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Chip R
08-01-2007, 11:18 AM
I'm thinking Belisle, Phillips, Majewski, and maybe Gosling. Any additions, subtractions? Either way, it doesn't seem like anyone is going to be getting a huge raise from arbitration.

PuffyPig
08-01-2007, 11:24 AM
Everyone gets a pretty good bump in arbitration.

Phillips will likely be in the $2.5M range.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 11:26 AM
I'm thinking Belisle, Phillips, Majewski, and maybe Gosling. Any additions, subtractions? Either way, it doesn't seem like anyone is going to be getting a huge raise from arbitration.

i'm not sure how it works, but Majewski had 2.039 years of service time heading into the year and unless he gets a late call-up, I don't see him getting enough time this year to put him into three years. Do I have that right?

Also, Gosling showed he only had .092 service time coming into the year. Not that it matters, because I couldn't see him getting anything anyway.

Phillips and possibly Belisle appear to me the only ones getting a significant raise that haven't already been signed.

I show Saarloos has arb eligible. Is that right?

westofyou
08-01-2007, 11:30 AM
A group led by Robert Castellini purchased controlling interest (about 70 percent) in the Reds in November, 2005. (The purchase was based on an enterprise value of the team of about $270M.) Carl Lindner, who retains a minority ownership stake, bought the Reds in 1999 for $183M.
Forbes magazine valued the club at $307M in April 2007.

* Opening Day payrolls for 25-man roster
(salaries plus pro-rated signing bonuses):
o 2007: $ 68,904,980 *
o 2006: $ 60,909,519
o 2005: $ 61,892,583
o 2004: $ 46,615,250
o 2003: $ 59,355,667
o 2002: $ 45,050,390
o 2001: $ 48,986,000
o 2000: $ 44,200,000

* * 2007 payroll obligations for former players:
o $2,950,000 (Jason LaRue)
o $2,250,000 (Rheal Cormier)


Wayne Krivsky General Manager
2 years (2006-07), plus 2008 & 2009 mutual options

* hired 2/06 (formerly assistant GM with Minnesota)
* club exercised 2008 option 6/06
* assistant GM Bob Miller
* senior director of scouting Chris Buckley
* director of player development Johnny Almaraz
* former general manager Dan O'Brien was fired 1/06 with 1 year remaining on a 3 year/$1.5M (2004-06) contract

Pete Mackanin Interim Manager
2007

* hired as interim manager 7/2/07
* former manager Jerry Narron was fired 7/2/07
o Narron signed 2- year extension (2007-08) 6/06
o 07:$0.6M
o signed extension as permanent manager 9/05
o 1 year (2006), plus mutual option for 2007
o hired on interim basis 6/05
* former manager Dave Miley was fired 6/05
o Miley had signed extension for 2006 (with 2007 club option) 10/04
o Miley: 1 year/$0.35M (2004), plus 2005 club option (picked up 8/04)
o Miley was hired on an interim basis 7/03, replacing Bob Boone. The Reds hired Miley as the permanent manager 12/03


Ken Griffey Jr. of
9 years/$116.5M (2000-08), plus $16.5M 2009 club option

* 00-08:$12.5M/year, 09:$16.5M club option ($4M buyout)
* $57.5M in salary deferred at 4% interest, to be paid 2009-2024, reducing contract's present-day value at time of signing to between $9.2M and $9.3M annually, according to Reds management sources
o $5.5M of 2000 salary deferred
o $6.5M/year of 2001-2008 salaries deferred
o signed 2/2000, replacing final year of previous contract
* 4 years/$34M (1997-2000)
o $2.5M signing bonus ($1M paid 2/96, $1.5M paid 1/97)
o 97:$7.25M, 98:$7.75M, 99:$8.25M, 00:$8.25M
o $5M ($1.25M/year) deferred without interest & paid 2001-04), reducing contract's present value to $32.5M
o signed 1/31/1996
o acquired in trade (from Seattle) 2/10/2000
* 4 years/$24M (1993-96)
o signed 12/92
* 2 years/$2.535M (1991-92)
o 91:$0.535M, 92:$2M
o signed 3/1991
* 1 year/$0.18M (1990)
* 1 year/$68,000 (1989)
* drafted 1987 (1-1), $0.16M signing bonus
* agent: Brian Goldberg
* ML service: 18.000

