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redsupport
08-30-2007, 02:33 AM
was mentioned by red support in the off season as a pitcher to scrutinize, Do you think he would have helped more than the combined efforts of EZ, and Dumatrait?

AmarilloRed
08-30-2007, 02:47 AM
Let's take a look at the stats: 13-5 in 25 starts, 1 cg, 1 ShO, 154 1/3 IP, 191 hiits, 84 runs, 76 earned, 21 hr allowed, 21 walks, 74 strikeouts, and a 4.40 ERA this year. I like him as a starter for the back end of the rotation. He gives up a lot of hits, but does not walk many.

Boston Red
08-30-2007, 10:41 AM
He'd be the #2 guy on the Reds staff. He's not an All-Star (well, he was one year), but he would have helped this staff a ton.

DeadRedinCT
08-30-2007, 11:09 AM
Paul Byrd would not have helped.

He's been an average pitcher for Indians (99 ERA+) in a slight pitcher's run environment (park effect of 98).

The good - he doesn't walk batters (1.2 BB/9). However, he doesn't strike anyone out (4.3 K/9). Because of that he gives up a lot of hits (11.1 H/9), some of which leave the ballpark (1.2 HR/9). When he gets outs they tend to be of the flyball variety (0.84 GO/AO). So essentially he pitches to contact and gets away with it because of the ballpark in which he pitches half his games.

Those peripherals (which more than likely be higher at GABP, especially the H/9 and HR/9) would have been a recipe for a 5+ ERA, which is not something that would have "helped" the Reds this season.

durl
08-30-2007, 11:25 AM
His numbers are pretty close to Belisle but with fewer strikeouts and more hits allowed. I don't believe many would say that having another Belisile on the staff would have made the Reds better this year.

Good points, DeadRedinCT.

Boston Red
09-01-2007, 11:02 PM
Complete game shutout for Byrd tonight. Thank God he didn't pitch for the Reds tonight!

redsupport
09-02-2007, 01:30 AM
yeah dumatrait and milton are better

AmarilloRed
09-02-2007, 01:31 AM
He could be a #3 or #4 for us, and a definite upgrade from the pitchers we have in the 3 to 5 slots now.

GoReds33
09-02-2007, 11:29 AM
He would help us win now thats for sure. I just think that the bottom of the rotation needs to be filled with young guys. Bailey, Cueto, and Livingston should make up the back end of the rotation.