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CTA513
08-23-2007, 03:45 PM
Reds Braves
Hamilton cf Harris lf
Keppinger ss Johnson 2b
Griffey rf C. Jones 3b
Phillips 2b Teixeira 1b
Dunn lf McCann c
Hatteberg 1b Francoeur rf
Valentin c A. Jones cf
Encarnacion 3b Escobar ss
Ramirez p Carlyle p

Ramirez: 0-1, 3.86 ERA Carlyle: 7-5, 4.66 ERA

Game Time: 7:10 p.m. ET
TV: FSN
Radio: WLW 700

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 03:48 PM
Same lineup.....back to back days!

Prepare for monkeys to fly out of someone's rectal region.


:D

Sea Ray
08-23-2007, 04:00 PM
Would you say tonight is kind of "must win" for the Braves?

Heath
08-23-2007, 04:09 PM
What a sticky, muggy day for a ball game.

Ick.

Puffy
08-23-2007, 04:40 PM
Griffey goes yard tonight.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 04:41 PM
Griffey goes yard tonight.

He's due.

KronoRed
08-23-2007, 04:45 PM
Griffey goes yard tonight.

Twice.

BRM
08-23-2007, 04:50 PM
Optimism in a Reds game thread...I like it!

dabvu2498
08-23-2007, 04:54 PM
What a sticky, muggy day for a ball game.

Ick.

It's been real breezy here today.

It's a hot breeze. But at least the air's moving. Bet it'll be stifiling in that ballpark, though.

nate
08-23-2007, 07:01 PM
The Reds have won 6 out of their last 10 including 6 out of their last 9 against teams with a >.500 record. This could be their 3rd series win in a row.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 07:21 PM
Wow! Keppinger!!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:32 PM
1-0 Braves up after 1, lets see if EZ can shut em out from here on out so the offense can win it.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 07:36 PM
Javy!!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:38 PM
EZ not fooling anyone, but getting some good defense behind him. Hopefully that pumps him up and he can raise his game.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:46 PM
Phillips leadoff single, Dunn deep fly out to left, Hattie a run scoring double, Javy walks.

Runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out, EdE up.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:48 PM
EdE a ground rule double, to dead center, runners at 2nd, 3rd, 1 out, 2-1 Reds, EZ up.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:50 PM
Chipper Jones with a nice play robbing EZ of a double down the line, then throws home to get Javy. Runners on 1st and 3rd, 2 out, Hammie up.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 07:52 PM
Wow. Just absolutely wow.

:hamilton:

:jump:

MrCinatit
08-23-2007, 07:52 PM
Josh Hamilton is pretty good, isn't he?

CrackerJack
08-23-2007, 07:52 PM
Wow, two base running blunders in a row and you get a 3 run homer from Hamilton with 2 strikes. Nice.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:53 PM
Hammie with a 3 run bomb to left center after a base runnign fiasco that I wont even begin to describe, 5-1 Reds. Is it to early to print playoff tickets? :)

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 07:53 PM
Matt, do you happy-face dancing...

Way to go Hamilton.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 07:54 PM
unreal ... took a low and in fastball and homered to LC. Wow

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Gameday shows Keppinger's shot was at the wall.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Keppinger is slumping, now 0-2 on the day :evil:

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Cox tossed :lol:

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Matt, do you happy-face dancing...

Way to go Hamilton.

It's my home run trademark :)

GAC
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Hamilton!

Chat is open! http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/eatdrink003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Gameday shows Keppinger's shot was at the wall.

Carlyle isnt fooling anyone either, wonder how long Cox waits until he goes to the pen, which cant be too well rested.

GAC
08-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Poor Bobby Cox got ejected.

MrCinatit
08-23-2007, 07:57 PM
One of my favorites, Davey "Elmer" Concepcion in the television booth.

Falls City Beer
08-23-2007, 07:59 PM
Elizardo's noggin cracks me up.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 07:59 PM
Quick 7 pitch inning for EZ. Big mashers are up now for the Reds, could be a long night for t-chop fans. Good.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 08:01 PM
It's my home run trademark :)

I love it and look forward to it.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:07 PM
Dunn, eyes as big as watermelons, strikes out on the cheese upstairs. 5-1 heading to the 4th.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:09 PM
Davey with Marty and Jeff, now...

