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Blitz Dorsey
08-16-2007, 08:07 PM
I watched Bull Durham last night for the first time in about 15 years. Always one of my favorites and I remember I watched it so many times that I ruined the tape as a kid. But it bothered me then and it still does that Nook comes up straight from high A-ball to the majors (yeah, I know it's a movie, but I still like my sports movies to be as close to reality as possible).

But it got me to thinking... has this ever happened with the Reds? Very doubtful, but thought I would ask. There are always strange circumstances that could cause something like that. And back in the day when farm teams were just beginning to exist (Branch Rickey -- who else -- was the first to use minor league teams with the Brooklyn Dodgers) many teams only had one minor league team under their umbrella. Having six levels of the minors is a relatively new phenomenon (low rook, high rook, low A, high A, AA, AAA) and I'm sure it has never happened, but just thought I would ask some of the savants on this board to just be sure.

Blitz Dorsey
08-16-2007, 08:11 PM
And no, Josh Hamilton does not count! Neither does Wily Mo. I am talking about a pitcher or position player coming up straight from A-ball in the middle of the year similar to what happened in the movie. They did such a great job with that flick, but why not make it AA just to make it more realistic? Players make the jump directly from AA ball all the time. But high A? Not so much. Unless it is something strange like a player who has to be on the major league roster due to a Rule 5 pickup or something.

Team Clark
08-16-2007, 11:25 PM
Scott Williamson comes to mind

KronoRed
08-16-2007, 11:29 PM
Nope, he spent 98 in AA and AAA
http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/baseball/player.cgi?2276

smith288
08-17-2007, 12:35 AM
Well, didnt Nuxie come straight from High school the first time around so thats quite a jump! :)

cincinnati chili
08-17-2007, 01:03 AM
Can't think of a Red, but Jeremy Bonderman (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/baseball/player.cgi?3215) did it for the Tigers. To this day, I say it hurt his development, and it certainly accelerated his arbitration clock unnecessarily.

The Marlins came close with Dontrelle Willis. They gave him 32 innings in AA, and that was it.

Albert Pujols got only 14 at-bats above A ball, and then made the team out of spring training (and not because Tony LaRussa had the vision to start him, but because Bobby Bonilla got hurt and they needed him).

Justin Verlander got only 32 innings above A ball (same as Wills... eerie).

George Anderson
08-17-2007, 01:05 AM
Don Gullett was drafted out of high school in 1969 and made the opening day roster in 1970. I'm not sure the highest minor league level he played at in 1969 but I cant think it would be to very high.

cincinnati chili
08-17-2007, 01:28 AM
Don Gullett was drafted out of high school in 1969 and made the opening day roster in 1970. I'm not sure the highest minor league level he played at in 1969 but I cant think it would be to very high.

Great call. He played at Sioux Falls in 1969 and went 7-2 with a 1.69 ERA according to:

http://baseballminutia.com/blog/2007/02/12/have-the-reds-ever-had-pitching-howsam-era-act-2/

I don't know what level Sioux Falls was at the time. Probably High A ball.

It's now a Northern League (independent league) city, and I believe they use the same ballpark.

Team Clark
08-17-2007, 01:35 AM
Nope, he spent 98 in AA and AAA
http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/baseball/player.cgi?2276

Thanks for the link. I remember him having a meteoric rise just didn't have time to look up his career path. Great job as always Krono. Gullett was my other pick but that has already been clarified.

Heath
08-17-2007, 07:28 AM
Bill Scherrer made the jump from Tampa to Cincinnati.

He just had 4 stops in the same year - 1982.

RFS62
08-17-2007, 08:39 AM
Gary Nolan pitched 104 innings at Sioux Falls before making the jump at 19 years old.

Nolan and Bench was some kind of battery when they came up.

bucksfan2
08-17-2007, 08:46 AM
What did Mark Prior do? If I remember correctly he was on a fast track to the bigs. Along with Zimmerman who played in the bigs in the same season he was drafted.

chicoruiz
08-17-2007, 10:09 AM
Jeff Jones came close- he made the team out of spring training in 1983 with only a month or two in the Eastern League.

KronoRed
08-17-2007, 01:39 PM
What did Mark Prior do? If I remember correctly he was on a fast track to the bigs. Along with Zimmerman who played in the bigs in the same season he was drafted.

http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/baseball/player.cgi?2726

He got there pretty fast, drafted in 2001 and in the bigs by the middle of 2002

cincinnati chili
08-18-2007, 01:43 AM
The Tigers are at it again. They just promoted Cameron Maybin, after only 14 at bats at double a.