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Chi-Town Red
07-27-2007, 10:46 PM
2 great defensive plays tonight...play the guy from time to time please!!!

Chi-Town Red
07-27-2007, 10:49 PM
oh and add a bomb on top!!!!!

texasdave
07-27-2007, 10:51 PM
Nice to see. He has the tools; he just has to put them on display. Tonight is as good as any to start.

howyoufreelin
07-27-2007, 11:43 PM
oh and add a bomb on top!!!!!

Bomb is an understatement. He obliterated that ball.

Chi-Town Red
07-27-2007, 11:55 PM
good to see isn't it?

howyoufreelin
07-27-2007, 11:57 PM
good to see isn't it?

Definately. Edwin is one of my favorite players. He has the talent to be one of the best 3B in the league.

Chi-Town Red
07-28-2007, 12:20 AM
Definately. Edwin is one of my favorite players. He has the talent to be one of the best 3B in the league.
yes i agree:thumbup:

Chi-Town Red
07-28-2007, 12:54 AM
GW hit and RBI....good night for EE

TheOnlyRedsFan
07-28-2007, 12:54 AM
and a walk off single!!

Muggerd
07-28-2007, 01:00 AM
I hate edwin !

LvJ
07-28-2007, 01:06 AM
Great night for Edwin, and another series of great moves by Mac.

Hopper who replaced Dunn gets the single, Castro with a great pinch hit bunt, and Edwin with the game winner.

Freel had an awesome night too on D.

Muggerd
07-28-2007, 01:07 AM
Freels driving catch in the 2nd i think was silly, it looked like he was going to slide all the way into right field :laugh:

Degenerate39
07-28-2007, 01:10 AM
I like Edwin I think he has a bright future he's just in a Sophomore slump this season and by looking at night's game he's coming out of it. Edwin should be one of the untouchables on this team.

wojo1025
07-28-2007, 01:21 AM
The question is, what happens when Gonzo comes back from his leave? What do you do with EE and Kepp? With the bat Kepp's swinging you can't sit him right now, you HAVE to let EE show what he can do on a day to day basis, and Gonzo's making too much $$ to sit on the bench!!!! Where do you go from here is you're Mak?

Muggerd
07-28-2007, 01:23 AM
The question is, what happens when Gonzo comes back from his leave? What do you do with EE and Kepp? With the bat Kepp's swinging you can't sit him right now, you HAVE to let EE show what he can do on a day to day basis, and Gonzo's making too much $$ to sit on the bench!!!! Where do you go from here is you're Mak?

I would say what i would do but it would just start an argument. ;)

Degenerate39
07-28-2007, 01:23 AM
The question is, what happens when Gonzo comes back from his leave? What do you do with EE and Kepp? With the bat Kepp's swinging you can't sit him right now, you HAVE to let EE show what he can do on a day to day basis, and Gonzo's making too much $$ to sit on the bench!!!! Where do you go from here is you're Mak?

Sit Kepp

TheOnlyRedsFan
07-28-2007, 02:57 AM
Mack seems to find a way to get all the OF's in the game. I am sure he would find a way to get all the IF's used

NeilHamburger
07-28-2007, 10:53 AM
I definetly try and trade gonzo this offseason or even before the deadline. This team doesn't need a high strike out, streaky hitter at short, they have plenty elsewhere. I like a contact hitter like Kepp in the lineup, it adds another dimension to the team.

DTCromer
07-28-2007, 10:58 AM
There's a reason Gonzo is untouchable and he should be. You go and try and find a SS for @ 3 million/year.

AmarilloRed
07-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Keppinger has shown so far that he can hit, and he is presently playing better than Edwin. However it is more likely Edwin will be a starting third baseman, and Keppinger is a future utility player. Either way, Mack will have a hard decision to make.

mound_patrol
08-09-2007, 03:25 PM
How long until people start jumping on the Edwin boat again? He's starting to show why people were so high on him last year. The only thing I'd like to see is more power, but it's hard to go against linedrives.

Degenerate39
08-09-2007, 03:57 PM
I've never left the SS Edwin

markymark69
08-09-2007, 04:10 PM
I've never left the SS Edwin

Me either. A 24-25 year old line drive hitter in a hitter friendly ball park that is making basically nothing salary-wise. Those are players you hang onto.

jfleur87
08-09-2007, 04:14 PM
i've had a man-crush on edwin since day one, this year has been upsetting, but i won't jump off the bandwagon yet

reds44
08-09-2007, 04:55 PM
I've never left the SS Edwin
Same here.

mound_patrol
08-09-2007, 04:57 PM
I've never left the SS Edwin

There's been plenty that have though. Many want to see Keppinger at third over EE. Edwin has so much potential it would be foolish to give up on him so quickly.

Screwball
08-09-2007, 05:38 PM
EE last 14 days: .325/.386/.500/.886 with 2 HR and 8 RBI
EE last 7 days: .381/.381/.571/.952 with 1 HR and 5 RBI

I think it's safe to say EE's been seeing the ball real well lately. Couple that with what's been excellent defense ever since his demotion (and subsequent callup) to AAA, and it's very easy to get excited about this kid.

