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Blimpie
09-10-2007, 06:58 PM
If you think this game only matters during hoops season, then you are in a time warp. Nowadays, big-time recruits hang in the balance for this game--not to mention Louisville's BCS hopes.

On television, I have seen two of the four halves that Louisville has played thus far. I have personally witnessed both of UK's wins this season. The truth is that both offenses are really going to create problems for their opponents--and both defenses are going to give their own fans nightmares.

I agree with this article that, other than their run defense, UK's real weak spot appears to be with their special teams....and no, I am not just talking about their kicking game either. Both their return team and their kickoff team have been less than stellar at this juncture of the season.

All I know is that Saturday's may be the toughest ticket that Commonwealth Stadium has seen in many, many years. While they have been averaging a little better than last year's crowds for the first two home dates (around 66,000-67,000 per game), most experts are saying that the Louisville game may set stadium attendance records. All that, with Barnhardt jacking the face value on the ducats to $70 per....

Go Big Blue!

http://www.kentucky.com/287/story/171558.html


Posted on Sun, Sep. 09, 2007

Next up: exciting offense vs. defeatable defense
By Mark Story
HERALD-LEADER SPORTS COLUMNIST

Like the rest of us, Brian Brohm and Andre Woodson have listened all summer as a whole state bubbled with anticipation over the quarterback matchup for the 2007 Kentucky-Louisville grudge fest.

Two homegrown stars with legitimate national profiles.

In terms of hype, this one could do the WWE proud: Andre the Giant vs. Brian the Brilliant.

Except the two players in the glare of the bright lights want none of it.

"Uhh, it's not me vs. Andre Woodson," Brohm said Thursday night after Louisville had beaten Middle Tennessee. "I know that's what everyone is going to say, but we're playing against the Kentucky defense. I won't watch one second of film on Andre Woodson."

After Kentucky fended off pesky Kent State last night in Commonwealth Stadium, Woodson sang from the same hymnal.

"A lot of people talk about us," he said of the two QBs. "But there's no telling what's going to happen. We could come out with a good feel for the running game and just hand off. This isn't about (the quarterbacks). It's all about getting the win."

At last, we turn to the most-anticipated (modern) UK-U of L matchup since the first one back in 1994. After two blowout wins over over-matched foes each, both teams enter as mirror images of the other.

A U of L defense that was expected to be stout has instead been a sieve. Against Murray State and Middle Tennessee -- not exactly Florida and USC -- the Cards are surrendering 6.8 yards a play and 413 yards a game.

When the Cards' D allowed 35 points to Middle in the first half, Cardinals fans were transformed to a different type of fowl -- boo birds.

But there remain ample questions about the Kentucky defense, too.

The Cats -- who struggled mightily against mobile quarterbacks in 2006 -- were torched by Kent State's Julian Edelman last night. He scrambled and juked his way to 135 yards on the ground.

Heisman candidate Brohm has thrown for 795 yards and nine touchdowns in two games. Yet, crazy as this sounds, UK is probably fortunate that Brohm is a pocket passer.

As an offense, Louisville has been ruthless. The Cardinals are averaging 65.5 points a game, 8.9 yards a play, 692 yards a game.

For new Kentucky defensive coordinator Steve Brown, the question is how to get Brohm -- who has not been sacked yet this year -- out of rhythm. Rutgers did it a year ago with relentless blitzing.

Asked if he'd watched that Rutgers tape, Brown said "oh, about 1,000 times. Ideally, you'd like to get pressure with four. But if you can't, then you have to keep bringing another and another until you do."

Given time to throw, Louisville can flood the field with big-time receivers -- Harry Douglas, Mario Uruutia, Gary Barnidge.

"Offensively, they are a machine," UK Coach Rich Brooks said of U of L. "Defensively, they had 30 minutes (vs. Middle Tennessee) like we had tonight. They're much more capable than they showed."

On the other side, Kentucky brings more offensive weapons to a game with U of L than it's done since Couch and Yeast.

