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AmarilloRed
07-07-2007, 03:18 PM
It is possible he could play at 2 positions. He is a natural first baseman, and he could play there. It is also possible he could be placed in left field in case Dunn is traded. I am sure the Reds will be tempted to replace Dunn's salary with Votto's and place him in left. We could get prospects coming back in the Dunn trade, and Votto might have similar production. It would be an awful lot to ask of Votto to replace Adam Dunn's power and rbis, but it could definitely be an option if they get a good enough trade offer. He has played some LF at AAA, and I am sure the Reds are thinking about both options.

Degenerate39
07-07-2007, 03:26 PM
Keep him at first base. Put Freel in left, Hamilton in center, Griffey in right or some other combo like that. Try to trade Hatte away. I wouldn't put Votto in the outfield though.

AmarilloRed
07-07-2007, 03:37 PM
Would anyone have any stats on his defense in AAA. I am sure if he is a better defensive outfielder than Dunn(not very hard), putting him in left will be awfully tempting.

Degenerate39
07-07-2007, 03:38 PM
Would anyone have any stats on his defense in AAA. I am sure if he is a better defensive outfielder than Dunn(not very hard), putting him in left will be awfully tempting.

He hasn't played as many games in left field as Dunn has so that's not really fair.

nate
07-07-2007, 03:40 PM
Keep him at first base. Put Freel in left, Hamilton in center, Griffey in right or some other combo like that. Try to trade Hatte away. I wouldn't put Votto in the outfield though.

If Dunn is traded (I hope he's not), that's what I'd do. Maybe even platoon the great Norris Hopper out there with Ace Freely.

Chi-Town Red
07-07-2007, 03:41 PM
Firstbase unless Dunn is traded...no brainer

Doro
07-07-2007, 04:04 PM
Like usual we are loaded in the outfield. Firstbase is where he should stay for 1. hes a firstbaseman and 2. Our current 1Bs are older

Newport Red
07-07-2007, 06:19 PM
Number 1 - Anywhere that maximizes his plate appearances.
Number 2 - First base.
Number 3 - All of the above.

Degenerate39
07-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Number 1 - Anywhere that maximizes his plate appearances.
Number 2 - First base.
Number 3 - All of the above.

Number 1- So should he be a catcher?

AmarilloRed
07-08-2007, 01:16 AM
I personally would like to see him play first base, as it is his natural position. I only threw out left field because there is a considerable possibility Adam Dunn may be traded. He may have to be pressed into service in left field.

uoduck1017
07-08-2007, 01:23 AM
It all depends on who is traded. If Dunn and Hatteberg are traded, he might play a little first base and left field. (Not at the same time).

neelm
07-08-2007, 01:45 AM
Firstbase

neelm
07-08-2007, 01:45 AM
Number 1- So should he be a catcher?

He was drafted as a catcher...

paintmered
07-08-2007, 09:58 AM
I am sure if he is a better defensive outfielder than Dunn(not very hard), putting him in left will be awfully tempting.

From what I hear, he's worse in left than Dunn. But he just recently began playing out there.

I'd prefer they keep him at first base, personally. Hatteberg and Conine are not long-term solutions for that position.

Degenerate39
07-08-2007, 02:11 PM
He was drafted as a catcher...

That's not my point

Eric_Davis
07-08-2007, 07:36 PM
It is also possible he could be placed in left field in case Dunn is traded.


I understand that when it comes to playing defense, there's nothing "natural" for him. You play him where he'll do the least amount of damage, and apparently, that's first base.

reds44
07-08-2007, 11:35 PM
From the little I've seen Votto play LF, he hasn't made a fool out of himself which puts him ahead of Dunn. That's not saying much though. Ideally he comes up and plays 1B. However, I call him whenever Hatteberg or Dunn is traded. The most important thing is to get him his ABs. In the long run, he is a first baseman.

AdamDunn
07-08-2007, 11:47 PM
From what I hear, he's worse in left than Dunn. But he just recently began playing out there.

I'd prefer they keep him at first base, personally. Hatteberg and Conine are not long-term solutions for that position.

Where did you hear he's worse in left than Dunn? I find that hard to believe because I thought he was athletic and being worst than Dunn is pretty hard.

I'd put him at first base because I hear that he makes some pretty good plays there. I don't remember where I saw this, but supposedly some managers think he is a VERY GOOD first baseman while others thing he's below average. I think it might be because he's athletic enough to play first, but maybe not refined enough. IDK.

dougdirt
07-08-2007, 11:58 PM
Where did you hear he's worse in left than Dunn? I find that hard to believe because I thought he was athletic and being worst than Dunn is pretty hard.

I'd put him at first base because I hear that he makes some pretty good plays there. I don't remember where I saw this, but supposedly some managers think he is a VERY GOOD first baseman while others thing he's below average. I think it might be because he's athletic enough to play first, but maybe not refined enough. IDK.

Votto is pretty bad in left. With that said, it probably has a whole lot to do with the fact that he has played 12 games there in his entire career and otherwise has spent his entire life on the infield. Its tough to go from fielding balls at first to fielding balls in the outfield that slice away from you or take completely different trajectories off the bat.

Given some time, I would bet he could be passable in left, but right now he is quite lost at times out there.

KronoRed
07-09-2007, 12:54 AM
You play him at 1st, moving him to keep a couple of 37+ year olds in the job would be short sighted and foolish

AmarilloRed
07-09-2007, 01:02 AM
You play him at 1st, moving him to keep a couple of 37+ year olds in the job would be short sighted and foolish

It would not be the first time the Reds did something that was short-sighted and foolish. It all depends on whether we trade Dunn, and whether we get a left field prospect in the trade.

neelm
07-09-2007, 02:49 AM
That's not my point

I know. I was just throwing that out there.

mth123
07-09-2007, 05:04 AM
It would not be the first time the Reds did something that was short-sighted and foolish. It all depends on whether we trade Dunn, and whether we get a left field prospect in the trade.

I could easily see this team trading Dunn for pitchers, putting Votto in LF and invoking Hatte's option for $1.85 Million for 2008. Freel or Hopper would probably play against LH and maybe Votto moves in to 1B on those days. I don't think its the right plan, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least. Hatte would still be a relative bargain at $1.85 Million and this team, new owner and all, still seems cheap to me.

If they spend all the money for the right combination of arms it could work I suppose.

BucSappy
07-11-2007, 07:29 PM
Hatteberg WILL be traded and Votto will start at first. If we don't trade Hatteberg I say lets orgainze a riot around GAB...I say this because he could bring in a very good SS prospect that we need desperately.

AmarilloRed
07-11-2007, 10:17 PM
I believe one of the first base reserves will be traded-I just don't know which one. Hatteberg would give us more trade value though.

WebScorpion
07-12-2007, 02:51 PM
Here's my thought. Hatte and one of our Hot Minor League pitchers, say Cueto or Watson to the Braves for Jarrod Saltalamacchia. :) Votto comes up to play 1st for good. Next year's mid-season trade is Dunn for pitching and/or a SS prospect with old man Griffey moving (again!?!) to left and young Jay Bruce Wayne (he's Batman not Superman) comes up to play Right Field forever. So by the end of next season our Batting order is something like this:

CF Josh 'Roy Hobbs' Hamilton
2B Brandon Phillips
LF Ken Griffey, Jr.
RF Jay Bruce
C Jarrod 'Salty' Saltalamacchia
1B Joey Votto
3B Edwin Encarnacion
SS Alex Gonzalez
Pitcher

:beerme:

I know, I'm dreaming...but it's a good dream. ;)