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BoydsOfSummer
07-17-2007, 10:50 PM
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Biographical Data

Player Name: Devin Mesoraco
Position: Catcher
School: Punxsutawney HS, Pa.
School Type: High School
Academic Class: Senior
Birthdate: 06/19/88
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 195 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Report Date(s): 04/23/07
Game(s): Bald Eagle HS
Scouting Video:

Focus Area

Comments
Hitting Ability: Mesoraco has a ton of hitting ability, using a little leg kick in his approach, and doesn't swing at bad pitches.
Power: Mesoraco has plus power. Right now, it's more pull power, but eventually he'll develop power to all fields.
Running Speed: He's a fringy-average runner, which is pretty good for a catcher.
Arm Strength: He has a plus arm and isn't afraid to use it in pick-off attempts.
Arm Accuracy: His throws are always right on the money.
Fielding: Mesoraco has plus hands behind the plate.
Range: A terrific athlete, Mesoraco is outstanding at blocking balls in the dirt.
Baseball Instincts: Off the charts. He's got great makeup, he's very aggressive and he's a natural leader behind the plate.
Physical Description: Mesoraco is a strong backstop with a body type that might remind some of a Joe Girardi or Ivan Rodriguez.
Medical Update: Mesoraco missed much of 2006 following Tommy John surgery, but now is completely healthy and clearly is having no problems with his throwing.
Strengths: He's a complete package. He can hit with power and he can play defense with a strong arm and soft hands.
Weaknesses: He tends to get out on his front foot on his swing from time to time.
Summary: Mesoraco has answered any questions about his arm following Tommy John surgery a year ago and is on the rise among catching prospects.
He's a complete catching package, with hitting ability, power, good hands, a plus arm and outstanding leadership ability.



From Brewerfan.net (http://brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=760&draftId=5)


High energy player with great, natural leadership skills. Mesoraco is an amazing natural athlete that was well known entering the year, but wasn't thought of as anything near a first-round pick. He had Tommy John surgery the fall of his junior year which led to a so-so year serving as his team's DH. Now fully healthy, he exploded this spring, with a huge season at the plate while showing off his big arm from behind it. He has above average tools across the board, and runs extremely well for a catcher. He has exciting power potential, and hits the ball to the gaps. He is athletic enough that he may be able to handle a move to second base a la Craig Biggio, but his arm is such a dynamic tool that it may be wasted there. He has committed to Virginia, where he was at first thought to be somewhat of a difficult sign, but now that he's a lock for the first round college won't be an option.

AmarilloRed
07-17-2007, 11:35 PM
Let's bring him to the majors tomorrow!Didn't Dave Winfield go straight to the majors. I am only half-joking.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

mbgrayson
07-18-2007, 09:00 AM
HERE (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Devin%2520Mesoraco&pos=C&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=519023) is a link to Devin Mesoraco's minor league stats.

Degenerate39
07-18-2007, 01:53 PM
Has anyone seen this guy play? If so how has he been looking? I'm really curious about this kid.

Eric_Davis
07-18-2007, 06:08 PM
He's struggling so far.

Five years from now when he's still in the minors, we can see how he's doing. Many of us will be dead by the time he ever reaches the Majors.

BoydsOfSummer
07-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Devin went 1-3 today.

He's hitting .256/.373/.279 on the year. One extra base hit, a double.







GCL Reds
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Reed CF 4 2 2 1 0 0 2 1 0 .282
Feiner 2B 4 1 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .265
Soto SS 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .357
Scott 1B 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 .326
Mesoraco DH 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .261
Brown LF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
Wideman C 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .258
Sanchez a- PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .217
Pullen 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 .186
Cech b- PH 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 .385
Oliveras RF 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .157
Rodriguez, E P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Rice P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Gonzalez, A P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Beal P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Reed (2, Amaro), Cech (2, Paulino).
TB: Reed 3; Feiner 2; Soto; Mesoraco; Cech 2; Oliveras.
RBI: Reed 2 (7), Scott (4).
2-out RBI: Reed.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Mesoraco.
GIDP: Soto; Scott; Wideman.
Team LOB: 6.

BASERUNNING
SB: Feiner 2 (3, 2nd base off Krebs/Garcia, J, 2nd base off Vasquez/Garcia, J), Reed (7, 3rd base off Vasquez/Garcia, J).

FIELDING
E: Rodriguez, E (1, throw), Soto 2 (9, throw, fielding), Wideman (2, pickoff).
Pickoffs: Rodriguez, E (Latimore at 1st base), Gonzalez, A (Bomback at 1st base).

a-Struck out for Wideman in the 9th. b-Doubled for Pullen in the 9th.
GCL Pirates
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Fields 2B 4 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
Rosero LF 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .263
Latimore CF 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 .266
Fitzpatrick 1B 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .257
Bomback 3B 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .232
Peley DH 2 1 1 0 0 1 2 1 0 .316
Canal RF 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 .208
Garcia, J C 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .226
Rice SS 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .100
Amaro P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Krebs P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Vasquez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Paulino P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Fitzpatrick (5, Rice).
HR: Peley (1, 4th inning off Rodriguez, E, 0 on, 1 out).
TB: Fields 3; Rosero; Latimore; Fitzpatrick 2; Bomback; Peley 4; Canal.
RBI: Rosero (6), Latimore 2 (10), Peley 2 (8).
2-out RBI: Latimore.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Fitzpatrick; Latimore; Garcia, J 2.
S: Rosero.
SF: Peley.
Team LOB: 5.

BASERUNNING
SB: Rosero (4, 2nd base off Rice/Wideman).
CS: Canal (2, 2nd base by Rodriguez, E/Wideman), Bomback (3, 2nd base by Gonzalez, A/Wideman), Fields (2, 3rd base by Rice/Wideman).
PO: Latimore (1st base by Rodriguez, E), Bomback (1st base by Gonzalez, A).

FIELDING
E: Bomback (3, throw).
DP: 3 (Rice-Fields-Fitzpatrick, Rice-Fitzpatrick, Amaro-Rice-Fitzpatrick).



GCL Reds
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Rodriguez, E (L, 1-1) 4.0 4 4 1 0 2 1 1.65
Rice 2.2 5 2 2 0 2 0 3.66
Gonzalez, A 0.2 0 0 0 2 1 0 11.25
Beal 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.00

GCL Pirates
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Amaro (W, 1-0) 5.1 6 2 2 1 0 0 3.79
Krebs (H, 1) 1.2 0 0 0 2 0 0 1.35
Vasquez 0.2 0 2 2 3 1 0 5.74
Paulino (S, 1) 1.1 2 1 1 0 1 0 5.40



WP: Rice, Beal, Vasquez.
HBP: Rice (by Rodriguez, E), Rosero (by Rice).
Ground outs-fly outs: Rodriguez, E 4-4, Rice 3-2, Gonzalez, A 0-0, Beal 1-0, Amaro 13-3, Krebs 1-4, Vasquez 1-0, Paulino 1-2.
Batters faced: Rodriguez, E 17, Rice 13, Gonzalez, A 3, Beal 2, Amaro 20, Krebs 7, Vasquez 5, Paulino 6.
Inherited runners-scored: Gonzalez, A 1-0, Beal 1-0, Krebs 1-0, Paulino 1-0.
Umpires: HP: Ryan Karle. 1B: Joe Bora. 2B: . 3B: .
Weather: 87 degrees, sunny.
Wind: 9 mph, L to R.
T: 2:35

Chi-Town Red
07-18-2007, 09:05 PM
OPS .652 after 13 games

TOBTTReds
07-18-2007, 09:35 PM
He's struggling so far.