UK's three-headed running back attack of Rafael Little, Tony Dixon and Alfonso Smith could be the weapon that keeps the Louisville offense on the bench.

Woodson has not been as sharp overall as Brohm in the first two games. It had to be worrisome to the UK brain trust last night when a MAC team sacked the Cats' QB four times in the first half.

Given time in half two, Woodson made big-time throws (a 51-yard TD in stride to Keenan Burton and a bullet slant to Steve Johnson that set up a second score) as UK moved from a 14-14 halftime tie to a 59-20 blowout.

Kentucky, too, has big-time receiving weapons in Burton, Johnson, Dicky Lyons Jr. and Jacob Tamme.

One factor that seems to heavily favor Louisville is the place-kicking. Art Carmody is more automatic than the sun rise. Let's just say UK's Lones Seiber is somewhat less than certain, even on extra points.

In a close game, that could be the difference.

So now it's here.

A nationally ranked Louisville vs. a Kentucky that has won seven of its last eight.

Says Woodson: "This is a huge statement game. We have to get this game to show people we really are turning this thing around."

It's big-play offense vs. big-play offense.

It's questionable defense vs. questionable defense.

And, sorry Brian and Andre, it's Brohm vs. Woodson.

This is going to be fun.

WMR
09-10-2007, 09:32 PM
This is UK's best chance to win this game in a LONG time.

I really like this UK squad. I've really enjoyed watching all of their games so far.

macro
09-10-2007, 10:57 PM
Okay, I've got the most important question of all: Is the game going to be on in HD?

I'm assuming it's not, since the main carrier is ESPN Classic, and they don't have an HD channel (is that correct?) WHAS 11 is carrying it locally and it's not showing up on the Directv guide as HD. :(

Now I'll let you guys get back to the less important matters, like what actually happens on the field. :)

AccordinglyReds
09-10-2007, 10:58 PM
GO CARDS!!!

WMR
09-10-2007, 10:59 PM
Oh wow, Mac, I think you may be right; and that is a real shame. ESPN Classic isn't broadcast in HD... Why couldn't they get this game on ESPN2 at least?!?!

George Foster
09-10-2007, 11:22 PM
Middle Tenn scoring 35 points in the 1st half on Louisville showed the fact they can be scored on and often. However they have the best offense in the Country.

For UK to win they must score early and not get behind. Get a turnover. a couple of "3 and outs." UK's defense must "believe" they can win the game and if Louisville scores on their 1st 3 touches....no chance.

It's going to be a offense pissing match and Louisville has the advantage. UK is going to need some luck. This is their best chance to win in years.

macro
09-10-2007, 11:37 PM
Vegas has Louisville as a touchdown favorite:

http://covers.usatoday.com/data/odds.aspx

George Foster
09-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Vegas has Louisville as a touchdown favorite:

http://covers.usatoday.com/data/odds.aspx

That is a good line. It's going to be a great game to watch...lot's of scoring.

jimbo
09-10-2007, 11:58 PM
I'll be tailgating near the stadium starting at about 10:00 am. I'm not much of a fan of either team, but I have a good friend whose daughter is a UK alumnus and they go to most of the football games, and tailgate all day. There will be much drinking and eating.

Anyone else going?

AccordinglyReds
09-11-2007, 02:08 AM
Oh wow, Mac, I think you may be right; and that is a real shame. ESPN Classic isn't broadcast in HD... Why couldn't they get this game on ESPN2 at least?!?!

I think UK messed it up by wanting to move it to the third week of the season.

cumberlandreds
09-11-2007, 07:56 AM
This will come down to if UK can put pressure on Brohm. If they can do that they will win but if they let Brohm have all the time he wants they will get picked apart and it will become ugly. This should be high scoring game but you know with everyone predicting a 45-42 type game it will be a 7-6 defensive slugfest.

WVRed
09-11-2007, 10:53 AM
I think UK messed it up by wanting to move it to the third week of the season.