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:10 PM
I think Tex Mex likes it here...

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:10 PM
1-2 pitch to Tex, uh, yeah, 5-2 Reds

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 08:11 PM
I think Tex Mex likes it here...
If he played for our Redlegs he'd probably have a shot at the single season HR record.

BoydsOfSummer
08-23-2007, 08:11 PM
I love me some Dave Concepcion. Poor english and all.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:14 PM
EZ still not fooling anyone, but a lot of early count outs. Even with the 4 pitch homer to Tex, and a 2 pitch single to Andruw, only a 10 pitch inning.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:19 PM
Meanwhile Carlyle gets a 4 pitch inning out of the Reds 6-7-8 hitters. Patience boys, patience. 5-2 through 4, Carlyle 61 pitches, EZ 52 pitches

CTA513
08-23-2007, 08:25 PM
Ramirez is now having trouble throwing strikes this inning.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 08:26 PM
Cox tossed :lol:

There's a pun there, somewhere.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:26 PM
Back to back walks, Chipper up, 1 out. Cmon EZ.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 08:29 PM
oh elizardo...

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:29 PM
That was about as predictable as the sun setting...

CTA513
08-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Good job by Ramirez to let the Braves tie the game.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:30 PM
Nice 3.38 run swing in EZs ERA with one pitch. Get out of this inning tied, and I am happy.

RedsFan75
08-23-2007, 08:31 PM
That was disgusting...

No not the pitch, the fact it sounded like we were in Atlanta!

Well the pitch too.

RedsFan75
08-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Good job magic man

Kc61
08-23-2007, 08:34 PM
Majewski pitching better lately. Bray, Maj, Thompson. What a great trade.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:36 PM
Majewski batting :lol:

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:39 PM
That Keppinger guy keeps right on hitting!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Hello Magic!

http://outlook.nmu.edu/images/carrie_donovan.jpg

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Country Kepp = Next DiMaggio

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:40 PM
Griffey follows with a double, 6-5 Reds.

Falls City Beer
08-23-2007, 08:45 PM
I sure hope this FO isn't tricked by this three-week oasis of good play. Cuz it's a desert talent-wise in this organization. Wayne and Cast are going to have to get on the horse this offseason.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:46 PM
1st pitch pop out by Francoeur, AJones getting nothing but cheese inside, then a breaking pitch away and Jones gets an infield hit ot 3rd.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 08:47 PM
bad luck for Majic...

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:48 PM
two dinkers to 3rd, 1st and 2nd, 1 out.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:52 PM
Now Terry Pendleton is tossed....:lol:

HumnHilghtFreel
08-23-2007, 08:53 PM
:laugh: Thom questioning the use of "bootscooting" in a sentence was one of the funnier things I've heard on a Reds broadcast in a while. I guess he isn't a George Grande connoisseur.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:53 PM
Who was that and where is Mike Stanton? ;)

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 08:54 PM
Who was that and where is Mike Stanton? ;)

Do you really want to know?

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 08:55 PM
Do you really want to know?

Not really...

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Even with this Stanton imposter on the mound, I feel really uneasy.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:04 PM
Welsh just HAD to start talking about the bullpen scoreless innings and so Johnson doubles.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Thanks Stanton.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Welcome back.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:06 PM
If you can get through 1 inning of Mike Stanton...consider yourself lucky.

Trying to get 2 is asking for it.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:06 PM
Did Tex sign an extension upon his arrival at ATL, because I would love to have this guy.

dougdirt
08-23-2007, 09:13 PM
Edwin plays really good defense at times.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 09:14 PM
I sure hope Stanton is around next year. He is an excellent outlet for sarcasm.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Update:
Bray comes in for Stanton with a runner on 2nd, 1 out, Tex up. Tex singles to center, McCann flies out, Francoeur grounds out. 7-6 Braves to the bottom of the 7th.

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Encarnacion with an unreal webgem. What a play.

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Encarnacion homers to left! Tie game 7-7.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Edwin goes yard!

HumnHilghtFreel
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
EdE! Great game for him so far

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
:ede:

:jump:

What a wild game! What a wild series!

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Where are those bouncing smilies?