Five years from now when he's still in the minors, we can see how he's doing. Many of us will be dead by the time he ever reaches the Majors.

Wow. He is done already. That would suck.

I like the fact his OBP is almost 120 points higher than his average. Patience is a virtue. I know his slugging is below sucking, but he is 19 and tasting more than HS pitching.

AmarilloRed
07-18-2007, 10:38 PM
I was just saying we really need a catcher on the Reds. It sounds like Devin has a long way to go,though

dougdirt
07-18-2007, 11:42 PM
I was just saying we really need a catcher on the Reds. It sounds like Devin has a long way to go,though

He does. He is 19 and just graduated high school three weeks ago.

reds44
07-18-2007, 11:44 PM
I was just saying we really need a catcher on the Reds. It sounds like Devin has a long way to go,though
It's his 3rd week in the minors and he's just out of high school.

What did you expect?

BoydsOfSummer
07-19-2007, 12:04 AM
Could a mod change the title of this to "Prospect Profile: Devin Mesoraco"

I didn't know what to title it after I drafted him.

Tanx

BoydsOfSummer
07-20-2007, 03:47 AM
Last night Devin went 1-4 and had a passed ball, his third.

His OPS is a rough .653 but he sports a nice .373 OBP.



GCL Reds
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Reed CF 4 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 .292
Moreta 2B 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .247
Soto SS 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .345
Mesoraco C 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
Brown LF 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .237
Mendez 3B 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .218
Scott a- PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .318
Sanchez 1B 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .206
Cech b- PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .357
Waller DH 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .056
Pullen c- PH-DH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .182
Bastardo RF 3 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .269
Otterness P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Chiu P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Navarro P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Fiebig P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Moreta (4, Perez, P), Bastardo (1, Jimenez).
HR: Reed (1, 1st inning off Perez, P, 0 on, 0 out).
TB: Reed 5; Moreta 2; Mesoraco; Brown; Bastardo 2.
RBI: Reed (8), Soto (17).
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Mendez; Mesoraco 2; Pullen.
Team LOB: 6.

FIELDING
E: Sanchez (7, fielding).
PB: Mesoraco (3).
Pickoffs: Otterness (Beltre at 1st base).

a-Struck out for Mendez in the 9th. b-Grounded out for Sanchez in the 9th. c-Flied out for Waller in the 9th.
GCL Red Sox
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Lin, C RF 3 2 2 1 0 0 0 2 0 .256
Dening DH 5 0 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 .272
Tejeda SS 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .281
Sumoza LF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .286
Beltre CF 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .205
Burgos 1B 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 .275
Blocker 3B 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .265
Gil, R C 4 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 .290
Solano 2B 4 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 .276
Perez, P P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Jimenez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Gonzalez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Lin, C (4, Otterness), Dening (6, Otterness), Blocker (7, Otterness).
TB: Lin, C 3; Dening 3; Beltre; Burgos; Blocker 2; Gil, R 2; Solano 3.
RBI: Tejeda (14), Dening 2 (11), Gil, R (6), Solano (4).
2-out RBI: Dening.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Gil, R; Sumoza; Tejeda 4; Dening.
Team LOB: 10.

BASERUNNING
SB: Solano (3, 2nd base off Otterness/Mesoraco), Burgos (1, 3rd base off Otterness/Mesoraco).
CS: Beltre (3, 2nd base by Otterness/Mesoraco), Solano (2, home by Otterness/Mesoraco).
PO: Beltre (1st base by Otterness).



GCL Reds
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Otterness (L, 0-3) 3.1 8 4 4 2 3 0 5.31
Chiu 3.2 1 0 0 1 2 0 5.40
Navarro 0.2 2 1 1 1 1 0 15.43
Fiebig 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 0 3.55

GCL Red Sox
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Perez, P (W, 1-3) 6.0 3 1 1 1 4 1 3.49
Jimenez (H, 2) 2.0 2 1 1 0 3 0 3.18
Gonzalez (S, 2) 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 4.22



WP: Otterness, Gonzalez.
HBP: Soto (by Perez, P).
Ground outs-fly outs: Otterness 4-1, Chiu 6-3, Navarro 0-1, Fiebig 0-1, Perez, P 8-6, Jimenez 1-2, Gonzalez 1-1.
Batters faced: Otterness 18, Chiu 14, Navarro 5, Fiebig 2, Perez, P 23, Jimenez 8, Gonzalez 4.
Inherited runners-scored: Chiu 2-0, Fiebig 3-1.
Umpires: HP: Joseph Born. 1B: Ryan Karle. 2B: . 3B: .
Weather: 95 degrees, sunny.
Wind: 1 mph, Varies.
T: 2:45

BoydsOfSummer
07-20-2007, 04:16 AM
From the Hardball Times. http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/breaking-down-the-drafts-1st-round-picks-11-20/


15. C Devin Mesoraco, Reds
http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Draft2007/mesoraco-swing.gif




I like athletic catchers and Mesoraco certainly fits that description. Stop me if you've heard this one, but when Mesoraco lets the ball travel and get deep, he shows a quick, powerful swing. When he "goes and gets it," it looks like he's a little handsy. Minorleaguebaseball.com's take on Mesoraco seems to agree with me...

"He tends to get out on his front foot on his swing from time to time."

Both game swings in his draft video show him lunging after pitches and grounding out, so that would be my concern as well. He might need to shorten his swing just a tad (lower the hands maybe?).

Whether he needs to use the cue "trust your hands" (or "trust your body" as I'd rather say), Mesoraco's development hinges on letting the ball travel into the hitting zone. If it doesn't, Mesoraco has a quick release and excellent arm from behind the plate, so not all will be lost if he doesn't develop to his potential with the bat. From a potential point-of-view, I like the pick. There's work to do though.

BoydsOfSummer
07-20-2007, 05:33 AM
Basic Statistics
Year Age Team PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
2007 Rookie GCL Reds 59 50 5 13 1 0 0 4 7 6 .260 .373 .280 653
Extended Statistics
Year Age Team PA AB ISOP BB% K% BABIP GB% LD% RC RC/27 wOBA
2007 Rookie GCL Reds 59 50 .020 11.9% 10.2% .295 60% 5% 5 3.5 .315
Extended Statistics

2007: GCL Reds
Split Statistics with GCL Reds in 2007
Split PA AB ISOP HR BB% K% BABIP GB% LD% AVG OBP SLG wOBA
June 13 12 .083 0 7.7% 7.7% .182 82% 0% .167 .231 .250 .220
July 46 38 .000 0 13.0% 10.9% .333 52% 7% .289 .413 .289 .342
AWAY 29 23 .043 0 13.8% 6.9% .286 76% 5% .261 .414 .304 .349
HOME 30 27 .000 0 10.0% 13.3% .304 42% 5% .259 .333 .259 .282
Game Log
Date Level Pos AB H 2B 3B HR SO BB SB CS
July 19 Rook @ GCL Red Sox C 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
July 18 Rook @ GCL Pirates DH 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
July 17 Rook vs. GCL Orioles C 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1
July 16 Rook @ GCL Twins C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
July 13 Rook vs. GCL Pirates DH 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
July 12 Rook @ GCL Orioles C 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
July 11 Rook vs. GCL Twins C 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
July 8 Rook @ GCL Pirates C 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
July 7 Rook vs. GCL Orioles DH 5 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
July 6 Rook @ GCL Twins C 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0

LoganBuck
07-20-2007, 12:56 PM
My guess is he is spending more time learning to handle pitchers, and game theory than he is on his hitting. Catchers are notoriously slow to develop. Gotta like the OBP though.