Not necessarily.

Playing a top team like Louisville to start out the season would destroy their confidence and probably have a negative effect on the rest of the season. Get two early wins to build up momentum and see what happens.

Blimpie
09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
I'll be tailgating near the stadium starting at about 10:00 am. I'm not much of a fan of either team, but I have a good friend whose daughter is a UK alumnus and they go to most of the football games, and tailgate all day. There will be much drinking and eating.

Anyone else going?:wave:

I'll be right outside Gate # 2 in the parking lot (my seats are in section 109). Look for the big blue tent....well, one of them anyway :D

durl
09-11-2007, 04:10 PM
Could be a very exciting game. I agree that KY will have to score early if they want to have a chance. It could be a real good back-and-forth game but I sure hope the Cats are on the winning side of this one.

BoxingRed
09-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Not necessarily.

Playing a top team like Louisville to start out the season would destroy their confidence and probably have a negative effect on the rest of the season. Get two early wins to build up momentum and see what happens.

I think he was referring to the fact that the game was only on ESPN classic. And yes, UK moving the game (some might say running scared) did result in the horrible TV situation.

jimbo
09-11-2007, 06:32 PM
:wave:

I'll be right outside Gate # 2 in the parking lot (my seats are in section 109). Look for the big blue tent....well, one of them anyway :D

Will do. I can't tell you where we will be as this is the first time I've been there. All I can tell you is that we will be playing cornhole, drinking lots of beer, grilling out, and will have a tv hooked up. I do know we are under shade and have a large tent. There will be a green Honda Element parked right next to us.

Have a good time, maybe I'll see you there.

Blimpie
09-11-2007, 09:14 PM
Here's a pretty good example of the sniping that has been going on between the two athletic departments as of late. As they sometimes say, the fish will rot from the head down....

http://www.kentucky.com/287/story/173308.html


Posted on Tue, Sep. 11, 2007
Nasty rivalry makes for great theater
SCHOOLS SCRAP ON, OFF THE FIELD
By Mark Story
HERALD-LEADER SPORTS COLUMNIST

This is how you elevate a rivalry to full boil.

In the last four school years, Kentucky and Louisville have had scheduling disputes over when to play football and whether to play volleyball.

At a time when U of L athletics were enjoying unprecedented on-the-field success, a shrewd Kentucky coup knocked Cardinals' broadcasts from their priority status on Louisville radio giant WHAS.

Not once, but twice in the past year, the president of the University of Kentucky made public remarks that were interpreted by the red part of the state as derisive toward U of L sports.

Though he does it with a smile on his face, the Louisville athletic director is quite skilled himself at applying the verbal needle to UK.

And that doesn't even take into account the hard feelings of those who still consider Rick Pitino a turnCat.

Taking the temperature of our state's premier rivalry on the week of the most anticipated Kentucky-Louisville football meeting in the modern series, I'd say the relationship between the sports programs at UK and U of L has never been testier.

UK President Lee Todd says he has never seen the feelings of sports rivalry between UK and U of L stronger than they are now.

"It is highly competitive right now, it really is," Todd said Saturday. "We have 25,000 alumni living in Jefferson County. I think that breeds a lot of the competition. They probably hear it (from the U of L fans) every single day."

Old School Kentucky fans have long been reluctant to acknowledge Louisville as UK's main rival. Presumably, that's because to acknowledge a rival is to tacitly admit equality.

"I've never thought (UK-U of L) has gotten to the point of a Michigan-Ohio State or an Auburn-Alabama," says Oscar Combs, who founded the UK sports publication The Cats' Pause in the 1970s.

Other Kentucky sports figures are less reluctant to acknowledge the current reality.

"There is extreme passion on both sides from the fans," Kentucky football coach Rich Brooks said. "Passion bordering on hatred. That means it's a pretty good rivalry. I know since I've been here, you hear about (the Kentucky-Louisville game) year-round."

