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BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 08:41 PM
Cantu 0-1, Votto 0-1, Bruce 0-0 with a walk.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 08:43 PM
Sarasota is up 4-0 in the second inning. Sean Watson is on the mound for the Reds.

Dayton is down 1-0. Rafael Gonzalez is on the mound for the Dragons.

Johnny Cueto scheduled to start for Louisville tomorrow according to John Fays blog.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 08:44 PM
Cantu singles. 1-2

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 08:44 PM
"Johnny Cueto scheduled to start for Louisville tomorrow according to John Fays blog."



Nice

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 08:44 PM
Votto flies out to left

JaxRed
07-31-2007, 08:46 PM
"Johnny Cueto scheduled to start for Louisville tomorrow according to John Fays blog."



Nice

Answers the "extra man at AA" question.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 08:51 PM
Johnny Cueto now joins Joey Votto, Homer Bailey, Jay Bruce, Tyler Pelland, and Brad Salmon at Louisville. Wow, that team is loaded.

Matt700wlw
07-31-2007, 08:52 PM
Johnny Cueto now joins Joey Votto, Homer Bailey, Jay Bruce, Tyler Pelland, and Brad Salmon at Louisville. Wow, that team is loaded.

I'd rather watch that team

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 08:53 PM
Chris Dickerson RBI triple, then scores himself on a throwing error.

Louisville leading 2-0.

Degenerate39
07-31-2007, 08:54 PM
Johnny Cueto now joins Joey Votto, Homer Bailey, Jay Bruce, Tyler Pelland, and Brad Salmon at Louisville. Wow, that team is loaded.

I can't wait till all those guys are with the Reds

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 08:54 PM
As soon as I open my mouth, Timo Perez gets an RBI double. 2-1 Bats.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 08:55 PM
Sean Watson, 3ip, 1h, 0r, 0bb, 1K.

Grande Donkey
07-31-2007, 08:59 PM
Is keymastur playing?

Blue
07-31-2007, 09:00 PM
As soon as I open my mouth, Timo Perez gets an RBI double. 2-1 Bats.

I think it would be really funny if you actually opened your mouth when you type.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:03 PM
I think it would be really funny if you actually opened your mouth when you type.

Haha, honestly it probably was open as I was typing.

TOBTTReds
07-31-2007, 09:04 PM
Is keymastur playing?

He is 0-1 so far. His average is at .247 right now...maybe he should spend more time in the cage than on the computer.

Degenerate39
07-31-2007, 09:10 PM
He is 0-1 so far. His average is at .247 right now...maybe he should spend more time in the cage than on the computer.

But he's a defensive specialist! I guess he's the next Juan Castro.

TOBTTReds
07-31-2007, 09:12 PM
But he's a defensive specialist! I guess he's the next Juan Castro.

True. He is catching Saarloos tonight. I bet he is angry about that because he knows Saarloos sucks.

Grande Donkey
07-31-2007, 09:12 PM
lol. nice.

Degenerate39
07-31-2007, 09:13 PM
True. He is catching Saarloos tonight. I bet he is angry about that because he knows Saarloos sucks.

I'm surprised he's not throwing the game to make Saarloos look even worse.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 09:19 PM
I can't wait till all those guys are with the Reds

I hope you are patient because it will be a longtime before those guys are in Cincy. I think Krivsky's plan is to sign some more 40-year old vets to long-term deals in order to keep the Reds top prospects in the minors until they become seasoned vets (early 30's) and then call them up. He loves him some vets.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:22 PM
Cantu walks

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:23 PM
Unless I am missing something, Ryan Hanigan is catching tonight for the Bats and not Ryan Jorgensen.... at least according to milb.com Gameday.

Eric_Davis
07-31-2007, 09:23 PM
Chris Dickerson RBI triple, then scores himself on a throwing error.

Louisville leading 2-0.


Triple? How about another cycle tonight?