BoydsOfSummer
07-24-2007, 01:07 AM
Devin with an ofer effort last game.

GCL Reds Top 2nd

* David Scott reaches on fielding error by center fielder Quincy Latimore.
* Devin Mesoraco called out on strikes.
* Rafael Sanchez grounds into double play, pitcher Rafael Delossantos to shortstop Victor Alvarez to first baseman Thomas Hagan. David Scott out at 2nd.


GCL Reds Top 5th

* Devin Mesoraco strikes out swinging.
* Rafael Sanchez called out on strikes.
* Jose Gualdron singles on a ground ball to third baseman Daniel Bomback.
* Alexis Oliveras strikes out swinging.

GCL Reds Top 7th

* Pitcher Change: Malvin Vasquez replaces Rafael Delossantos.
* David Scott flies out to left fielder Ciro Rosero.
* Devin Mesoraco reaches on fielding error by shortstop Victor Alvarez.
* Rafael Sanchez called out on strikes.
* Jose Gualdron flies out to center fielder Quincy Latimore.

GCL Reds Top 9th

* Pitcher Change: Edward Cordero replaces Malvin Vasquez.
* Jose Bastardo hit by pitch.
* David Scott pops out to third baseman Daniel Bomback in foul territory.
* Devin Mesoraco grounds into a force out, shortstop Victor Alvarez to second baseman Caleb Fields. Jose Bastardo out at 2nd. Devin Mesoraco to 1st.
* Rafael Sanchez flies out to center fielder Quincy Latimore.


GCL Reds
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Reed CF 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
Soto SS 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
Brown DH 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .220
Waller a- PH-DH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .053
Bastardo LF 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .250
Scott 1B 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292
Mesoraco C 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .224
Sanchez 3B 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200
Gualdron 2B 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .311
Oliveras RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .155
Rodriguez, E P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Snowden P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Marizan P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
TB: Reed; Gualdron.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Soto.
S: Oliveras.
GIDP: Sanchez; Waller.
Team LOB: 7.

FIELDING
E: Bastardo 2 (2, fielding, fielding), Sanchez (8, fielding).

a-Grounded into a double play for Brown in the 8th.
GCL Pirates
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Fields 2B 5 2 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 .275
Rosero LF 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .250
Latimore CF 5 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 .274
Bomback 3B 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Peley DH 4 2 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 .296
Hagan 1B 3 2 3 1 0 0 0 2 0 .340
Biela RF 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .238
Alvarez, V SS 4 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 1 .208
Garcia, J C 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 .206
Delossantos P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Vasquez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Cordero P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Hagan (3, Rodriguez, E).
3B: Peley (1, Marizan).
HR: Fields (1, 8th inning off Marizan, 0 on, 0 out).
TB: Fields 5; Rosero; Latimore 2; Peley 4; Hagan 4; Biela; Alvarez, V.
RBI: Alvarez, V 2 (6), Garcia, J (4), Latimore (12), Fields (5), Peley (11).
2-out RBI: Latimore; Alvarez, V; Peley.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Fields 2; Bomback; Garcia, J 2; Alvarez, V 2.
SF: Garcia, J.
Team LOB: 12.

BASERUNNING
SB: Alvarez, V (2, 2nd base off Snowden/Mesoraco).
CS: Rosero (1, 2nd base by Rodriguez, E/Mesoraco).

FIELDING
E: Latimore (1, fielding), Fields (5, fielding), Delossantos (1, fielding), Alvarez, V (5, fielding).
DP: 2 (Fields-Hagan, Delossantos-Alvarez, V-Hagan).



GCL Reds
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Rodriguez, E (L, 1-2) 3.1 4 3 1 2 1 0 1.83
Snowden 2.2 4 2 0 1 3 0 2.31
Marizan 2.0 4 3 3 4 1 1 13.86

GCL Pirates
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Delossantos (W, 1-4) 6.0 1 0 0 0 6 0 3.86
Vasquez 2.0 1 0 0 1 1 0 5.09
Cordero 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.31



HBP: Brown (by Delossantos), Bastardo (by Cordero).
Ground outs-fly outs: Rodriguez, E 6-2, Snowden 2-3, Marizan 3-2, Delossantos 8-4, Vasquez 2-3, Cordero 1-2.
Batters faced: Rodriguez, E 16, Snowden 14, Marizan 14, Delossantos 22, Vasquez 8, Cordero 4.
Inherited runners-scored: Snowden 2-2.
Umpires: HP: Tim Eastman. 1B: Matt Jones. 2B: . 3B: .
Weather: 90 degrees, overcast.
Wind: 1 mph, Varies.
T: 2:46

BoydsOfSummer
07-24-2007, 02:30 AM
Entire Season AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS
vs Left .125 8 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .125 .125 .250
vs Right .240 50 4 12 1 0 0 4 7 8 0 0 .356 .260 .616
Home Games .259 7 27 3 7 0 0 0 2 3 4 0 0 .333 .259 .593
Away Games .194 10 31 2 6 1 0 0 2 4 5 0 0 .324 .226 .550
Day Games .214 16 56 5 12 1 0 0 4 5 9 0 0 .302 .232 .534
Night Games .500 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 .750 .500 1.250
On Grass .224 17 58 5 13 1 0 0 4 7 9 0 0 .328 .241 .570
June .167 3 12 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 .231 .250 .481
July .239 14 46 4 11 0 0 0 3 6 8 0 0 .352 .239 .591
Bases Empty .250 32 0 8 1 0 0 0 4 5 0 0 .351 .281 .633
Runners On .192 26 5 5 0 0 0 4 3 4 0 0 .300 .192 .492
Scoring Position .250 16 5 4 0 0 0 4 3 3 0 0 .368 .250 .618
Season Totals .224 17 58 5 13 1 0 0 4 7 9 0 0 .328 .241 .570

BoydsOfSummer
07-24-2007, 02:33 AM
Date Level Pos AB H 2B 3B HR SO BB SB CS
July 23 Rook @ GCL Pirates C 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
July 22 Rook @ GCL Orioles DH 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
July 21 Rook @ GCL Twins C 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
July 19 Rook @ GCL Red Sox C 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
July 18 Rook @ GCL Pirates DH 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
July 17 Rook vs. GCL Orioles C 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1
July 16 Rook @ GCL Twins C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
July 13 Rook vs. GCL Pirates DH 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
July 12 Rook @ GCL Orioles C 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
July 11 Rook vs. GCL Twins C 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0

TC81190
07-24-2007, 03:25 AM
Jose Bastardo out at 2nd.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:


I seriously hope that guy makes the bigs.

Chi-Town Red
07-24-2007, 07:39 AM
Give him some time...

ChatterRed
07-24-2007, 08:06 AM
Looks like another bust.

