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red-in-la
06-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Anybody else watching this?

Makes me realize for the first time what JR meant to Seattle......WOW!

Wheelhouse
06-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Yep. Stunning.

Joseph
06-22-2007, 10:29 PM
Very nice indeed. Was he loved that much in 'nati after year one? Tough to say it was even close.

Virginia Beach Reds
06-22-2007, 10:33 PM
I wonder if he wishes he never threw the ultimatum out on the table? Can't argue with his bad luck, could have also happened in Seattle. I wonder if he was as scrutinized as he has been in Cinti compared to Seattle?

HumnHilghtFreel
06-22-2007, 10:55 PM
I rushed home, but I missed the start of the game:thumbdown... I take it he got a pretty warm welcome from the applause he got in his 2nd AB though.

Chip R
06-22-2007, 11:07 PM
I rushed home, but I missed the start of the game:thumbdown... I take it he got a pretty warm welcome from the applause he got in his 2nd AB though.


I'm sure you'll be able to catch the pre-game ceremonies someway. Very well done by the M's. It appears that absence does make the heart grow fonder.

top6
06-23-2007, 12:11 AM
Well, I have to be honest I found the whole thing disturbing. I turned on the TV at 9:50 or so, hoping to catch pregame and JR's first at bat - which I assumed would be accompanied by a long standing ovation. Instead, I see Griffey giving a speech - just minutes before the game is supposed to start. That speech included what appeared to be a pep talk to the current Mariners - in other words, THE TEAM THE REDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT. I really didn't like it at all; I guess I just thought he would bat and they would clap and it would be cool. It just seems to be me like he will have plenty of chances to give speeches after he retires, and doing so right before a game just sort of rubbed me the wrong way.

I like Jr., but that sort of turned me off. I know the Reds' season is over, but I still want them to win, and more importantly I want them to want to win - and part of that is not giving encouragement to the other team right before a game.

I'm not a Jr. basher, and I like him, but I didn't think this was handled well. Anyone else fee the same way?

M2
06-23-2007, 12:11 AM
I wonder if he wishes he never threw the ultimatum out on the table? Can't argue with his bad luck, could have also happened in Seattle. I wonder if he was as scrutinized as he has been in Cinti compared to Seattle?

I imagine if Jr. could go back in time and talk to his younger self he'd tell himself never to leave Seattle.

919191
06-23-2007, 01:24 AM
I see Griffey giving a speech - just minutes before the game is supposed to start. That speech included what appeared to be a pep talk to the current Mariners - in other words, THE TEAM THE REDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT. I really didn't like it at all; I guess I just thought he would bat and they would clap and it would be cool. It just seems to be me like he will have plenty of chances to give speeches after he retires, and doing so right before a game just sort of rubbed me the wrong way.




They always say Griffey isn't a vocal leader. I guess this pep talk to the Mariners pretty much flopped, seeing the final score.;)

WVPacman
06-23-2007, 01:42 AM
From what I seen tonight I really think Jr should go back to Seattle b/c those fans love him and tonight thats the happest that I have seen Jr in a long long time.I mean he had a smile on his face the whole cermony and game!!! I have never seen him that happy in Cincy and I sure hav'nt seen our fans do what the M's fans done tonight.

I feel he needs to go back to Seattle to play out the rest of his career.He started there so why not end it there.Griffey would never come out and say he wanted to go back to Seattle BUT he does'nt have to come out and say it b/c his face and smile said it for him tonight.

HumnHilghtFreel
06-23-2007, 01:51 AM
I'm sure you'll be able to catch the pre-game ceremonies someway.

http://media.putfile.com/Ken-Griffey-Jr-Returns-to-Seattle

In case anyone else missed it.

MartyFan
06-23-2007, 04:30 AM
I just watched it on MLB.com Highlights...There is no doubt in my mind that Junior will go into the HOF as a Mariner...as he should. This town and franchise have cheated him and treated him so poorly. It honestly broke my heart to see the appreciation that the fans have for him there.