OnBaseMachine
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
And now EdE homers to tie the game at 7. How many times do you see? A guy ends an inning with a web gem and leads off the next inning with a homer.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:19 PM
And now EdE homers to tie the game at 7. How many times do you see? A guy ends an inning with a web gem and leads off the next inning with a homer.

So often, you expect it.

KittyDuran
08-23-2007, 09:19 PM
Where are those bouncing smilies?When you reply click on the [More] link in the smilies box for more smilies... :)

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:20 PM
on base machine that Jorge Cantu!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:20 PM
Full count to Cantu, over under on him walking?

Hope you took the under, Cantu walks, 0 out.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:22 PM
The baseball gods are upset at Cantus sudden change in philosophy, he is out at 2nd on a Hammie grounder. runner at 1st, 1 out.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:24 PM
If Kepp doesnt Casey here, I have a feeling JR goes deep.

The Baumer
08-23-2007, 09:25 PM
It wasn't surprising that Cantu walked in that situation. I pretty much called it when the pitcher threw his fourth ball.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:25 PM
Kepp GO to 3rd, Hammie to 2nd, now an IBB to JR. runners 1st, 2nd, 2 out, Phillips up.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:26 PM
It wasn't surprising that Cantu walked in that situation. I pretty much called it when the pitcher threw his fourth ball.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Bphil GO to 3rd, heading to the top of the 8th. Burton to pitch the 8th again?

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Burton in to pitch.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:30 PM
When you reply click on the [More] link in the smilies box for more smilies... :)

Thanks, Kitty. I didn't know.

But it was actually more of a request for Matt's "thang-he-does", knowing they'd be there shortly.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 09:31 PM
seems like Burton is getting a little too much work.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:33 PM
Levi!

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 09:33 PM
LEVI!

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 09:33 PM
4-6-3 DP ends the inning. 7-7 mid 8th.

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 09:34 PM
Burton's 3rd day in a row called in for relief and 4th appearance in the Reds' last five games. Fortunately he hasn't thrown all that many pitches in any of his outings.

Either way, I'd probably give him a day off tomorrow even if it's a close game.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:36 PM
seems like Burton is getting a little too much work.

You were saying?

But seriously, I worry about him getting burnt out too. They really need some good, deep SP and soon.

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 09:37 PM
seems like Burton is getting a little too much work.

Burton only threw 7 pitches tonight.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:38 PM
I've only seen a couple of Keppinger plays at SS so far, and he looked a little slow on those plays with and a little slow getting the ball out of his glove.

How was he on the turn of that last double-play?

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Dunn Ks on 96 mph heat from Soriano. Man I wish someone in our pen could bring it like that.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Dunn Ks on 96 mph heat from Soriano. Man I wish someone in our pen could bring it like that.

Burton hits 95...

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 09:40 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 8th. 7-7 after 8.

Harris, Johnson and Chipper due up in the top of the 9th.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:41 PM
Alright, its poll time. Whoe hits the walkoff for the Reds tonight?

I go with JR.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
Alright, its poll time. Whoe hits the walkoff for the Reds tonight?

I go with JR.
Hamilton, his first as a Red.


Uh-oh, here comes Everyday Eddie...

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
This could get ugly. Guardado in for the 9th.

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
Alright, its poll time. Whoe hits the walkoff for the Reds tonight?

I go with JR.

Nobody, because Eddie Guardado is going to lose the game right now. Unfortunately, I'm only about 15 percent joking with that statement too.

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:42 PM
uh oh...

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Eddie Guardado in :eek:

Maybe Mac saw something last game?

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:43 PM
So how good is Jared Burton? Man can that kid pitch!

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:44 PM
How many times have we seen REDS' pitchers with ERA's in the Ten's?

In Eddie's case, it's in the Twenties.

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:45 PM
Harris made him throw some pitches though..

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:45 PM
As Krivsky was saying the other day, the command will eventually come back from after the surgery.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:46 PM
Willie Harris GO.

Eddie bringing it now, up to 89mph.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Here comes to the big bats...

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Willie Harris GO.

Eddie bringing it now, up to 89mph.

HAHAH... as i laugh.. Chipper comes to the plate with a runner on.. CRAP!

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Chipper Jones is a no doubter, first-ballot Hall of Famer.