Talking trash

U of L backers say the UK president has done much to gin up bad blood between the fans of our state's two main sports programs.

Last fall, at a UK Alumni gathering in Louisville, Todd predicted that the Kentucky-Louisville basketball game might be "somewhat competitive" since U of L had "almost lost to Georgetown" College in an exhibition. (In that case, the UK basketball team walked Todd's talk.)

This followed the UK president's remarks last summer at a Kentucky Football Kickoff Luncheon that the Louisville football program was "overmarketed and underperforming." (The Kentucky football team didn't exactly back that one up.)

A year later, that remark still stings in The Ville, where people are justifiably proud of a football program that has been ranked in the nation's Top 10 at the end of the season twice in the past three years.

"Look at who said it," Louisville AD Tom Jurich said of Todd's remark. "Consider the source."

Todd says now that "I was speaking to a football crowd and you get in front of fans in the beginning of a season and you try to say things to charge them up. I certainly have a lot of respect for the athletic program they have built."

For his part, Jurich is pretty good at giving it back to UK.

In the prior three school years, Louisville has sent a men's basketball team to the Final Four, its football team has won a BCS bowl, and its baseball team has made the College World Series.

U of L media spinners are adept at pointing out that Louisville has achieved all this while spending dramatically less on athletics than UK -- roughly $62 million for Kentucky last year vs. some $41 million for Louisville.

Last year, Jurich told The Cincinnati Post that "if money won championships, Kentucky would win them all."

That's a zinger.

Schedule fights

Raising the temperature on the rivalry between the schools has been a pair of scheduling disputes.

A disagreement over when to play volleyball in 2006 led to Kentucky and Louisville not playing each other for the first time since 1980-81. Essentially, the two sides couldn't agree on a date.

UK insisted it would not play a rivalry game once Southeastern Conference play began. Louisville suggested more than 33 potential playing dates and regarded Kentucky's lack of flexibility as an insult.

"They're only willing to schedule us when it is absolutely perfect for them," U of L Senior Associate Athletics Director Julie Hermann said last June. "If it's not totally on their terms, they're not willing to play us. No other institution in the country treats us like that."

Jurich said in an interview this past June that "we were more upset about the volleyball situation than Todd's remarks."

This season, for the second straight year, Kentucky and Louisville are not playing volleyball. This time, UK Coach Craig Skinner said the schools could not agree on a site.

Skinner said UK maintains that the series should re-start in Lexington, since the last time the two played was in Louisville. U of L says UK skipped its year for a home game, so any renewal should start in Louisville.

Then there is the granddaddy of the recent Kentucky-Louisville disputes, over when to play football. The Cards wanted to continue the game as the traditional season opener. Kentucky agitated for playing later.

In this case the two actually compromised, with U of L getting the game as the opener when it is in Louisville and Kentucky having it later on the years in Lexington.

When they play Saturday night, it will be the third game for both teams.

"From our standpoint, they probably helped us," Jurich said. "We've got a new coach. We didn't see that coming. So we've got a new coach in place and they've given us a chance to get a couple of games under our belt."

That's a zinger.

Right now, the competition between UK and U of L is chippier and zestier than its ever been.

As theater, isn't it great?

Slyder
09-12-2007, 10:30 AM
Middle Tenn scoring 35 points in the 1st half on Louisville showed the fact they can be scored on and often. However they have the best offense in the Country.

For UK to win they must score early and not get behind. Get a turnover. a couple of "3 and outs." UK's defense must "believe" they can win the game and if Louisville scores on their 1st 3 touches....no chance.

It's going to be a offense pissing match and Louisville has the advantage. UK is going to need some luck. This is their best chance to win in years.

Anyone buy the conspiracy theory that the Louisville Defense was laying down so Brohm could put up even more monsterous numbers than say a Pat White did vs Western Michigan cause he only played in a half?

BTW I'll see your one Heisman candidate and raise you another and Big East Freshman of the Year candidate (Noel Devine).

