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zipcurve
08-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Any idea which players will be going to the Arizona Fall League?

Triples
08-16-2007, 12:01 PM
If its been decided, I don't think the players have been notified yet. The Reds normally wait until the last week of the minor league season to make those announcements.

texasdave
08-16-2007, 01:04 PM
Do they normally send players that were drafted in that year's draft? I.E. - the players from the June draft? If they do, would it make sense to send some of the people that recently signed such as Frazier and Hildenbrandt? Or do they normally send players that they feel are close to helping the big club?

dougdirt
08-16-2007, 01:09 PM
No. Usually its guys from Sarasota or Chattanooga that get to go play in the AFL.

RedsManRick
08-16-2007, 01:26 PM
So, candidates?

Josh Roenicke, Miguel Perez, Chris Valaika, Danny Dorn, Sean Watson, Carlos Fisher, Johnny Cueto, Travis Wood, Daryl Thompson, B. J. Szymanski?

jmcclain19
08-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Do they normally send players that were drafted in that year's draft? I.E. - the players from the June draft? If they do, would it make sense to send some of the people that recently signed such as Frazier and Hildenbrandt? Or do they normally send players that they feel are close to helping the big club?

Sometimes players straight out of the draft go - Luke Hochevar is an immediate one that comes to mind - but none of the Reds picks are that close to the majors.

jmcclain19
08-16-2007, 01:40 PM
So, candidates?

Josh Roenicke, Miguel Perez, Chris Valaika, Danny Dorn, Sean Watson, Carlos Fisher, Johnny Cueto, Travis Wood, Daryl Thompson, B. J. Szymanski?

Couple from that list - and the Reds usually send a couple of non-prospects as well for reasons I never understand.

dougdirt
08-16-2007, 01:43 PM
Couple from that list - and the Reds usually send a couple of non-prospects as well for reasons I never understand.

Hope to build up trade value if they catch fire at the right time?

redsmetz
08-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Just to give you some idea, here's who went last year, from the Reds news archive -



Cody Strait may not be the most experienced Cincinnati Reds prospect playing in the Arizona Fall League, but he's out to prove that he's among the most talented.
The 23-year-old from Texas displayed his five-tool skills last year for Class A Advanced Sarasota, hitting .258 with 17 homers, 74 RBIs and 50 stolen bases in 131 games. But playing in the Florida State League is a different experience than facing off against the more advanced competition in the AFL.

It's early, but Strait hasn't been intimidated thus far. The 12th-round selection in the 2004 draft collected seven hits in his first 21 at-bats, leading all Reds prospects in the AFL this week. He went 2-for-5 with a double, stolen base and a run scored in Phoenix's 14-6 win over the Peoria Seguaros on Monday.

Here's how the other Reds farmhands performed during the week of Oct. 11-17:

LHP Jonathan Coutlangus -- Coutlangus shut down opposing batters this week, tossing three scoreless innings in three outings. The southpaw from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., allowed just two hits, none to left-handed batters.

LHP Phil Dumatrait -- Dumatrait started Phoenix's 7-3 win over Scottsdale on Oct. 12, allowing a run on three hits and a walk, while striking out one in two innings. It was the left-hander's first outing of the AFL.

2B Drew Anderson -- Anderson has struggled out of the gate, managing one hit with four strikeouts in his first nine at-bats.

OF Javon Moran -- Moran went 1-for-14 with four strikeouts in four games.

RHP Tyler Pelland -- Pelland tossed 2 1/3 scoreless frames in Phoenix's 11-8 loss to Scottsdale on Oct. 13. He gave up two hits but did not walk a batter while striking out one.

RHP Calvin Medlock-- After tossing a perfect inning in his AFL debut on Oct. 11, Medlock faltered in his last two outings, surrendering three runs in 3 1/3 frames.

From an old Marc Lancaster blog, here's who went in 2005:


The Reds have selected the six players that will represent the organization in the prestigious Arizona Fall League.