Adam Dunn of
2 years/$18.5M (2006-07), plus $13M 2008 club option

* re-signed 2/06, avoided arbitration ($8.95M-$7.1M)
* 06:$7.5M, 07:$10.5M, 08:$13M club option ($0.5M buyout)
* 2008 option may increase to $16M based on award bonuses
* 2008 option voids if Dunn is traded before 2008
* 1 year/$4.6M (2005), avoided arbitration 1/05
* 1 year/$0.445M (2004), re-signed 3/04
* 1 year/$0.4M (2003) 3/03
* agent: Brian Peters, Greg Genske
* ML service: 5.074

Eric Milton p
3 years/$25.5M (2005-07)

* $4M signing bonus
* 05:$4M, 06:$8.5M, 07:$9M
* may opt out of final year (2007) by reaching specific performance levels
* 4 years/$21M (2001-04), plus $0.85M in performance bonuses
o 01:$2.15M, 02:$3.85, 03:$6M, 04:$9M
* agent: Casey Close
* ML service: 9.000

Aaron Harang p
4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option

* re-signed 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.5M-$4.25M)
* 07:$4.25M, 08:$6.75M, 09:$11M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M ($2M buyout)
* 2011 option increases to $13M with 210 IP in 2010
* if traded, 2011 option becomes mutual option at $14M ($2.5M buyout)
* 1 year/$2.35M (2006), re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
* 1 year/$0.44M (2005)
* 1 year/$0.36M (2004)
* agents: Levinson brothers
* ML service: 4.061

Alex L. Gonzalez ss
3 years/$14M (2007-09), plus $6M 2010 mutual option

* signed as a free agent 11/06
* 07:$3.5M, 08:$4.625M, 09:$5.375M, 10:$6M mutual option ($0.5M buyout)
* 2009 salary increases to $5.5M with Gold Glove in 2007 or 2008
* 1 year/$3M (2006)
o signed as a free agent 1/06 (non-guaranteed contract)
* 2 years/$6.2M (2004-05)
o 04:$2.8M, 05:$3.4M
o avoided arbitration 12/03
* 1 year/$1.7M (2003), re-signed 12/02
* agent: Eric Goldschmidt
* ML service: 8.034

Bronson Arroyo p
3 years/$11.25M (2006-08)
2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option

* 2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
o $2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)
o 09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
o 2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
o agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal
o signed extension 2/07
* 3 years/$11.25M (2006-08)
o acquired in trade 3/06, with Boston also paying $1.5M to Cincinnati
o avoided arbitration 1/06 ($4.2M-$2.95M)
o $0.75M signing bonus
o 06:$2.75M, 07:$3.8M, 08:$3.95M
o $0.325M performance bonus with 210 IP in 2008
* 1 year/$1.85M (2005), re-signed 1/05, avoided arbitration
* 1 year/$0.3325M (2004)
* agent: Gregg Clifton, Terry Bross, Gaylord Sports Management
* ML service: 4.150

Ryan Freel inf
2 years/$3M (2006-07)
2 years/$7M (2008-09)

* signed extension 4/07
* 08:$3M, 09:$4M
* performance bonuses based on PAs (up to $0.5M in 2008)
* 2 years/$3M (2006-07)
o signed extension 12/05
o 06:$1.3M, 07:$1.7M ($2.35M with PA bonus)
o 2007 salary increases:
+ by $0.3M (to $2M) with 200 PAs in 2006
+ by $0.95M (to $2.65M) with 650 PAs in 2006
* 1 year/$0.45M (2005)
* 1 year/$0.32M (2004), re-signed 3 /04
* agent: Tommy Tanzer, CSMG
* ML service: 3.140

David Weathers p
2 years/$5M (2007-08)