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 06:18 PM
been on the bandwagon all year, but reds management seems to hate him.

mound_patrol
08-09-2007, 06:25 PM
been on the bandwagon all year, but reds management seems to hate him.

I don't think management under kriv have ever liked him...quite unfortunate

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 06:27 PM
I don't think management under kriv have ever liked him...quite unfortunate

They just need to let him play, hes cheap and young. No reason to be running him out of town because he made a few throwing errors.

roby
08-09-2007, 06:58 PM
I agree with you guys...Edwin is certainly part of the answer for the Reds. It seems as if reds management has it in for him (although the demotion seems to have woken him up some). I still think that he will hit for power and drive in runs, and his defense has been much improved lately.

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 07:01 PM
I agree with you guys...Edwin is certainly part of the answer for the Reds. It seems as if reds management has it in for him (although the demotion seems to have woken him up some). I still think that he will hit for power and drive in runs, and his defense has been much improved lately.

Not to mention he seems to come through with runners on a lot. I really like him and no where ready to give up on him. How many teams would give up on a guy that had 70 rbis in like 117 games the year before.

Degenerate39
08-09-2007, 07:31 PM
Not to mention he seems to come through with runners on a lot. I really like him and no where ready to give up on him. How many teams would give up on a guy that had 70 rbis in like 117 games the year before.

How many fans would give up on a guy that has 74 RBIs in 111 games

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 09:43 PM
How many fans would give up on a guy that has 74 RBIs in 111 games

For a guy like edwin, i hope none

Chi-Town Red
08-09-2007, 10:08 PM
EE... hope he stays in a Reds uni for a long time

Degenerate39
08-09-2007, 10:42 PM
For a guy like edwin, i hope none

I was actually talking about someone that roams in the outfield.

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 10:44 PM
I was actually talking about someone that roams in the outfield.

Cool story, Hansel

Degenerate39
08-09-2007, 10:47 PM
Cool story, Hansel

Go look at Dunn's stats if you don't believe that I was referring to him. I'll even send you the link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6763;_ylt=AtTMpc9mWuxZcP0SeMx87qkW0bYF

I guess it's just the name that everyone hates and not the RBI's.

Muggerd
08-09-2007, 10:58 PM
Go look at Dunn's stats if you don't believe that I was referring to him. I'll even send you the link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6763;_ylt=AtTMpc9mWuxZcP0SeMx87qkW0bYF

I guess it's just the name that everyone hates and not the RBI's.

Edwin is 24 and making 407,500 a year. I knew exactly who you referring to. I also would say that Edwin besides the power numbers is a better hitter and batter than Dunn with years less experience.

Screwball
08-10-2007, 01:28 AM
Edwin is 24 and making 407,500 a year. I knew exactly who you referring to. I also would say that Edwin besides the power numbers is a better hitter and batter than Dunn with years less experience.

Yes, besides the ability to get on base and the ability to hit the ball with power, EE is a much better hitter. Then again, using that logic I suppose Jeff Conine is better than Dunn as well.

AmarilloRed
08-10-2007, 01:49 AM
I have made some less than flattering posts about Edwin , so it could be presumed I was off the wagon. He has not shown the same power he demonstrated last year for most of this year. Still, he has done better in this respect lately, and I have always said he might improve in the second half.

Muggerd
08-10-2007, 07:41 AM
Yes, besides the ability to get on base and the ability to hit the ball with power, EE is a much better hitter. Then again, using that logic I suppose Jeff Conine is better than Dunn as well.

The guy is 24 and has shown power numbers in the past and his OBP isnt much worse than Dunns to begin with. Not to mention Edwins stats with runners on base is better, But hey lets blindly love Dunn because he hits homers!

UPRedsFan
08-23-2007, 10:58 PM
Is there a third basemen in the game with better range than Edwin?

Really he has become a strong defensive presence down there. I've lost count of how many fantastic plays he's made to save hits and runs.

In another thread it was suggested that Edwin is traded and Kepp given 3b. I'd rather see Votto or Dunn go for pitching and keep Edwin for the right handed bat and defense.

Screwball
08-23-2007, 11:04 PM
His defense has been nothing short of outstanding ever since his demotion and then subsequent call-up back to the Reds. Kudos to Edwin for getting things together defensively, and now that he's currently heating up offensively (as well as OPSing over .842 and .820 in May and June) while being young and cheap, he seems like a very bright 3B for the future.

AmarilloRed
08-24-2007, 12:01 AM
He had a good night tonight and had a home run and a double.

Degenerate39
08-24-2007, 12:03 AM
He had a good night tonight and had a home run and a double.

Don't forget that web gem worthy grab

AmarilloRed
08-24-2007, 12:11 AM
Don't forget that web gem worthy grab

I was watching the game on Gameday; I was unable to watch him make the catch. Thanks for the information, though.