HokieRed
07-24-2007, 10:51 AM
Let's give the kid some time, a lot of it, before we start making judgments. That said, the whole draft seems distinctly underwhelming at this point.

dougdirt
07-24-2007, 11:12 AM
I am really hoping ChatterRed was kidding.

As for the whole draft seeming underwhelming, Marc Hulet from baseballanalysts.com (http://www.baseballanalysts.com) has the Reds draft rated at #4 overall for best depth in the draft.

TOBTTReds
07-24-2007, 11:12 AM
Let's give the kid some time, a lot of it, before we start making judgments. That said, the whole draft seems distinctly underwhelming at this point.

I think we have two young hitting prospect waiting in the wngs with Frazier and Waring.

dougdirt
07-24-2007, 11:14 AM
I think we have two young hitting prospect waiting in the wngs with Frazier and Waring.

Lets not forget about Neftali Soto either. There are plenty of guys from the draft that have performed fine so far.

fearofpopvol1
07-24-2007, 01:39 PM
The kid is only 18 and has only played in a hand full of games at this point. It is far too early to judge. If my memory serves me correctly, Jay Bruce got off to a somewhat slow start.

M2
07-24-2007, 01:58 PM
Mesoraco, like any high school catcher, is an extremely long-term project. Catchers are almost always shaky draft picks. There aren't many good ones in the majors, so it's no surprise that catching prospects have pretty much the highest washout rate in the game. Mesoraco's obviously got some plusses, but he's not a Joe Mauer or Johnny Bench type of athlete (almost no one is). The Reds got him at #15 because his talent wasn't off the charts -- good, but not off the charts.

He played his high school ball in a baseball backwater. This is a big step up for him. He might not start settling in to professional ball until 2009 or 2010. Now, he might prove worthwhile in the end, but he's not going to pay any dividends until well into the next decade. Expect him to spend a few years off the prospect radar.

He's a high risk, long haul pick. There's the natural tendency to throw "high reward" in there, but:

1) You can say that about every player taken in the first few rounds of the draft.
2) "High reward" is a bit a of B.S. term. The younger and less defined a kid is, the easier it is to pretend the sky's the limit. Most of the time people use the term, it means nothing.
3) Anybody who can become a productive major league regular offers a high reward.

IslandRed
07-24-2007, 05:18 PM
Agree with everything M2 said. Mesoraco appears to have all the building blocks of a big-league catcher, but much assembly is still required.

Referring to the thread in general, I'm always amused by the RedsZone competition to be the first to shovel dirt on someone's prospect status. What's the prize?

TOBTTReds
07-24-2007, 09:59 PM
Referring to the thread in general, I'm always amused by the RedsZone competition to be the first to shovel dirt on someone's prospect status. What's the prize?

The "Aronchis Bronze Medal"

Eric_Davis
07-25-2007, 04:22 AM
I am really hoping ChatterRed was kidding.

As for the whole draft seeming underwhelming, Marc Hulet from baseballanalysts.com (http://www.baseballanalysts.com) has the Reds draft rated at #4 overall for best depth in the draft.

Well, add that to the REDS' #16 slot in the Baseball America preseason rankings of the minor league organizations, and as George Jefferson would say, "We're a movin' on up...."

Eric_Davis
07-25-2007, 04:24 AM
Mesoraco, like any high school catcher, is an extremely long-term project. Catchers are almost always shaky draft picks. There aren't many good ones in the majors, so it's no surprise that catching prospects have pretty much the highest washout rate in the game. Mesoraco's obviously got some plusses, but he's not a Joe Mauer or Johnny Bench type of athlete (almost no one is). The Reds got him at #15 because his talent wasn't off the charts -- good, but not off the charts.

He played his high school ball in a baseball backwater. This is a big step up for him. He might not start settling in to professional ball until 2009 or 2010. Now, he might prove worthwhile in the end, but he's not going to pay any dividends until well into the next decade. Expect him to spend a few years off the prospect radar.

He's a high risk, long haul pick. There's the natural tendency to throw "high reward" in there, but:

1) You can say that about every player taken in the first few rounds of the draft.
2) "High reward" is a bit a of B.S. term. The younger and less defined a kid is, the easier it is to pretend the sky's the limit. Most of the time people use the term, it means nothing.
3) Anybody who can become a productive major league regular offers a high reward.

Spot on.

I wish we'd drafted a College Catcher sooner than the 23rd round.

I know Mitch Canham would have been the right pick over Morasco like I knew Steven Jackson was the right pick over Chris Perry.

15fan
07-25-2007, 10:14 AM
Mesoraco, like any high school catcher, is an extremely long-term project. Catchers are almost always shaky draft picks. There aren't many good ones in the majors, so it's no surprise that catching prospects have pretty much the highest washout rate in the game. Mesoraco's obviously got some plusses, but he's not a Joe Mauer or Johnny Bench type of athlete (almost no one is). The Reds got him at #15 because his talent wasn't off the charts -- good, but not off the charts.

He played his high school ball in a baseball backwater. This is a big step up for him. He might not start settling in to professional ball until 2009 or 2010. Now, he might prove worthwhile in the end, but he's not going to pay any dividends until well into the next decade. Expect him to spend a few years off the prospect radar.

He's a high risk, long haul pick. There's the natural tendency to throw "high reward" in there, but:

1) You can say that about every player taken in the first few rounds of the draft.
2) "High reward" is a bit a of B.S. term. The younger and less defined a kid is, the easier it is to pretend the sky's the limit. Most of the time people use the term, it means nothing.
3) Anybody who can become a productive major league regular offers a high reward.

Sounds a lot like Joey Votto.

Patrick Bateman
07-25-2007, 11:29 AM
I know Mitch Canham would have been the right pick over Morasco like I knew Steven Jackson was the right pick over Chris Perry.

Well I think just about everyone thought Jackson was the better choice than Perry.

Canham vs. Meseroco? No contest.

Meserac may be raw, but there's a lot more talent there than Canham will ever have. The high school guy s obviously a riskier choice, but you don't take such a massive dwngrade in skill level like you are suggesting to get a little more certainty. Any catcher (even a college catcher) is a big risk, so it's generally best off to pick the most talented one assuming there is a big gap.

11BarryLarkin11
07-25-2007, 11:42 AM
I really like Mitch Canham and I think he's going to be a very good one. Whether he's better than Mesoraco, well, only time will tell. Personally, I'd favor Canham, but I wouldn't have had a problem if the Reds drafted both. Canham should arrive well before Mesoraco and, regardless, having too many good prospects is never a problem. I don't think the Braves regret having both McCann and Salty.

tbball10
07-25-2007, 01:07 PM
Spot on.

I wish we'd drafted a College Catcher sooner than the 23rd round.

I know Mitch Canham would have been the right pick over Morasco like I knew Steven Jackson was the right pick over Chris Perry.

hey, when chris perry is healthy he is just another great weapon for carson's offense. watch out if he can stay on the field this year!!

Eric_Davis
07-25-2007, 09:36 PM
hey, when chris perry is healthy he is just another great weapon for carson's offense. watch out if he can stay on the field this year!!

...and Steven Jackson is the best running back in the NFL.

dougdirt
07-25-2007, 09:45 PM
...and Steven Jackson is the best running back in the NFL.

You arent serious are you?

