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Danny Serafini
07-31-2007, 01:43 PM
C. Trent spotted him in Washington according to his blog, so it stands to reason he'll be activated.

Chip R
07-31-2007, 01:44 PM
C. Trent spotted him in Washington according to his blog, so it stands to reason he'll be activated.


Maybe he's just with a tour. ;)

Red Leader
07-31-2007, 01:44 PM
Well, I guess Mark Bellhorn can go back to Louisville now. :D

M2
07-31-2007, 01:47 PM
Good to hear he's back with the team. I hope his son is doing better.

flyer85
07-31-2007, 01:49 PM
Hopefully his son is getting well ... from an on field standpoint he didn't seem to be missed.

MartyFan
07-31-2007, 01:50 PM
Good deal...here's hoping his son is getting stronger.

Falls City Beer
07-31-2007, 01:51 PM
Hopefully his son is getting well ... from an on field standpoint he didn't seem to be missed.

I don't know--any thing that jettisons Castro.

Danny Serafini
07-31-2007, 01:55 PM
Now official, Gonzalez back and Elizardo Ramirez called up according to team press notes. Castro resumes his place on the DL.

KronoRed
07-31-2007, 01:56 PM
Well, I guess Mark Bellhorn can go back to Louisville now. :D

Or Chattanooga, or Dayton

RedsManRick
07-31-2007, 01:59 PM
I hope EZ gets a chance to start. Like Gosling, he's more of a law of large numbers guy.

M2
07-31-2007, 02:01 PM
I hope EZ gets a chance to start. Like Gosling, he's more of a law of large numbers guy.

I can't imagine they'll have Ramirez do anything but start.

pedro
07-31-2007, 02:01 PM
My guess is that EZ is the sacrificial lamb that will get thrown out there every 5 days whether he gets pounded or not in order to keep the Reds from having to bring up someone they like better for the time being.

Chip R
07-31-2007, 02:02 PM
Didn't Lizard pitch a gem last year in D.C.?

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:03 PM
EZ was not bad before Narron abused him last year. He is still young, and his stuff and command are better than most other options. The key for him is keeping the HR rate down.

Falls City Beer
07-31-2007, 02:04 PM
My guess is that EZ is the sacrificial lamb that will get thrown out there every 5 days whether he gets pounded or not in order to keep the Reds from having to bring up someone they like better for the time being.

If he's healthy--and that's a big "if"--I'll say he matches Lohse's numbers to the end of the season. Without much of a hitch.

Tom Servo
07-31-2007, 02:05 PM
The Kyle Lohse era is dead, long live the Lizard King.

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:06 PM
BTW, for whatever reason EZ is getting a lot more GBs this year than he has in the past.

Roy Tucker
07-31-2007, 02:12 PM
Just as long as Ross catches EZ, he'll be OK. It was when Lizard was paired with Valentin was when disaster struck.

Patrick Bateman
07-31-2007, 02:13 PM
Ramirez is a guy that the Reds need to see what they have with him. He pitched well enough last season in the majors, and really his numbers are a little skewed because of the whole Philly incident.

He's never going to be top of the rotation calibre, but I'd like to see him in the rotation for the rest of the season in Lohse's spot, and see if he can continue cutting it as a back of the rotation starter. If he can, Ramirez can be a nice cheap option to go with Belisle at the back of the rotation.

Reds1
07-31-2007, 02:13 PM
EZ pitched a gem in AAA so I'm not surprised to see him up. So I guess Kepplinger takes Dunn spot in LF after the trade. <wink wink>
Nice to have Gonz back. Hope is son is safe and ok.

M2
07-31-2007, 02:17 PM
BTW, for whatever reason EZ is getting a lot more GBs this year than he has in the past.

Hopefully he keeps that up. Grounders are his ticket to success.

Superdude
07-31-2007, 02:24 PM
Welcome back Lizard! I still think this guy is going to be a solid starter. Hopefully he's healthy

Rojo
07-31-2007, 02:30 PM
I see Elmer Dessens, part deux and that's not a swipe.

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 02:32 PM
If a trade doesn't happen, I guess this means Moeller/Santos/Gosling is DFAed or Coffey/Coutlangus is optioned.

BRM
07-31-2007, 02:33 PM
If a trade doesn't happen, I guess this means Moeller/Santos/Gosling is DFAed or Coffey/Coutlangus is optioned.

I think EZ is taking the roster spot vacated by Kyle Lohse.

Red Leader
07-31-2007, 02:35 PM
I think EZ is taking the roster spot vacated by Kyle Lohse.

I believe you are correct. Gonzalez takes Castro's spot since Castro went back on the DL.

The 25 man should be all square after those two moves.

bucksfan
07-31-2007, 02:39 PM
The Kyle Lohse era is dead, long live the Lizard King.

He can do anything....

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 02:43 PM
I thought Dumatrait were put on the roster. My bad.