WMR
09-15-2007, 11:22 PM
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo oooo

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First win over a top-10 team since 1977 (vs. #4 Penn State)!!!!

WHAT A HUGE WIN FOR THE CATS

WOW

Chip R
09-15-2007, 11:32 PM
Is this UK's biggest football win ever?

Matt700wlw
09-15-2007, 11:40 PM
How about that?

Nice job, Big Blue!

Javy Pornstache
09-15-2007, 11:55 PM
Go Cats :D

Javy Pornstache
09-15-2007, 11:58 PM
Is this UK's biggest football win ever?

Nah, they won the Sugar Bowl before. But it's been a loooong time. Haha. This is at least the biggest in 30 years. And they could stake claim to one national title back in the Bear Bryant days, when the titles were decided by the news services solely... there was a year that about four different teams had a claim to the national title, and UK was one of them.

kyred14
09-16-2007, 12:09 AM
:jump::jump:

A big :thumbup: to Rich Brooks. He's taken alot of underserving crap the last four years. What he's done with this program in the last five years is nothing short of amazing.

First win over a top 10 team in 30 YEARS. How sweet is it ending UofL's title hopes this early?

WMR
09-16-2007, 12:36 AM
:jump::jump:

A big :thumbup: to Rich Brooks. He's taken alot of underserving crap the last four years. What he's done with this program in the last five years is nothing short of amazing.

First win over a top 10 team in 30 YEARS. How sweet is it ending UofL's title hopes this early?

It is "Damn Sweet."

:lol: :laugh:

macro
09-16-2007, 01:12 AM
Does anyone have any good recipes for crow? I've got some to eat.

I have been very outspoken about my dislike for the hiring of Rich Brooks, but I was very wrong. UK has got a tough road ahead this year (because of SEC schedule) and may yet end up 6-6, but even if that happens, Brooks has gotten this program into a good position for the future. I take back all the bad things I've said about his hiring.

Now that I've given Brooks his due, I've just got to ask this question:

What on earth was he thinking about by kicking the one-point extra point at the end of the game and not going for two?!?!

I know there was lots of commotion, but someone on that sideline has got to get his attention in that spot and remind him that a six-point lead is no better than a five-point lead. How bad would that have looked if Louisville had somehow scored and kicked an extra point of their own? Sorry to bring this up after a great win, but it was a huge blunder nevertheless.

KronoRed
09-16-2007, 01:23 AM
What on earth was he thinking about by kicking the one-point extra point at the end of the game and not going for two?!?!


What if Louisville had gotten a pick and run it back for 2? then they would have only needed a FG to force OT.

I'm guessing that was the thinking ;)

Good win for the SEC boys in blue.

WMR
09-16-2007, 01:29 AM
What if Louisville had gotten a pick and run it back for 2? then they would have only needed a FG to force OT.

I'm guessing that was the thinking ;)

Good win for the SEC boys in blue.

What about Florida??? :eek:

That team is scary.

kyred14
09-16-2007, 02:10 AM
What kind of defense was UofL playing on the last touchdown. Cover zero? :laugh:

How about that last hail mary? The only thing on my mind was the LSU play. I'm sure there was on the mind of almost every UK fan. I guess still haven't learned how to "bat it down." After being in attendance for so many disappointments, it sucks that I wasn't there for this. I've never felt such joy after a game. What a night!

Sea Ray
09-16-2007, 12:00 PM
I have been very outspoken about my dislike for the hiring of Rich Brooks, but I was very wrong.



As an alumnus of a rival SEC school, I'm thrilled that the UK folks are so pleased with Rich Brooks. What I fear is a young, energetic coach like a Brian Kelly or a young up and coming Urban Meyer type to energize that program. Rich Brooks is no threat recruiting wise or whatever to make a dent in the powers that be in the SEC.

That being said it was a very nice win over Louisville. Congrats!