* re-signed as a free agent 12/06
* 07:$2.25M, 08:$2.75M
* $0.8M in performance bonuses based on GF (between 35 & 65 GF)
* 1 year/$1.35M (2005), plus 2006 club option
o 05:$1.25M, 06:$1.25M club option ($0.1M buyout)
o 2006 option vests at:
+ $1.25M with 55 g in 2005
+ $1.3M with 60 g in 2005
+ $1.4M with 65 g in 2005
+ $1.5M with 70 g in 2005 (appeared in 73 g)
o signed as a free agent 12/04
* 3 years/$9.4M (2002-04)
o $1M signing bonus
o 02:$1.5M, 03:$3.3M, 04:$3.6M
o $0.1M for 70, 75, 80 g, up to $0.75M for GF
* 2 years/$1.85M (2000-01)
* agent: Dan Horwits
* ML service: 12.044
* drafted 2006 (2-52), $0.67M signing bonus
* ML service: 13.044

Jeff Conine of-1b
1 year/$1.7M (2006), plus $2M 2007 mutual option

* $2M 2007 option vested with 539 PAs in 2006
* acquired in trade 8/06
o $1.16M remaining on contract, including remaining base salary, performance bonuses & assignment (trade) bonus
o may earn additional $0.35M in performance bonuses
o Baltimore paid Philadelphia more than $0.5M as part of the deal
* signed as a free agent 12/05
* 06:$1.7M, 07:$2M mutual option
* 2007 option vests with 450 Plate Appearances in 2006 (Conine retains right to void the option if it vests)
* $0.75M in performance bonuses
o $0.2M in performance bonuses based on games, including:
+ $25,000 for 80 g
+ $0.1M for 140 g
o up to $0.55M in performance bonuses for PAs 200-550
* $0.25M assignment bonus if traded in 2006 or 2007
* 2 years/$9.25M (2003-04), plus $4.75M 2005 club option
o 03:$4.25M, 04:$4.75M, 05:$4.75M club option ($0.25M buyout)
* 2 years/$5.75M (2000-01), plus $3.5M 2002 club option (picked up 11/01)
o 00:$2.5M, 01:$3M
* agent: Michael Watkins
* ML service: 14.079

Mike Stanton p
2 years/$5.5M (2007-08), plus $2.5M 2009 club option

* signed as a free agent 11/06
* 07:$2M, 08:$3M, 09:$2.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)
* 2009 option guaranteed at $2.75M with 140 appearances 2007-08
* 1 year/$1M (2006), signed as a free agent 12/05
* 3 years/$9M (2003-05)
o 03:$2M, 04:$3M, 05:$4M
o signed as a free agent 7/05
o DFA 6/05
o Mets paid $0.975M of $4M 2005 salary in 12/04 trade to Yankees
* 3 years/$7.35M (2000-02)
o 00:$2.4M, 01:$2.45M, 02:$2.5M
* ML service: 17.039

David Ross c
2 years/$4.5M (2007-08), plus $3.5M 2009 club option

* re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration)
* 07:$1.6M, 08:$2.525M, 09:$3.5M club option ($0.375M buyout)
* 1 year/$0.5M (2006), re-signed 12/05
o $25,000 performance bonus for starting 85 games
* 1 year/$0.3385M (2005), re-signed 2/05
* 1 year/$0.31M (2004), re-signed 3 /04
* ML service: 4.001

Scott Hatteberg c-1b
1 year/$1.65M (2007), plus $1.85M club option

* signed extension 7/06
* 07:$1.5M, 08:$1.85M club option ($0.15M buyout)
* $0.15M annually in possible incentives
o $50,000 each for 500, 550 & 600 PAs
* with 500 PAs in 2007, 2008 club option to $2M with a $0.175M buyout
* 1 year/$0.75M (2006)
o signed as a free agent 2/06
o may earn $0.25M in incentives based on PAs
* 2 years/about $5M (2004-05), plus 2006 club option
o A's declined $2.7M 2006 club option 11/05
o received unspecified signing bonus 2004, signed 7/03
o 04:$2.3M, 05:$2.45M, 06: club option at about $2.7M
* 1 year/$1M (2002), plus $1.4M 2003 club option (picked up 10/02)
* 1 year/$1.05M (2001)
* ML service: 10.070

