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Joseph
06-18-2007, 01:02 PM
According to Fox Sports News, Sam Perlozzo has been fired. Andy MacPhail has been hired as COO, and is going to interview Girardi.

KoryMac5
06-18-2007, 01:08 PM
Buster Olney has just confirmed that Perlozzo has been fired, and that MacPhail has been hired. Girardi will be interviewed today or tomorrow depending on which source you listen too.

cumberlandreds
06-18-2007, 01:14 PM
Not a surprise. The Orioles have been pretty bad this season. They were swept last week by the Nats and this past weekend by the D-Backs.

fargo55
06-18-2007, 01:24 PM
Joe's brother George is a practicing Anesthesiologist in Fort Collins Colorado. Last month, while not being specific, he said Joe would be managing in the big leagues by the end of June. I like his toughness and willingness to take on the tough issues with ownership. He was a well respected player, and team-mates trusted him as their elected player rep. I always thought he would land with the Yankees.

vaticanplum
06-18-2007, 01:37 PM
Holy crap. My Orioles fan friends are going to wet themselves.

Johnny Footstool
06-18-2007, 01:38 PM
Now Wayne won't have to deal with the potentially uncomfortable feeling of being the first to fire his manager this season.

Joseph
06-18-2007, 01:44 PM
Now Wayne won't have to deal with the potentially uncomfortable feeling of being the first to fire his manager this season.

Maybe he'll sneak one through on the heels of this announcement hoping to avoid attention.

NJReds
06-18-2007, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Leo Mazzone will stick around. Isn't he good friends with Perlozzo?

Chip R
06-18-2007, 02:22 PM
I wonder if Leo Mazzone will stick around. Isn't he good friends with Perlozzo?


If the Os are smart they will keep him around.

Red Heeler
06-18-2007, 02:37 PM
If the Os are smart they will keep him around.

If a frog had wings...

blumj
06-18-2007, 03:20 PM
I wonder if Leo Mazzone will stick around. Isn't he good friends with Perlozzo?
Yeah, that was the word when he took the job. The Orioles can't be the first (or only) team that was willing to pay Mazzone pretty damn well, but he and Perlozzo being good friends was supposedly the kicker. You have to wonder.

Strikes Out Looking
06-18-2007, 03:38 PM
Mazzone specifically came to the O's to be with Perlozzo who is one of his best friends in baseball. More importantly is the hiring of McPhail--the O's already have Duquette and Flanagan as Vice-Presidents--they were co-GM's and now I believe Flanagan is the one who is basically the traditional GM. I'm wondering if they will be gone soon as well?

The problem in Baltimore isn't the manager or the front office--it's Peter Angelos. He's been making life very tough for all his GM's for nearly a decade, last winter he vetoed a trade of Brian Roberts. Until he's gone, I don't think the Oriole way will make a comeback, Girardi or no Girardi.

Unassisted
06-18-2007, 04:08 PM
Considering his rep for clashing with ownership, if Girardi is hired for that job, it will be interesting to see if he can last more than a season working under the equally stubborn and volatile Angelos.

vaticanplum
06-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Considering his rep for clashing with ownership, if Girardi is hired for that job, it will be interesting to see if he can last more than a season working under the equally stubborn and volatile Angelos.

That's what I thought too. Seems pretty much like a match made in hell. Could be wildly entertaining to watch, though.

Sea Ray
06-18-2007, 04:40 PM
If they're smart they'll go with Davey Johnson. I found this:


The Baltimore Sun reported on May 27, 2007 that Davey Johnson is being seriously considered as a replacement for the current Baltimore Orioles manager Sam Perlozzo. Johnson stated that he has no ill will towards Oriole's owner Peter Angelos. "The ill will wasn't so much [about] getting fired, because I've been fired before and that wasn't an issue. The ill will I harbored is that I did try to do everything in my power to make the Orioles successful and please him. I did want to do that and I failed at that, but I did give it my best." Orioles management would not comment on the managerial situation.

The Baltimore Sun reported the firing of Orioles manager Sam Perlozzo on June 18, 2007. The article stated "There apparently is no timetable for the hiring of a long-time manager but Davey Johnson and [Joe] Girardi are at the top of the front office's wish list of potential replacements, according to club sources. Johnson was the last skipper to guide the Orioles to a winning season."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davey_Johnson

Of course I'd like to see Davey Johnson take over here in Cincinnati so I hope they go with someone else

WVRedsFan
06-18-2007, 07:28 PM
Now Wayne won't have to deal with the potentially uncomfortable feeling of being the first to fire his manager this season.

Baltimore - 29-40
Reds - 27-43 2 1/2 behind.

Why do they get a new manager and we don't. It's not fair.

We'll have to live with Narron until the bitter end. Sux.

Unassisted
06-18-2007, 07:44 PM
Baltimore - 29-40
Reds - 27-43 2 1/2 behind.