WVRed
09-16-2007, 12:21 PM
As an alumnus of a rival SEC school, I'm thrilled that the UK folks are so pleased with Rich Brooks. What I fear is a young, energetic coach like a Brian Kelly or a young up and coming Urban Meyer type to energize that program. Rich Brooks is no threat recruiting wise or whatever to make a dent in the powers that be in the SEC.

That being said it was a very nice win over Louisville. Congrats!

I have a feeling that Brooks will retire soon, whether it be after this season or in the next two or three. Barnhardt has made some great hires and I think with the talent level significantly improved they could land an up and coming head coach.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Kentucky will beat Tennessee this year. They have come close, especially last year, and Tennessee is down. If Kentucky beats Arkansas next week(which I doubt, considering it is a home game and they are coming off a loss to Bama), they will be in the top 25.

macro
09-16-2007, 01:38 PM
As an alumnus of a rival SEC school, I'm thrilled that the UK folks are so pleased with Rich Brooks. What I fear is a young, energetic coach like a Brian Kelly or a young up and coming Urban Meyer type to energize that program. Rich Brooks is no threat recruiting wise or whatever to make a dent in the powers that be in the SEC.

That being said it was a very nice win over Louisville. Congrats!

Don't read too much into what I said. I simply said that my previous level of criticism of his hiring was unwarranted. I had zero faith in him and I was wrong. That doesn't translate into my being "so pleased" and thinking he's the man to take the program to the next level. I just now feel that he was a good choice to do what he has done: bring the program from the doldrums of probation to respectability.

Kentucky was not going to get a young up and coming Urban Meyer type with the program in the shape it was in. They might not when Brooks steps down, either, but the odds of that are much better than they were when he arrived.

George Foster
09-16-2007, 09:34 PM
Don't read too much into what I said. I simply said that my previous level of criticism of his hiring was unwarranted. I had zero faith in him and I was wrong. That doesn't translate into my being "so pleased" and thinking he's the man to take the program to the next level. I just now feel that he was a good choice to do what he has done: bring the program from the doldrums of probation to respectability.

Kentucky was not going to get a young up and coming Urban Meyer type with the program in the shape it was in. They might not when Brooks steps down, either, but the odds of that are much better than they were when he arrived.

They already have a young up and coming "coach in the wings." That is our offensive C. Joker Phillips. He will be the 2nd black head coach in the SEC....mark it down.

George Foster
09-16-2007, 09:44 PM
Does anyone have any good recipes for crow? I've got some to eat.

I have been very outspoken about my dislike for the hiring of Rich Brooks, but I was very wrong. UK has got a tough road ahead this year (because of SEC schedule) and may yet end up 6-6, but even if that happens, Brooks has gotten this program into a good position for the future. I take back all the bad things I've said about his hiring.

Now that I've given Brooks his due, I've just got to ask this question:

What on earth was he thinking about by kicking the one-point extra point at the end of the game and not going for two?!?!

I know there was lots of commotion, but someone on that sideline has got to get his attention in that spot and remind him that a six-point lead is no better than a five-point lead. How bad would that have looked if Louisville had somehow scored and kicked an extra point of their own? Sorry to bring this up after a great win, but it was a huge blunder nevertheless.

During his after game press conference, Brooks said it was a horrible mistake, and they did not have time to set up a play without a penalty. They should of planned for it, they were just hoping for a field goal chance. Brooks said that they noticed at half-time that the free-safety's cheated toward the middle and the side-lines were wide-open for a big play.

The Louisville coach said after the game they were not in a "prevent defense"....wow....that they were playing their regular zone defense. Someone should tell him that "this ain't Tulsa baby" and Andre Woodson is the best QB you will face all year.

danken12
09-17-2007, 11:38 AM
They already have a young up and coming "coach in the wings." That is our offensive C. Joker Phillips. He will be the 2nd black head coach in the SEC....mark it down.

Yep. He's going to be next in line for the job. I for one think that after Brooks stabilizes the program, that Joker is going to bring it to new heights.

GO CATS!!!!