Ya know, I could see Junior asking for a trade to finish his career there.

dougdirt
06-23-2007, 04:57 AM
http://media.putfile.com/Ken-Griffey-Jr-Returns-to-Seattle

In case anyone else missed it.

thank you for that link! :thumbup:

GAC
06-23-2007, 05:20 AM
I just watched it on MLB.com Highlights...There is no doubt in my mind that Junior will go into the HOF as a Mariner...as he should. This town and franchise have cheated him and treated him so poorly. It honestly broke my heart to see the appreciation that the fans have for him there.

Ya know, I could see Junior asking for a trade to finish his career there.

He was never our savior. :lol:

Just think - if it wasn't for the Jr trade, which brought so many M fans over to the then Cincy Talk forum, inwhich they caused a lot of trouble, Redszone may have never came into existence. ;)

But the guy put the Mariners on the map, so to speak. I can fully understand the love and appreciation that Seattle has for him. He spent 11 years (his best years) with them. I think anytime a team (city) loses a player the calibre of a Griffey, and one that is well loved - which is why Pittsburgh doesn't miss Bonds - they will always hold a place in their hearts for that player. I don't care what team it is either.

It may have been somewhat different if Jr had stayed in the AL where he would have made frequent returns to Seattle. But moving over to the NL like he did made this return somewhat special to the M fans.

I wonder how they feel whenever ARod comes to Seattle?

I think when it comes to the Cincy fan, it has been more [bfrustration[/b] (not hatred or resentment) over Jr's many injuries. And I don't think anyone was anymore frustrated then Jr himself. The guy got hurt playing hard and giving his all. I still remember his first injury, as he was was charging around 3B trying to score.

But I am glad that I have had many opportunities (as well as my kids) to see one of the greatest ballplayers ever to step on the field.

And I agree Marty - he should go into the HOF as a Mariner IMO.

GAC
06-23-2007, 05:40 AM
Well, I have to be honest I found the whole thing disturbing. I turned on the TV at 9:50 or so, hoping to catch pregame and JR's first at bat - which I assumed would be accompanied by a long standing ovation. Instead, I see Griffey giving a speech - just minutes before the game is supposed to start. That speech included what appeared to be a pep talk to the current Mariners - in other words, THE TEAM THE REDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT. I really didn't like it at all; I guess I just thought he would bat and they would clap and it would be cool. It just seems to be me like he will have plenty of chances to give speeches after he retires, and doing so right before a game just sort of rubbed me the wrong way.

I like Jr., but that sort of turned me off. I know the Reds' season is over, but I still want them to win, and more importantly I want them to want to win - and part of that is not giving encouragement to the other team right before a game.

I'm not a Jr. basher, and I like him, but I didn't think this was handled well. Anyone else fee the same way?

Nope. He is the first Mariner "superstar". He is to Seattle, what Rose is to Cincy - a favorite son.

And Jr had nothing to do with the pre-game ceremony setup. That was all the M's front office. I'm sure, him being a somewhat private person, he would have liked to have not had such pomp and circumstance surrounding his return. But I think he also understood that it was inevitable, being how much he meant to the fans/city of Seattle for 11 years.

This guy was there "god".

Just having a standing ovation when his first A/B came would not have been enough. The fans of Seattle, with Jr now playing in the NL, wouldn't have settled for anything less IMO.

dougdirt
06-23-2007, 05:58 AM
Well, I have to be honest I found the whole thing disturbing. I turned on the TV at 9:50 or so, hoping to catch pregame and JR's first at bat - which I assumed would be accompanied by a long standing ovation. Instead, I see Griffey giving a speech - just minutes before the game is supposed to start. That speech included what appeared to be a pep talk to the current Mariners - in other words, THE TEAM THE REDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT. I really didn't like it at all; I guess I just thought he would bat and they would clap and it would be cool. It just seems to be me like he will have plenty of chances to give speeches after he retires, and doing so right before a game just sort of rubbed me the wrong way.

I like Jr., but that sort of turned me off. I know the Reds' season is over, but I still want them to win, and more importantly I want them to want to win - and part of that is not giving encouragement to the other team right before a game.