Javier Valentin c
1 year/$1.325M (2007), plus $1.3M 2008 club option

* signed extension 8/06
* 07:$1.25M, 08:$1.3M club option ($75,000 buyout)
* 2008 option may increase to
o $1.35M, with 250 plate appearances in 2007
o $1.4M, with 300 plate appearances in 2007
* 1 year/$1.15M (2006)
o re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
* 1 year/$0.45M (2005), re-signed 11/04
* 1 year/$0.5M (2004) (minor-league contract), signed as a free agent 1/04
* 1 year/$0.305M (2003)
* ML service: 6.036

Juan Castro inf
2 years/$2M (2007-08), plus $1.1M 2009 club option

* signed extension 9/06, replacing 2007 club option
o 07:$0.925M, 08:$0.975M, 09:$1.1M club option ($0.1M buyout)
o performance bonuses: $50,000 each for 400, 450 & 500 PAs
* 2 years/$2.05M (2005-06), plus $1M 2007 club option
o 05:$1M, 06:$1M, 07:$1M club option ($50,000 buyout)
o option voids with 500 PAs in 2006
o 2007 option may increase to $1.2M & buyout to $0.1M
o $0.25M in performance bonuses in 2005 & 2006
+ $25,000 each for 300 & 350 PAs
+ $50,000 each for 400 & 450 PAs
+ $0.1M for 500 PAs
o signed as a free agent 11/04
* 1 year/$1M (2004)
* 1 year/$0.8M (2003)
* 1 year/$0.4M (2002)
* agent: Oscar Suarez
* ML service: 10.024

Mark Bellhorn 2b
1 year (2007)

* contract purchased 7/31/07
* signed as a free agent 1/07 (minor-league contract)
* 1 year/$0.8M (2006)
o released (by San Diego) 10/06
o signed as a free agent 12/05
* 1 year/$2.75M (2005), re-signed 1/05, avoided arbitration
o free agent 10/05 after declining outright assignment to AAA
o signed as a free agent 8/05 after being waived, DFA (by Boston)
* 1 year/$0.49M (2004), re-signed as a free agent 11/03
* 1 year/$0.365M (2003)
* ML service: 6.117

Eddie Guardado p
1 year/$0.5M (2007), plus 2008 club option

* contract purchased 4/07
* re-signed as a free agent 2/07 (minor-league contract)
* 07: $0.5M on major-league roster, 08:$3M club option
* $1.4M in roster bonuses
* $1.2M in performance bonuses
* 2008 option may increase to as much as $7M based on 2007 statistics
* 1 year/$4M (2004), plus 2005 & 2006 options
o 04:$4M, 05:$6M club option or $4M player option, 06:$6.25M club option or $4.25M player option (with about $1.25M in additional incentives)
o acquired in trade 7/06, with Seattle paying about $2.5M of remaining 2006 salary of $6.25M as part of the deal
o Seattle exercised $6.25M club option 11/05
o Guardado exercised $4M 2005 player option 11/04
o $1M annually in performance bonuses based on GF
+ $0.1M for 25 GF
+ $0.15M for each additional 5 GF (30,35,40,45,50,55)
o limited no-trade clause allowing Guardado to block deals to 10 clubs, including Boston & both New York teams
o signed as a free agent 12/03
* 2 years/$3.6M (01-02), plus 03 club option (exercised 10/02)
o 01:$1.8M, 02:$1.8M, 03:$2.7M club option or $1.4M player option
* agent: Kevin Kohler
* ML service: 12.141

Victor Santos p
1 year (2007)

* contract purchased 7/27/07
* contract purchased 4/07, DFA 6/29/07, sent outright to AAA 7/5/07
* signed as a free agent 1/07 (minor-league contract)
* 1 year/$0.5M (2006)
o refused outright assignment (by Pittsburgh) 10/06
o selected in Rule 5 draft (from KC) 12/05
o signed as a free agent 11/05 (minor-league contract)
* 1 year/$0.42M (2005), re-signed 2/05
* contract purchased 3/04
* ML service: 3.065