That much being said, I hope he has a fluke bad swing in this plate appearance and grounds into a double play.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
Facing Chipper Jones and Texeira has got to be as tough of a back-to-back to have to face in all of baseball.

remdog
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm feeling (fearing?) that Eddie's option is going to get picked up to the tune of $3M. (sigh)

Rem

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
I can't believe MacKanin put Eddie in there to face the meat of the line-up

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:50 PM
Close pitches...

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:50 PM
3-1 to Tex... :gulp:

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:50 PM
GOT HIM!

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 09:51 PM
Eddie made my heart stop.. but he did it..

nate
08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
Don't have the game on here, did Eddie look any better than his past couple outings?

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
Wow! Eddie!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
Tex Ks swinging. Nice job by Eddie to fight through that! If this whole bullpen is able to rally together and transform magically into and above average group, well, the Reds might win the Central.***





***DISCLAIMER: No year for winning the Central division is given.***

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
He has no fear.

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
I've only seen a couple of Keppinger plays at SS so far, and he looked a little slow on those plays with and a little slow getting the ball out of his glove.

How was he on the turn of that last double-play?

He looks solid but not particularly fast or smooth.

He has only 1 error at shortstop in 88 chances, for an .989
fielding percentage. He has a .867 RZR. (He has fielded 52 of 60 balls in his zone). He has also fielded 5 balls out of his zone, in 170 innings (1 every 34 innings).

Alex Gonzalez has a .961 fielding percentage, and a .854 RZR.(fielded 193 of 226 balls in his zone). Gonzo has fielded 30 balls out of zone in 784 innings(1 every 26.13 innings).

All told, Keppinger does not seem to be a liability at short so far.

Fielding stats from the Hardball Times (http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=0&season_filter%5B%5D=2007&league_filter%5B%5D=2&pos_filter%5B%5D=6&Submit=Submit).

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
Don't have the game on here, did Eddie look any better than his past couple outings?

Got behind Willie Harris, but got him out on a grounder. Got behind Kelly Johnson and walked him. I'm not sure what the count was to Chipper Jones (1-1 maybe?), but Jones flied out. He got behind Teixeira too, but was able to strike him out on a full count.

Kc61
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
As I said on another thread today, Reds need to get Eddie to take an incentive laden contract for next year. If healthy, he is a fabulous reliever. You can go through 15 minor leaguers before finding somebody as good as Guardado if he has anything left. I'd like to see him back next year after he's recuperated from the surgery.

Falls City Beer
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
He has no fear.

He has nothing to lose.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:54 PM
So, like I said, who hits the walkoff?

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Eddie is a closer. Even with Seattle last year, he sucked in blow-out games. He always thrived under the pressure of close and late games.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
Wow. Nice catch.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
Boo Andruw Jones

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
Gosling Sarloos and Weathers only ones left.

PuffyPig
08-23-2007, 09:56 PM
I think I understand why Eddie was brought in when he was.

The Reds have 3 relievers left.

Eddie and Weathers can likley go 1 inning only.

Sarlooss will be the last guy who will pitch untilthe game is over or his arm falls off (whichever comes first).

So the choice was between Weathers and Eddie, and I think they prefered to us Eddie when the LH hitters were up as opposed to using him in the 10th vs. (likely) RH hitters.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:56 PM
uh-oh....

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:57 PM
Ouch. Josh's ankle turned.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 09:57 PM
free baseball

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 09:58 PM
I think I understand why Eddie was brought in when he was.

The Reds have 3 relievers left.

Eddie and Weathers can likley go 1 inning only.

Sarlooss will be the last guy who will pitch untilthe game is over or his arm falls off (whichever comes first).

So the choice was between Weathers and Eddie, and I think they prefered to us Eddie when the LH hitters were up as opposed to using him in the 10th vs. (likely) RH hitters.

That's probably as good as explanation as any. Now that the game's going to the 10th, the expectation (or hope) is that Weathers is now in to pitch the 10th. If the game goes to the 11th, well better hope for a serious stroke of luck if Gosling and Saarloos are all that's remaining to choose from.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:59 PM
Onward we go!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 09:59 PM
Tom, when did Bowden say what is in your sig?

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 09:59 PM
Saarloos to pitch...

nate
08-23-2007, 10:00 PM
So, like I said, who hits the walkoff?

Duh, Norris Hopper!

;)

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Saarloos to pitch...