Give me LT any day of the week and twice on Sundays or Mondays.

camisadelgolf
07-26-2007, 09:43 AM
The Bengals essentially traded Steven Jackson for Chris Perry, Deltha O'Neal, and Robert Geathers. Seeing as how the Bengals have Rudi Johnson, I'm not complaining for one second about that trade.

Patrick Bateman
07-26-2007, 10:42 AM
Neither would I. Deltha was one of the best crners in the league in '05 and Geathers is a useful pass rushing DE. PLus I think Perry s actually a great complimentary back to Rudi when healthy. I doubt anyone would have been able to predict so many injuries. That's more bad luck.

Puffy
07-26-2007, 11:00 AM
...and Steven Jackson is the best running back in the NFL.

LT, Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander all say hi!

Edd Roush
07-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Unfortunately, Larry Johnson will be saying hello from the sideline during mini-camp.

Back to the topic, I thought drafting Mesoraco startled me, considering Wayne's history. I would have expected Wayne to draft college players early and often to compete ASAP, rather than shooting for the moon with Mesoraco. Don't get me wrong, Mesoraco could be the next Johnny Bench, unfortunately there is also a solid chance, he won't ever appear in a major league uniform.

dougdirt
07-26-2007, 12:22 PM
Back to the topic, I thought drafting Mesoraco startled me, considering Wayne's history. I would have expected Wayne to draft college players early and often to compete ASAP, rather than shooting for the moon with Mesoraco. Don't get me wrong, Mesoraco could be the next Johnny Bench, unfortunately there is also a solid chance, he won't ever appear in a major league uniform.

Well now you are assuming the Reds would do a few things, like take someone that wasn't #1 on their board, and then promote a college player fast enough to actually help ASAP. The Reds highest 2006 Draft pick for a regular is Danny Dorn in Sarasota where he started the season and he was their 32nd round pick. This years college crop was said to be fairly weak with lots of solid HS talent, so take that for what its worth.

M2
07-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Well now you are assuming the Reds would do a few things, like take someone that wasn't #1 on their board

Oh, I'll hazard a guess that Mesoraco wasn't #1 on their board when they picked. It should be interesting to see if Rick Porcello signs and what he gets if he does (I'd guess something in the $3M neighborhood).

dougdirt
07-26-2007, 03:48 PM
Oh, I'll hazard a guess that Mesoraco wasn't #1 on their board when they picked. It should be interesting to see if Rick Porcello signs and what he gets if he does (I'd guess something in the $3M neighborhood).

Porcello was said to want 8 million to sign or he was going to college. I will hazard a guess that Rick was not on their board at all for that reason.

Edd Roush
07-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Well now you are assuming the Reds would do a few things, like take someone that wasn't #1 on their board, and then promote a college player fast enough to actually help ASAP. The Reds highest 2006 Draft pick for a regular is Danny Dorn in Sarasota where he started the season and he was their 32nd round pick. This years college crop was said to be fairly weak with lots of solid HS talent, so take that for what its worth.

Well with the way baseball works, unless you are going to wreck a superstar college player's confidence (a la Ryan Wagner), help as soon as possible is understood to be 1-2 years. There's a good likelihood that Krivsky won't be the Reds' GM when Mesoraco hits the bigs, considering the volatility of the position. I am not against the pick of Mesoraco, as it shows that the Reds' are willing to take another Bailey-like risk to hit another home run with a draft pick.

dougdirt
07-26-2007, 04:39 PM
My point is more along the lines of, the Reds are not going to push talent that fast unless its top of the line (see Bruce or Bailey) and you are not going to get that kind of talent at #15 unless you are drafting someone who slipped and wants top 5 type money (Stephen Drew went #15 in 2004 but had the highest signing bonus of anyone in the draft). The Reds probably will never be that type of team to take a guy who fell because of money demands, so they are not going to get that type of talent in the middle of the first round.

Blitz Dorsey
07-26-2007, 08:04 PM
Ouch. Not looking good for Mesoraco through his first 18 games with the GCL Reds...

.226 batting average, 0 HR, 5 RBI

62 at bats, 14 hits (13 singles and 1 double -- ouch again), .324 OBP, .242 SLG, .566 OPS

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Devin%20Mesoraco&pos=C&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=519023

M2
07-27-2007, 11:23 AM
Porcello was said to want 8 million to sign or he was going to college. I will hazard a guess that Rick was not on their board at all for that reason.

It's nice that he said that, but the going rate for top college pitchers last year (both Boras clients) was $3.5M. So Porcello could have demanded a Caribbean island and a palace in Dubai, he'll be signing for something in the $3M range.

He's perfectly welcome to go to college to risk injury and a performance slip in search of an extra $500 K in three years, but I'll be mighty surprised if he isn't locked up in the Tigers system for less than half of his asking price by Aug. 15.

dougdirt
07-27-2007, 11:28 AM
It's nice that he said that, but the going rate for top college pitchers last year (both Boras clients) was $3.5M. So Porcello could have demanded a Caribbean island and a palace in Dubai, he'll be signing for something in the $3M range.

He's perfectly welcome to go to college to risk injury and a performance slip in search of an extra $500 K in three years, but I'll be mighty surprised if he isn't locked up in the Tigers system for less than half of his asking price by Aug. 15.

I would almost be willing to bet money that Porcello, if he signs, doesn't take less than 5 million.

M2
07-27-2007, 11:39 AM
I would almost be willing to bet money that Porcello, if he signs, doesn't take less than 5 million.

Pinky wager then. I can't see the Tigers paying more for Porcello than they did for Andrew Miller or Justin Verlander.

dougdirt
07-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Pinky wager then. I can't see the Tigers paying more for Porcello than they did for Andrew Miller or Justin Verlander.

I don't think they would have made the pick if they didn't think they were going to sign him.

M2
07-27-2007, 12:19 PM
I don't think they would have made the pick if they didn't think they were going to sign him.

I agree. I'm just saying they'll sign him for less than they paid Miller, who was a better, more advanced, less risky pitcher. Boras doesn't have an argumentative leg to stand on. He capped himself. I figure Price's absolute ceiling is $4M and Porcello's not beating that either.

BoydsOfSummer
07-28-2007, 09:20 AM
An uneventful day for young Devin yesterday. A o-fer with two whiffs..









GCL Reds
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Reed CF 5 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 .309
Soto 3B 5 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 2 .324
Scott DH 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 .267
Gualdron 2B 4 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 .304
Sanchez 1B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .197
Mendez a- PH-1B 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 .246
Mesoraco C 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .212
Oliveras RF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .163
Bastardo LF 4 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 .220
Moreta SS 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .214
Lotzkar P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Conatser P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Vinyard P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Hotchkiss P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Navarro P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Fiebig P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Scott (2, Noel), Reed (3, Noel), Gualdron (2, Noel).
3B: Bastardo (2, Noel), Soto (3, Cole).
HR: Mendez (2, 8th inning off Cole, 0 on, 2 out).
TB: Reed 4; Soto 4; Scott 2; Gualdron 4; Mendez 4; Bastardo 3.
RBI: Reed (9), Mendez (7), Soto (19).
2-out RBI: Reed; Mendez; Soto.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Mesoraco 2; Soto; Oliveras; Mendez; Scott.
GIDP: Scott.
Team LOB: 7.

BASERUNNING
CS: Reed (3, 2nd base by Burch/Tarnow).

