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TheRedMachine06
09-11-2007, 10:26 PM
I was just wondering what people here prefer, if you even watch. Please try to only consider survival techniques and not the hostís previous history, only whom you believe would survive better alone in the wild.

Redhook
09-11-2007, 11:04 PM
Man vs. Wild!

Bear Grylls is my hero. That show is great.

Although there are reports that some of it is made up or he sleeps in hotels, I could care less. The guy has drank is own urine, eaten live snakes, spiders, grubs, you name it, and has jumped in nasty stink pits just to show you how to survive in the harshest of environments. Plus, he's entertaining. I'm looking forward to some new episodes.

justincredible
09-11-2007, 11:53 PM
I love both but Bear is much more exciting/entertaining.

Blimpie
09-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Sadly, I used to love Bear until I read this...

http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2439321520070724


Discovery's "Wild" man not so brave: report
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:35AM EDT
By Andrew Wallenstein

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Discovery Channel is re-evaluating one of its most popular series, "Man vs. Wild," after allegations surfaced that its survival-expert host was bunking in motels when he was supposed to be braving the great outdoors.

The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4, which carries the program under the title "Born Survivor: Bear Grylls." Channel 4 confirmed that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild.

"Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field," the network said in a statement.

The production company behind the series, Diverse Television, is cooperating with the Channel 4 investigation, which likely will address a range of allegations that called into question "Wild's" authenticity.

In each episode of the series, Grylls is airlifted into the wilderness with only a few tools to aid in his survival, such as a flint or water bottle. A former British special forces soldier, Grylls is typically depicted as subsisting for several days without intervention or interruption while cameramen follow him offscreen. He has been stranded all over the globe, including Utah's Moab desert and the Costa Rican rain forest.

But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together. In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are referred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station.

The brouhaha could become a PR nightmare for the channel, which in recent years has abandoned contrived unscripted formats in favor of the scientific explorations that first made the Discovery brand famous. "Wild" in particular has emerged as one of its main attractions during the past two seasons.

But the company gave no indication about parting ways with the series, only making certain unspecified alterations.

"Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers," Discovery said. "In addition, shows that are to be repeated will be edited appropriately. Bear Grylls is a world-class adventurer and a terrific talent."

A spokeswoman for Discovery declined to elaborate on what exact measures will be taken to address the concerns raised about "Wild."

Among the likely possibilities: a disclaimer that will precede each episode explaining that some of the events being depicted are dramatized.

On July 13, Grylls spoke at the Television Critics Assn. summer press tour in Los Angeles about production of the series but gave little hint of any shenanigans behind the scenes. At one point, he described what it was like to bed down in the wild.

"Often at nighttime, they will get helicoptered out, and they might have to recharge camera batteries and hand in footage, and then they leave me a little minicamera for the night stuff, and they come and rejoin me in the morning," he said.


Now, I just can't seem to buy into his theatrics anymore. I have watched alot of Survivorman recently and I like it okay. While the concept of that show is far more believable, I can't say that I dig his personality as much as I did Bear's....

Razor Shines
09-12-2007, 09:09 PM
Sadly, I used to love Bear until I read this...

http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2439321520070724



Now, I just can't seem to buy into his theatrics anymore. I have watched alot of Survivorman recently and I like it okay. While the concept of that show is far more believable, I can't say that I dig his personality as much as I did Bear's....

I've read that article before again it doesn't really bother me. I didn't believe for a second that there weren't some behind the scenes things going on or that everything was "real". It's entertainment. I don't really care if Bear spent a couple nights in a hotel, I have no problem believing that if he really had to he's tough enough to survive in the wild. He climbed Mt. Everest and anyone who knows anything about mountain climbing knows that summiting Everest and living to tell about it is one of the most mentally and physically demanding things you can ever do.

So Survivor Man Vs. Man Vs. Wild: Give me the personality and entertainment over "reality".

Blimpie
09-13-2007, 03:42 PM
I've read that article before again it doesn't really bother me. I didn't believe for a second that there weren't some behind the scenes things going on or that everything was "real". It's entertainment. I don't really care if Bear spent a couple nights in a hotel, I have no problem believing that if he really had to he's tough enough to survive in the wild. He climbed Mt. Everest and anyone who knows anything about mountain climbing knows that summiting Everest and living to tell about it is one of the most mentally and physically demanding things you can ever do.

So Survivor Man Vs. Man Vs. Wild: Give me the personality and entertainment over "reality".The part that I take issue with is that they never felt a need to issue a disclaimer before each episode...that is, until the story broke.

bigredmechanism
09-13-2007, 04:33 PM
yeah but in the same respect, it was implied. i agree bear is a better showman, but that soured the whole experience for me imo. it even kinda ruined survivorman.

Razor Shines
09-14-2007, 01:29 AM
The part that I take issue with is that they never felt a need to issue a disclaimer before each episode...that is, until the story broke.

Can't argue with that. I guess I don't care because I didn't believe it was all that "real" anyway, but I certainly see your point.

Newport Red
09-14-2007, 05:43 PM
Man vs. Wild!

Bear Grylls is my hero. That show is great.

Although there are reports that some of it is made up or he sleeps in hotels, I could care less. The guy has drank is own urine, eaten live snakes, spiders, grubs, you name it, and has jumped in nasty stink pits just to show you how to survive in the harshest of environments. Plus, he's entertaining. I'm looking forward to some new episodes.

While I still like Wild more, I am coming around to Survivorman.

Yes, Bear is more charismatic and jumps into quicksand and freezing water to show you how to escape and survive. He has a crew with him though. He can afford to be more dramatic.. Survivorman's rescue tream is suposedly remote. He's trying to make it through 7 days.

Anyone who would voluntarily jump into freezing water, with no backup, is stupid and shouldn't be on TV.

Well, maybe Jackass.

On another note, I loved the Mt Everest climbing series.