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reds44
07-11-2007, 01:07 AM
How do you leave one of THE best players in baseball on the bench and let Rowand hit for himself in the 9th? Bases loaded, down by 1, two outs, you have to use Pujols there.

Makes no sense.

KGJR30
07-11-2007, 01:15 AM
Could be selfish reasoning. He could have been concerned about putting one of his guys out there to get hurt. It's hard to tell what was going through his head.

jlb1705
07-11-2007, 01:34 AM
Maybe he was drunk.

Maybe he should hold Pujols out of the first Cards game after the break. He could get hurt then, too.:rolleyes:

wojo1025
07-11-2007, 02:08 AM
"It's the All-Star game. He can do what he wants," Pujols said Tuesday night. "He does whatever he wants. If I wasn't expecting to play, I wouldn't have come up here"

"If he wants to get upset, he can get upset," La Russa said. "Whatever he wants to do, he can do. It's America. That wasn't the most important thing tonight."


Ummm...tension in St. Louis maybe? LaRussa feeling he's on the way out so he just doesn't care? What in the world is going on here? Why would they take this to the media that quick? Somethings fishy here.

reds44
07-11-2007, 02:19 AM
"It's the All-Star game. He can do what he wants," Pujols said Tuesday night. "He does whatever he wants. If I wasn't expecting to play, I wouldn't have come up here"

"If he wants to get upset, he can get upset," La Russa said. "Whatever he wants to do, he can do. It's America. That wasn't the most important thing tonight."


Ummm...tension in St. Louis maybe? LaRussa feeling he's on the way out so he just doesn't care? What in the world is going on here? Why would they take this to the media that quick? Somethings fishy here.
WOAH

Something is off.

TheOnlyRedsFan
07-11-2007, 08:34 AM
Did anyone else XD @ Leyland when he was saying that he had interest in using Putz for 6 or 7 innings since the Tigers play the Mariners after the break?
i thought that was pretty funny

rotnoid
07-11-2007, 09:08 AM
My first reaction was that he was playing for extras and didn't want to stick Pujols in the OF defensively in the 10th, but then I realized Pujols has played OF before and LaRussa was talking him up earlier in the game as a guy he'd put out there any where (even SS, which kind of made me chuckle a little).

JLB5
07-11-2007, 10:15 AM
I don't buy the playing for extras argument one bit. Two outs in the 9th with the bases juiced? It's win or go home at that point, other than an infield hit you are likely to plate 2. Rowand already had an AB, so I don't see why he didn't get Phat Albert in there. I thought it was pretty interesting that he was the only Redbird that even made the team. I know they are playing poorly, but usually the manager rewards at least a couple of his guys for the WS ring they won him the year prior. Maybe Tony really is on his way out of St. Louie.

rotnoid
07-11-2007, 10:22 AM
I don't buy the playing for extras argument one bit. Two outs in the 9th with the bases juiced? It's win or go home at that point, other than an infield hit you are likely to plate 2. Rowand already had an AB, so I don't see why he didn't get Phat Albert in there. I thought it was pretty interesting that he was the only Redbird that even made the team. I know they are playing poorly, but usually the manager rewards at least a couple of his guys for the WS ring they won him the year prior. Maybe Tony really is on his way out of St. Louie.

I'm not defending him, I'm just trying to find a logical explanation. Maybe he didn't think Lee could score from second off Crawford, Sizemore, or Rios. I don't know. I'm not a LaRussa fan, never have been. He micromanages too much, but I can't see the sense in ticking off your team's best player in July.

Orenda
07-11-2007, 10:33 AM
He micromanages too much, but I can't see the sense in ticking off your team's best player in July.

I might guess that they both were/are already ticked, hence they are not being sensitive and playing nice. Or it means nothing and they have a good working relationship.

JLB5
07-11-2007, 11:45 AM
I'm not defending him, I'm just trying to find a logical explanation. Maybe he didn't think Lee could score from second off Crawford, Sizemore, or Rios. I don't know. I'm not a LaRussa fan, never have been. He micromanages too much, but I can't see the sense in ticking off your team's best player in July.

Oh no, I wasn't arguing with you. I'm just saying if that was LaRussa's rationale it was a pretty poor one. I think he'd go for the win right there if he really believes in "this one counts." I didn't see the interviews, so sometimes things get lost in translation and this could like most things be much ado about nothing and the media creating a story. It just seems to fit the general theme of LaRussa having one foot out the door.