FIELDING
E: Soto 2 (12, throw, fielding), Navarro (1, fielding).
Outfield assists: Bastardo (Tarnow at home).
DP: (Gualdron-Moreta-Sanchez).

a-Flied out for Sanchez in the 5th.
GCL Orioles
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Lester CF 5 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 .235
Cardona 2B 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 .270
Reimold, N RF 4 1 2 1 0 0 3 0 0 .231
Polanco, E 1B 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .289
Kolodny 3B 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .396
Ellis LF 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .193
Carolus DH 3 3 1 0 0 1 2 1 0 .205
Tarnow C 3 1 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 .282
DiGeronimo SS 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .356
Noel P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Burch P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Cole P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

BATTING
2B: Tarnow (4, Navarro), Reimold, N (4, Navarro).
HR: Carolus (2, 5th inning off Vinyard, 1 on, 0 out).
TB: Lester; Cardona; Reimold, N 3; Polanco, E; Ellis; Carolus 4; Tarnow 3; DiGeronimo.
RBI: Carolus 2 (14), Tarnow 2 (8), DiGeronimo (7), Lester (7), Reimold, N 3 (7), Kolodny (23).
2-out RBI: Lester.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Polanco, E; Cardona 3.
SF: DiGeronimo; Kolodny.
GIDP: Polanco, E.
Team LOB: 6.

BASERUNNING
SB: Cardona (3, 2nd base off Lotzkar/Mesoraco), Carolus (3, 2nd base off Navarro/Mesoraco).

FIELDING
E: Reimold, N (1, throw).
PB: Tarnow (5).
DP: (Polanco, E-DiGeronimo-Polanco, E).



GCL Reds
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Lotzkar 2.0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0.00
Conatser 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 13.50
Vinyard (L, 0-2) 1.1 4 5 2 2 0 1 10.61
Hotchkiss 1.2 1 0 0 0 2 0 0.00
Navarro 0.1 3 6 4 1 0 0 21.60
Fiebig 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.61

GCL Orioles
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Noel (W, 5-0) 6.0 7 2 1 1 5 0 2.01
Burch (H, 2) 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0.00
Cole (S, 1) 2.0 3 3 3 1 3 1 7.71



WP: Navarro 2, Noel.
HBP: Reimold, N (by Conatser), Tarnow (by Vinyard), Ellis (by Navarro).
Ground outs-fly outs: Lotzkar 1-2, Conatser 4-1, Vinyard 0-3, Hotchkiss 0-3, Navarro 1-0, Fiebig 0-2, Noel 7-7, Burch 0-0, Cole 1-2.
Batters faced: Lotzkar 7, Conatser 7, Vinyard 11, Hotchkiss 7, Navarro 7, Fiebig 3, Noel 26, Burch 3, Cole 10.
Inherited runners-scored: Hotchkiss 3-3, Fiebig 1-1.
Umpires: HP: Joel Myers. 1B: Bill Molsan. 2B: . 3B: .
Weather: 95 degrees, overcast.
Wind: 1 mph, Varies.

Eric_Davis
07-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Why don't we wait until he actually does something before we start talking about him every day. This thread's going to be 500 pages before he earns his first player of the week honors.

KeyMastur
07-28-2007, 05:54 PM
he'll be a 3rd baseman / 1st baseman before long........if he can even hit....

Aronchis
07-28-2007, 07:57 PM
he'll be a 3rd baseman / 1st baseman before long........if he can even hit....

Uh, no.

Patrick Bateman
07-28-2007, 08:01 PM
he'll be a 3rd baseman / 1st baseman before long........if he can even hit....

No. Mesoraco is actually a pretty good defensive catcher. He's a guy I fully expect to stay at catcher. It's his natural position, and he's good at it.

The question is his bat. Will he hit well enough to make the majors? Luckily he doesn't have to be too great considering the standards for the catching position. The odds of him ever hitting good enough to play at 1st or 3rd are quite poor.

He'll stay at catcher, and his bat will determine whether he will make the majors.

Blitz Dorsey
07-28-2007, 09:52 PM
Yeah, he is a good defensive catcher. At least we hope he is. From all accounts he is, but he better start hitting the ball. Hopefully Drew Stubbs doesn't try and give him any tips.

reds44
07-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Yeah, he is a good defensive catcher. At least we hope he is. From all accounts he is, but he better start hitting the ball. Hopefully Drew Stubbs doesn't try and give him any tips.
He's 18.

For some reason, I am not concerned by his struggles.

dougdirt
07-29-2007, 02:25 AM
He's 18.

For some reason, I am not concerned by his struggles.

He is actually 19.

As for the Stubbs comment.... don't be a hater.

Blitz Dorsey
07-29-2007, 09:47 AM
And he's also facing pitchers around his age. Yes, pitchers are usually ahead of hitters at that stage (pitchers don't have as many adjustments to make jumping straight from high school like trying to get used to a wooden bat) but it's still not a good sign that Mesoraco is struggling so much already.

And another thing we must remember is that he isn't just facing recently-drafted high school pitchers, he is also facing former college pitchers who weren't drafted very high. So, clearly there is no reason to be alarmed just yet -- he's not going to reach Stubbs status (not hating, but that was a horrible pick for top 10 overall, gotta be real about it) -- but I would like to see him end the season on a high note. Then, he can start next year at Dayton and hopefully be able to hold his own.

Mario-Rijo
07-29-2007, 05:49 PM
And he's also facing pitchers around his age. Yes, pitchers are usually ahead of hitters at that stage (pitchers don't have as many adjustments to make jumping straight from high school like trying to get used to a wooden bat) but it's still not a good sign that Mesoraco is struggling so much already.

And another thing we must remember is that he isn't just facing recently-drafted high school pitchers, he is also facing former college pitchers who weren't drafted very high. So, clearly there is no reason to be alarmed just yet -- he's not going to reach Stubbs status (not hating, but that was a horrible pick for top 10 overall, gotta be real about it) -- but I would like to see him end the season on a high note. Then, he can start next year at Dayton and hopefully be able to hold his own.

I doubt he starts at Dayton next year, most likely Billings and if he plays well perhaps he ends in Dayton. Just my gut feeling about it.

Aronchis
07-29-2007, 09:29 PM
I doubt he starts at Dayton next year, most likely Billings and if he plays well perhaps he ends in Dayton. Just my gut feeling about it.

I expect he will start at Dayton. Don't overestimate what now means. When Kendall came up through the Pirates system over a decade ago, his "rookie ball" season wasn't overly impressive. I could see Mesoraco reaching that level before it is all said and done. Then Kendall improved somewhat his first full year in low A and really exploded as a 20 year old.

Blitz Dorsey
07-30-2007, 10:44 PM
I expect he will start at Dayton. Don't overestimate what now means. When Kendall came up through the Pirates system over a decade ago, his "rookie ball" season wasn't overly impressive. I could see Mesoraco reaching that level before it is all said and done. Then Kendall improved somewhat his first full year in low A and really exploded as a 20 year old.

I agree. No way he starts the season at Billings IMO. That league doesn't even start until mid-summer. What are they going to do, just have him play in extended spring training for two months? I don't think so. I definitely look for him to be with the Dragons from start to finish next year. Might have a rocky year at times, but hopefully he holds his own and then some.

