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reds44
06-18-2007, 07:14 PM
Keppinger 3B
Lopez SS
Votto DH
Herr 2B
Gutierrez 1B
Bannon RF
Edwards LF
Dickerson CF
Jorgesen C

Elizardo Ramirez makes his 2nd start.

reds44
06-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Votto: 0-1, K

Bruce remains in Sarasota and is starting in CF.

Thompson is off the DL and starting for Sarasota.

1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

reds44
06-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Elizardo:
1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1 HBP

reds44
06-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Thompson: 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

BearcatShane
06-18-2007, 08:49 PM
How hard does Thompson throw?

OnBaseMachine
06-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Votto singles to make him 1-for-2.

CTA513
06-18-2007, 10:13 PM
Chattanooga is up 4-0 in the 6th

Gardner: 5 Innings, 4 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 5 K

Fil3232
06-18-2007, 10:51 PM
Gardner is finished for the night.

Final line:

6.2 IP 4 H 0 ER 0 BB 6 K

His Double A ERA now stands at a very good 1.82

CTA513
06-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Louisville had a 4 run 8th to take a 6-5 lead

Ramirez: 4 Innings, 4 Hits, 2 Runs, 2 BB, 3 K
Kelly: 3 Innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs, 0 BB, 2 K
Guardado: 1 Inning, 1 Hit, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 0 K

Votto: 1 for 4 with a single and walk
Herr: 1 for 1 with a single and 3 walks
Keppinger: 2 for 5 with 2 singles and 1 RBI
Dickerson: 0 for 2 with 2 walks and 1 RBI

CTA513
06-18-2007, 10:57 PM
Chattanooga is now up 9-0 in the 7th

Gardner: 6.2 Innings, 4 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 6 K
Pelland: .1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 1 K

Janish: 2 for 4 with 2 singles and 2 RBIs
E. Cruz: 2 for 4 with a single, homerun and 2 RBIs
Garthwaite: 2 for 4 with a single, homerun and 3 RBIs
Anderson: 0 for 1 with 2 walks
Hanigan: 2 for 3 with 2 singles, a walk and 1 RBI

CTA513
06-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Sarasota won 4-3

Thompson: 4.2 Innings, 7 Hits, 3 Runs, 0 BB, 6 K
Ramon Ramirez: 3.1 Innings, 1 Hit, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 6 K
Roenicke (16th save): 1 Inning, 0 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB, 1 K

Griffin: 2 for 4 with 2 singles
DeJesus: 2 for 3 with 2 singles and a walk
Bruce: 0 for 3 with a walk
Rosales: 1 for 3 with a single, walk and 2 RBIs
Tatum: 1 for 4 with a single and 2 RBIs

Box Score: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_06_18_clrafa_sarafa_1

NC Reds
06-19-2007, 12:21 AM
It's great to see Gardner playing well again. It seems long ago that he and Pauly were considered prospects.

Caveat Emperor
06-19-2007, 12:25 AM
It's great to see Gardner playing well again. It seems long ago that he and Pauly were considered prospects.

Gardner would be, for me, a candidate for agressive promotion. He's lost a lot of time to injury, I'd let him pitch against the best competition he can possibly hold his own against.

He could work himself back into the team's future, possibly as a bullpen arm, in short order if he can keep retiring hitters.

oneupper
06-19-2007, 12:28 AM
Gardner would be, for me, a candidate for agressive promotion. .

When would the REDS have to put him on the roster to avoid losing him in the Rule V draft?

Topcat
06-19-2007, 02:43 AM
When would the REDS have to put him on the roster to avoid losing him in the Rule V draft?


Losing Gardner would be down right criminal since so many reds fans have pulled for this kid to be part of the Reds future.

Cyclone792
06-19-2007, 04:00 AM
When would the REDS have to put him on the roster to avoid losing him in the Rule V draft?

Players who signed at age 18 or younger are exempt for five years while playes who signed at age 19 or older are exempt for only four years. The date 40 man rosters had to be set used to be November 20th, but I'm not sure if that changed in the last CBA (the years exempt did change).

Gardner signed in August, 2003, at the age of 21, meaning 2007 is his fourth (and presumably last) exemption year. It looks to me that Gardner will have to be added to the 40 man roster by this November if the Reds want to protect him from the Rule 5 draft this offseason.

DoogMinAmo
06-19-2007, 04:12 AM
Players who signed at age 18 or younger are exempt for five years while playes who signed at age 19 or older are exempt for only four years. The date 40 man rosters had to be set used to be November 20th, but I'm not sure if that changed in the last CBA (the years exempt did change).

Gardner signed in August, 2003, at the age of 21, meaning 2007 is his fourth (and presumably last) exemption year. It looks to me that Gardner will have to be added to the 40 man roster by this November if the Reds want to protect him from the Rule 5 draft this offseason.

You would hope disabled list time would offset the clock, but that would be common sense. It might be a bit presumptuous to assume baseball would think that way.

Sea Ray
06-19-2007, 10:31 AM
Apitcher with those sorts of numbers in AA need to be protected on the 40 man. That shouldn't be a problem.

Benihana
06-19-2007, 11:06 AM
I think Gardner should probably garner a September call up this year if he keeps pitching at this level. That should solve the 40-man problem.

DoogMinAmo
06-19-2007, 01:23 PM
I think Gardner should probably garner a September call up this year if he keeps pitching at this level. That should solve the 40-man problem.

I am apprehensive to rush him back for two related reasons: his arm is still building strength and I would hate for him to over exhert and blow something after now making it back, and it seems he is getting by on fluff, he needs a few more mph on his heater before I would want him up.

I definitely se him as a possibility for 2008.