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Votto pops out.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:25 PM
Dayton is currently being no hit through 4 innings and trailing 1-0 on an unearned run.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 09:26 PM
Votto has got to be frustrated right about now.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:26 PM
Sean Watson has allowed 3 runs on 5 hits and he has struck out 3 in 4 innings. Reds still lead 4-3.

Matt700wlw
07-31-2007, 09:26 PM
Votto needs to be up here.

Obviously what we think matters not.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
I think they'll trade Hatte and Conine in august.

Degenerate39
07-31-2007, 09:31 PM
I think they'll trade Hatte and Conine in august.

Hopefully but I don't think they'd get a whole lot for Conine since he said he would retire after this season.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 09:33 PM
I think they'll pick up Hatteberg's option and deal Votto for a soft-tossing relief pitcher.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:36 PM
Hopefully but I don't think they'd get a whole lot for Conine since he said he would retire after this season.



Would we get any picks for him?

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:38 PM
Would we get any picks for him?

Not unless he comes back and signs with someone else after we offer him arbitration. None of which seems likely. Even then, I don't know if he would qualify as a free agent who would get you compensation.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:39 PM
Bruce doubles.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:39 PM
Shane types faster than I do.

Degenerate39
07-31-2007, 09:40 PM
Would we get any picks for him?

I have no clue that's a good question

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:40 PM
Not unless he comes back and signs with someone else after we offer him arbitration. None of which seems likely. Even then, I don't know if he would qualify as a free agent who would get you compensation.




Well I'd trade him for anything then, PTBNL, cash considerations. Just get something for him.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:41 PM
Well I'd trade him for anything then, PTBNL, cash considerations. Just get something for him.

Exactly.... which is why it boggles my mind that he is still a Red. I am sure someone offered SOMETHING for him.

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 09:42 PM
Bruce is having a solid night. He's 1-for-2 with a double and a walk against a tough lefty in Andy Sisco. That is Bruce's 37th double of the year and 64th extra-base hit, which surpasses his total of 63 last year.

Chi-Town Red
07-31-2007, 09:42 PM
when is CUETO sheduled to pitch?

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:42 PM
What is Bruce's OBP?

Chi-Town Red
07-31-2007, 09:42 PM
GO Jay GO !!!

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:43 PM
when is CUETO sheduled to pitch?



Tomorrow I believe.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:43 PM
Cueto is scheduled to start tomorrow for the Bats.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:45 PM
What is Bruce's OBP?

.359 in AAA through his 2 at bats tonight.

Chi-Town Red
07-31-2007, 09:46 PM
.364 in AAA through his 2 at bats tonight.
IMPRESSIVE :thumbup:

Screwball
07-31-2007, 09:49 PM
What is Bruce's OBP?

For which level? In 2007:

A+ - .380
AA - .405
AAA - Edit: dougdirt has him at .359 through tonight's game

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:51 PM
For which level? In 2007:

A+ - .380
AA - .405
AAA - .338

Not sure where you got his AAA OBP, but its incorrect.

Through his 3 plate apparences tonight he has 78 PA.

69 AB
8BB
1HBP
19 Hits

28 times on base / 78 = .359.

Coming into the game it was 26 / 75 = .347. I guess you missed the HBP to get the .338?

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:52 PM
Dayton takes a 2-1 lead thanks to a Jason Louwsma solo HR and a Denis Phipps single that scored Juan Francisco.

TOBTTReds
07-31-2007, 09:54 PM
Unless I am missing something, Ryan Hanigan is catching tonight for the Bats and not Ryan Jorgensen.... at least according to milb.com Gameday.

(Homer Simpson) DOH! Got my Ry-man's confused. :mooner:

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 09:54 PM
Pelland: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Solid second appearance at Louisville for Pelland. Hopefully he can continue to pitch great and earn himself a spot in the Reds pen next year.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 09:55 PM
How hard does Pelland throw?

