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texasdave
08-13-2007, 08:41 PM
Louisville and Indianapolis are scoreless after two. Elizardo on the mound for the Bats. He has given up 3 hits and struck out one.

texasdave
08-13-2007, 08:42 PM
It appears as though Chattanooga has the night off. The Lookouts are in second place in their division, three games off the pace set by Huntsville. Huntsville won the first half, so maybe the second place team in the second half also makes the playoffs. I really am not sure how that works.

texasdave
08-13-2007, 08:45 PM
Sarasota is also taking the night off. In the second half they are now in 5th place in their division. They have already won the first half, which makes them playoff bound.

Blue
08-13-2007, 08:53 PM
The GCL Reds were beaten by the GCL Red Sox 3-2.

Devin Mesoraco 1-3 with a single and HBP.

dougdirt
08-13-2007, 09:24 PM
Louisville leads 2-1. Jay Bruce has a ground rule double and an RBI.

Blue
08-13-2007, 09:42 PM
Is Gameday getting ready to say catcher's interference?

Blue
08-13-2007, 09:45 PM
Guess not. I assumed that was how the Indy catcher hurt his hand.

Jeff Bannon grand slam.

Redman15
08-13-2007, 09:47 PM
Dragons up 3-0. Phipps 1-1 RBI. Turner 1-2 RBI. Esquer SF.

Prf15
08-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Votto: 1-4 with a HR(17), BB
Cantu: 2-5, 3 RBI
Bruce: 2-5, 2B

texasdave
08-13-2007, 10:54 PM
Billings is scoreless early. Brett Bartles tripled in the first for the Mustangs. He is quietly having a nice rookie season. He started at GCL but was bumped up early to Billings. OBP .384
SLG .500 OPS .884 to date (not including his triple).

He plays 3b and was drafted in the 30th round out of Duke.

CTA513
08-14-2007, 12:57 AM
I don't know how long it will continue, but Cantu has been hitting pretty well since joining the Louisville Bats.

.333 AVG (23 for 69)
7 Doubles
1 Home run
10 RBIs
3 BB
8 K

AmarilloRed
08-14-2007, 02:50 AM
I look forward to seeing Votto , Cantu and Bruce in September.

icehole3
08-14-2007, 07:35 AM
Bartles is another of many very very hard hitters we drafted this year. I hope next year we focus on pitching.

Blue
08-14-2007, 11:23 AM
I hope we take the best players available.

puca
08-14-2007, 02:05 PM
I don't know how long it will continue, but Cantu has been hitting pretty well since joining the Louisville Bats.

.333 AVG (23 for 69)
7 Doubles
1 Home run
10 RBIs
3 BB
8 K

His walk rate tells me he will never be as valuable as the Reds announcers and a large portion of the fan base will think. In the majors he will continue to make outs 70% of the time and be a drag on the offense. If only he had a better glove or would be content coming off the bench.

AmarilloRed
08-14-2007, 02:30 PM
He does strike out a lot, and walks very little. He always has has had a very low OBP. However if he can hit for a high average, that will help his OBP. Keppinger does not walk very much, but he has a high OBP because of his hiiting. He has a high OBP because of his BA right now, but I would not expect that to continue.

puca
08-14-2007, 03:41 PM
Without walks he would have to hit like Tony Gwynn to be what this team needs.

What the Reds are in dire need of is players at the top of the order that can get on base. Cantu is not one of those guys. In fact, if he plays it will likely be at the expense of someone that is better at it. To me Cantu represents what is wrong with the direction this organization is taking and why I fear the future of the Red's offense.

11larkin11
08-14-2007, 04:10 PM
Actually, we have 5 guys with an OBP of .360+. We don't need more OBP guys, we need guys who will hit with RISP to get those guys in.

puca
08-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Actually, we have 5 guys with an OBP of .360+. We don't need more OBP guys, we need guys who will hit with RISP to get those guys in.

Not sure which 5 you are talking about, but:

Hamilton, Hopper and Keppinger suffer from small sample size. In the case of Hopper and Kepp, their OBPs are extreemly BA driven, so unless you believe they are .320+ hitters, neither are likely to keep their OBP above .350. In addition Hopper plays the same position as 3 guys with higher OBP(Hamilton/Dunn/Griffey).

Hatteberg is a platoon player. Its nice when he is in the lineup, but he's not going to be there everyday. He might be a bench player next year and likely not with the Reds in 2009.

Griffey and Dunn are the highest OBP guys (unless you believe Kepp is a .350+ hitter), but they are the middle-of-the-order hitters and unlikely to be here past 2009.

If Cantu forces his way into the lineup, it will be at 3b or 1b. That means likely either Hatteberg or Keppinger will not be.

puca
08-14-2007, 05:15 PM
In fact by my calculations the Reds are 10th in the NL in OBP and 7th in Runs scored. That tells me they are actually pretty good at driving runners in. They just aren't get runners on base nearly enough.

GoReds33
08-14-2007, 10:29 PM
I agree that Cantu isn't much when it comes to obp. I think he does give the club an insurance policy though if Votto, or Edwin were to crumble. Keppinger fits in the same role.

puca
08-14-2007, 10:49 PM
I don't hate him as a bench player or AAA insurance. I just don't think he would be content in that role.