Jorge Cantu 2b
1 year/$0.41M (2007)

* acquired in trade (from Tampa Bay) 7/28/07
* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year/$0.3558M (2006), re-signed 3/06
* 1 year/$0.3169M (2005), re-signed 1/05
* ML service: 2.079

Todd Coffey p
1 year/$0.4075M (2007)
1 year/$0.925M (2008)

* signed extension 4/07
* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year/$0.339M (2006), re-signed 2/06
* 1 year (2005)
* ML service: 1.160

Edwin Encarnacion 3b
1 year/$0.4075M (2007)

* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year/$0.3325M (2006), re-signed 2/06
* drafted 2000 (9-274), $55,000 signing bonus
* ML service: 1.085

Brandon Phillips ss
1 year/$0.4075M (2007)

* renewed 3/07 (split contract paying $196,200 in minors)
* 1 year (2006)
o cquired in trade after being DFA 4/06
o renewed 3/06
* 1 year/$0.3168M (2005)
o re-signed 2/05
o split contract paying $162,000 in minors
* 1 year/$0.3009M (2003) 3/03
* agent: Levinson brothers
* ML service: 2.022

Matt Belisle p
1 year/$0.39M (2007)

* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year/$0.3435M (2006), re-signed 3/06
* 1 year/$0.316M (2005)
* ML service: 2.026

Elizardo Ramirez p
1 year/$0.39M (2007)

* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
* 1 year (2005)
* ML service: 1.022

Bill Bray p
1 year/$0.3825M (2007)

* contract purchased 6/06
* drafted 2004 (1-13), $1.75M signing bonus
* agent: Bobby Witt, CSMG
* ML service: 0.122

Jeff Keppinger inf
1 year/$0.3825M (2007)

* signed 3/07
* acquired in trade (from KC) 1/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06
o DFA 12/06
* 1 year (2005), re-signed 3/05
* drafted 2001 (4-114)
* ML service: 0.069 (through 2005)

Homer Bailey p
2007

* contract purchased 6/8/07
* drafted 2004 (1-7), $2.3M signing bonus
* agent: Hendricks Sports
* ML service: 0.000

Jared Burton p
1 year/$0.38M (2007)

* signed 2/07
* selected # 15 (from Oakland) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
* drafted 2002 (8-248)
* ML service:

Jon Coutlangus p
1 year/$0.38M (2007)

* re-signed 2/07
* 1 year (2006)
o claimed off waivers (from SF) after being DFA 3/06
o re-signed 3/06
* contract purchased 11/05
* drafted 2003 (19-573)
* ML service: 0.000

Chris Dickerson of
1 year (2007)

* re-signed 2/07
* contract purchased 11/06
* drafted 2003 (16-471)
* ML service: 0.000

Phil Dumatrait p
1 year (2007)

* re-signed 2/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
* drafted 2000 (1-22), $1.275M signing bonus
* ML service: 0.000

Jerry Gil inf
1 year/$0.38M (2007)

* signed 2/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
o acquired in trade (from Arizona) 10/06
* 1 year/$0.318M (2005)
o sent outright to AAA 11/05
* ML service: 0.130

Mike Gosling p
1 year (2007)

* contract purchased 6/17/07
* re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
o DFA 9/06
o claimed off waivers after being DFA by Arizona 2/06
* 1 year/$0.3175M (2005)
* drafted 2001 (2-66), $2M signing bonus
* ML service: 0.092

Josh Hamilton of
1 year/$0.38M (2007)

* signed 2/07
* acquired in trade (from Chicago Cubs) 12/06
* drafted # 3 (from Tampa Bay) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
* sent outright to minors 11/05
* suspended indefinitely 3/04 for violations of MLB substance abuse policy
* drafted 1999 (1-1), $3.96M signing bonus
* agent: Casey Close
* ML service:

Norris Hopper inf-of
1 year/$0.38M (2007)