I hope that sinker is working.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:01 PM
He looks solid but not particularly fast or smooth.

He has only 1 error at shortstop in 88 chances, for an .989
fielding percentage. He has a .867 RZR. (He has fielded 52 of 60 balls in his zone). He has also fielded 5 balls out of his zone, in 170 innings (1 every 34 innings).

Alex Gonzalez has a .961 fielding percentage, and a .854 RZR.(fielded 193 of 226 balls in his zone). Gonzo has fielded 30 balls out of zone in 784 innings(1 every 26.13 innings).

All told, Keppinger does not seem to be a liability at short so far.

Fielding stats from the Hardball Times (http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=0&season_filter%5B%5D=2007&league_filter%5B%5D=2&pos_filter%5B%5D=6&Submit=Submit).

Thanks so much, MGB!

Now, let's win it in the 10th and send these clowns out of town losers of 3 of 4.

red-in-la
08-23-2007, 10:01 PM
free baseball

I've had a bad day.....this is going to be anything but free.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Hasn't Saarloos allowed something like 10 straight batters to reach base or something?

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Tom, when did Bowden say what is in your sig?
August 2002

I got it from this article: http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/08/02/red_despite_lack_of.html

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Hasn't Saarloos allowed something like 10 straight batters to reach base or something?

Make that 11.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 10:03 PM
majority of Reds relievers are just sad.

Not hard to see why Pete wants to pitch Bray, Burton and Weathers every night.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:03 PM
And the Streak ENDS!

nice DP!

Falls City Beer
08-23-2007, 10:04 PM
majority of Reds relievers are just sad.

Not hard to see why Pete wants to pitch Bray, Burton and Weathers every night.

It's Burton, Weathers, and pray for apocalypse.

red-in-la
08-23-2007, 10:05 PM
Dare you say another begins?

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:07 PM
Dare you say another begins?

:censored:

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:07 PM
Yep, I hope that sinker is working.

remdog
08-23-2007, 10:12 PM
I see that Corkie Miller is in the game.

So now we've had Levi and Abraham. :)

Rem

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:14 PM
JR lines out, so much for the pool.

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:15 PM
I noticed Atlanta's outfielders were all playing right in front of the warning track for Griffey. Since I happened to be at the game last night and tried to pay attention to the Braves' defense, I noticed that they have more defensive positioning amongst their outfielders than pretty much any other team I've seen.

The Reds, on the other hand, have quite minimal defensive positioning amongst their outfielders. They do have some shifting, because I also saw that, but it was just a step or two and not much more.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
That was at his shins....

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
FYI, for all who bash Dunn for his Ks and love Phillips, he (Phillips) now has one less K this year than all of last year in 20 fewer games.

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:19 PM
BTW, more on defensive positioning for the Reds ... when they did shift a bit, it was Dunn relaying information from the dugout over to Hamilton in order to get Josh in the spot where the coaching staff wanted him.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:22 PM
The goal this inning was to leave Chipper Jones in the On-Deck circle.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:23 PM
The goal this inning was to leave Chipper Jones in the On-Deck circle.

Need a DP to accomplish that now.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:25 PM
FYI, for all who bash Dunn for his Ks and love Phillips, he (Phillips) now has one less K this year than all of last year in 20 fewer games.

He's going to have career highs in everything this year.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Nice job Capt. Kirk! Hattie, Valentin, EdE up

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Who'd a thunk it?

We bring in a guy with an ERA of 22.+, and then a guy with an ERA of 8.+, and they pitch 3 innings without giving up a run.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Nice job Capt. Kirk! Hattie, Valentin, EdE up


They got us our first run of the game.

How 'bout they give us our last.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:31 PM
Be a hero, Javy!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:31 PM
Hattie leadoff single. Javy up..

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
JAVY DOUBLES!!!! Runners 2nd and 3rd, 0 out

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
Edwin's turn.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
Here's where the Manager earns his money.

15fan
08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
I can smell 6-1 against the Braves. I can taste it.

C'mon guys. Get it done!

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:34 PM
Settle down, Edwin

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:34 PM
Well, that wasn't a good at bat.

15fan
08-23-2007, 10:34 PM
What an awful AB by EE.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:35 PM
There have now been 10 players written down in the Pitcher's #9 spot.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:36 PM
Ellison up to PH.

remdog
08-23-2007, 10:36 PM
is Ellison a midget?