Screwball
07-31-2007, 09:58 PM
Not sure where you got his AAA OBP, but its incorrect.


Yeah I just pulled it off of fangraphs.com. Obviously they hadn't updated it through tonight's PAs.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 09:59 PM
Yeah I just pulled it off of fangraphs.com. Obviously they hadn't updated it through tonight's PAs.

and they must have also missed his HBP, because I ran the numbers and without it, his OBP would have been .337 coming into the night.

Aronchis
07-31-2007, 10:03 PM
Lets see, Medlock puts up 1.5 year of great work in AA and only the last couple of weeks finally got promoted before being traded, while Pelland puts up 2 months of "ok" work in AA and gets promoted to AAA.

They are sure not tough to find out who they like or don't like.

uoduck1017
07-31-2007, 10:06 PM
Johnny Cueto will be opposing this guy tomorrow...

http://www.masterpiecepumpkins.com/Graphics/FOX-JimmyJohnson%20%20_orig.jpg

...whoops, wrong Jim Johnson. Anyway, good luck to Johnny tomorrow in his AAA debut.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 10:11 PM
How hard does Pelland throw?

93-95

uoduck1017
07-31-2007, 10:14 PM
Everyday Eddie gives up the lead on a solo homer. Tie game 2-2.

Screwball
07-31-2007, 10:18 PM
Everyday Eddie gives up the lead on a solo homer. Tie game 2-2.

You can't throw the ball with your left hand if your left hand... Nevermind, I'm not gonna say it.

:D

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 10:19 PM
93-95




Wow, maybe that Scott Williamson trade will pan out. I was just looking stuff up on Dumatrait and I didn't realize he was a first round pick and 22nd overall in 2000.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 10:27 PM
Bruce singles off Mike Mcdougal.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 10:29 PM
Jay is now hitting .286/.367/.557 in AAA. Thats an OPS of .924. Not bad for a 20 year old.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 10:32 PM
He's a 3 for 4 night from hitting over .300 in AAA.

Screwball
07-31-2007, 10:33 PM
Jay is now hitting .286/.367/.557 in AAA. Thats an OPS of .924. Not bad for a 20 year old.

Wow. Just wow.

Think he'll get a September call-up?

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 10:35 PM
Wow. Just wow.

Think he'll get a September call-up?

Honestly... no.

If Joey Votto cant get into the line up with Hatteberg/Conine then I don't think they will bring up a 20 year old with Hamilton, Griffey, Dunn, Freel and Hopper out there.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 10:36 PM
Wow. Just wow.

Think he'll get a September call-up?




I could see it If Hamilton doesn't return or Dunn or Griffey gets injured.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 10:38 PM
Sarasota leads 6-3. Miguel Perez is 3-4 with a HR and 4 RBI.

11larkin11
07-31-2007, 10:51 PM
Cueto to AAA:D

I called it:D

So does that mean Maloney will start tomorrow for Chattanooga then Doug/anoyone who knows? It was his day to pitch and Cueto's, thats why I thought Cueto would get promoted.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 11:01 PM
Cantu flies out to center.

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 11:01 PM
Votto grounds out to first.

Stingray
07-31-2007, 11:01 PM
Sarasota leads 6-3. Miguel Perez is 3-4 with a HR and 4 RBI.


He's now hitting .350/.429/.482/.911 in only 77 AB's by my calculations. Why so few ABs? Was he injured earlier? Craig Tatum is hitting almost as well. Perez was considered an excellent fielding catcher. Is he now on the prospect radar?

BearcatShane
07-31-2007, 11:04 PM
Herr K's to end the game. The Bats lose 3-2.