KeyMastur
07-31-2007, 04:34 AM
I agree. No way he starts the season at Billings IMO. That league doesn't even start until mid-summer. What are they going to do, just have him play in extended spring training for two months? I don't think so. I definitely look for him to be with the Dragons from start to finish next year. Might have a rocky year at times, but hopefully he holds his own and then some.

nah. he'll be back in extended next year. i want him one on one for a little bit with the catching coordinator that i hire over the off-season. then he'll move to billings once that season starts up mid june.

Edd Roush
07-31-2007, 08:34 AM
I agree. I'm just saying they'll sign him for less than they paid Miller, who was a better, more advanced, less risky pitcher. Boras doesn't have an argumentative leg to stand on. He capped himself. I figure Price's absolute ceiling is $4M and Porcello's not beating that either.


I actually have an inside source with the Brackman negotiations, and from what I could glean, Brackman, Moeller's finest as well as a Boras' client, will most likely recieve a 4 million dollar bonus on the last day he can sign (August 15th) to not pull an Aaron Boone (Brack can never play basketball again). Furthermore, I was informed that he will recieve some sort of contract/bonus of 8 million dollars when he hits the bigs. Obviously, this is all speculation, but it looks like Brackman will break through Price's "absolute ceiling", however this may be in large part due to his basketball abilities.

Blitz Dorsey
07-31-2007, 11:56 PM
nah. he'll be back in extended next year. i want him one on one for a little bit with the catching coordinator that i hire over the off-season. then he'll move to billings once that season starts up mid june.

Jeez. I sure hope you're wrong. That would indicate a small stunt in his development. Possibly a large one. If he doesn't start the year at Dayton (barring injury) then it's clearly a bad sign IMO.

camisadelgolf
08-01-2007, 01:41 AM
If there's something KeyMastur understands, it's failure. I have my doubts, but he might be right about this.

TOBTTReds
08-01-2007, 12:02 PM
If there's something ******* understands, it's failure. I have my doubts, but he might be right about this.

He should spend the winter with Mike Stefanski, their bullpen catcher. He is a great catcher and teacher.

Blitz Dorsey
08-01-2007, 08:42 PM
Sorry, I have to have higher expectations than the No. 15 overall pick of the draft starting his second season of pro ball in extended spring training. If he is healthy, he starts at Dayton.

BoydsOfSummer
08-04-2007, 10:29 PM
Devin hit his first pro home run yesterday. Congrats, Kid! :thumbup:







Devin, Mesoraco 37 | C
Status: Active

GCL Reds
Rookie Gulf Coast League
MLB Parent Club: Cincinnati
Stats
AVG:
.244
HR:
1
RBI:
7
SB:
1
Bookmark Player
Full Name: Devin Mesoraco
Born: 06/19/1988
Birthplace: Punxsutawney, PA
Height: 6' 1"
Weight: 200
Bats: R
Throws: R

2007 Season
Team League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS
RDS GCL .244 22 78 9 19 2 0 1 7 24 7 14 1 0 .322 .308 .630
Minors .244 22 78 9 19 2 0 1 7 24 7 14 1 0 .322 .308 .630
Last 10 Games: (Current team only)
Date OPP AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
Jul 17 ORI .500 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
Jul 18 @PIR .333 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Jul 19 @RSX .250 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jul 21 @TWI .250 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0
Jul 22 @ORI .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Jul 23 @PIR .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
Jul 27 @ORI .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
Jul 29 RSX .667 3 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0
Aug 01 ORI .200 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Aug 03 RSX .500 4 2 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0
Totals .243 37 4 9 1 0 1 3 3 8 1 0

Splits: (Current team only)
Entire Season AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS
vs Left .250 12 3 3 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 .250 .500 .750
vs Right .242 66 6 16 2 0 0 6 7 13 0 0 .333 .273 .606
Home Games .308 10 39 7 12 1 0 1 4 3 5 1 0 .357 .410 .767
Away Games .179 12 39 2 7 1 0 0 3 4 9 0 0 .289 .205 .494
Day Games .237 21 76 9 18 2 0 1 7 5 14 1 0 .301 .303 .604
Night Games .500 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 .750 .500 1.250
On Grass .244 22 78 9 19 2 0 1 7 7 14 1 0 .322 .308 .630
June .167 3 12 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 .231 .250 .481
July .246 17 57 5 14 1 0 0 5 6 13 0 0 .338 .263 .602
August .333 2 9 3 3 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 .333 .667 1.000
Bases Empty .273 44 1 12 1 0 1 1 4 6 0 0 .347 .364 .711
Runners On .206 34 8 7 1 0 0 6 3 8 1 0 .289 .235 .525
Scoring Position .250 24 7 6 1 0 0 6 3 7 0 0 .333 .292 .625
Season Totals .244 22 78 9 19 2 0 1 7 7 14 1 0 .322 .308 .630


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BoydsOfSummer
08-08-2007, 08:07 AM
From BP's Goldstein; a review of the first rounders.




15. Reds: Devin Mesoraco, C, Punxsutawney HS (Pennsylvania)
Advisor: Hank Sargent
Status: Signed June 22nd; $1.4 million
Where It’s At: The way Mesoraco zoomed up on draft boards in the last weeks leading up to the draft, even an underslot bonus seemed good. Rarely tested against top competition in high school, it’s not a big shock that Mesoraco is struggling early as a pro, batting just .244/.319/.317 in his first 23 Gulf Coast League games, but throwing out nearly 40 percent of opposing basestealers.

Blitz Dorsey
08-12-2007, 09:57 PM
Like the rest of you, I am just hoping this kid turns out to be a good player. We absolutely cannot afford to have two first-round draft busts in back-to-back years.

dougdirt
08-12-2007, 10:08 PM
Like the rest of you, I am just hoping this kid turns out to be a good player. We absolutely cannot afford to have two first-round draft busts in back-to-back years.

Awful quick to call Stubbs a bust isnt it?

He is working on his 3rd month of an .850 OPS. He had an absolute horrible June, but outside of that, he has been fine.

fearofpopvol1
08-13-2007, 01:00 AM
but throwing out nearly 40 percent of opposing basestealers.

That's encouraging at least.

Blitz Dorsey
08-13-2007, 04:37 PM
Awful quick to call Stubbs a bust isnt it?

He is working on his 3rd month of an .850 OPS. He had an absolute horrible June, but outside of that, he has been fine.

Unfortunately, it's not. I would love to be wrong on this one, but the fact that he was a three year college player, a top 10 draft pick, and is still playing at low-A ball (and not exactly tearing it up)... that is pretty much the definition of a bust.

Again, I would like to eat crow on this one, but I have a feeling I'll be having fried chicken instead. Or maybe some ribs on this grill I just bought (charcoal of course, none of this gas stuff).

dougdirt
08-13-2007, 04:40 PM
Unfortunately, it's not. I would love to be wrong on this one, but the fact that he was a three year college player, a top 10 draft pick, and is still playing at low-A ball (and not exactly tearing it up)... that is pretty much the definition of a bust.

Again, I would like to eat crow on this one, but I have a feeling I'll be having fried chicken instead. Or maybe some ribs on this grill I just bought (charcoal of course, none of this gas stuff).

A bust is someone who isn't succeeding after a year? Wow. You know, if you wanted to maybe drop that label on BJ Szymanski.... go for it, at least he has had a full season under his belt. Drew Stubbs has not even played a full year of baseball yet and you are calling him a bust at the age of 22 years old. Just wow.

