at 98"

hebroncougar
06-09-2007, 11:06 PM
All this could be nothing but differences in radar guns.

Superdude
06-10-2007, 12:08 AM
He jacked up a few in the 93-96MPH range, but settled in the 90-93MPH range for most of the game according to the stadium gun. maybe it was just the gun, but even in Louisville, the buzz seemed to be that his fastball was not quite as blistering as it was in '06. Maybe as the year drags on, he'll start pumping the high 90's gas again.

camisadelgolf
06-10-2007, 01:52 AM
I believe he was requested to hold back a little to give the Indians a chance.

keeganbrick
06-10-2007, 02:52 AM
Anyone else notice the first strikeout against Sizemore that was way up... I think that fastball was 89 while earlier in the inning he was at 96 a few times.

Thats not his fastball. That was either his hard slider or cut fastball.

dunner13
06-10-2007, 08:25 AM
Its also possible that he was struggling with his command so he took alittle off of his fast ball. I believe he only threw 63 strikes in 114 pitches, so he was struggling with his command alittle.

Doro
06-10-2007, 10:03 AM
Depends what gun your going by. Fox sport's gun is always slow by like 2-3 mph.

camisadelgolf
06-10-2007, 12:16 PM
Thats not his fastball. That was either his hard slider or cut fastball.

I believe it was his cut fastball in that particular at-bat.

BearcatShane
06-10-2007, 12:45 PM
Just so everyone knows, Homer has two fastballs, a 4 seem and a 2 seem, the 4 seem will be 95-97 and the 2 seem stays in the 91-93 range.

boognish
06-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Much ado about nothing. In Lincecum's first start he took a little off his fastball when he had difficulty with command as well. As Shane suggests, maybe the low-90s varieties were mostly two seamers. As long as it "explodes" and is difficult to hit, what difference does it make if it comes in 91 or 96?

HumnHilghtFreel
06-10-2007, 01:26 PM
I'll take a 92 mph fastball with good movement over a 97 mph straight as an arrow heater every time.

But as others have stated, he may have been easing up to try to throw more strikes or simply mixing up his fastball types. It's nothing to be concerned over, IMO.

Doro
06-30-2007, 01:02 PM
I'll take a 92 mph fastball with good movement over a 97 mph straight as an arrow heater every time.

But as others have stated, he may have been easing up to try to throw more strikes or simply mixing up his fastball types. It's nothing to be concerned over, IMO.

I agree but I dont think Homer has that GREAT movement. I wish he would use his 4 seamer more..... its really his only gifted pitch and without it he has the same stuff as most the pitchers in MLB.

His drop in velocity might also be due to trying to pace himself throughout the game. All through the minors he had high pitch counts and didnt go deep into games. Maybe hes trying to change this.