I'm not a Jr. basher, and I like him, but I didn't think this was handled well. Anyone else fee the same way?

I think you were the only one.

RedsBaron
06-23-2007, 06:26 AM
http://media.putfile.com/Ken-Griffey-Jr-Returns-to-Seattle

In case anyone else missed it.

Thank you for that link.
Wow. Seattle really showed some class.
Junior wears a Mariner cap when he goes into the HOF.
Wow.

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 06:57 AM
He was never our savior. :lol:

Just think - if it wasn't for the Jr trade, which brought so many M fans over to the then Cincy Talk forum, inwhich they caused a lot of trouble, Redszone may have never came into existence. ;)

But the guy put the Mariners on the map, so to speak. I can fully understand the love and appreciation that Seattle has for him. He spent 11 years (his best years) with them. I think anytime a team (city) loses a player the calibre of a Griffey, and one that is well loved - which is why Pittsburgh doesn't miss Bonds - they will always hold a place in their hearts for that player. I don't care what team it is either.

It may have been somewhat different if Jr had stayed in the AL where he would have made frequent returns to Seattle. But moving over to the NL like he did made this return somewhat special to the M fans.

I wonder how they feel whenever ARod comes to Seattle?

I think when it comes to the Cincy fan, it has been more [bfrustration[/b] (not hatred or resentment) over Jr's many injuries. And I don't think anyone was anymore frustrated then Jr himself. The guy got hurt playing hard and giving his all. I still remember his first injury, as he was was charging around 3B trying to score.

But I am glad that I have had many opportunities (as well as my kids) to see one of the greatest ballplayers ever to step on the field.

And I agree Marty - he should go into the HOF as a Mariner IMO.Well, shoot GAC - I should have read this before going ballastic on WV on the game thread...:bang: You said it much better than me...:beerme: Here's my take:


I saw the reception in Seattle and wondered what a former co-worker (deceased) would have thought about it... He passed away in 2002 but one day in March 2000 he wore a Seahawks jacket into work. I asked him where he got that and he told me he lived in Seattle for 10 years. Then I asked him about what he thought about Junior coming to the Reds. He asked me what I thought. Told him that I was pretty neutral - I knew who he was, saw the web-gems but other than that not much-not much of a American League fan. So I asked again... he told me that Junior was the most incredible player that he ever saw play the game and he was the only reason that you went to a ballgame in Seattle. In the next two years before his death he would remind me that because of the injuries you were not seeing the real Junior - that once healthy he'll blow you away. After his death I would get a glimpse of what Junior was in Seattle and think of Pat looking down from the heavens and smiling.

Mariner fans saw a young Junior (the "Kid")... sort of like Elvis fans seeing him so young and a force to be reckoned with. Junior also left on pretty good terms and his reasons were legit for leaving the NW (ST close to family, coming home, etc.) - and because of being in the NL and changed interleague schedules this is his first trip back. There might also be a symphatic (sp?) side to this with all his injuries and age that the Seattle fans feel. What about the fact that more fans (not just Seattle fans) appreciate Junior more because of the steriod scandals marring other players. Another factor would be because of his injuries and loss production he hasn't been all that successfull in Cincinnati...Have they treated A-Rod and Johnson well when they have come back? Junior will go into the HOF as a Mariner (as it should be).

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 06:59 AM
Just think - if it wasn't for the Jr trade, which brought so many M fans over to the then Cincy Talk forum, inwhich they caused a lot of trouble, Redszone may have never came into existence. So true! I wonder if Gally, tick-tock and KayJay were in attendance last night???:devil: (Actually KayJay wasn't too bad)...

GAC
06-23-2007, 08:15 AM
I saw the reception in Seattle and wondered what a former co-worker (deceased) would have thought about it... He passed away in 2002 but one day in March 2000 he wore a Seahawks jacket into work. I asked him where he got that and he told me he lived in Seattle for 10 years. Then I asked him about what he thought about Junior coming to the Reds. He asked me what I thought. Told him that I was pretty neutral - I knew who he was, saw the web-gems but other than that not much-not much of a American League fan. So I asked again... he told me that Junior was the most incredible player that he ever saw play the game and he was the only reason that you went to a ballgame in Seattle. In the next two years before his death he would remind me that because of the injuries you were not seeing the real Junior - that once healthy he'll blow you away. After his death I would get a glimpse of what Junior was in Seattle and think of Pat looking down from the heavens and smiling.