Why do they get a new manager and we don't. It's not fair.

We'll have to live with Narron until the bitter end. Sux.

I'd like to think it's because the FO realizes that an interim, midseason hire won't be as effective as an offseason hire, when a complete purge can be done. It's easier to change the tires when the car is stopped.

MrCinatit
06-18-2007, 08:01 PM
It also might be because Narron has a (slightly) better record than Perlozzo in his stint.

Narron: 151-171 .472
Perlozzo: 122-164 .427.

Of course, much of Narron's is thanks to the .500 ball they played when he first took over the team - as well as the hot streak the team went on at the beginning of last year.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2007, 08:09 PM
I'd like to think it's because the FO realizes that an interim, midseason hire won't be as effective as an offseason hire, when a complete purge can be done. It's easier to change the tires when the car is stopped.

I'd like to believe that too, but reality sets in and I realize that Castellini and Krivsky think there nothing wrong with the club that another relief pitcher couldn't cure. That they think Narron is an unpolished gem who just has lazy and unscrappy players. Scary.

Of course, if they change the tires while the car is moving, it might save Arroyo's and Harang's arms, too.

Matt700wlw
06-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Baltimore has a better record than the Reds....





Just to note. Narron should note that, too....

KoryMac5
06-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I can't see Girardi taking the job with the O's especially after Angelos dealt Mazzilli such a bad hand.

pedro
06-18-2007, 08:46 PM
I can't see Girardi taking the job with the O's especially after Angelos dealt Mazzilli such a bad hand.

I think Girardi will replace Torre after this season.

Matt700wlw
06-18-2007, 08:53 PM
I think Girardi will replace Torre after this season.

I think the Boss is leaning more toward Don Mattingly...

Strikes Out Looking
06-19-2007, 09:27 AM
I think the Boss is leaning more toward Don Mattingly...

Actually, I think he is leaning towards former Yankee great Jerry Narron.

MrCinatit
06-19-2007, 10:08 AM
Actually, I think he is leaning towards former Yankee great Jerry Narron.

They do have a lot of scrappy vets who know how to win.
And think of the line up opportunities! Josh Phelps - cleanup!

NJReds
06-19-2007, 10:34 AM
What if the Reds fired Narron and Dent, and hired Barry Larkin to be the skipper and Perlozzo to be his bench coach. That thought just popped in my head last night.

RedRoser
06-19-2007, 12:39 PM
Not sure Larkin is management material. But with that said, he'd be a vast improvement over current management.

NJReds
06-19-2007, 12:45 PM
Not sure Larkin is management material. But with that said, he'd be a vast improvement over current management.

Yeah, I'm not sure either. And it might be viewed as a marketing ploy to some extent. But with a seasoned bench coach, he has the smarts and leadership ability to get the job done, IMO.

SunDeck
06-19-2007, 02:24 PM
I'm not in favor of firing a manager unless you have a team that you think is capable of doing better in that current year. Could the Reds be that much better without Narron? I doubt it. This club just lacks the right players in key places. There is no veteran leadership for the young talent, the BP revolving door between Cincinnati and Louisville has been a joke and their starting rotation is barely 2/5 quality, even with Homer.

Fire Jerry, keep Jerry, it doesn't much matter this year or even next year until the players in the pipeline are ready to make an impact. I'm hopeful that the minor league situation is starting to come around, but I don't see the Reds winning at this point, whether their manager is Jerry Narron, Lou Pinella, Dame Edna or Jesus Christ.

RichRed
06-19-2007, 02:45 PM
If they're smart they'll go with Davey Johnson. I found this:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davey_Johnson

Of course I'd like to see Davey Johnson take over here in Cincinnati so I hope they go with someone else

I want the O's to take Dusty Baker. It scares the hell out of me that he could be available when/if Narron is fired.

Chip R
06-19-2007, 03:00 PM
I want the O's to take Dusty Baker. It scares the hell out of me that he could be available when/if Narron is fired.


Same here. :eek:

deltachi8
06-19-2007, 03:47 PM
I want the O's to take Dusty Baker. It scares the hell out of me that he could be available when/if Narron is fired.

Now you have gone ahead and scared me as well.

Redsland
06-19-2007, 03:49 PM
He has some superficial PC appeal in a city that has had some trouble in that regard.

M2
06-19-2007, 03:51 PM
What if the Reds fired Narron and Dent, and hired Barry Larkin to be the skipper and Perlozzo to be his bench coach. That thought just popped in my head last night.

As long as John Allen remains with the Reds, even in a non-baseball capacity, I doubt there's much chance of Larkin coming back.

KronoRed
06-19-2007, 04:54 PM
I want the O's to take Dusty Baker. It scares the hell out of me that he could be available when/if Narron is fired.

I can hear it now "Dusty is a proven winner"

Homer and Aaron would go into hiding