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:43 PM
Hopefully he keeps that up. Grounders are his ticket to success.
GB/FB ratio last year in AAA was 0.46, last year with Reds was 1.20, this year in AAA was 1.80

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:44 PM
I thought Dumatrait were put on the roster. My bad.a local "key" board member says he is going to the pen.

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 02:47 PM
Well, I'd rather have Dumatrait in the bullpen than Moeller on the bench.

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:50 PM
If Dumatrait is going to the pen it means some LHP is leaving the pen.

Red Leader
07-31-2007, 02:50 PM
If Dumatrait is going to the pen it means some LHP is leaving the pen.

We can only hope Stanton is leaving via trade...

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 02:52 PM
I'd rather have a 24-man roster than Moeller as the 25th man. :x

flyer85
07-31-2007, 02:53 PM
We can only hope Stanton is leaving via trade...there has never even been a whisper of Stanton being traded ... of course, that doesn't mean that it won't happen.

KronoRed
07-31-2007, 03:00 PM
Stanton is the type of player who would clear waivers, Conine the same.

LincolnparkRed
07-31-2007, 03:06 PM
Stanton is the type of player who would clear waivers, Conine the same.
Exactly, only a few teams could use them and no one would stop someone else from getting them.

Matt700wlw
07-31-2007, 03:29 PM
Dumatrait must be a figment of our imagination.

pedro
07-31-2007, 03:32 PM
Dumatrait must be a figment of our imagination.

he's a figment of yours. :p:

Matt700wlw
07-31-2007, 03:35 PM
he's a figment of yours. :p:

How're Lizard's numbers down there? Worthy of a callup?

pedro
07-31-2007, 03:37 PM
How're Lizard's numbers down there? Worthy of a callup?

Better than Dumatrait's

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=416&stn=true&sid=t416

FTR, I would rather see EZ or even Dumatrait this year than someone like Cueto or Bailey who may actually have a future.

Matt700wlw
07-31-2007, 03:38 PM
Better than Dumatrait's

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=416&stn=true&sid=t416




There's room for both of them this time of year...during the state in which this team is in...

pedro
07-31-2007, 03:41 PM
There's room for both of them this time of year...during the state in which this team is in...

I don't have a problem with using Dumatrait. I just don't think it's wise to think he's the answer to any question besides "who doesn't really have a future that I can sacrifice so that I don't have to bring up someone who may actually be good in the future?"

Caveat Emperor
07-31-2007, 03:52 PM
There's room for both of them this time of year...during the state in which this team is in...

In a better organization, they only place there'd be room for either of them is on a bus out of town.

Dumatrait is a soft-tosser that can't miss bats and I've seen statues that move more than an EZ fastball.

11larkin11
07-31-2007, 03:54 PM
Yes EZ's ERA is lower, but the K/bb ratio is almost the same.

dfs
07-31-2007, 04:42 PM
Better than Dumatrait's

You know....What does Dumatrait have to do in order to get a start? I don't think he's a major league pitcher either, but the guy has a 3.49 ERA in 21 starts this year. At some point you have to think they would go ahead and give the guy a start or two

#1 They seem bound and determined that he's a starter and a starter only.
#2 I believe this is his last option year. He's been on the 40 man roster forever.
#3 They could use some decent starting pitching. Ok, he's not going to put up a 3.50 Era in the majors, but say that inflates to 4.75...the reds could still use that.

OK....they bring up Homer in early June. It didn't take Kreskin to see that coming, but then they bring up Livingston who Dumatrait has clearly outpitched this year. Now, that they need another starter from the bats, they bring up the Lizard hoping that he has healed from whatever it was that happened to him last year. I guess I would have left the Lizard in Louisville and told him to get healthy.

If you're not going to use Dumatrait...Why keep him on the 40 man roster?

pedro
07-31-2007, 04:46 PM
You know....What does Dumatrait have to do in order to get a start?

not walk so many batters.

deltachi8
07-31-2007, 05:20 PM
not walk so many batters.

details, details...

Reds Fanatic
07-31-2007, 05:51 PM
According to John Fay Dumatrait may still be the starter on Thursday. Even though Ramirez is up they have not named a starter for Thursday. Also Fay talked to Ramirez and he said his shoulder still bothers him from time to time. Trent also thinks Bellhorn may just be a filler and may only be here for a few days until Thursday's starter comes up.

dfs
07-31-2007, 06:36 PM
not walk so many batters.

His Whip is better than either the Lizard's or Livingston's.

and...if you aren't going to use him now, then why is he on the 40 man roster? He's gonna be out of options next year and they've pretty much insisted that he's a starter for several years now. They're gonna "Belisle" him? Keep him in weird roles for a couple of years?

GAC
07-31-2007, 09:47 PM
I personally think the reason why the Lizard has injury problems is the fact that the guy is so doggone thin. They need to put that boy on the Kevin Mitchell diet regime. :lol:

harangatang
08-01-2007, 01:26 AM
According to Yahoo, The Lizard is scheduled to start on Thursday. I just checked on the Reds official website and found nothing. Any truth to it?