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AmarilloRed
09-23-2007, 02:33 AM
It was the first time the Reds were shut out since July 29 against the Cubs. Almost surprisingly, Arroyo wasn't pitching that day. Although run support has been better recently, Cincinnati scored two runs or less in 14 of the right-hander's 33 starts -- including three shutouts. The club is 12-21 in his starts despite 21 quality outings.

It's partially why Arroyo's record is less than shining at 9-14 with a 4.22 ERA. A rough middle portion of the season hurt and he was 3-9 with a 4.84 ERA in the first half -- including seven consecutive losing decisions. He is 6-5 with a 3.48 ERA in 15 starts since the All-Star break.

In 2006, Arroyo was 14-11 with a 3.29 ERA and a Major League-most 240 2/3 innings.

"Other than probably two outings against Washington [both two innings or less], I feel like I've had close to the same year I had last year," Arroyo said. "Last year, I had 23 quality starts. This year, I have 21. I'm over 200 innings now and my strikeouts aren't that much off of last year. The first half really killed me not being able to build up wins when I had those good outings to start the season."

2 runs or less in 14 of 33 starts is not very good. He has given us 21 quality starts this year, just a little worse than last year, but the Reds have not given him any run support. I hate to sound the what ifs, but this could have been a different year if the Reds had given Arroyo some run support this year.

RedsMightWin
09-23-2007, 10:16 AM
Because the rest of the team hates his music.

ChatterRed
09-23-2007, 12:05 PM
Because they save all their run support for Harang.

CarolinaRedleg
09-23-2007, 01:01 PM
Because he prefers to work with David Ross???

Kidding, of course

GoReds33
09-23-2007, 01:04 PM
Because the rest of the team hates his music.I guess. Even the best pitchers need run support. Even with run support this season though he wouldn't be that good of a pitcher. His ERA stands for itself.:)

Krawhitham
09-23-2007, 01:25 PM
no 21 quality starts stands for itself

Krawhitham
09-23-2007, 01:30 PM
"Other than probably two outings against Washington [both two innings or less], I feel like I've had close to the same year I had last year,"

without those 2 starts he has a 3.71 ERA

DannyB
09-23-2007, 01:58 PM
I think he has been the victim of goofy lineups and bad relievers most of the year.

texasdave
09-23-2007, 02:53 PM
BA has nobody to blame but himself for his lack of run support. He homered in his first two games in a Reds' uniform; so everyone naturally figured he could get his own runs if he wanted them. :)

ChatterRed
09-25-2007, 04:34 PM
I think he has bad breath and bad gas and the rest of the team is so nauseated when they go to bat and they stink up the joint.