TOBTTReds
07-31-2007, 11:10 PM
He's now hitting .350/.429/.519/.947 in only 77 AB's by my calculations. Why so few ABs? Was he injured earlier? Craig Tatum is hitting almost as well. Prerez was considered an excellent fielding catcher. Is he now on the prospect radar?

iirc, Perez had wrist surgery of some sorts and is just now coming back from that. Him hitting a HR is huge, bc he just flat out doesn't hit HR's, so that tells me his wrist is ok. I think Perez will be a serviceable backup someday. I've heard from insiders (Tony Reali: Innnsiddder information (points click up)) that Perez is ML ready defensively (prior to injury). I've also seen him play many times in Dayton, and I thought he was ready defensively then too, as did a Cardinals scout I talked to then. He will be the new Manos de horo (sp?) if he makes it. Has a cannon too. Likes to gun guys from his knees and can do it.

Blue
07-31-2007, 11:12 PM
heh. Remember some people saying Bruce would hit about .230 and be overmatched at AAA?

Stingray
07-31-2007, 11:14 PM
[QUOTE=AvesIce51; Him hitting a HR is huge, bc he just flat out doesn't hit HR's, so that tells me his wrist is ok. [/QUOTE]

That's his 3rd Hr in his 77ABs.

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 11:14 PM
He is 0-1 so far. His average is at .247 right now...maybe he should spend more time in the cage than on the computer.

I believe .247 is his OPS (just kidding . . . or am I?). According to milb.com, Jerkinson's BA is .222. He's not very good.

AmarilloRed
07-31-2007, 11:21 PM
I believe both Votto and Bruce will be called up in September when rosters expand, but I could be wrong.

dougdirt
07-31-2007, 11:25 PM
iirc, Perez had wrist surgery of some sorts and is just now coming back from that. Him hitting a HR is huge, bc he just flat out doesn't hit HR's, so that tells me his wrist is ok. I think Perez will be a serviceable backup someday. I've heard from insiders (Tony Reali: Innnsiddder information (points click up)) that Perez is ML ready defensively (prior to injury). I've also seen him play many times in Dayton, and I thought he was ready defensively then too, as did a Cardinals scout I talked to then. He will be the new Manos de horo (sp?) if he makes it. Has a cannon too. Likes to gun guys from his knees and can do it.

Actually Perez had a rib removed in spring training.

Stingray
07-31-2007, 11:32 PM
I believe both Votto and Bruce will be called up in September when rosters expand, but I could be wrong.

Bring up Votto as soon as possible, but I'd wait until late June 08 on Bruce due to his age, to let him get maximum minor league development thereby minimumizing his ML development time, and gain an extra year before he's FA eligible.

AccordinglyReds
07-31-2007, 11:33 PM
Hmm...maybe I should leave work early tomorrow and go to the Bats game tomorrow. :)

Stingray
07-31-2007, 11:34 PM
Actually Perez had a rib removed in spring training.

Do you khow why? That has to hurt his throwing, I doubt he still has a cannon.

camisadelgolf
07-31-2007, 11:53 PM
It's to relieve pressure on his subclavian artery.

OesterPoster
07-31-2007, 11:55 PM
It's to relieve pressure on his subclavian artery.

I'd like to take "Things I didn't know before I joined Redszone" for $500 Alex.

:D

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2007, 11:59 PM
Todd Frazier is 0-for-1 with two walks tonight.

reds44
08-01-2007, 12:16 AM
Is Cueto's promotion permanent, or a one start thing like earlier in the year.

Or is it a we will tell him it's for start but if he pitches we'll keep him up here for awhile, much like Bruce?

Blue
08-01-2007, 12:22 AM
Is Cueto's promotion permanent, or a one start thing like earlier in the year.

Or is it a we will tell him it's for start but if he pitches we'll keep him up here for awhile, much like Bruce?

I don't know the answer, but I hope it is, and I hope he gets a REAL shot at making the roster out of spring training. That way we will have... hope.

AmarilloRed
08-01-2007, 12:25 AM
It would be good to have both Bailey and Cueto in spring training. That would be a bit ambitious , though.