Screwball
07-11-2007, 12:22 PM
Seems to me LaRussa fell asleep behind the wheel on this one.

JLB5
07-11-2007, 12:31 PM
Seems to me LaRussa fell asleep behind the wheel on this one.

:bowrofl:

bounty37h
07-11-2007, 12:33 PM
Did anyone else XD @ Leyland when he was saying that he had interest in using Putz for 6 or 7 innings since the Tigers play the Mariners after the break?
i thought that was pretty funny

I dont know if I did or not, what is xd?

Blitz Dorsey
07-11-2007, 12:48 PM
Tony LaRussa is a joke and I'm glad this happened to him. What kind of manager calls out a guy like Aaron Harang? Yeah, that noted headhunter Aaron Harang. I'm glad LaRussa stepped in and said something. Harang needed to be stopped before he killed someone.

Hopefully this the final nail for LaRussa in St. Louis. I can't imagine he was stoopid enough (drunk enough?) to not hit Pujols in that situation.

But are we sure Albert got his HGH before the game in time? Maybe that was the hang-up. And you know none of LaRussa's players have ever been roidheads.

HokieRed
07-11-2007, 09:17 PM
LaRussa's explanation doesn't wash. Obviously the two are at war. LaRussa deprived Pujols basically of a career-making, maybe Hall-of-fame making at-bat and also lessened the NL's slim chance to win the game and the home field in the series. May very well mean LaRussa knows he's not staying in StL. Maybe there is some truth in the Cinti. rumors after all.

Chi-Town Red
07-11-2007, 09:36 PM
LaRussa's explanation doesn't wash. Obviously the two are at war. LaRussa deprived Pujols basically of a career-making, maybe Hall-of-fame making at-bat and also lessened the NL's slim chance to win the game and the home field in the series. May very well mean LaRussa knows he's not staying in StL. Maybe there is some truth in the Cinti. rumors after all.funny as that seems...i thought the same thing about the Reds rumor:eek:

757690
07-11-2007, 11:59 PM
LaRussa did what every manager of an All-Star game did when I was growing up. He held back a player or two in case it went to extras.
Managers stopped doing that in the late 80's and continued until the tie travisty in 2002.
You can't fault LaRussa for holding back a player. You can fault him for holding back Pujols. The player almost always was a catcher or middle infielder, and not a consistant MVP candidate. Also, when the game was on the line, managers usually would use them if needed.

jnwohio
07-12-2007, 01:02 AM
Well now maybe it being the AllStar game changes things but in the regular season you don't stay around long as a manager if you manage to set up for those extra innings when you are a run down in the 9th.

keeganbrick
07-12-2007, 01:27 AM
I understand he was holding him for extras but there were 2 outs and the bases loaded and the NL was down by 1 run. Was Pujols seriously going to get an infield hit or something crazy? If Pujols gets a hit the game is over if he doesnt the game is over.

Screwball
07-12-2007, 10:18 AM
Was Pujols seriously going to get an infield hit or something crazy?

He could've walked.

Orenda
07-12-2007, 02:15 PM
Pujols says things are fine between him and Tony. Now I can get some sleep.

lo ryder
07-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Tony really moved up my ladder considering I had a small investment in this game. (Just so this time it meant something)

TC81190
07-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Apparently Pujols played 2B in an all star game before. :eek:

DTCromer
07-13-2007, 02:52 PM
Do I need to remind everyone that this is an All Star Game? AN ALL STAR GAME! Let's get over it people!

This reminds me of the time the AS Game ended in a tie and everyone made it into a big deal. . .which it never should've been. Probably the worst overreaction from fans I've seen in my lifetime.

Screwball
07-13-2007, 03:42 PM
Do I need to remind everyone that this is an All Star Game? AN ALL STAR GAME! Let's get over it people!

This reminds me of the time the AS Game ended in a tie and everyone made it into a big deal. . .which it never should've been. Probably the worst overreaction from fans I've seen in my lifetime.

Oh my, you must not have heard. THIS TIME IT COUNTS!!! :evil:

Jr's Boy
07-13-2007, 07:08 PM
Well the folks in The Lou aren't to happy with Larussa.The fans deserve to see the best player's in the all star game,especially in a crucial situation.Who would you rather have seen,KRod vs.Rowand,or KRod vs. Pujols.But Larussa is not thinking about the fan's,and he shown that.