* re-signed 3/07
* contract purchased 8/06
* drafted 1998 (8-227)
* ML service: 0.043

Bobby Livingston p
1 year (2007)

* signed 3/07
* claimed off waivers (from Seattle) 12/06 (MLB voided Tampa Bay's waiver claim & subsequent trade to Philadelphia)
* 1 year (2006)
o DFA 12/06
o contract purchased 11/05
* drafted 2001 (4-129)
* agent: CSMG
* ML service: 0.021

Pedro Lopez inf
1 year (2007)

* claimed off waivers (from Chicago White Sox) 5/21/07
* re-signed 2/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
* 1 year (2005), re-signed 2/05
* agent: CSMG
* ML service: 0.009

Gary Majewski p
1 year (2007)

* re-signed 3/07
* 1 year/$0.352M (2006), re-signed 2/06
* 1 year (2005), re-signed 2/05
* re-signed 3/04
* returned from TOR 3/03 after being selected in Rule 5 draft 12/02
* ML service: 2.039

Marcus McBeth p
1 year (2007)

* acquired in trade (from Oakland) 4/07
* re-signed 3/07
* contract purchased 11/06
* drafted 2001 (4-131)
* ML service: 0.000

Brad Salmon p
1 year (2007)

* signed 2/07
* contract purchased 10/06
* drafted 1999 (21-638)
* ML service: 0.000

Alexander Smit p
1 year (2007)

* signed 3/07
* claimed off waivers (from Minnesota) 7/12/07
* contract purchased 11/06
* signed 2002 as amateur free agent from the Netherlands
* ML service: 0.000

Joey Votto 1b
1 year (2007)

* re-signed 2/07
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
* contract purchased 11/05
* drafted 2002 (2-44), $0.6M signing bonus
* ML service: 0.000


Minor leagues

Tim Bausher p
2007

* acquired in trade 8/06
* re-signed 1/06 after being DFA (minor-league contract)
* 1 year (2005)
* claimed off waivers 12/04
* ML service:

Jay Bruce of
2007

* drafted 2005 (1-12), $1.8M signing bonus
* agent: Sosnick-Cobbe
* ML service:

Bubba Crosby of
1 year/$0.4M (2007)

* sent outright to AAA 3/07
* signed as free agent 11/06 (split contract, $75,000 in minors)
* 1 year/$354,250 (2006)
o DFA, sent outright to AAA 8/06
* 1 year/$322,950 (2005)
* 1 year/$0.3014M (2004)
* ML service: 2.075

Enrique Cruz inf
2007

* DFA 4/07, sent outright to AA 5/25/07
* contract purchased 4/07
* 1 year (2003)
o selected by Milwaukee (from NY Mets) in Rule 5 draft 12/02
* signed 1998 as amateur free agent from Dominican Republic
* ML service:

Johnny Cueto p
2007

* signed as an amateur free agent (from Dominican Republic) 2004
* ML service:

Rafael Gonzalez p
2007

* drafted 2004 (4-108), $0.315M signing bonus
* ML service:

Paul Janish ss
2007

* drafted 2004 (5-138), $0.21M signing bonus
* ML service:

Milton Loo ss
2007

* drafted 2004 (9-272) (draft & follow), $0.2M signing bonus
* ML service:

Devin Mesoraco c
2007

* signed 6/22/07
* drafted 2007 (1-15) (Punxsatawney PA HS), $1.4M signing bonus
* ML service:

Chad Moeller c
1 year/$0.7M (2007)

* contract purchased 7/12/07, sent outright to AAA 7/31/07
* DFA 7/3/07, sent outright to AAA 7/5/07
* contract purchased 5/15/07
* DFA, sent outright to AAA 4/07
* signed as a free agent 11/06
* 1 year/$0.7M (2006) (Milwaukee)
o elected free agency 10/06
o sent outright to AAA 7/06
o re-signed 11/05
* 1 year/$0.7M (2005), re-signed 11/04
* 1 year/$0.37M (2004), re-signed 2/04
* 1 year/$0.3M (2003)
* agent: Alan Meersand
* ML service: 5.023