Mariner fans saw a young Junior (the "Kid")... sort of like Elvis fans seeing him so young and a force to be reckoned with.

We got the Elvis in Vegas version. :lol:

But what you're saying is absolutely correct. I'm not going to begrudge any Seattle fan for wanting to show their love and appreciation for a guy that brought so much to Seattle.

I grew up a Rose fan since the day he stepped onto the baseball field. Regardless of his personal trials/problems, I look forward to the day (and I'll be there) when the Reds can have him on that field and fans can show their appreciation to Pete Rose the ballplayer, not the imperfect human.

GAC
06-23-2007, 08:17 AM
So true! I wonder if Gally, tick-tock and KayJay were in attendance last night???:devil: (Actually KayJay wasn't too bad)...

kapaloosa!

I still remember the text picture that either rem or rfs put up referencing a female body part. Boy did she get upset! :lol:

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 08:29 AM
kapaloosa!

I still remember the text picture that either rem or rfs put up referencing a female body part. Boy did she get upset! :lol:I thought she used that as her avatar at one point?

GAC
06-23-2007, 08:37 AM
I thought she used that as her avatar at one point?

We're obviously not thinking of the same image. :lol:

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 08:37 AM
kapaloosa!

I still remember the text picture that either rem or rfs put up referencing a female body part. Boy did she get upset! :lol:This is what happens when you type "kapaloosa" into Google...:devil:


There once was an old horse named Kap
who talked just to hear her lips flap
when her hero left town
she proclaimed with a frown
"to Cincy I must take my crap"

She enlisted her favorite pally
a girly man we know as Gally
You could hear them both say
"how did Griff do today"
as they tried to pick fights in the alley

Now she comes here a wolf in sheep's clothing
brings for Junior her hate and her loathing
but she messed with a man
who can kick her big can
our Red Roser just gave her a hosing.

Now the streets of our Redszone are free
for sick poets like TC and me
and if the old nag don't like it
she can pack up and hike it
back to Seattle, where her "enlightened approach" is much more appreciated....

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 09:36 AM
We're obviously not thinking of the same image. :lol:OBVIOUSLY... :laugh: She had a pen drawing of her (with a rather large rear) as an avatar once. It was done in the same style as TeamCasey's avatar as an angel...


http://www.redszone.com/forums/image.php?u=35&dateline=1134515732

TeamCasey
06-23-2007, 09:41 AM
:D I can't beleive you found that!

His homecoming was spectacular. He did say how much he missed Seattle in his speech. A wonderful reception for him.

How about that game!? I nodded off when it was 9-1. The west coast games kill me. I was shocked to see 16-1 this morning.

GAC
06-23-2007, 11:04 AM
This is what happens when you type "kapaloosa" into Google...:devil:

Oh man! I can't believe when you put that in Google, that is what comes up.

Good ol' rfs62! :evil:

KittyDuran
06-23-2007, 11:51 AM
OBVIOUSLY... :laugh: She had a pen drawing of her (with a rather large rear) as an avatar once. It was done in the same style as TeamCasey's avatar as an angel...


http://www.redszone.com/forums/image.php?u=35&dateline=1134515732OK... I found an old thread in the archives that said rem made the sketch. She is listed in RedsZone as Blondini and last posted in December 2006 (she joined in 4/00).

letsgojunior
06-23-2007, 11:53 AM
What a great ceremony. Brought tears to my eyes.

VR
06-23-2007, 12:23 PM
What a great ceremony. Brought tears to my eyes.

It's was unreal in person.

The video tribute was just unreal...I don't think they've ever had the volume that loud. The crowd was standing and cheering through it all, before Griff even showed up.