Rem

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:36 PM
That was awful too...

What was the purpose of picking him up? I see no logic behind it at all...I'd rather bring Jay Bruce or Joey Votto off the bench.

15fan
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
What an awful AB by EE.

Immediately followed by awful baserunning by Hatteberg. :thumbdown

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Hamilton getting a free pass....Honus coming up. :)

HumnHilghtFreel
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Keppinger with a chance to be a hero here.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Ellison is worthless.

KronoRed
08-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Pitiful

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:39 PM
Kepp is 6 for 8 with Bases loaded.

PuffyPig
08-23-2007, 10:39 PM
Immediately followed by awful baserunning by Hatteberg. :thumbdown

He was correct to run....think about it.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 10:39 PM
having to use Ellison was a kick to the soft parts.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 10:40 PM
Ellison is worthless.we knew that before he showed up.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:41 PM
Well. Yeah.

Sad.

HumnHilghtFreel
08-23-2007, 10:41 PM
Kep looked at a lot of pitches that looked hittable to me.

*reclines armchair*

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:41 PM
That was un-Honus like.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:41 PM
I'd use Weathers and take your chances.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:42 PM
Kepp Ks looking, 1 for 6 day for him, that has to kill his BA. :evil:

Tex Miller Francoeur up.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd use Weathers and take your chances.

Me dos.

flyer85
08-23-2007, 10:42 PM
for the Braves it is pitcher after pitcher that can throw 93-96

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:42 PM
Keppinger jawing at the ump....Valentin pushes him away (Keppinger, not the ump).

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:43 PM
Any bets that Texiera Homers?

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 10:43 PM
That was awful too...
What was the purpose of picking him up?

We needed SOMEONE to take Castro's place.....literally.

15fan
08-23-2007, 10:43 PM
He was correct to run....think about it.

2nd & 3rd, one out, and a gimme grounder to the pitcher.

Why run? Make the P field it, look you back, turn and make the throw to first. Especially with a "speedy" guy like Ellison at the plate.

Worst case is that you are left with 2nd & 3rd, 2 outs instead of 1st & 3rd (giving the Braves the force at 2nd) with 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:43 PM
We needed SOMEONE to take Castro's place.....literally.

I guess every team needs a no-power, no-speed, micro-hitting, no purpose player...

Kc61
08-23-2007, 10:44 PM
That EE at bat was upsetting. Using Ellison there was upsetting. That call on Keppinger was upsetting.

CTA513
08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Isn't Gonzalez back with the team? If so why wasn't he used instead of Ellison?

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Kepp, Jr, BP, and Dunn:

3-20 w/ 2 Runs, 1 RBI

Due up:

Jr, BP, Dunn

They're due.

Kc61
08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Isn't Gonzalez back with the team? If so why wasn't he used instead of Ellison?

Agree completely.

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:45 PM
I'm not sure what Keppinger was looking at there, but oh well. The Reds blew a chance, but they've still got a shot to win the game.

I'm a bit surprised Gosling is in right now instead of Weathers. I'd expect Gosling to be in for at least two innings, perhaps three. Once Weathers comes in, I'd be shocked if he goes any longer than two innings max.

I will say this ... if a starting pitcher has to come in and pitch this game ... it better not be Aaron Harang. Arroyo started last night so one would have to assume he won't be pitching no matter what.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:46 PM
Isn't Gonzalez back with the team? If so why wasn't he used instead of Ellison?

Ellison needs to be showcased?

blumj
08-23-2007, 10:47 PM
Dirt players? That's cute.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:47 PM
Keppinger jawing at the ump....Valentin pushes him away (Keppinger, not the ump).

I've got to go with a guy with Kepp's eye that if he thought it was a ball, it was probably a ball.

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:48 PM
I'm not sure what Keppinger was looking at there, but oh well. The Reds blew a chance, but they've still got a shot to win the game.

I'm a bit surprised Gosling is in right now instead of Weathers. I'd expect Gosling to be in for at least two innings, perhaps three. Once Weathers comes in, I'd be shocked if he goes any longer than two innings max.

I will say this ... if a starting pitcher has to come in and pitch this game ... it better not be Aaron Harang. Arroyo started last night so one would have to assume he won't be pitching no matter what.