Outfielder Chris Denorfia (Louisville), infielders Kevin Howard (Chattanooga) and Joey Votto (Sarasota), catcher Ryan Hanigan (Chattanooga) and relievers Allan Simpson (Louisville) and Bubba Nelson (Chattanooga) will make the trip to the desert.

GoReds33
08-16-2007, 04:27 PM
I see Drew Stubbs there as well. He needs alot of work on his hitting.

Redman15
08-16-2007, 04:38 PM
Stubby is probably going to have his toe fixed and most likely will not be playing winter ball at all. What other leagues do the Reds send players? There should be quite a few that have to attend instructs.

Az. Reds Fan
08-16-2007, 04:50 PM
I think teams can only send one prospect from A ball, the rest must come from AA or AAA.

redsmetz
08-16-2007, 04:57 PM
I think teams can only send one prospect from A ball, the rest must come from AA or AAA.

From the AFL site:

Eligibility Rules
The eligibility rules to play in the AFL are simple.

The roster size is 30 players per team.

Each Major League organization is required to provide six players subject to the following requirements:


All Triple-A and Double-A players are eligible, provided the players are on at least a Double-A level roster no later than Aug. 1.
One player below the Double-A level is allowed per Major League team.
One foreign player is allowed, as long as the player does not reside in a country that participates in winter ball, as part of the Caribbean Confederation or the Australian winter league.
No players with more than one year of credited Major League service as of August 31 are eligible, except a team may select one player picked in the most recently concluded Major League Rule 5 Draft.
To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons.

I wonder if they might send Burton?

GoReds33
08-16-2007, 05:20 PM
I wonder if they might send Burton?Why would they do that? We don't want him burnt out next year. I don't really know much about the afl though. Do they throw alot of innings?

camisadelgolf
08-16-2007, 05:24 PM
Burton hasn't really thrown too much this year. I don't think it would hurt too much.

Mario-Rijo
08-16-2007, 05:57 PM
So, candidates?

Josh Roenicke, Miguel Perez, Chris Valaika, Danny Dorn, Sean Watson, Carlos Fisher, Johnny Cueto, Travis Wood, Daryl Thompson, B. J. Szymanski?

I am gonna steal a few of your guys there Rick for my predictions.

Miguel Perez, Dushan Ruzic (unless he isn't eligible due to the Aussie winterball thing), Todd Frazier (our token sub AA guy), Shaun Cumberland, Marcus Mcbeth and Paul Janish or Pedro Lopez assuming we can include him.

texasdave
08-16-2007, 06:31 PM
They might send that enormous pitcher from Australia - Dushan Ruzic. He is currently with Chattanooga. He is already 25 and I suppose they have to fast-track him some. I would think he might be a good candidate.

redsmetz
08-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Burton hasn't really thrown too much this year. I don't think it would hurt too much.

He's only thrown about 25 innings at the ML level this year, plus not quite 20 on rehab assignments down in AA and AAA. Prior to this year, he'd only pitched as high as AA for Oakland, so he could probably use the chance to hone his skills against batters more to his level. I'm not saying it's a given, but he'd fit the descriptions. The other poster could be right though, they may choose to rest him.

mth123
08-16-2007, 07:49 PM
I guess guys who didn't get enough work during the year are probably candidates if they're healthy enough

I'm thinking Travis Wood needs the innings. The catchers will probably be represented by some one (Perez missed half the season), Pedro Lopez might be a candidate with his injury. Beyond those, maybe Paul Janish and Cody Strait to try and get them going again. I doubt we see any of the fantastic four and Carlos Fisher looks like he needs the rest. Maloney could probably use time-off as well. I could see Dorn being the guy they pick to be the big climber. A good AFL could get him on the map after this season.

Aronchis
08-16-2007, 08:17 PM
I would guess players that are close, they may not send. Pelland and Roenicke may be exempt from the Reds POV. Travis Wood, nah. He had a season long ouchie and will only turn 21. Sam Lecure may be a good candidate as would Adam Rosales. Fisher has looked fried since mid-June. Terrell Young is another good candidate

Generally guys sent to the fall league are ones you want to trade or get up to speed after missing some innings.