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indy_dave00
07-20-2007, 09:41 PM
Bill Bray worked 1 1/3 innings tonite allowed 1 hit and fanned 3. How long before we see him Cincy? Must Stanton be traded first?

Falls City Beer
07-20-2007, 10:06 PM
How long before we see him Cincy? Must Stanton be traded first?

Dude--Ricky Stone is in the bullpen.

KronoRed
07-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Dude--Ricky Stone is in the bullpen.

Juan Castro pitching > Rick Stone pitching

Reds1
07-21-2007, 12:23 AM
Bray could come up now for Ricky Stone - he sucks.

mth123
07-21-2007, 05:27 AM
Harang will be back to take Stone's spot. IMO the Reds should keep trying to trade Stanton and leave Bray down a while longer. If no deal by July 31, the Reds should release Saarloos to make a spot for Bray.

Always Red
07-21-2007, 07:34 AM
Why do I feel like Bill Bray will be back on the DL before he makes it back to the Reds this year? I have nothing to support that thought with; it's just a feeling I have...

acredsfan
07-21-2007, 12:43 PM
Harang will be back to take Stone's spot. IMO the Reds should keep trying to trade Stanton and leave Bray down a while longer. If no deal by July 31, the Reds should release Saarloos to make a spot for Bray.You'd release a guy making 1.2 million this year? The year is lost, and there are many other options to send down instead of releasing a guy with Saarloos' movement. You've got Gosling up and Livingston up that can both be sent down without any problems, or even just send Saarloos down, he's still got options.

Kc61
07-21-2007, 01:10 PM
You'd release a guy making 1.2 million this year? The year is lost, and there are many other options to send down instead of releasing a guy with Saarloos' movement. You've got Gosling up and Livingston up that can both be sent down without any problems, or even just send Saarloos down, he's still got options.

Agree.

Saarloos, IMO, was not well used in the early season. He was pitched too often, and in short relief, not the role he was used to. Then he was suddenly made a starter.

As a long reliever/swing man he is an adequate major league pitcher. He also can be used to try to get a double play sometimes, he's an extreme ground ball pitcher.

Depending on the mix of pitchers next year, I wouldn't rule out Saarloos for the 11th or 12th spot on the staff. Of course, the price would have to be right. Even if not, I wouldn't cut him loose now.

The bullpen has a lot of lefties, with Bray and Guardado in the wings. I think the likelihood is that Stanton will be traded, or Gosling sent down, to make room for Bray.

flyer85
07-21-2007, 02:24 PM
Reds removed Bray from the DL and optioned him to AAA yesterday

mth123
07-21-2007, 08:57 PM
You'd release a guy making 1.2 million this year? The year is lost, and there are many other options to send down instead of releasing a guy with Saarloos' movement. You've got Gosling up and Livingston up that can both be sent down without any problems, or even just send Saarloos down, he's still got options.

IMO Saarloos is by far the worst pitcher on the roster. There are several pitchers in AAA that I would rather see have that spot. He adds nothing that players making the minimum don't add and the Reds can not possibly be thinking of going to arb with him next year. He's as good as gone already.

camisadelgolf
07-21-2007, 09:07 PM
Saarloos was looking pretty good this year, and then he had a stretch of three horrible appearances. Without that three-game stretch, his ERA is under 3.00, and since being recalled, he has looked good again (6+ innings while allowing one run).

Team Clark
07-23-2007, 07:53 PM
Saarloos was looking pretty good this year, and then he had a stretch of three horrible appearances. Without that three-game stretch, his ERA is under 3.00, and since being recalled, he has looked good again (6+ innings while allowing one run).

Better than Coffey as of late. Keep him. :evil:

indy_dave00
07-23-2007, 10:39 PM
Bill Bray 2 hitless innings with 2 walks and 4 stikeouts.
He's had 8 good appearances 9 scoreless innings and has allowed 7earned runs in 2 2/3 in the other 3.

Overall in minors 11 games , 13 2/3 innings , 12 hit , 7 earned runs, 5 walks and 22 strikeouts 1win 1 loss 4.63 era.

Last 2 games 3 1/3-1 hit , 2walks, 7 strikeouts. Seems to be about ready , if not ready.

LoganBuck
07-23-2007, 11:45 PM
Gotta wait another seven days.

indy_dave00
07-24-2007, 12:02 AM
Just in time for the trading deadline to create a roster spot.

11larkin11
07-24-2007, 01:44 AM
Gosling sent down, to make room for Bray.


Honestly, what is wrong with Gosling? His ERA is only 3.97. Take away 1 game where he allowed 4 ER in 2 innings, it is a 0.97 ERA.

camisadelgolf
07-24-2007, 02:36 AM
I think you can do worse than Gosling as a long reliever. As long as he's throwing junk innings while being paid near league minimum, I don't mind him on the roster.