PDA

View Full Version : Reds scouting



Ltlabner
06-20-2007, 06:08 PM
How do you judge the quality of the Reds scouting? Whether it be scouting of the other teams, scouting for new tallent or the scouting of themselves, do you rank the efforts as well done? So-so? Horrable?

Who are the Reds scouts? What experience do they have? Are they well regarded throughout the industry? What technology do they use to help them scout (if any)?

How is the Reds scouting department organized? Does this mirror most other teams? Is there a change that could be made to improve their scouting efforts? Is there something inherrant to the orginization of the Reds scouting department preventing them from being successfull?

Basically, hope to have a discussion about Reds scouting.

RedsBaron
06-20-2007, 06:34 PM
"All scouts ever do is watch baseball games."-Marge Schott. ;)

westofyou
06-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Who are the Reds scouts? What experience do they have? Are they well regarded throughout the industry? What technology do they use to help them scout (if any)?


http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/pressbox/downloads/y2007/cin/player_dev.pdf

jojo
06-20-2007, 07:25 PM
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/pressbox/downloads/y2007/cin/player_dev.pdf

Thanks for posting that... Several months ago someone had links to the Reds press guide and I never got around to saving them before I lost track.

:beerme:

Redsland
06-21-2007, 11:23 AM
The downloadable version of the media guide is available on this page (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/fan_forum/index.jsp?c_id=cin), bottom right side.

jojo
06-21-2007, 01:06 PM
The downloadable version of the media guide is available on this page (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/fan_forum/index.jsp?c_id=cin), bottom right side.



:thumbup:

KronoRed
06-21-2007, 01:21 PM
The downloadable version of the media guide is available on this page (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/fan_forum/index.jsp?c_id=cin), bottom right side.

Thanks :D

Team Clark
06-21-2007, 01:46 PM
IMO, the Amateur scouting has done a pretty good job. Not to say the drafts have been stellar but that's not the Amateur Scouts job to pick the players. They just recommend. Naturally it helps if you recommend good players...

The pro side has its ups and downs. We've discussed the perils of the advance staff many times. The Pro Scouts that evaluate Minor League and Major League talent have shown some serious strengths and weaknesses. They have guts and a GM that is willing to make a move. That is a plus. There are a few guys who, IMO looking at players that have been brought in, scout with their heart. Never a good idea.

flyer85
06-21-2007, 02:12 PM
"All scouts ever do is watch baseball games."-Marge Schott. ;)Traditional scouting is about "watching games" and unwittingly there is honestly some wisdom in there if you want to look for it.

chicoruiz
06-21-2007, 08:42 PM
"All scouts ever do is watch baseball games."-Marge Schott.

Oddly, it could be argued that Marge did the Reds a favor here. Her attitude drove a number of veteran scouts out of the organization, and frankly, a lot of them were past their prime anyway.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-21-2007, 10:22 PM
What is a "Cross Checker"?

Yachtzee
06-21-2007, 10:23 PM
Oddly, it could be argued that Marge did the Reds a favor here. Her attitude drove a number of veteran scouts out of the organization, and frankly, a lot of them were past their prime anyway.

Unfortunately, the Reds ability to identify and develop talent has never been the same since. Change is good if it leads to a better, stronger organization, but I don't think one can say that the Reds' system was better after Marge than it was before.

BCubb2003
06-22-2007, 02:37 AM
Maybe Marge was the first sabremetrician, who believed you could judge a player without having to watch the game.

chicoruiz
06-22-2007, 08:41 AM
What is a "Cross Checker"?

A "cross-checker" is a second-opinion giver. If an area scout turns in a report on a kid that piques the front office's interest, they will make sure someone else travels out to look at the kid with a fresh pair of eyes. That's the cross-checker.

In addition, the cross-checker is valuable for being able to compare prospects in different areas of the country. Your area scout in Texas and your area scout in Pennsylvania may both think they have high school lefties worth a #2 pick. The cross checker, after seeing them both, can hopefully compare the two objectively and decide which is more valuable. He also can "scout the scouts"- decide how the area scout's reports mesh with the reality he sees.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-22-2007, 10:53 AM
A "cross-checker" is a second-opinion giver. If an area scout turns in a report on a kid that piques the front office's interest, they will make sure someone else travels out to look at the kid with a fresh pair of eyes. That's the cross-checker.

In addition, the cross-checker is valuable for being able to compare prospects in different areas of the country. Your area scout in Texas and your area scout in Pennsylvania may both think they have high school lefties worth a #2 pick. The cross checker, after seeing them both, can hopefully compare the two objectively and decide which is more valuable. He also can "scout the scouts"- decide how the area scout's reports mesh with the reality he sees.


Thanks, chico.