Tyler Pelland p
2007

* acquired in trade 8/03
* drafted 2002 (9-268), $0.24M signing bonus
* ML service:

Miguel Perez c
1 year (2007)

* re-signed (minor-league contract) after being non-tendered 12/06
* re-signed 3/06
* signed 2000 as undrafted free agent from Venezuala
* ML service: 0.028

Kirk Saarloos p
1 year/$1.2M (2007)

* sent outright to AAA 7/27/07
* re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration, $1.475M-$0.925M)
* 1 year/$0.354M (2006), re-signed 3/06
* 1 year (2005), contract purchased 4/05
* signed as a free agent 2005 (min0r-league contract)
* ML service: 3.135

Ricky Stone p
2007

* contract purchased 7/18/07, sent outright to AAA 7/23/07
* contract purchased 6/29/07, DFA 7/7/07
* signed for 2007 (minor-league contract)
* 1 year (2005)
o signed as a free agent 11/04 (minor-league contract)
o contract purchased 5/05, sent outright to AAA 7/05
* 1 year/$0.395M (2004)
o DFA 6/04, claimed off waivers (from Houston) 6/04
o sent outright to AAA 10/04
* 1 year/$0.325M (2003), signed 2/03
* 1 year/$0.2M (2002), signed 3/02
o contract purchased 9/01
* ML service: 2+

Drew Stubbs of
2007

* drafted 2006 (1-8), $2M signing bonus
* ML service:

B.J. Szymanski of
2007

* drafted 2004 (2-48), $0.725M signing bonus
* ML service:

Craig Tatum c
2007

* drafted 2004 (3-78), $0.45M signing bonus
* ML service:

Daryl Thompson p
2007

* drafted 2003 (8-237), $80,000 signing bonus
* ML service:

Chris Valaika ss
2007

* drafted 2006 (3-84), $0.4375M signing bonus
* ML service:

Sean Watson p
2007

* drafted 2006 (2-52), $0.67M signing bonus
* ML service:

Dewayne Wise of
1 year (2007)

* contract purchased 5/29/07, DFA 6/4/07
* re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
* 1 year (2006)
o contract purchased 9/06, sent outright to AAA 10/06
o contract purchased 7/06, DFA, sent outright to AAA 8/06
o signed as a free agent 11/05 (minor-league contract)
* 1 year (2005)
o sent outright to AAA 2/05
* 1 year/$0.325M (2004)
o signed as a free agent 1/04
o claimed off waivers 10/04
* ML service: 2.094

Travis Wood p
2007

* signed 6/05
* drafted 2005 (2-60), $0.6M signing bonus
* ML service:

KronoRed
08-01-2007, 12:00 PM
Almost all of the new found cash from Milton and ext leaving will go to arbitration raises

Chip R
08-01-2007, 12:42 PM
Also, Gosling showed he only had .092 service time coming into the year. Not that it matters, because I couldn't see him getting anything anyway.



I was getting the experience off ESPN's website. It doesn't have service time but goes by experience. So I guess if someone spent a day in the majors, that would be one year's experience. Where are you getting your info?

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
I was getting the experience off ESPN's website. It doesn't have service time but goes by experience. So I guess if someone spent a day in the majors, that would be one year's experience. Where are you getting your info?

From where WOY got his. I believe Cot's.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 12:51 PM
Mike Gosling p
1 year (2007)

* contract purchased 6/17/07
* re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
* 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
o DFA 9/06
o claimed off waivers after being DFA by Arizona 2/06
* 1 year/$0.3175M (2005)
* drafted 2001 (2-66), $2M signing bonus
* ML service: 0.092

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Almost all of the new found cash from Milton and ext leaving will go to arbitration raises

Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.

KronoRed
08-01-2007, 12:55 PM
Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.

Hey..the Reds aren't made of money :D

dougdirt
08-01-2007, 01:01 PM
Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.

No, but add in the raises for Arroyo and Harang which is over 5 million and Miltons money is already gone.

RedsManRick
08-01-2007, 01:35 PM
Just want to provide WoY's source for everybody: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/cincinnati-reds_24.html

Very well organized, great info.