I have a feeling Gosling is the last pitcher to be used tonight no matter what, Weathers is getting rested.

Eric_Davis
08-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Nice job by Valentin, though.

PuffyPig
08-23-2007, 10:48 PM
2nd & 3rd, one out, and a gimme grounder to the pitcher.

Why run? Make the P field it, look you back, turn and make the throw to first. Especially with a "speedy" guy like Ellison at the plate.

Worst case is that you are left with 2nd & 3rd, 2 outs instead of 1st & 3rd (giving the Braves the force at 2nd) with 2 outs.

With 2 outs, first and third and second and third is no difference (especially when everyone knew that Hamilton would be walked).

Hatteberg made them make a tougher out. A run down is always tougher. More throws to screw up.

Notice how Hatteberg easliy saw the pitcher catch the ball and still ran slowly down the line to draw the throw. It's the text book play in that situation.

mbgrayson
08-23-2007, 10:49 PM
"Goose" Gosling does it! Throws a goose-egg up on the board....

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:50 PM
Remember, I called JR for the walkoff....

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:51 PM
Griffey.. Ball Game.. 591!

I'm Keppinger Confident!

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:51 PM
I have a feeling Gosling is the last pitcher to be used tonight no matter what, Weathers is getting rested.

I'd like to think you're right (if the Reds can win it now or in the 13th, that'd avoid the scenario altogether obviously).

Problem is Gosling pitched 3.1 innings and threw 57 pitches on Monday night. Granted, he's been a starter in the minors and can be stretched out a bit, but I'm not sure how far he'll be able to go on two days rest after a 57-pitch outing.

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:53 PM
Doh!

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:53 PM
Griffey's ball however did go further then Ellisons.. just for the record..

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:54 PM
Griffey GO, Phillips up.

Isnt Wickman who Dunn hit the walkoff GS against Cleveland?

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 10:54 PM
Hooray Wicky!

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:54 PM
Phillips way to hustle

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:55 PM
Wickman's slow to the plate so I'd like to see Phillips swipe second base right here.

remdog
08-23-2007, 10:55 PM
I'm thinking (hopeing) that that will be the fatal flaw for the Braves.

Rem

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:56 PM
if i'm Phillips.. i'd be running

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 10:56 PM
Umps are giving the Braves some low strike calls here.

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
DUNN!

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
Ball Game!

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
:dunn:

:jump:

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Cyclone792
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
Atta boy, Dunn!!

guttle11
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
Ball go far.

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
this one belong to the reds.. take the series from the Braves

Reds Fanatic
08-23-2007, 10:58 PM
Dunn with a monster home run ends it 9-7 Reds!!! :beerme:

RedLegSuperStar
08-23-2007, 10:58 PM
That was a SHOT!

remdog
08-23-2007, 10:58 PM
WOW! Dunn really cranked that one! There was no doubt about that shot!

Rem

nate
08-23-2007, 10:59 PM
Love that Dunn / Wickman matchup!

2-3 with two game ending HRs!

DoogMinAmo
08-23-2007, 10:59 PM
Dunn hearts Wickie. GG boys!

flyer85
08-23-2007, 10:59 PM
it is interesting that Dunn has 3 more walkoff HRs in his career than Jr does.

11larkin11
08-23-2007, 11:00 PM
I think that one ended up in Louisville. Maybe Votto can personally return it to Cincinnati?:D

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 11:00 PM
:owned:

Tom Servo
08-23-2007, 11:01 PM
it is interesting that Dunn has 3 more walkoff HRs in his career than Jr does.
But he's not clutch.

Falls City Beer
08-23-2007, 11:01 PM
Dunn's offense won't be missed. Bruce and Votto will provide that kind of pop.

TOBTTReds
08-23-2007, 11:02 PM
it is interesting that Dunn has 3 more walkoff HRs in his career than Jr does.

Are you trying to say he is clutch? How dare you say.

Gainesville Red
08-23-2007, 11:02 PM
That was a bomb.

Matt700wlw
08-23-2007, 11:08 PM
If the bullpen does this earlier in the year, who knows where this team sits right now...

RedFanAlways1966
08-23-2007, 11:08 PM
4-0 record in 12-inning games this year.