RedsManRick
08-13-2007, 06:13 PM
If Stubbs is 25 and still in A ball or kicking around with a sub .700 OPS in AA ball, then it's time for the bust label.

Blitz Dorsey
08-13-2007, 08:51 PM
A bust is someone who isn't succeeding after a year? Wow. You know, if you wanted to maybe drop that label on BJ Szymanski.... go for it, at least he has had a full season under his belt. Drew Stubbs has not even played a full year of baseball yet and you are calling him a bust at the age of 22 years old. Just wow.

Szymanzki was a sandwich pick, not the No. 8 overall pick of the draft (or wherever we reached for Stubbs). If you want to call him a bust, feel free. I am very comfortable calling Stubbs a bust and hoping he proves me wrong.

But I'm glad you are confident in him. We need fans like that.

Blue
08-13-2007, 09:04 PM
So, Devin Mesoraco went 1-3 with a single and a HPB today. He also threw out 2 of 3 basestealers... OOPS, wrong thread...

Screwball
08-14-2007, 12:35 AM
So, Devin Mesoraco went 1-3 with a single and a HPB today. He also threw out 2 of 3 basestealers... OOPS, wrong thread...

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

fearofpopvol1
08-14-2007, 04:43 PM
It's nice that he said that, but the going rate for top college pitchers last year (both Boras clients) was $3.5M. So Porcello could have demanded a Caribbean island and a palace in Dubai, he'll be signing for something in the $3M range.

He's perfectly welcome to go to college to risk injury and a performance slip in search of an extra $500 K in three years, but I'll be mighty surprised if he isn't locked up in the Tigers system for less than half of his asking price by Aug. 15.

Props to DougDirt for being right...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2974338

GoReds33
08-14-2007, 05:38 PM
I like Stubbs. Look how valuable Adam Everett is for the Astros.

IslandRed
08-14-2007, 06:15 PM
So, Devin Mesoraco went 1-3 with a single and a HPB today. He also threw out 2 of 3 basestealers... OOPS, wrong thread...

:thumbup:

I realize tangents happen, but we should try not to hijack the Official Prospect Threads if we can help it.

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 12:01 AM
It's nice that he said that, but the going rate for top college pitchers last year (both Boras clients) was $3.5M. So Porcello could have demanded a Caribbean island and a palace in Dubai, he'll be signing for something in the $3M range.

He's perfectly welcome to go to college to risk injury and a performance slip in search of an extra $500 K in three years, but I'll be mighty surprised if he isn't locked up in the Tigers system for less than half of his asking price by Aug. 15.

Well, you were right and so was I. His signing bonus is 3.5 million dollars. He however got a Major League deal worth 7 million dollars. Its always nice when two people are both right with completely different answers. :thumbup:

dougdirt
08-15-2007, 11:08 AM
Just thought I would add this on Mesoraco, from the Sarasota Herald Tribune
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070815/SPORTS/708150622/1006



Has overcome setbacks, now real journey begins

BY TIM BELLA


As more than 30 prospects from the Gulf Coast League Reds file off a bus for a doubleheader on a sweltering summer day in Fort Myers, they're a long way from the major-league lifestyle they hope to live. But the excitement around one player has the Reds thinking he might be a step closer to living the dream.

At 19, Devin Mesoraco, who was the 15th overall pick by the Cincinnati Reds in Major League Baseball's First-Year Player Draft in June, is already considered one of the top catching prospects in baseball.

Mesoraco expects to capitalize on the opportunity given to him in Sarasota but realizes how close his dream came to being a nightmare; he has the scar typical of "Tommy John" surgery patients on his right elbow to remind him.

During a high school playoff game, Mesoraco, at the time a Punxsutawney (Pa.) High School sophomore, was sent from behind the plate to the mound to serve as the team's closing pitcher.

"I just tried to throw hard and it usually worked," Mesoraco said.

On this day, however, Mesoraco knew something was wrong while warming up in the bullpen. His arm felt awkward.

The news of Mesoraco's arm troubles silenced the stadium.

"I was just really scared," Mesoraco said. "I had never been through anything like that before."

The talented teenager with the humble personality was faced with a rigorous recovery and rehab process that would wipe out his junior season of high school baseball.

Tommy John surgery, or ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction, is a procedure to replace a medial elbow ligament with a ligament from elsewhere in the body, such as a forearm or a knee. Named after a former major-league pitcher, the procedure has helped extend the careers of baseball players and has a success rate of 80 to 85 percent.

One year after the injury occurred and after about 10 months of rehab, Mesoraco made a full recovery in June 2006 and began to prepare for his senior high school season.

"Dev was really positive through the whole process," said Zack Martin, a close friend and one of Mesoraco's high school teammates. "He had a great attitude. He's the only one of us that could have pulled through like he did."


Player of the Year

In his first game back as a senior, Mesoraco answered critics and weathered the doubts. In front of what Martin recalls as being about 25 major-league scouts, he hit two home runs and threw out a player trying to steal a base, a performance that put to rest speculation that the injury would affect him.The opening-day performance sparked a memorable season that saw the 6-foot-2, 200-pounder collect individual accolades, such as the Gatorade Player of the Year honoring Pennsylvania's best high school baseball player. He was also named the starting catcher on USA Today's All-USA team.

As a senior, Mesoraco hit .467 with four home runs and 21 RBI. He had a .632 on-base percentage and a .911 slugging percentage.

Mesoraco was ranked by Baseball America as one of the country's best prospects.

Despite the success, Mesoraco was never one to get too excited, his mother said. Family, friends and teammates gathered at a sports bar to watch draft day and celebrate his first-round selection by Cincinnati. Even on a day the catcher described as the greatest day of his life, people might not have been able to tell from his humble reactions.

"I was so proud of him that day because ... it's one of those things when you lay down at night and review things in your mind, I review that whole day in my mind a lot because he was just so Devin," Laura Mesoraco said. "A lot of people got the event on their cell phones and we make them play it over and over because everyone was screaming so loud and Devin was just like 'Oh, you know, I got drafted.'"

Eight days later, Mesoraco capped the first chapter of his journey by leading Punxsutawney to its first baseball state championship, on the same day as his high school graduation.

When he joined the Reds' GCL team, Mesoraco started with a bang, hitting safely in seven of his first eight games and carrying a .333 average.

Since then, the numbers have tailed off. Entering this week, his average had fallen to .222 (22-for-99) with one home run and seven RBI.

Sitting in the Sarasota Reds' locker room at the City of Sarasota Sports Complex, Mesoraco reflects on what the injury meant to him, saying that it was a blessing.

"In the end, it all worked out," Mesoraco said. "I'm not happy it happened, but it wasn't a terrible thing."

Approaching his locker, he points out the nameplate above a locker that reads "37 Mezoraco."

"They spelled my name wrong," he said with a half-smile.

If Mesoraco has his way, baseball fans will know how to spell his name soon enough.

BoydsOfSummer
12-21-2007, 06:21 PM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/BoydsOfSummer/Personal%20Collection/DevinMesoracoAuto.jpg

Blue
12-21-2007, 06:35 PM
^ very cool

BoydsOfSummer
12-21-2007, 07:02 PM
Came in the mail today, thought I'd give everyone a look. Probably his first card.

11larkin11
12-23-2007, 11:31 PM
Seriously, Devin Mesoraco doesn't look like a catcher. Hes a beast. GroundHog Devin, as I like to call him.