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Joseph
08-17-2007, 11:10 AM
Don't know if this is posted anywhere yet, it didn't come up in a search anyway, but Elizardo is listed as the starter for Saturday now.

BRM
08-17-2007, 11:11 AM
The Post is reporting that Ramirez is the likely starter.

RedsManRick
08-17-2007, 12:02 PM
I like it! Seems like he's been around awhile, but he's just 24. PECOTA had him at a 5.07 ERA for 2007. Certainly has limited upside, but I think he could be a solid, above average, back of the rotation guy on the cheap through his arb years. That said, I'm not quite sure he offers anything we couldn't already get from Belisle. Any whispers of Belisle going back to relief?

fearofpopvol1
08-17-2007, 12:55 PM
At this juncture, it seems that either Belisle or the lizard are better options than Phil D. I'm not convinced any of them are worthy of the rotation, though...

Joseph
08-17-2007, 12:58 PM
At this juncture, it seems that either Belisle or the lizard are better options than Phil D. I'm not convinced any of them are worthy of the rotation, though...

At least last year when EZ went to the mound I didn't expect 7 runs to be surrendered each time. With PD i do.

fearofpopvol1
08-17-2007, 01:54 PM
At least last year when EZ went to the mound I didn't expect 7 runs to be surrendered each time. With PD i do.

No, I agree with you. Phil D is definitely the worst option. I'm just not sure any of those 3 are good enough for any rotation not named the Reds.

mbgrayson
08-17-2007, 03:39 PM
Any whispers of Belisle going back to relief?

Belisle has pitched once now at Louisville. He started, pitched six innings, gave up 4 runs (2 earned), 7 hits, 2 walks, and 7 K's.

Looks like they are keeping him stretched out to start for now....

Rojo
08-17-2007, 08:06 PM
That said, I'm not quite sure he offers anything we couldn't already get from Belisle. Any whispers of Belisle going back to relief?

I think the last part is key. Belisle could really be usefull in the pen. And if you get no fall-off in the rotation by sticking Elizardo in there, its a slam dunk.

Eric_Davis
08-17-2007, 08:06 PM
Keep plugging them out there. Someone will develop.

Highlifeman21
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
It wouldn't be a Reds season until Elizardo Ramirez or DeWayne Wise make an appearance on the 25 man roster.

How we doin so far?

Big Klu
08-18-2007, 01:28 PM
Who goes to make room for the Lizard King? My guess is Phil Dumatrait or Victor Santos.

KronoRed
08-18-2007, 02:40 PM
Anyone but Stanton ;)

JaxRed
08-18-2007, 02:54 PM
I say Santos. If your the Reds you still want to give Phil 2-3 evaluation starts.

Big Klu
08-18-2007, 03:28 PM
I say Santos. If your the Reds you still want to give Phil 2-3 evaluation starts.

I agree. They could designate Santos for assignment, lose him, and still have someone just like him waiting at Louisville if necessary in Kirk Saarloos.

If they send down Dumatrait (who is scheduled to start Monday vs. the Braves), then they would likely have to move Livingston up one day, and recall Belisle for Tuesday's game. (I think Tuesday is the earliest Belisle can be recalled.)

fearofpopvol1
08-18-2007, 03:42 PM
I say Santos. If your the Reds you still want to give Phil 2-3 evaluation starts.

He's already had 3 and 2 of them were absolutely brutal. I'm not sure he's worthy of 2-3 more. I'd give him at least 1 more, but if he implodes again, time to send him back down to 3a.

CTA513
08-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Santos was designated for assignment to make room for Ramirez.

nate
08-18-2007, 05:07 PM
Looks like Lizard is penciled in to be Wednesday's starter, according to Trent.