AmarilloRed
08-26-2007, 11:06 PM
I thought I would give Edwin his due. I have been really hard on him because of his reduced power numbers this year, but he has really turned it up in August. Here are his numbers: 21 games, 82 AB, 16 runs, 27 hits, 6 doubles, no triples, and three home runs. He had a OBP of .360 in the month, Slg. of .512, and a BA of .323. Hopefully he can continue this good progress in the month of September.

Natty Redlocks
08-27-2007, 01:36 PM
I bet the Pirates wish they hadn't given up on
this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ramirar01.shtml). I'd love to see the Reds just leave EE alone; he's obviously got the talent and the work ethic.

Z-Fly
08-27-2007, 01:45 PM
I bet the Pirates wish they hadn't given up on
this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ramirar01.shtml). I'd love to see the Reds just leave EE alone; he's obviously got the talent and the work ethic.

I am pretty sure they traded him due to $$$ issues.

AmarilloRed
08-29-2007, 02:29 PM
4 for 9 for Edwin in the double-header, and he got his 56th rbi. Still, all the hits were singles. He has been showing signs of the player he was last year in this month.

Muggerd
08-29-2007, 02:33 PM
4 for 9 for Edwin in the double-header, and he got his 56th rbi. Still, all the hits were singles. He has been showing signs of the player he was last year in this month.

His power potential is the only reason I am not giving up on the guy.

AmarilloRed
08-30-2007, 02:52 AM
2 for 5 tonight. He got his 18th double, and his BA is now at .279.

Orenda
08-30-2007, 08:30 AM
Shortly before Edwin was demoted to Louisville earlier in the season the reds had played a series in Pittsburgh and Edwin came through with a bases loaded triple. The ball he hit was to the deepest part of the ballpark in left center. I believe its about 410 or so, but he just missed the grand slam by a couple feet. Any other stadium and that ball is a homerun. A lot of "zoners" at the time were down on Edwin, and I always had a sneaking suspicion if that ball he hit would have cleared the fence that some might have shown a little bit longer of a memory when it comes to his ability. He was sent down shortly after. The thing I like, is that he is still having a decent season in his second year and he really hasn't played up to his ability for a whole season. Who said he reminds them of Danny Dreisson?

AmarilloRed
08-31-2007, 03:14 AM
2 for 4 tonight with his 57th RBI, and his BA is now up to .282. 5 of his 6 hits have been singles. I would like to see him get more XBH. September is ahead of us however.

Jefferson24
09-06-2007, 09:41 AM
EE made his 12th error yesterday, it was his 117th game. Last year in 117 games he made 25 errors. Quite the improvement. He is also batting .285. If he could just add the power back in we would be very solid at 3rd base for some time to come. Maybe the future is beginning to brighten a little.

scounts22
09-06-2007, 11:06 AM
He's been solid for the last month or so and very fun to watch. Seems like something's caught fire in him. I've actually seen him smile a couple times, not something that happens too often on the field.

AmarilloRed
09-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I have noticed that Mackanin will alternate Edwin and Keppinger at third base, and keep Gonzalez at shortstop. I am not sure if that is a good idea.

scounts22
09-06-2007, 02:51 PM
I have noticed that Mackanin will alternate Edwin and Keppinger at third base, and keep Gonzalez at shortstop. I am not sure if that is a good idea.

True story. Gonzo's bat = not so great.

AmarilloRed
09-19-2007, 02:08 AM
Here are Edwin's updated numbers for the year:128 games, 464 Ab, 62 runs, 136 hits, 22 doubles, 1 triple, 14 hr's, 72 rbi, 202 total bases, .357 OBP, .435 slugging, and a .293 BA. His numbers in September are even better: .435 OBP, .653 slugging, and a .388 BA in September. I was one of the leading voices who wanted to see more power from Edwin in the second half, and he seems to be finishing strong. He could finish with a .300 BA, and that would be a major accomplishment for him after the tough year he has had.

HokieRed
09-19-2007, 11:14 AM
I've been a big EE supporter for years and I'm delighted to see him coming through again. He's a remarkable player for a 24 year old. I hope RZers will get over the idea of trading him for some league average starting pitcher who probably doesn't exist. Does anybody have EE's numbers since Narron was fired?

Screwball
09-19-2007, 05:39 PM
Well, I'm not sure exactly when Narron was fired, but in the 2nd half EE is hitting: .322/.363/.490/.854 with 11 2B, 8 HRs, and 36 RBI.

IMO, EE (along with Dunn, Phillips, et. al) is a big reason why the offense has been so potent over the last month or two.

RedsFanatic
09-19-2007, 09:39 PM
Another jack tonight for Edwin...

Frank Zek
09-19-2007, 10:37 PM
1. In the past I have not been a big fan of EE

2. His 2nd half performance has been very good ( both offensively and defensively )

3. EE is the Reds 3B. Keppinger has had a nice 2007 but he is best suited as the #1 infield backup not as an everyday player (IMO)

4. The Reds need EE to put together a full season. One of the problems early this year offensively was that Phillips was the only strong RH bat. The Reds need EE and Phillips to balance out Votto-Dunn-Hamilton-Griffey/Bruce.