Chip R
08-01-2007, 01:37 PM
From where WOY got his. I believe Cot's.


Ah, thanks a bunch. You too, WOY. :)

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 01:57 PM
This is what I'm seeing. It looks like there should be plenty of money to go around, even without a bump in payroll. A slight bump would be enough to retain all players under contract with raises to Phillips and Belisle ($5M? total) and a signing of a quality free agent.


Raises:
Dunn +$2.5 M (I think he's at $10.5M this year)
Harang +$2.5 M
Freel +$1.3 M
Gonzo +$1.125 M
Stanton +$1 M
Ross +$925 K
Coffey +$570 K
Weathers +$500 K
Hatteberg +$350 K (if option is picked up)
Castro +$50 K
Valentin +$50 K (if option is picked up)

Raises per arbitration:
Phillips ?
Belisle ?

So far, that adds up to $10.870 M in raises + Phillips and Belisle. That's with picking up the options on Hatteberg and Valentin (doubtful for both). As for Arroyo, I show him at $3.8 M for 2007 and $3.95 M for 2008, before going to $9.5 M in 2009, so only see him getting a raise of $150 K for 2008. I'm sure this is wrong.


Now coming off the books:

Milton -$9 M
Lohse - $4.2 M
LaRue -$2.95 M
Cormier -$2.25M
Conine -$2M
Saarloos -$1.2 M
Moeller -$700 K

total: -$21.6 M



Please feel free to let me know of any errors I have made.

TOBTTReds
08-01-2007, 02:06 PM
Now coming off the books:

Milton -$9 M
Lohse - $4.2 M
LaRue -$2.95 M
Cormier -$2.25M
Conine -$2M
Saarloos -$1.2 M
Moeller -$700 K

total: -$21.6 M



Please feel free to let me know of any errors I have made.

So there is about $10 mil open if we don't raise the bar at all.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-01-2007, 02:15 PM
So there is about $10 mil open if we don't raise the bar at all.

They still have to pay Phillips and Belisle, plus I think I may have the Arroyo numbers wrong. I would think the numbers is closer to $5 Mil.

Red Leader
08-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Arroyo is $6.45M in 2008 (but maybe just $3.95M if they've already paid the signing bonus this year). Was previously $3.95m before he signed the extension:


Bronson Arroyo:

Signed 2-year EXTENSION worth $25M thru 2010 season- + as part of the extension, his 2008 salary is increase to $6.45M in 2008 via a $2.5M signing bonus- + as part of the extension, he agrees to eliminate clause in previous deal that allowed him to earn salary escalators for 2008 via IP in 2007 and performance bonuses during 2008 season- + he receives salaries of $9.5M in 2009 and $11M in 2010- + the deal includes a team option for 2011 worth $11M or a $2M buyout- + the value of the option can rise up to $13M based on innings pitched in previous years- + 2005 salary: $1.85M (+ $75K in performance bonuses)

KronoRed
08-01-2007, 02:53 PM
They still have to pay Phillips and Belisle, plus I think I may have the Arroyo numbers wrong. I would think the numbers is closer to $5 Mil.

Yep, and what does 5 mil get us? maybe some useful spares but not the big SP's this team is in desperate need of

mth123
08-01-2007, 08:14 PM
Yep, and what does 5 mil get us? maybe some useful spares but not the big SP's this team is in desperate need of

That is why the deadline was so important. Decline Javy and Hatte and that is $3 Million more (and it means nothing in return for Hatte since he wasn't dealt). Dump Freel, Stanton and Gonzalez (going with Lopez and Keppinger and whatever minor leaguer that could be acquired) and that is $11 Million more and some decent money ($19 Million) to play with while still retaining Harang, Arroyo, Weathers, Dunn, Griffey, EdE, Phillips, Ross and Hamilton some cheap pitchers for low leverage roles and Bailey, Cueto, Votto and Bruce all on the verge.

The Reds needed to do some subtraction at the deadline. Good deals for Griffey or Weathers leading to additions would have been gravy IMO.